Are Hindus from India not allowed here?

[Hárbarðr]

The Jews that are controlling ISCKON presently are to blame as well.

The ISKCON is a cult, but better than popular/folk Hinduism. If I am not mistaken, they do not even identify as Hindus. That they reject the "Hindu" name, maybe for the purpose of making it more appealing to Westerners.

There are 3 levels of Hinduism:

1)Folk Hinduism that the average person participates in. That can include worshipping cows, rat temples, burning cow poo in rituals and other superstitious thing.
2)Organizations and teachers like ISKCON, Transcendental Meditation, Sadhguru e.t.c. which are popular with Western people.
3)True esoteric teachings that are focused on spirituality and are passed from guru to student like advanced yoga and tantra.

Even the 3rd level is somewhat corrupted as it's been explained in the site, with unnecessary things like celibacy, asceticism e.t.c.

 

[Henu the Great]

I have been part of several groups that worship the old gods but out of all of them this I found to be quite rude, acting as if better than others, puritan and overall really negative. Considering Polytheism being practiced by a very few people in the western countries keeping people together should have been the priority. Instead we see hateful comments about about the only country on earth that has any substantial polytheistic community. I can see exactly why the old practice and culture was destroyed. Lack of unity. Which is much more important than looking at propaganda online and hating on an entire country as of nothing worse exist. Truly, the world would have been near close to Elysium if the biggest problem here was some guys not bathing.

1. No one here hates one country just because of your disagreement; you have misunderstood in your emotional state
2. We have better unity than ever before
3. No hate was conveyed in the posts; the tone was not hateful, only your tone was very upset here, try to reflect on this when the emotions settle
4. You have one good post in this forum, try to continue from there instead of these tantrums about this topic

 

[Antoniae Adoratrix]

1. No one here hates one country just because of your disagreement; you have misunderstood in your emotional state
2. We have better unity than ever before
3. No hate was conveyed in the posts; the tone was not hateful, only your tone was very upset here, try to reflect on this when the emotions settle
4. You have one good post in this forum, try to continue from there instead of these tantrums about this topic

You are calling valid criticism "Tantrums". Just proves my points really. You have problems with my opinions because it does not automatically praise everything that's done here. You think bring rude is the best way to shut down criticism.
Unity here is only possible if one has really low self-esteem or no self-respect and has a boot licking attitude.
I don't think you know why I had to ask the original question. Someone clearly said that Hindus/India is the most disgusting. This is clearly hating on a single country and religion. So your point 1 is completely wrong.
Of course, it made me upset like it should. Would you feel good if I said your country/religion is the most disgusting based on some internet videos?
Just like last time I didn't ask you to reply. Yet you still have a problem. You could have just ignored it. But no. You had to say something rude.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

You are calling valid criticism "Tantrums". Just proves my points really. You have problems with my opinions because it does not automatically praise everything that's done here. You think bring rude is the best way to shut down criticism.
Unity here is only possible if one has really low self-esteem or no self-respect and has a boot licking attitude.
I don't think you know why I had to ask the original question. Someone clearly said that Hindus/India is the most disgusting. This is clearly hating on a single country and religion. So your point 1 is completely wrong.
Of course, it made me upset like it should. Would you feel good if I said your country/religion is the most disgusting based on some internet videos?
Just like last time I didn't ask you to reply. Yet you still have a problem. You could have just ignored it. But no. You had to say something rude.

India being disgusting is a simple fact statement. It is not an opinion and is nothing emotional. As I have shown a large amount of evidence for. The country of India is literally covered with human shit everywhere you look, it is the leading country in the entire world for people shitting on the ground, and it is the leading country in the world for children dying due to the diseases caused by shit. You have 188,000 children less than 5 years old dying from diseases caused by everything being contaminated with human shit.

You are such a coward that you think me saying some words to talk about these problems is a worse crime than the problems themselves. 188,000 children dying every single day is less of a problem to you than me mentioning it. How are you afraid of some anonymous person on the internet saying some words? Especially when what I say is true.

You have Hindus drinking cow piss, eating cow shit, and covering their entire bodies from head to toe in cow shit. And this is not some rare event, there are thousands of them who do these things. If you think that eating and drinking shit and piss from a cow, and covering yourself in cow shit, is not a disgusting action, then I don't know what to tell you. I see it as a basic fact statement of reality that India is absolutely entirely disgusting, and many of the people do the most disgusting things. If all of these things are normal to you, you have a very strange idea of what is normal.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

You are afraid of words and factual examples said by an anonymous person on the internet. Please consider what kinds of things are actually important, and what kinds of things are actually offensive. I think the fact that 188,000 children less than 5 years old dying right now every single day from something that is so easily preventable is infinitely more offensive and more angering than anything that I could possibly ever say.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

You pretend to be offended by what I say. But you don't actually care about any of these people at all. If you cared about them, you would be the first person standing with me to also talk about and bring awareness to these problems, and work to promote within the public consciousness that these things need to be helped. You would be the first person standing with me to say that these people should be given better living conditions and a better quality of life. Instead you want these problems to be entirely covered up and ignored so they can continue to get worse. You don't want anybody to know about these problems. Well a problem can only be solved if people know about it.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

I very strongly believe in the importance of knowledge and awareness, and as many people as possible learning and becoming aware of problems. Look at israel for the perfect example of this. Israel is now universally hated by most people in the world, because just in the last 2 years most people have learned and become aware of their crimes against Humanity. They did not start genociding innocent Palestinian citizens only in the last 2 years, they have been doing this every single year for decades since the moment that the fake state of israel was established. The only difference now is that many people have only recently learned and become aware of these problems. What if the Palestinians said "Don't talk about these problems, you are offending us, you are making us look weak by not being able to protect ourselves." Then nobody would know what is going on and nobody would be now supporting them.

188,000 children under 5 years olf dying every day in India is a crime against Humanity. This is a problem that needs to be fixed, and in order for anybody to want to fix it, people need to become aware to know that this problem exists.

The types of problems that you listed that are happening in western countries, I agree with you completely and I have talked about all of those problems many times before. I talk about problems happening all over the world, because I want people to learn about these so that they can be fixed. I want people's lives to be improved.

 

[Henu the Great]

You are calling valid criticism "Tantrums". Just proves my points really. You have problems with my opinions because it does not automatically praise everything that's done here. You think bring rude is the best way to shut down criticism.
Unity here is only possible if one has really low self-esteem or no self-respect and has a boot licking attitude.
I don't think you know why I had to ask the original question. Someone clearly said that Hindus/India is the most disgusting. This is clearly hating on a single country and religion. So your point 1 is completely wrong.
Of course, it made me upset like it should. Would you feel good if I said your country/religion is the most disgusting based on some internet videos?
Just like last time I didn't ask you to reply. Yet you still have a problem. You could have just ignored it. But no. You had to say something rude.

Firstly, being in disagreement does not equate rudeness. Disagreements are part of life, and nothing to be so upset over for extended periods when taking part of online forum discussions.

If I was situated somewhere where sanitation problems were the norm, I would not be upset over someone mentioning them (because being aware of issues is the number one step in correcting them). I am not upset over terrible issues in my location either, because I (we, really) have the means to turn the ship around, so to speak. I think this realization becomes with maturity.

I replied mainly because you have failed to reflect on your conduct which is based being emotionally reactive with a hostile tone which is not something conductive for constructive discussion. Please note that we are replying calmly to you.

Again, I ask you to take a step back and reflect on yourself, AND the points given in a calm manner. Maybe you need to take a break from internet or something. I just finished a hard workout and feel good.

 

[Antoniae Adoratrix]

Firstly, being in disagreement does not equate rudeness. Disagreements are part of life, and nothing to be so upset over for extended periods when taking part of online forum discussions.

If I was situated somewhere where sanitation problems were the norm, I would not be upset over someone mentioning them (because being aware of issues is the number one step in correcting them). I am not upset over terrible issues in my location either, because I (we, really) have the means to turn the ship around, so to speak. I think this realization becomes with maturity.

I replied mainly because you have failed to reflect on your conduct which is based being emotionally reactive with a hostile tone which is not something conductive for constructive discussion. Please note that we are replying calmly to you.

Again, I ask you to take a step back and reflect on yourself, AND the points given in a calm manner. Maybe you need to take a break from internet or something. I just finished a hard workout and feel good.

What conduct of mine was worst than you justifying racism? You are trolling right? You or the other guy used propaganda to justify your hate towards a whole country and religion and I called you out on that. I asked that guy to provide quotes from an authentic scripture that bans bathing or any other hygiene for Hindus which he has failed to do so far.
You all started using hostile tone, rude language to shut my criticism and you are asking me to reflect on myself? "Tantrums", "Get off the internet", "reflect on yourself", etc are hostile tone, it doesn't become something else if you are the one using it.
Why don't you take your own advice and start asking yourself why are you so upset about me writing something? Don't you have anything better to do?

 

[Antoniae Adoratrix]

India being disgusting is a simple fact statement. It is not an opinion and is nothing emotional. As I have shown a large amount of evidence for. The country of India is literally covered with human shit everywhere you look, it is the leading country in the entire world for people shitting on the ground, and it is the leading country in the world for children dying due to the diseases caused by shit. You have 188,000 children less than 5 years old dying from diseases caused by everything being contaminated with human shit.

You are such a coward that you think me saying some words to talk about these problems is a worse crime than the problems themselves. 188,000 children dying every single day is less of a problem to you than me mentioning it. How are you afraid of some anonymous person on the internet saying some words? Especially when what I say is true.

You have Hindus drinking cow piss, eating cow shit, and covering their entire bodies from head to toe in cow shit. And this is not some rare event, there are thousands of them who do these things. If you think that eating and drinking shit and piss from a cow, and covering yourself in cow shit, is not a disgusting action, then I don't know what to tell you. I see it as a basic fact statement of reality that India is absolutely entirely disgusting, and many of the people do the most disgusting things. If all of these things are normal to you, you have a very strange idea of what is normal.

Again, provide quotes from an audience Hindu scripture for your claims or stop crying.

 

[Antoniae Adoratrix]

European countries are literally covered in shit based on these evidences but you didn't see me being hateful.

Addressing sanitation challenges in the European Region

Sanitation is defined as access to and use of facilities and services for the safe disposal of human urine and faeces. Access to safely managed sanitation plays a crucial role in protecting public health and in reducing the global infectious disease burden.In the WHO European Region, sanitation...

www.who.int

Revealed: Dutch are least hygienic Europeans

Half of Holland does not wash hands after going to the bathroom. The Bosnians are the cleanest Europeans.

bigthink.com

Equitable access to water and sanitation is still a challenge for Europe

31 million people in Europe do not have access to basic sanitation, 48 million people do not have piped water at home, and more than 300,000 people still practice open defecation, mainly in the countryside.

www.unwater.org

One In 10 European Schools Lack Basic Hand-Washing Facilities - Adding To COVID-19 Risks As Schools Reopen - Health Policy Watch

In past decades, Europe has achieved one of the world's highest water and sanitation coverages, but it is often forgotten that one in ten schools in the 53

healthpolicy-watch.news

Why is San Francisco ... covered in human feces? | Nathan Robinson

People aren’t pooping on the streets because they unlearned basic hygiene. Rather, the incidents reflect shameful levels of inequality in the city

www.theguardian.com

I can provide more if you want.

 

[Antoniae Adoratrix]

It's time you go off the internet and touch some grass otherwise you will see shit everywhere and blame it on an entire religion.

 

[Antoniae Adoratrix]

I very strongly believe in the importance of knowledge and awareness, and as many people as possible learning and becoming aware of problems. Look at israel for the perfect example of this. Israel is now universally hated by most people in the world, because just in the last 2 years most people have learned and become aware of their crimes against Humanity. They did not start genociding innocent Palestinian citizens only in the last 2 years, they have been doing this every single year for decades since the moment that the fake state of israel was established. The only difference now is that many people have only recently learned and become aware of these problems. What if the Palestinians said "Don't talk about these problems, you are offending us, you are making us look weak by not being able to protect ourselves." Then nobody would know what is going on and nobody would be now supporting them.

188,000 children under 5 years olf dying every day in India is a crime against Humanity. This is a problem that needs to be fixed, and in order for anybody to want to fix it, people need to become aware to know that this problem exists.

The types of problems that you listed that are happening in western countries, I agree with you completely and I have talked about all of those problems many times before. I talk about problems happening all over the world, because I want people to learn about these so that they can be fixed. I want people's lives to be improved.

A little piece of advice. Oil your own machine. You are nobody to hate on India when you have much bigger issues to solve. Unless you do so, you are in no position to point fingers at others.
Moreover, many of the problems are because of you people looting the Indian subcontinent for more than 200 years and your Muslim brothers committing genocide, looting, destroying educational institutions before that. It will take a very long time to recover from that. I didn't want to bring this up but you have forced by hands. I know you will out right deny it. Go on do it. That's what you are good at.

 

[BlackFlame333X2]

Only jews are not accepted.

Surely they have plants, infiltrators, sneaky bastids...

 

[SatanCrew]

being an indian i can agree 100% what your saying. Hopefully things do get solved.

Is it possible a lot of the Jews from ww2 incarnated to India after ww2? I think indians saw a profit when himmler came to them before ww2 and plotted. There are 1 billion Indians.

 

[Blitzkreig [TG]]

A little piece of advice. Oil your own machine. You are nobody to hate on India when you have much bigger issues to solve. Unless you do so, you are in no position to point fingers at others.
Moreover, many of the problems are because of you people looting the Indian subcontinent for more than 200 years and your Muslim brothers committing genocide, looting, destroying educational institutions before that. It will take a very long time to recover from that. I didn't want to bring this up but you have forced by hands. I know you will out right deny it. Go on do it. That's what you are good at.

This has started when you had called out Ol Argedco for comments he had made, but we have to be realistic about the states of our countries and problems that do exist. Maybe Ol Argedco was insensitive, but I don't believe he was doing this out of unjust hatred.

Further, what do you or Ol Argedco have to gain by this continued argument? Nobody said Indians were not allowed in ToZ. What do you have to prove against Ol Argedco or others? They are not your boss or determinant for spiritual success.

It was correct to point out that we make use of elements of ancient India, just as modern day India makes use of western technology, but trying to reciprocate what you perceived as hostility is ultimately a waste of your time. How do you expect Ol Argedco to give you the appreciation of India you wish him to have, when you are simultaneously attacking Europe?

It is better to just end this discussion and go work on building yourself. If you are new, then it would make sense to start working on your spiritual routine and progress. If you wish to promote India, you can make pro-Indian threads or posts, but simply attacking anyone who mentions any negative element of India (including true problems it faces), is not a good use of your time.

 

[Henu the Great]

What conduct of mine was worst than you justifying racism? You are trolling right? You or the other guy used propaganda to justify your hate towards a whole country and religion and I called you out on that. I asked that guy to provide quotes from an authentic scripture that bans bathing or any other hygiene for Hindus which he has failed to do so far.
You all started using hostile tone, rude language to shut my criticism and you are asking me to reflect on myself? "Tantrums", "Get off the internet", "reflect on yourself", etc are hostile tone, it doesn't become something else if you are the one using it.
Why don't you take your own advice and start asking yourself why are you so upset about me writing something? Don't you have anything better to do?

No one justified racism. We mentioned real problems, which is not racism. There was no hate or anything, but a simple realization that some problems happen in certain places. That is not hate, but a simple statement of the reality of the situation.

I am not upset, but rather disappointed in your lack of reflection and the need to continue something useless. The original question was whether Hindus were allowed here, and the answer is clear: Every Human being is welcome here. You should stop conflating religion, culture, and Human races. Those are three different things.

 

[HailVictory88]

The most ethnocentric people will always accuse other people of being bigoted but seldom turn that critical view on themselves. What would they see if they had the courage for such self-reflection?

I don't really think there's much to gain from Whites arguing with highly ethnocentric groups. It's not like a light bulb will go off in their head and they'll say "Oh, I understand your points. Our people do have some flaws and aren't always right, there are areas where we can improve. We appreciate the achievements you've won for the world and aspire to improve likewise." They'll always hate us, all the while saying we're bigots who hate everyone who's brown.

The work of the ToZ speaks for itself. If someone can look at the gifts the Ministry has freely offered the world-sermons, meditations, rituals, and constant support provided by people who work regular jobs and do this for free out of the goodness of their soul-they should be able to weigh this against an occasional comment by an individual member who's frustrated by real world problems and comes off a little bit rude.

 

[Helleniser]

European countries are literally covered in shit based on these evidences but you didn't see me being hateful.

A little piece of advice. Oil your own machine. You are nobody to hate on India when you have much bigger issues to solve. Unless you do so, you are in no position to point fingers at others.
Moreover, many of the problems are because of you people looting the Indian subcontinent for more than 200 years and your Muslim brothers committing genocide, looting, destroying educational institutions before that. It will take a very long time to recover from that. I didn't want to bring this up but you have forced by hands. I know you will out right deny it. Go on do it. That's what you are good at.

"Europe is bad, Whites are bad, but I will still use their own technology and language to tell them how glorious drinking cow piss is."

 

[Helleniser]

It's time you go off the internet and touch some grass otherwise you will see shit everywhere and blame it on an entire religion.

You really like attacking prominent members.

 

[Helleniser]

Is it possible a lot of the Jews from ww2 incarnated to India after ww2? I think indians saw a profit when himmler came to them before ww2 and plotted. There are 1 billion Indians.

Your sentence doesn't make sense. Jews can't reincarnate as other Races. Same goes for all Races.

 

[Helleniser]

Surely they have plants, infiltrators, sneaky bastids...

They all get caught.

 

[Henu the Great]

Surely they have plants, infiltrators, sneaky bastids...

One can not infiltrate past a point, it becomes evident that one is not equipped with a human soul. And since they can not pass as a human, realistically they can not infiltrate at all because the websites are open for all...

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

You assume a lot don't you? Keep barking. I don't care. I am not Indian. I lived there for years and have relatives there. But yeah, I am a Hindu. And you clearly said Hindus are

You are not Indian, but you are from India and your relatives are Indian? And you are taking all of this so personally. If India is the greatest country in the world, then why would you leave? You should still be there in the greatest and cleanest country on Earth.

You literally sound exactly like this muslim woman. Seeing imaginary and fictional racism when it does not really exist.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

European countries are literally covered in shit based on these evidences but you didn't see me being hateful.

Addressing sanitation challenges in the European Region

Sanitation is defined as access to and use of facilities and services for the safe disposal of human urine and faeces. Access to safely managed sanitation plays a crucial role in protecting public health and in reducing the global infectious disease burden.In the WHO European Region, sanitation...

www.who.int

Revealed: Dutch are least hygienic Europeans

Half of Holland does not wash hands after going to the bathroom. The Bosnians are the cleanest Europeans.

bigthink.com

Equitable access to water and sanitation is still a challenge for Europe

31 million people in Europe do not have access to basic sanitation, 48 million people do not have piped water at home, and more than 300,000 people still practice open defecation, mainly in the countryside.

www.unwater.org

One In 10 European Schools Lack Basic Hand-Washing Facilities - Adding To COVID-19 Risks As Schools Reopen - Health Policy Watch

In past decades, Europe has achieved one of the world's highest water and sanitation coverages, but it is often forgotten that one in ten schools in the 53

healthpolicy-watch.news

Why is San Francisco ... covered in human feces? | Nathan Robinson

People aren’t pooping on the streets because they unlearned basic hygiene. Rather, the incidents reflect shameful levels of inequality in the city

www.theguardian.com

I can provide more if you want.

Ok I agree. Some other countries are imperfect. So according to all statistics, how many thousands of times worse is India? If the countries you mention are 0 people per square kilometer, and India is more than 200 per square kilometer.

 

[SatanCrew]

Your sentence doesn't make sense. Jews can't reincarnate as other Races. Same goes for all Races.

So did Nazis reincarnate as whites?

 

[Helleniser]

So did Nazis reincarnate as whites?

Yes.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

So did Nazis reincarnate as whites?

The National Socialists were white. There were other NS and SS groups in other countries who were other races. But if you mean the Germans, I do not understand your question. They were not jews. Your race and your sex do not ever change when you reincarnate.

 

[Hárbarðr]

You really like attacking prominent members.

Just added the OP to my ignore list. Now I don't see their insane rants anymore. Highly recommend it.

 

[Epiphany]

Countries come and go. All have their own problems, some of it is from the enemy, some of it is from ignorance and lack of development, of both individuals and societies as a whole. Zevism transcends borders and national identity. We are a spiritual community, a family under the Gods and this is above everything else. All gentile people are welcome on the path, and awareness can be cultivated here, within oneself first and foremost, so that one can elevate himself, his community and his race, to fulfill the vision set forth by the Gods for each. As one meditates and advances, one can come to see the world as it is and free oneself from irrationality and attachments over temporal things. Our spiritual family and our race is our nation.

 

[Aquarius]

Indian politician drinks water from polluted ‘holy’ river, gets hospitalised

Bhagwant Mann’s office denies reports of illness and says he went to hospital for routine check up

www.independent.co.uk

 

[Henu the Great]

Indian politician drinks water from polluted ‘holy’ river, gets hospitalised

Bhagwant Mann’s office denies reports of illness and says he went to hospital for routine check up

www.independent.co.uk

In before denial: His office has, however, denied the chief minister fell ill and said Mr Mann went to the hospital for a routine checkup.

 

[GoldenWarrior]

Is it possible a lot of the Jews from ww2 incarnated to India after ww2? I think indians saw a profit when himmler came to them before ww2 and plotted. There are 1 billion Indians.

i dont think this is the case , There are 1 billion indians , out of which 20% are muslims , you can say 70% indians are Hindus , which still pray to the Gods , but like its a dimmed down version. The rest 10% consists of christians and jews

 

[Behemoth]

Greetings Bros and Sisters...
You know it takes a courage to accept. Tbh I'm from India and you know what I do not have any problems as said by our SS family... What they are saying are true...

 

[Nordicsupreme]

Greetings Bros and Sisters...
You know it takes a courage to accept. Tbh I'm from India and you know what I do not have any problems as said by our SS family... What they are saying are true...

Thank you for letting people know!
However it is advised users not share such personal information
The OP clearly is resending emotionally and will need sometime to understand we are all in the same boat of spirituality.
Even Zevists need to overcome their past inferior selves to become better. Just assuming perfection because someone is Hindu or even a Zevist completely distorts the point of view of Zevism. After a certain point a person needs to let go of being a Hindu, an Odinist or a Hellenist and be a Zevists. But this takes time.
Only consistent meditation and education will overcome such limiting beliefs in OP

 

[GoldenWarrior]

Greetings Bros and Sisters...
You know it takes a courage to accept. Tbh I'm from India and you know what I do not have any problems as said by our SS family... What they are saying are true...

glad to see another of my indian brothers here. Yes there right in all ways here , no doubt about that.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

Greetings Bros and Sisters...
You know it takes a courage to accept. Tbh I'm from India and you know what I do not have any problems as said by our SS family... What they are saying are true...

I am happy for you to be here. I wish that all of India would join us in working with the Gods in the most direct and effective ways. Imagine having more than a Billion Zevists.

 

[GoldenWarrior]

I am happy for you to be here. I wish that all of India would join us in working with the Gods in the most direct and effective ways. Imagine having more than a Billion Zevists.

it will happen one day brother , for sure , it will

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

I have had problems with my communication since I was a young child, and it used to be extremely difficult for me to talk to people. Being very shy, and also not knowing how to say things in the right way. This is something that I have gotten much better with mostly by being here and writing so many messages to try to help people. And also in my job practice talking to hundreds of all different kinds of people. I am thousands of times better at communication than I used to be when I was young, but it is still not perfect. I know that some things that I say, people assume that it is not in a friendly or nice sounding way. But my intentions are always purely good and always trying to help.

 

[616Taysha]

You know it takes a courage to accept. Tbh I'm from India and you know what I do not have any problems as said by our SS family... What they are saying are true...

Praise to you!

Seriously, living in denial is the best tool the enemy can use to their advantage. Acknowledging the problem is the 1st step to its solving.

Just as @Ol argedco luciftias said, if more people from India joined and dedicated their souls to Father Zeus, India would be purified - and not only physically, but spiritually as well.

Hopefully, it will happen sooner than later - ohhh... when the True India rises, some kosher rears will tremble.