Spell when a Planet is in a fall/detriment sign?

[luis]

We all know that when a planet is retrograde a spell that has an affinity with that planet will not work or worse backfire. Let's say we have an emergency and need to do a healing spell right now while the Sun is in Libra, is it worth doing it? Is the planet's energy so weak that it's not worth it?

I don't think it's going to backfire but I just wonder if it's worth doing it, like putting a lot of energy towards it because it's an emergency and then restarting it at a better date in the future to make it more permanent or more powerful. There is nothing on the Jos about it, we just know it's not worth starting a square while the planet's energy are so weak and I guess even a "normal" spell.

 

[Vivek]

This will exacerbate the negative manifestation's of the sign/planet.

You'd be better off working with solar runes/mantras.

 

[Vivek]

Nevermind, I misread. I thought you were talking about the square.

What you've mentioned is largely dependent on your own power, but it's always more efficient to work with these things according to ideal astrological timing's of course, but less necessary if your soul power is strong enough.

 

[Henu the Great]

We all know that when a planet is retrograde a spell that has an affinity with that planet will not work or worse backfire. Let's say we have an emergency and need to do a healing spell right now while the Sun is in Libra, is it worth doing it? Is the planet's energy so weak that it's not worth it?

I don't think it's going to backfire but I just wonder if it's worth doing it, like putting a lot of energy towards it because it's an emergency and then restarting it at a better date in the future to make it more permanent or more powerful. There is nothing on the Jos about it, we just know it's not worth starting a square while the planet's energy are so weak and I guess even a "normal" spell.

You would be getting suboptimal results in comparison to average or optimal timing regardless of your level.

 

[luis]

You would be getting suboptimal results in comparison to average or optimal timing regardless of your level.

I understand this but in an emergency small results are better than no results. What do you think?

 

[luis]

I guess I'm going to tag @HPS Lydia and @Hp. Hoodedcobra666, is it dangerous to start a spell when a planet is in a fall/detriment sign? I'm just talking about adding energy to something when you have an emergency and then start a spell when the time is right. For example would it be bad to start a cleaning/protection spell right now? The Sun is in Libra. I just need to know since it's not wrote on Jos if it's going to backfire like when the planets are retrograde or something.

I'm asking the Hps not because I don't trust you Henu but I just need to be 100% sure if it's dangerous as in backfire or just it's way less powerful so not worth to do it.

 

[HPS Lydia]

I guess I'm going to tag @HPS Lydia and @Hp. Hoodedcobra666, is it dangerous to start a spell when a planet is in a fall/detriment sign? I'm just talking about adding energy to something when you have an emergency and then start a spell when the time is right. For example would it be bad to start a cleaning/protection spell right now? The Sun is in Libra. I just need to know since it's not wrote on Jos if it's going to backfire like when the planets are retrograde or something.

I'm asking the Hps not because I don't trust you Henu but I just need to be 100% sure if it's dangerous as in backfire or just it's way less powerful so not worth to do it.

Hello

It's not dangerous, but using Solar mantra will be weaker. You can try another mantra instead. For healing, a rune such as Thurisaz or Vynn. For protection, runes such as Bjarkan or Sowilo. Cleaning, sanskrit mantra Visuddhi.

Yes, Sowilo is a solar rune, but it isn't weakened during this time as using the actual mantra of the Sun. The runes have powers from constellations, not from the planets in our solar system. The runes do correspond to our planets, such as Neptune and Logr, but they are not from our planets.

 

[luis]

Hello

It's not dangerous, but using Solar mantra will be weaker. You can try another mantra instead. For healing, a rune such as Thurisaz or Vynn. For protection, runes such as Bjarkan or Sowilo. Cleaning, sanskrit mantra Visuddhi.

Yes, Sowilo is a solar rune, but it isn't weakened during this time as using the actual mantra of the Sun. The runes have powers from constellations, not from the planets in our solar system. The runes do correspond to our planets, such as Neptune and Logr, but they are not from our planets.

Thanks, HPS.

 

[Mint666]

I was about to start a thread but this one is close enough of a question to what I wanted to ask.

Hello

It's not dangerous, but using Solar mantra will be weaker. You can try another mantra instead. For healing, a rune such as Thurisaz or Vynn. For protection, runes such as Bjarkan or Sowilo. Cleaning, sanskrit mantra Visuddhi.

Yes, Sowilo is a solar rune, but it isn't weakened during this time as using the actual mantra of the Sun. The runes have powers from constellations, not from the planets in our solar system. The runes do correspond to our planets, such as Neptune and Logr, but they are not from our planets.

Does this apply the same for chakra empowerment as it does spellwork?
And is it any different if a planet is retrograde as opposed to being in a weak sign?

Right now while both Venus and Mercury are retrograde and if I want to empower my Heart or Throat chakra, then will runes be stronger than Bija mantras?

 

[HPS Lydia]

I was about to start a thread but this one is close enough of a question to what I wanted to ask.



Does this apply the same for chakra empowerment as it does spellwork?
And is it any different if a planet is retrograde as opposed to being in a weak sign?

Right now while both Venus and Mercury are retrograde and if I want to empower my Heart or Throat chakra, then will runes be stronger than Bija mantras?

Yes, for chakra empowerment it is best if the ruling chakra is in a strong sign, even if using runes. Mercury is direct now btw. I would avoid if the planet is retrograde or in a weak sign.

If a working has already been started to empower a chakra and the ruling planet goes Rx or enters a weak sign you can continue with basic empowerment.

 

[luis]

Yes, for chakra empowerment it is best if the ruling chakra is in a strong sign, even if using runes. Mercury is direct now btw. I would avoid if the planet is retrograde or in a weak sign.

If a working has already been started to empower a chakra and the ruling planet goes Rx or enters a weak sign you can continue with basic empowerment.

What about full chakra meditation? Starting it when a certain planet is weak or retrograde would it be a problem?
And another thing if I can ask, I do my cleaning with Raum mantra and right after I do my protection with Satanas, after this I do my full chakra meditation. I have to questions, is it okay to do everything one after the other, cleaning and protection like I do. And I use Raum for cleaning and Raum in my full chakra meditation, is it a problem? Sometimes I have doubts.

 

[Henu the Great]

I have to questions, is it okay to do everything one after the other, cleaning and protection like I do. And I use Raum for cleaning and Raum in my full chakra meditation, is it a problem? Sometimes I have doubts.

You can do like this, for example. AUM - Whatever you do - AUM. That should make sure that close sessions are not interfering with each other.

 

[HPS Lydia]

What about full chakra meditation? Starting it when a certain planet is weak or retrograde would it be a problem?
And another thing if I can ask, I do my cleaning with Raum mantra and right after I do my protection with Satanas, after this I do my full chakra meditation. I have to questions, is it okay to do everything one after the other, cleaning and protection like I do. And I use Raum for cleaning and Raum in my full chakra meditation, is it a problem? Sometimes I have doubts.

Satanas for protection? Satanas is for empowering the soul and chakras. I would suggest to use a mantra for protection instead, that way the energy of the mantra is in itself protecting, and not relying solely on your affirmation after raising energy, which is what Satanas name-mantra does.

Yes you can do those one after the other. Raum for cleaning and then in your solar chakra is fine.

 

[luis]

Satanas for protection? Satanas is for empowering the soul and chakras. I would suggest to use a mantra for protection instead, that way the energy of the mantra is in itself protecting, and not relying solely on your affirmation after raising energy, which is what Satanas name-mantra does.

Yes you can do those one after the other. Raum for cleaning and then in your solar chakra is fine.

I understand thank you. I just changed my routine and I'm doing the Returning curses, I did it in the past but I was feeling I needed to do it again.

For the Satanas I always thought it was a good general mantra to use for everything, but what you say makes sense.

Sometimes I have some doubts about the things I'm doing even tho I felt everything was working. Sorry to bother you

 

[HPS Lydia]

I understand thank you. I just changed my routine and I'm doing the Returning curses, I did it in the past but I was feeling I needed to do it again.

For the Satanas I always thought it was a good general mantra to use for everything, but what you say makes sense.

Sometimes I have some doubts about the things I'm doing even tho I felt everything was working. Sorry to bother you

You're not bothering me, I am here to help

 

[old_member]

Satanas for protection? Satanas is for empowering the soul and chakras. I would suggest to use a mantra for protection instead, that way the energy of the mantra is in itself protecting, and not relying solely on your affirmation after raising energy, which is what Satanas name-mantra does.

Yes you can do those one after the other. Raum for cleaning and then in your solar chakra is fine.

I thought Satanas was generally good for anything, an all rounder mantra, if one is unable to find a rune according to his/her goal, one can vibrate satanas in his/her soul and direct its energies. Or thats not the case? Its more for empowering the chakras and not for overall anything?

 

[HPS Lydia]

I thought Satanas was generally good for anything, an all rounder mantra, if one is unable to find a rune according to his/her goal, one can vibrate satanas in his/her soul and direct its energies. Or thats not the case? Its more for empowering the chakras and not for overall anything?

Yes, for raising energy for a goal, it will work

 

[old_member]

Yes, for raising energy for a goal, it will work

ok thank you very much Hp , i was using solely satanas for a goal. I would like to ask something else as well HP, congrats on that btw, from JG to HP, last time i was on forums u were JG. Hope u grow and advance much more, happy for you. Hp Lydia, which rune will work best for making someone contact me? We were in contact but not anymore, but i would like that person to contact me now. There are some things. Which rune will work best with "___ is now contacting me in a positive and happy way for me"
I can use wunjo and program it "___ is now mending things with me in pos and happy way for me" but contact would take less energy and will be quicker to manifest once its done i wanna take it from there, so can u please tell me which would work best with contacting?

 

[HPS Lydia]

ok thank you very much Hp , i was using solely satanas for a goal. I would like to ask something else as well HP, congrats on that btw, from JG to HP, last time i was on forums u were JG. Hope u grow and advance much more, happy for you. Hp Lydia, which rune will work best for making someone contact me? We were in contact but not anymore, but i would like that person to contact me now. There are some things. Which rune will work best with "___ is now contacting me in a positive and happy way for me"
I can use wunjo and program it "___ is now mending things with me in pos and happy way for me" but contact would take less energy and will be quicker to manifest once its done i wanna take it from there, so can u please tell me which would work best with contacting?

Thank you

Influencing someone to take the initiative takes much more energy and doesn't always work out because it can go against their free will. It will likely result in them thinking of you, perhaps wanting to hear from you, but reluctant to actually contact you unless they already were thinking of contacting you. But they might not contact you if they are busy in their life, we often put off contacting the people we used to know.

Instead, you can do a working to open them to the idea of being happy to hear from you, and then you initiate the contact.

Wunjo rune would be great to use, or Ehwaz (#19), or just program his aura with green or white-gold energy and affirm that he wants to be in contact with you. Do this a few times and then contact him.

 

[old_member]

Thank you

Hps Lydia, with all due respect, if there were any other way to do it, i wouldve done it. This person, only they can take the initiative.

Over years i have been a satanist, years i have meditated without skipping a single day, all the advancement and working on soul, i have always been very responsible with the energies. I m kind of a person who usually scuffs off things and go "mehh it is what it is" and carry on.

But this is something that needs to be done, something i MUST do as a Satanist and as a person. Something i must pull off, and i dont intend on doing something negative after i pull it off. Unlike the people i see here often "i must break them up" "i should do a love spell on a person cuz i like his/her picture"

So yes, i m ready to put in a lot of energy. So much so, that i would even take it a step further and now its waning moon and use wunjo (x80) OR thur (x90) with "all barriers preventing __ from contacting me are now completely breaking down in a positive and happy way for BOTH of us" when moon starts waxing i would proceed with ehwaz with "really wants to be in contact with me" and finally satanas with "__ is now contacting me in a positive and happy way for me" OR CAN I use ehwaz with uruz (incites action) and program them "now wants to contact me and is now contacting me." instead of doing satanas sperately for contacting me and ehwaz sperately for *wanting* to contact me? for making them take the initiative?

I m not the kind of person to ask so many questions, but sorry i cant meddle with this in any way i need to be 100 percent sure, u are advanced and much powerful than me so i asked you, to be 100 percent sure and to leave no stones unturned. And again a satanist to another satanist u have my word i intend on no harm or ill will to person once its done, Hps Lydia.