Not happy with the zeus thing

[Ashmadeva]

This isn't right what you guys did to the original website. Temple of ZEUS? REALLY? im sorry but satan is not zeus. Zeus is more attributed to jupier / indra. The gods of heaven. Satan was more attributed to saturn / venus. This is really gonna throw off newcomers. This website is definitely not the same nor will it ever be until its returned into its orginal form. Dont bring zeus into this why would you? This should be a seperate website altogether because trust me this has nothing to do with satan.

 

[Helleniser]

Joined: 43 minutes ago
Posted: 40 minutes ago

 

[Helleniser]

"Satan" is a corrupted form of Zeus.

Study more:

Our Eternal Head God: Zeus, Eternal Truth & His Identities

 

[DAX⥀]

Worry not, an advanced member will be here to answer your question and set you straight in the best way. Just know in simple terms this is the way, Satan is Zeus. Father Zevs has many identities. Perhaps you should ask for guidance in a clear, compassionate and respectful way. You will be shown that this is our wonderful religion in the most truthful and pure way, we have moved into the light, out of the enemies context. Meditate more, open yourself up to the magnificence of our Father, our Creator. You will understand this could be the only possible way, the way it was long ago before the enemy.

 

[Basileus]

Worry not, an advanced member will be here to answer your question and set you straight in the best way.

It does not matter for some people it could be Satan himself or whatever name They identify Him as with and being and it would still be unbelievable for some..

Due to the nature of this whole topic and subject people will need time but a true follower of Satya especially old one and advanced knows that He is all that has been regardless of times and names, one would not debate which God is somehow what and how, instead He will understand that the greatest lesson is to learn about all and carry on with his path towards Enlightenment and Freedom.

 

[FancyMancy]

This isn't right what you guys did to the original website. Temple of ZEUS? REALLY? im sorry but satan is not zeus. Zeus is more attributed to jupier / indra. The gods of heaven. Satan was more attributed to saturn / venus. This is really gonna throw off newcomers. This website is definitely not the same nor will it ever be until its returned into its orginal form. Dont bring zeus into this why would you? This should be a seperate website altogether because trust me this has nothing to do with satan.

You can change the World! Fight the powah, bruthagh!

Joined: 43 minutes ago
Posted: 40 minutes ago

Account count: 6 million.
Time connected with ToZ/JoS: 6 million years.

OK, maybe or maybe not a jew, but obviously not a newbie.

 

[Ashmadeva]

BRING THE WEBSITE TO ITS ORIGINAL FORM OR ELSE SATURN WILL CURSE IT. HOW DARE YOU ALL DISRESPECT SATAN THIS WAY

 

[616Taysha]

Another troll cam here to blather incoherently and show how ALLEGEDLY butthurt it is.

Oh boy, here we go again with another drama queen.

I wonder whether we'll be able to identify the troll after its posts.

 

[Ashmadeva]

SHANI HO SHANI!!! lol the mod only accepts stupidity i guess i cant even express myself here

 

[FancyMancy]

BRING THE WEBSITE TO ITS ORIGINAL FORM OR ELSE SATURN WILL CURSE IT. HOW DARE YOU ALL DISRESPECT SATAN THIS WAY

Prove it, christian.

 

[Alexandros Iowno [TG]]

SHANI HO SHANI!!! lol the mod only accepts stupidity i guess i cant even express myself here

IQ skill issue on your part. Satan loves what we do here, as we honor Him and expand His presence correctly on earth, all else is coping about it.

 

[Masterj810610]

"STOP WAKING PEOPLE UP GOYIM, BRING IT DOWN"

 

[OttoHart]

SHANI HO SHANI!!! lol the mod only accepts stupidity i guess i cant even express myself here

Ashamdeva, joined 3 hours ago, has opinions.

I'm sure everyone is fascinated. Do tell us more.

 

[DAX⥀]

It does not matter for some people it could be Satan himself or whatever name They identify Him as with and being and it would still be unbelievable for some..

Due to the nature of this whole topic and subject people will need time but a true follower of Satya especially old one and advanced knows that He is all that has been regardless of times and names, one would not debate which God is somehow what and how, instead He will understand that the greatest lesson is to learn about all and carry on with his path towards Enlightenment and Freedom.

So true Brother, in time this person will understand it. For now though, they need to meditate more, cleanse, and open themselves up to our wonderful Gods.

 

[Blitzkreig [TG]]

....

The Tripartite Nature Of Zeus: Satan/Beelzebul & Satanic Lore

Greetings everyone, The reason we are making a transition now, is that we want to explore in fuller and accurate terms the deepest truths in spirituality that are present. One of these truths, is the tripartite nature of Zeus. As we all know here, Zeus/Beelzebul and Satan were conflated in the...

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[Hárbarðr]

This isn't right what you guys did to the original website. Temple of ZEUS? REALLY? im sorry but satan is not zeus. Zeus is more attributed to jupier / indra. The gods of heaven. Satan was more attributed to saturn / venus. This is really gonna throw off newcomers. This website is definitely not the same nor will it ever be until its returned into its orginal form. Dont bring zeus into this why would you? This should be a seperate website altogether because trust me this has nothing to do with satan.

I love how all the reverse Christians/Christian Satanists who never read the previous Joy of Satan website come here to seethe about the change.

Take your head out of the buybull for a moment and let's consider what previous website said:

It stated Satan is the Sumerian God Enki and Zeus is his half-brother Enlil/Baalzebul, who is also a Satanic God in Satan's side and one of the four Crowned Princes. They never said anything about Saturn, in fact Saturn an allegory not real.

So if you read the website before you would have no problem with Zeus.

But there's more: it also stated that we do not have anything to do with the jewish/christian lies about Satan. To link him to Saturn and get upset with Zeus means you follow the jewish lies about Satan somehow being "dark" and "evil" and you falsely believe Zeus is somehow the Jewish God. The previous website stated that the jewish god doesn't exist at all and the lies about Satan are just false, all of their bible and Christian mythology are made up lies, and that Satan was unjustly demonized and had lies spread about him and he is really a God of knowledge and the bringer of light and he has nothing to do with the christian idea of "evil".

Literally in the front page stated something like "we do not acknowledge or recognize groups who follow the Judeo-Christian idea of Satan" (that means you).

This is one of the reasons it was changed, because there were reverse christians who never read the main website and came here just because of the name "Satan", not just you but many others too.

Here is the old site if you want to check it out:

Joy of Satan

 

[Hárbarðr]

By the way, I noticed you chose as your name Aeshma Daeva who is the nae Asmodeus in Zoroastrianism and yet you still talk reverse christian BS about Indra? Do you not understand that was also a demonized god that became a "daeva" in Zoroastrianism because Zoroastrians were proto-Christians/Jews who demonized Vedic gods? Even the name "daeva" is the corruption of the Vedic Deva, i.e. they turned the Vedic devas/gods into supposedly "evil" beings.

FYI:

In Vendidad 10.9 and 19.43, three divinities of the Vedic pantheon follow Angra Mainyu in a list of demons: Completely adapted to Iranian phonology, these are Indra (Vedic Indra), Sarva (Vedic Sarva, i.e. Rudra), and Nanghaithya (Vedic Nasatya).

Taken from here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daeva

 

[Hárbarðr]

I wonder whether we'll be able to identify the troll after its posts.

I am assuming it s a new troll, because I can't find a previous pattern. Also, a new account liked all his posts and followed him. Must be either his alt account or another troll.

 

[Tethys333]

Temple of ZEUS? REALLY? im sorry but satan is not zeus.

OK, since you said so it is so.

This website is definitely not the same nor will it ever be until its returned into its orginal form.

If you don't accept the change and even don't go to inquire, that's your problem

This should be a seperate website altogether because trust me this has nothing to do with satan.

What makes you think that everyone will believe you that you are proving yourself ignorant?
please go and read the articles

 

[Tethys333]

RIPORTATE IL SITO WEB ALLA SUA FORMA ORIGINALE O ALTRIMENTI SATURNO LO MALEDIRÀ. COME OSATE MANCARE DI RISPETTO A SATANA IN QUESTO MODO?

Siamo sicuri che siamo noi a mancare di rispetto a Satana?

 

[Disciple of the Serpent]

All the change of name thing is already explained in many Sermons of High Priest Hooded Cobra 666, one need to read these, as these cover all the doubts.

 

[AFODO]

You need to step up your understanding in order to continue and not act this childish next time, you are not all knowing, and certainly no authority here.

As explained in the sermon TG Blitzkreig sent, and in many more by the way, often one single God is represented as multiple Gods, but this is also made obvious for the initiated, Greek initiates for example know that Hades, Poseidon, and Zeus are one being, They are all just Zeus, or "God". Saturn and Jupiter are also one God, Zeus, Satan / Baalzebul.

Now as it was explained as well, Baalzebul is Zeus, He is the King, the Ruler, the God over ALL, everything that IS, and Satan is actually a concept of Truth, But God embodies Truth, so God AKA. Zeus is the Truth, so Baalzebul IS Satan. They are not two beeings we have just been calling Him in 2 different names, one meaning Truth, the other meaning Lord Zeus.

 

[nema]

That's a fascinating concept that's very present in modern culture.. "liking" things, being happy / unhappy with them.
Truth doesn't give a shit if you like it it sounds harsh but it's the.. Truth.

 

[Stormblood]

And what are your credentials, exactly, to come here to order around the brightest minds and souls of humanity, especially HP Hooded Cobra and HPS Lydia?

You have no power here.

 

[Devilinside]

This isn't right what you guys did to the original website. Temple of ZEUS? REALLY? im sorry but satan is not zeus. Zeus is more attributed to jupier / indra. The gods of heaven. Satan was more attributed to saturn / venus. This is really gonna throw off newcomers. This website is definitely not the same nor will it ever be until its returned into its orginal form. Dont bring zeus into this why would you? This should be a seperate website altogether because trust me this has nothing to do with satan.

This is literally what we told by the Clergy is what the enemy wants so if you wish to leave fine; but this is all a singular movement that is recovering *clears throat* TEN THOUSANDS OF YEARS OF KNOWLEDGE and doesn't even charge you for it when just the money working is literally what people have sacrificed their own flesh for; that is how corrupted things have been. I couldn't read between the lines myself so I was saved for this as I am sure many people are.

To the Clergy and all involved thank you helping show where ladders cant be built at; not to mention that you actively share the knowledge on how to make or obtain parts yourself.

Satan = truth in gibberish Satya = truth

We stands SOLELY for truth and I'm sorry but I always felt a deep connection philosophers and their faiths.

This kind of dillydalling doesn't work because if it was wrong and if Zeus is real why hasn't it been changed? You think THEY can lose their way. Hero Maxine was such a literal "BADASS" she accented to the point we have a RITUAL FOR HER! Seriously, why would it be hard to understand everything is slowly updated because the Clergy is doing deep impactful work.

 

[Devilinside]

This is literally what we told by the Clergy is what the enemy wants so if you wish to leave fine; but this is all a singular movement that is recovering *clears throat* TEN THOUSANDS OF YEARS OF KNOWLEDGE and doesn't even charge you for it when just the money working is literally what people have sacrificed their own flesh for; that is how corrupted things have been. I couldn't read between the lines myself so I was saved for this as I am sure many people are.

To the Clergy and all involved thank you helping show where ladders cant be built at; not to mention that you actively share the knowledge on how to make or obtain parts yourself.

Satan = truth in gibberish Satya = truth

We stands SOLELY for truth and I'm sorry but I always felt a deep connection philosophers and their faiths.

This kind of dillydalling doesn't work because if it was wrong and if Zeus is real why hasn't it been changed? You think THEY can lose their way. Hero Maxine was such a literal "BADASS" she accented to the point we have a RITUAL FOR HER! Seriously, why would it be hard to understand everything is slowly updated because the Clergy is doing deep impactful work.

Also Yes I said Zeus in place of the made up name at the end cause it's an insult to our Head God when He has a name I can call him that is his and it's Heavenly father Zeus instead of using the one that is up to guide us on the what was/made up/done to survive.

 

[beagle]

Joined: 43 minutes ago
Posted: 40 minutes ago

"Satan" is a corrupted form of Zeus.

Study more:

Our Eternal Head God: Zeus, Eternal Truth & His Identities

Satan is related to Saturn. Zeus is related to Jupiter. Now, which planets are ruled by Satan? And why didn’t HPS Maxine tell us about Zeus being Satan these new entites?
Are there people who asked question about Zeus to directy Lucifer, Demons.
I'm not judging just wanting to learn

 

[UltraLord]

Its not really about Zeus, its about the archetypal family. Focusing on one God makes us no better than the monotheists, squabbling over nothing. The family is the spirit of mankind. The Olympian Gods are the family unit. Each one of them allows us to empathize with all of humanity. Each one of us has our own God at our own time during any stage of our life. Right now my God is Vishnu. I am his avatar on Earth. One day when I have a family, I will be the avatar of Zeus. When I was in my teens it was Horus. Whether we know it or not the Gods always live through us. We have to reclaim the lens through which they do.

 

[Night Sky]

HP has explained everything. All you have to do is read books about Zeus and do some research. HP has never lied before, so why don’t you just read his answers? We couldn’t explain it better than him—and beyond that, you should read about Greek mythology.

 

[Hárbarðr]

Satan is related to Saturn.

No, he isn't. That misinfo comes from xians and people like David Icke. The JoS site stated that his planets are Uranus and Venus:

Satan

And why didn’t HPS Maxine tell us about Zeus being Satan these new entites?

Everything from the Gods comes in stages. The time wasn't right for that yet.

 

[Stormblood]

And how exactly do you know He didn't tell Her? Do you think all conversations that Lady Maxine had with the Gods are public knowledge?

 

[lilura]

boo hoo, the child doesn’t like the food

 

[Sam Samuel 666]

This isn't right what you guys did to the original website. Temple of ZEUS? REALLY? im sorry but satan is not zeus. Zeus is more attributed to jupier / indra. The gods of heaven. Satan was more attributed to saturn / venus. This is really gonna throw off newcomers. This website is definitely not the same nor will it ever be until its returned into its orginal form. Dont bring zeus into this why would you? This should be a seperate website altogether because trust me this has nothing to do with satan.

Thus the truth this Zeus things is not satanism and we are not interested with Zeus things.... Stop Zeus things please

 

[Blitzkreig [TG]]

Thus the truth this Zeus things is not satanism and we are not interested with Zeus things.... Stop Zeus things please

Yes, it is the truth. This was explained by HPHC; please seek out his sermons on the matter.

Beyond Zeus, many Gods have multiple named identities, or a depth of personality much larger than we currently comprehend. This fact alters our conclusion significantly.

It would be more wise to listen to the Clergy more on this matter, therefore, rather than the simplistic classification or evaluation methods used here.

 

[Hárbarðr]

Thus the truth this Zeus things is not satanism and we are not interested with Zeus things.... Stop Zeus things please

Not sure if you even read the replies by other people above, they already refuted that troll's BS.

I also wrote an entire post proving than even when it was called Joy of Satan, it was ancient Paganism and had nothing to do with the mainstream idea of "Satanism". People like the original poster were never welcome here, they were considered fake Satanists:

Was the old Joy of Satan site mainstream "Satanism"?

I'm addressing here a group of people who aren't satisfied with the change to the Temple of Zeus because they believe it somehow taught mainstream Satanism (i.e. Satan being a dark god, part of xianity e.t.c.). and they disagree with the name Zeus because it is very "different" from that...

ancient-forums.com

The "Satanism" of the previous website was merely Esoteric Ancient Paganism and said that Satan and the Demons are nothing more than the ancient Pagan Gods like Enki,Zeus, Astarte, Hermes, Thoth e.t.c.

If you believe Satan is a "fallen angel", the christian god is real, Satan is a red caricature with horns or is related to darkness, zombies, skeletons, horror stories e.t.c. or use jewish practices like "chanting enns", then you weren't welcome either, because the JoS website said it doesn't want to be associated with people like you.

 

[Acolyte Of Pan 666]

I'm suprised that there are some people here who stubbornly refuse to let go of the jewish framing on our Gods so strongly. It's likely based on over-identifying with being anti-xianity or anti-judaism rather than our true identity, which is esoteric Paganism.

"Satanism" as it was started was jewish. A lot of the "demonic" corrupted names for our Gods are jewish, with origins in hebrew. Astaroth for example is a courruped jewish renaming of Astarte. Why would you choose the name Astaroth over Astarte?

The ones that aren't corrupted with hebrew names are just names for Pagan Gods. You're just adopting an antinomian jewish identity, like xians. True Satanism was always Pagan, something even the enemy admits. Trying to seperate Satanism from Paganism is like trying to seperate a tree from its roots. It doesn't make any sense.

Xians and jews realise clearly that Paganism and Satanism are the same thing. Are they smarter than you? Apparently they are.

Let’s look at “Satanism’s” most famous symbol shall we:

The Pentagram, Pagan.

The Goat horns and symbol, Pagan, corrupted by xians as “devil horns”.

The hebrew letters, jewish. They mean “leviathan”. Leviathan is symbolic of the chaotic dragon defeated by yahweh. The symbol of Leviathan was stolen by jews from Pagan myths of Marduk defeating Tiamat and many other myths of the Head God defeating Chaos, symbolised often as a giant snake or dragon. This is ultimately symbolic of taking control of the kundalini snake. So even the symbolism of the hebrew letters here is pagan.

There’s no such thing as “non-pagan satanism”. Everything in “Satanism” is either Pagan or a jewish corruption.

Lavey, the founder of “Satanism”, was a jew.


Get out of the jewish cave already.

 

[Sam Samuel 666]

I'm suprised that there are some people here who stubbornly refuse to let go of the jewish framing on our Gods so strongly. It's likely based on over-identifying with being anti-xianity or anti-judaism rather than our true identity, which is esoteric Paganism.

"Satanism" as it was started was jewish. A lot of the "demonic" corrupted names for our Gods are jewish, with origins in hebrew. Astaroth for example is a courruped jewish renaming of Astarte. Why would you choose the name Astaroth over Astarte?

The ones that aren't corrupted with hebrew names are just names for Pagan Gods. You're just adopting an antinomian jewish identity, like xians. True Satanism was always Pagan, something even the enemy admits. Trying to seperate Satanism from Paganism is like trying to seperate a tree from its roots. It doesn't make any sense.

Xians and jews realise clearly that Paganism and Satanism are the same thing. Are they smarter than you? Apparently they are.

Let’s look at “Satanism’s” most famous symbol shall we:

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The Pentagram, Pagan.

The Goat horns and symbol, Pagan, corrupted by xians as “devil horns”.

The hebrew letters, jewish. They mean “leviathan”. Leviathan is symbolic of the chaotic dragon defeated by yahweh. The symbol of Leviathan was stolen by jews from Pagan myths of Marduk defeating Tiamat and many other myths of the Head God defeating Chaos, symbolised often as a giant snake or dragon. This is ultimately symbolic of taking control of the kundalini snake. So even the symbolism of the hebrew letters here is pagan.

There’s no such thing as “non-pagan satanism”. Everything in “Satanism” is either Pagan or a jewish corruption.

Lavey, the founder of “Satanism”, was a jew.


Get out of the jewish cave already.

Then are you saying joy of satan is not spiritual satanism or devil worship group. I joined this occult on 2010 and reveals clear that we are devil worshipper and then now you introduce us another God, Zeus. Its better to create two categories those who believe in God of yours, Zeus and us who believe in Satan. Now we have two different ways. This cause a great tension so please try by all the means to fix the problem. As for me l don't believe in your Zeus things is nonsense to me. And l don't even want to know him at all

 

[Acolyte Of Pan 666]

Then are you saying joy of satan is not spiritual satanism or devil worship group. I joined this occult on 2010 and reveals clear that we are devil worshipper and then now you introduce us another God, Zeus. Its better to create two categories those who believe in God of yours, Zeus and us who believe in Satan. Now we have two different ways. This cause a great tension so please try by all the means to fix the problem. As for me l don't believe in your Zeus things is nonsense to me. And l don't even want to know him at all

You fundamenetally don't understand what we're about at all. Why is it always the "I've be here for 10 years" types who seem to be completly ignorant of what the JOS/TOZ says? I've only been here for a year and it didn't take me long to understand fully and catch up with our current knowledge, since I not only read the website but asked questions and talked to senior members, as well as through providence came to the correct conclusions on religion.

Have you actually read the TOZ and its claims?

Have you actually spoken to the Guardians and Clergy about these matters, in detail?

Have you bothered to research who Satan actually is, why He is called Satan in the first place by our enemies, and where the name Satan comes from?

Have you bothered to research the history of occultism, where it came from, what the earliest system of magick is, where the words and terms "devil" and "demons" came from, in what context they were used?

Are you aware of the philosophy behind magick itself, how it works, what the Gods are, and all these things?

It's astonishing. It seems like you have a language barrier though, since it appears english isn't your first language by the way you type. You're just being willfully ignorant at this point and acting no better than a xian who shuts their ears.

 

[Acolyte Of Pan 666]

But also, it shouldn't have taken 20 years for the name shift. It should have happened much sooner imo. TOZ was called the JOS for a very long time, so I understand why the sudden shift in names shocked a lot of people.

 

[Henu the Great]

Then are you saying joy of satan is not spiritual satanism or devil worship group. I joined this occult on 2010 and reveals clear that we are devil worshipper and then now you introduce us another God, Zeus. Its better to create two categories those who believe in God of yours, Zeus and us who believe in Satan. Now we have two different ways. This cause a great tension so please try by all the means to fix the problem. As for me l don't believe in your Zeus things is nonsense to me. And l don't even want to know him at all

I think it is very important to try to understand other people and what they are trying to say before jumping to conclusions as extreme as you have done. I already replied to your topic earlier that there is a mass of new material, and you clearly need to educate yourself.

Again, Zeus is Satan. Satan is also known as MANY other names during different times and ages.