"Darkness is light turned inside out"

[sinbad]

What are the implications of this quote by Lord Zeus?

 

[Sonne]

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[HadesWithin666]

What are the implications of this quote by Lord Zeus?

It means many things and they are understood differently later on especially when you evolve, everyone will tell you their personal opinion about what they think it means.

To me, it means that good and evil or light and dark are the same coin with two sides, flipped differently.

They can't exist one without the other and they co-exist together, that's all.

For example, on the forum , you will see people who are more inclined towards the dark side of existence and others towards the light side, some are more ‘evil’ others more ‘good’ but the context of good and evil also differs depending on civilisation and many other things.

 

[FamesRabida]

Darkness and light in this context I believe is what can be seen and what can't be.

It's supposedly a quote by Beelzebub. I believe it is a reference to duality, that light can't exist without darkness. For it to be true, light would have to exist as an infinite quantity at infinite intensity, not a theoretical infinity but a literal infinity. Darkness itself doesn't exist, it's not a separate thing from light instead it's more so a lower intensity of light. Even if you're not able to see in the dark, there still exists some amount of light outside of the visible light spectrum (think infrared and ultraviolet). We only see about 0.0034% of the light around us at all times. Light isn't infinite as neither is the universe, and obviously light ranges in different intensities.

Basically, what I'm saying is that there is no 100% light or darkness. Even if you were to achieve 99.99999% of either, that still leaves .00001% remaining. Yes, these miniscule values are relevant in these matters.

 

[Masterj810610]

Maybe this can help understand what He means.

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[Stormblood]

Understanding it is part of advancement. The more you advance spiritually, the more you understand.

 

[FancyMancy]

To me, it means that good and evil or light and dark are the same coin with two sides, flipped differently.

They can't exist one without the other and they co-exist together, that's all.

That doesn't make sense to me, that good and evil must both exist, and co-exist. Taking Tartarus, I am not certain whether it is -

• eternal, like christian/muslim hell, or
• to destroy the Soul into second and eternal death, or
• an extended period but then the criminal/perpetrator/evil one may reincarnate to try again and become a God or Goddess eventually

or maybe other, for Humans; for the jew and its reptillian overlords, presumably eternal punishment and/or eventual second, eternal death. If both good and evil must exist together, then those who do evil or pure evil, e.g. the jew and any Human who has a fucked-up constitution, then the baddies are actually helping the good side and the decent Souls achieve heights, so in a sense, or literally, the evil and the damned should be thanked and revered and protected from second, eternal death - but no doubt it's more nonsensically-complicated and biblical-study-esque than that to understand because I'm a lowly Human who doesn't have Godly thinking nor understanding.

If the Gods and Goddesses apparently live in Correct and Pure existence, then... somewhere, or perhaps more than one Planet or Solar System, needs to be an evil shithole with low vibration so as to prop-up the Gods and Goddesses with higher vibration... if both good and evil must exist and coexist. Earth is in a bad state now, so who 'out there' iscausing that for us so they can be better themselves? If we are to rid Earth of the jew and its shit, and then re-lift Her and Her Inhabitants back up to a better state, then somewhere, or more than one elsewhere, must be lowered down into a craphole to keep "the balance". We raise our vibrational existence here; elsewhere must lower their vibrational existence or must have a lower vibrational existence to compensate us, so everything on the see-saw stays just about teetering and not toppling over in the wrong directions. This echange of good and evil, higher and lower vibrations and energies, helps stabilise the see-saw. That doesn't make sense.

Light isn't infinite as neither is the universe

What is outside the Universe? If it is expanding, what is it expanding into? "Itself"? Like a balloon which itself expands? Into another medium. If the Universe is expanding, then there is something there for it to expand into, to fill-up which apparently will never be completed, so this "outside" content is there. Even if it is 0, nothing, not-anything, then that is still a thing. The absense of anything and all things is still something. If there is a Planet "at the edge of the Universe", then could anyone intelligent enough there go "outside" the Universe by breaching the... barrier or edge or whatever? Could there be e.g. a spaceship with crew that goes beyond the edge of the Universe into the whatever after and survive? I don't suppose you know the answers to some of these questions, but I'm just trying to make points.

In case you might mention multiverse, omniverse, etc.
If the Physical Universe is finite since it's supposed to be expanding, and the Aether AKA Energetic/Spiritual Universe is infinite since we can raise Energies seemingly out of nowhere and that E=mc^2 so the infinite Energetic/Spiritual Universe literally creates the finite Physical Universe, then perhaps there are many universes - ours 'bubbled-up' over here, and others 'bubbled-up' anywhere else, and each, presumably, are expanding into the Aether, the Void, the Dark Energy, and eventually might merge. If there are multiple universes, then there is still 1 of all of them. If they each are expanding, then that presumes the big bang happened, but the James Webb Space Telescope found galaxies which appeared too close to the time of the big bang to be as old as they were, meaning that they would have formed before the Universe's biggest explosion, i.e. the galaxies existed before the rewound time of when the big bang was supposed to have happened.

There's also the point of having a location of the big bang to happen, so Space existed already for the big bang to happen within it and then to expand into it, and the clouds of gas and dust and whatever else had to have been there before the big bang happened so that they could "come together", to cause the big bang to happen, so gas, dust etc. existed before the big bang happened. So in short, galaxies existed before the big bang, space existed before the big bang, and matter existed before the big bang.

The Universe existed already, before the big bang. It has been said that the Universe is triangle-shaped. I don't know if that is literal or symbolic/metaphorical. Also if the Universe is not a 2-D object, then triangle would not be quite accurate. Sacred geometry exists - take the 6-sided shape on Saturn's north pole, coincidentally 6-sided, since Phaeton is now the inner asteroid belt. With the Planet spinning, my Mind tells me it should be streaks or an oval or circle around the pole, not a hexagon. If the Universe is expanding, then it does appear the big bang happened, but space and matter existed to cause the big bang to explode, and galaxies, as found by JWST, were found to be too old that soon after the big bang meaning they formed beforehand.



Tying both of my replies to HadesWithin666 and FamesRabida together - if we raise Energies here in our little neck of the woods, which makes our existence better and with higher vibrations, then we must, apparently, be stealing Energies from elsewhere, siphoning-off their Energies, causing elsewhere to be lower in vibration, all for "balance" and "coexistence" of "good and evil" to happen. Furthermore - why is it morality that decides balance of the Universe? Non-life entities (rocks, soil), non-sentient life entities (plants, fruit and veg), and sentient but lower-intelligence life entities (lower Animals) all exist, and they get on and (the living ones) live and have lived for millions of years without morals before Humans popped-up onto the scene. Before Humans existed, and subsequently the reptillians and the jew came and raped Earth and Her Inhabitants, Earth was "an eden", and life went on. As life went on, things happened - we consider Animals ripping Animals to shreds and to death bad, but it's Nature and veganism is stupid; we consider rape evil but in the Animal kingdom, some do "rape" others or the young of whichever species. "Rape" and "murder" are Human legal terms, so Animals doing them is technically not rape/murder, no matter how much we might find the act abhorrent.

Animals "raping" and killing others is not good and is not evil. When we watch a TV programme or film and see, e.g. a fluffy, cuddly Animal being snapped-up by a crocodile, we hate the crocodile, but the crocodile has to eat. It's not evil. This (maybe except for the bunny rabbit being eaten by the crocodile) happened for many millions of years before Humans existed, and it's neither good nor bad. Then Humans existed, and then comes morality. Apparently, baddies need to exist to make goodies better, for "balance", so crime and punishment, and sin and damnation, should happen so that everlasting life and freedom, and existence and growth and betterment and improvement can continue. It's OK for poetic use of light = good and darkness = bad, but why would morality balance the Universe? Apparently, without evil, good "cannot shine". It seems utopia should not exist, and apparently, evil seems to overpower and outnumber good, as was said to have happened with the reptillians outnumbering the Gods and Goddesses, and Phaeton was destroyed by the more-powerful, more-numerous evil. It seems to be a metaphor for going to the gym and doing the bad ripping of your muscles - literally, AKA the term "ripped" - so that you can do the good of building up your muscles. No pain (sin, evil, wrong), no gain (everlasting life, improvement, advancement)?

If, however, Energy and the Energetic/Spiritual Universe is infinite, which might contradict the First Law of Thermodynamics in modern mainstream Science (there being only a finite amount of Energy in a closed system which also applies to the Universe itself as a whole), then we don't need to steal Energies from elsewhere. To me, that means that good can exist without evil. At all. Totally. Entirely. Absolutely. Eventually.

Separately from morality, since the Soul is made oc light, as LADY Lilith said, one could argue that the Physical Body is 'darkness'. Energy = Matter, and as I say Matter is Energy that is compressed and compacted in different forms and patterns. Of course, being enlightened means to receive knowledge and understand it, so darkness means ignorance.

I might not be correct in these things in this post here. It's just what I'm thinking.

 

[FamesRabida]

That doesn't make sense to me, that good and evil must both exist, and co-exist. Taking Tartarus, I am not certain whether it is -

• eternal, like christian/muslim hell, or
• to destroy the Soul into second and eternal death, or
• an extended period but then the criminal/perpetrator/evil one may reincarnate to try again and become a God or Goddess eventually

or maybe other, for Humans; for the jew and its reptillian overlords, presumably eternal punishment and/or eventual second, eternal death. If both good and evil must exist together, then those who do evil or pure evil, e.g. the jew and any Human who has a fucked-up constitution, then the baddies are actually helping the good side and the decent Souls achieve heights, so in a sense, or literally, the evil and the damned should be thanked and revered and protected from second, eternal death - but no doubt it's more nonsensically-complicated and biblical-study-esque than that to understand because I'm a lowly Human who doesn't have Godly thinking nor understanding.

If the Gods and Goddesses apparently live in Correct and Pure existence, then... somewhere, or perhaps more than one Planet or Solar System, needs to be an evil shithole with low vibration so as to prop-up the Gods and Goddesses with higher vibration... if both good and evil must exist and coexist. Earth is in a bad state now, so who 'out there' iscausing that for us so they can be better themselves? If we are to rid Earth of the jew and its shit, and then re-lift Her and Her Inhabitants back up to a better state, then somewhere, or more than one elsewhere, must be lowered down into a craphole to keep "the balance". We raise our vibrational existence here; elsewhere must lower their vibrational existence or must have a lower vibrational existence to compensate us, so everything on the see-saw stays just about teetering and not toppling over in the wrong directions. This echange of good and evil, higher and lower vibrations and energies, helps stabilise the see-saw. That doesn't make sense.


What is outside the Universe? If it is expanding, what is it expanding into? "Itself"? Like a balloon which itself expands? Into another medium. If the Universe is expanding, then there is something there for it to expand into, to fill-up which apparently will never be completed, so this "outside" content is there. Even if it is 0, nothing, not-anything, then that is still a thing. The absense of anything and all things is still something. If there is a Planet "at the edge of the Universe", then could anyone intelligent enough there go "outside" the Universe by breaching the... barrier or edge or whatever? Could there be e.g. a spaceship with crew that goes beyond the edge of the Universe into the whatever after and survive? I don't suppose you know the answers to some of these questions, but I'm just trying to make points.

In case you might mention multiverse, omniverse, etc.
If the Physical Universe is finite since it's supposed to be expanding, and the Aether AKA Energetic/Spiritual Universe is infinite since we can raise Energies seemingly out of nowhere and that E=mc^2 so the infinite Energetic/Spiritual Universe literally creates the finite Physical Universe, then perhaps there are many universes - ours 'bubbled-up' over here, and others 'bubbled-up' anywhere else, and each, presumably, are expanding into the Aether, the Void, the Dark Energy, and eventually might merge. If there are multiple universes, then there is still 1 of all of them. If they each are expanding, then that presumes the big bang happened, but the James Webb Space Telescope found galaxies which appeared too close to the time of the big bang to be as old as they were, meaning that they would have formed before the Universe's biggest explosion, i.e. the galaxies existed before the rewound time of when the big bang was supposed to have happened.

There's also the point of having a location of the big bang to happen, so Space existed already for the big bang to happen within it and then to expand into it, and the clouds of gas and dust and whatever else had to have been there before the big bang happened so that they could "come together", to cause the big bang to happen, so gas, dust etc. existed before the big bang happened. So in short, galaxies existed before the big bang, space existed before the big bang, and matter existed before the big bang.

The Universe existed already, before the big bang. It has been said that the Universe is triangle-shaped. I don't know if that is literal or symbolic/metaphorical. Also if the Universe is not a 2-D object, then triangle would not be quite accurate. Sacred geometry exists - take the 6-sided shape on Saturn's north pole, coincidentally 6-sided, since Phaeton is now the inner asteroid belt. With the Planet spinning, my Mind tells me it should be streaks or an oval or circle around the pole, not a hexagon. If the Universe is expanding, then it does appear the big bang happened, but space and matter existed to cause the big bang to explode, and galaxies, as found by JWST, were found to be too old that soon after the big bang meaning they formed beforehand.



Tying both of my replies to HadesWithin666 and FamesRabida together - if we raise Energies here in our little neck of the woods, which makes our existence better and with higher vibrations, then we must, apparently, be stealing Energies from elsewhere, siphoning-off their Energies, causing elsewhere to be lower in vibration, all for "balance" and "coexistence" of "good and evil" to happen. Furthermore - why is it morality that decides balance of the Universe? Non-life entities (rocks, soil), non-sentient life entities (plants, fruit and veg), and sentient but lower-intelligence life entities (lower Animals) all exist, and they get on and (the living ones) live and have lived for millions of years without morals before Humans popped-up onto the scene. Before Humans existed, and subsequently the reptillians and the jew came and raped Earth and Her Inhabitants, Earth was "an eden", and life went on. As life went on, things happened - we consider Animals ripping Animals to shreds and to death bad, but it's Nature and veganism is stupid; we consider rape evil but in the Animal kingdom, some do "rape" others or the young of whichever species. "Rape" and "murder" are Human legal terms, so Animals doing them is technically not rape/murder, no matter how much we might find the act abhorrent.

Animals "raping" and killing others is not good and is not evil. When we watch a TV programme or film and see, e.g. a fluffy, cuddly Animal being snapped-up by a crocodile, we hate the crocodile, but the crocodile has to eat. It's not evil. This (maybe except for the bunny rabbit being eaten by the crocodile) happened for many millions of years before Humans existed, and it's neither good nor bad. Then Humans existed, and then comes morality. Apparently, baddies need to exist to make goodies better, for "balance", so crime and punishment, and sin and damnation, should happen so that everlasting life and freedom, and existence and growth and betterment and improvement can continue. It's OK for poetic use of light = good and darkness = bad, but why would morality balance the Universe? Apparently, without evil, good "cannot shine". It seems utopia should not exist, and apparently, evil seems to overpower and outnumber good, as was said to have happened with the reptillians outnumbering the Gods and Goddesses, and Phaeton was destroyed by the more-powerful, more-numerous evil. It seems to be a metaphor for going to the gym and doing the bad ripping of your muscles - literally, AKA the term "ripped" - so that you can do the good of building up your muscles. No pain (sin, evil, wrong), no gain (everlasting life, improvement, advancement)?

If, however, Energy and the Energetic/Spiritual Universe is infinite, which might contradict the First Law of Thermodynamics in modern mainstream Science (there being only a finite amount of Energy in a closed system which also applies to the Universe itself as a whole), then we don't need to steal Energies from elsewhere. To me, that means that good can exist without evil. At all. Totally. Entirely. Absolutely. Eventually.

Separately from morality, since the Soul is made oc light, as LADY Lilith said, one could argue that the Physical Body is 'darkness'. Energy = Matter, and as I say Matter is Energy that is compressed and compacted in different forms and patterns. Of course, being enlightened means to receive knowledge and understand it, so darkness means ignorance.

I might not be correct in these things in this post here. It's just what I'm thinking.

Hm... I want to reply to this but I didn't have the time to break this down. I'll quickly say that yes, there is finite energy even if it might as well be infinite, taking power for ourselves is taking power from something else (be it from nature or from the jews as they did us). We may as well consider us taking power from each other if our intentions aren't perfectly aligned, though expectedly this misalignment would be mostly negligible. Your way of expanding thought is useful up to a certain point, but I've gotten into the habit of simplification. I just don't have time to write an essay I can't even guarantee won't get nuked by some mod about something self explanatory.

 

[FancyMancy]

Hm... I want to reply to this but I didn't have the time to break this down. I'll quickly say that yes, there is finite energy even if it might as well be infinite, taking power for ourselves is taking power from something else (be it from nature or from the jews as they did us). We may as well consider us taking power from each other if our intentions aren't perfectly aligned, though expectedly this misalignment would be mostly negligible. Your way of expanding thought is useful up to a certain point, but I've gotten into the habit of simplification. I just don't have time to write an essay I can't even guarantee won't get nuked by some mod about something self explanatory.

It's fine. I'm going to add more!

I'm also considering "exotic particles" which appear to appear out of nowhere. If there is a limited amount of Energy, an absolute limit, then once Earth and Her Inhabitants fix the Earth again, and then everyone becomes immortal, and then we continue to have Children and generations ad (nearly) infinitum (if you will), then there will be a definite point where... Star Trek again... everyone is at maximum and in an over-the-top idiot way as depicted in one episode, everyone is literally squashed together due to overbreeding and no more room - in real terms, what I mean is we'd 'consume' all of the Energy, eventually, and then we'd not be able to advance any further. It's been said that Spiritual advancement is unending, is eternal. These are literal terms, not metaphorical nor symbolic.

To make it easier to understand - take a large building, which represents all of the definitely-limited, finite Energies in total. No-one can escape the boundaries of it, but people keep growing and having Children in there, taking up space and making furniture and sculptures and consuming resources (Energy). Even if birth control is done, we'd still consume Energies as a Natural part of our existence, as standard process. After X time, the maximum of the building would be reached, and if we're immortal in the very large building, we'd, in one way or another, suffocate. Unless it is like a sealed terrarium where everything is recycled and nothing new happens - but which still needs outside input from the Sun for warmth and Energies. There was a Man who had a terrarium and after the last time of watering it, he never watered it again because the water and nutrients were recycled internally. In 1960, David Latimer used a terrarium and watered it once in 1972, then sealed it, and it continued to thrive. Of course, the plants still needed outside input - the Sun for warmth and Energies and photosynthesis. If the entire Universe has a limit, then without any input from "outside the Universe" to keep sustaining us, then we'd consume all things and die. Unless perhaps we'd somehow follow the Kardashev scale and become as traditionally-though-of Gods and Goddeses "outside the Universe" and [insert current creationist "god" examples here].

Unless there are some things I'm missing. I try to consider enough things, of course!