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Totally opposed to NS. Should I leave?

I was just saying the way people are thinking now in the modern times (translation to English Reptilian Era) doesn't apply to the way it is supposed to be.
 
slyscorpion said:
throwaway5683465 said:
slyscorpion said:
Best example Detroit Chicago San Francisco ok tell me you would willingly choose to live in one of those cities and actually enjoy it. Didn't think so. Has full on mixing ever really fully turned out in a good way for the whole of a society in History. I really can't think of very many examples where it has and when it did work it only did for awhile until things started to degenerate as time went on.

I was actually born and raised in one of those cities that you mentioned. You have absolutely no idea if you are blaming race for the crime and poverty issues there.

Even growing up I could have told you the issue. The State throws the book at law abiding citizens legally defending themselves, and focuses the rest of their effort on exploiting people through fees, penalties, and fines. Criminals are often not investigated or prosecuted. Then when crime is rampant, the State says “give us even more power!” and people do.

I currently live in a city with around 1 million. There has been no change in crime in my city since the riots of 2020, nor was there widespread violence in my city like the ones as seen on TV. The difference being, that I currently live in a state where people can defend themselves and there is police presence in my neighborhood. In fact, the police in my area immediately let go a driver who ran over a bunch of BLM/antifa for blocking their car. No arrest.

People have been moving in droves to my city from California, Minnesota, Illinois, New York, and New Jersey. If you think all cities are like Detroit, Chicago, or SF, you are completely wrong.

Translate into English you live in a place surrounded by liberals npcs and brainwashing and have been around it most your life so you don't want to let it go.

There is some truth like what he said about the state being corrupt and being unjust (which anyone can read up o and most liberals do and love to bring it up only to push their short sighted narrative instead of looking at the whole picture) but he's obviously from the nicer areas of that city since otherwise he would know there's *a lot* of people who do crime for the sake of it in these areas. Imagine telling people here who are from the gutter themselves that these poor people are pacifists or something. Most are literally the opposite and would more than happy run you up if you're a stranger who let your guard down around them. We don't even have to play this game of he said she said either. The interent exists and we know it's complete bullshit to say the crime doesn't have to do at least something with race. Yes it's those other things too but race is also a major factor and for example some black people from the hood and even some hispanics will make that shit clear to you if you're on their bad side and another race.
 
hailourtruegod said:
slyscorpion said:
throwaway5683465 said:
I was actually born and raised in one of those cities that you mentioned. You have absolutely no idea if you are blaming race for the crime and poverty issues there.

Even growing up I could have told you the issue. The State throws the book at law abiding citizens legally defending themselves, and focuses the rest of their effort on exploiting people through fees, penalties, and fines. Criminals are often not investigated or prosecuted. Then when crime is rampant, the State says “give us even more power!” and people do.

I currently live in a city with around 1 million. There has been no change in crime in my city since the riots of 2020, nor was there widespread violence in my city like the ones as seen on TV. The difference being, that I currently live in a state where people can defend themselves and there is police presence in my neighborhood. In fact, the police in my area immediately let go a driver who ran over a bunch of BLM/antifa for blocking their car. No arrest.

People have been moving in droves to my city from California, Minnesota, Illinois, New York, and New Jersey. If you think all cities are like Detroit, Chicago, or SF, you are completely wrong.

Translate into English you live in a place surrounded by liberals npcs and brainwashing and have been around it most your life so you don't want to let it go.

There is some truth like what he said about the state being corrupt and being unjust (which anyone can read up o and most liberals do and love to bring it up only to push their short sighted narrative instead of looking at the whole picture) but he's obviously from the nicer areas of that city since otherwise he would know there's *a lot* of people who do crime for the sake of it in these areas. Imagine telling people here who are from the gutter themselves that these poor people are pacifists or something. Most are literally the opposite and would more than happy run you up if you're a stranger who let your guard down around them. We don't even have to play this game of he said she said either. The interent exists and we know it's complete bullshit to say the crime doesn't have to do at least something with race. Yes it's those other things too but race is also a major factor and for example some black people from the hood and even some hispanics will make that shit clear to you if you're on their bad side and another race.

Yes the people in more urban city type places are far from pacifists. I am aware of this. If anything I think they take things to far in the direction of being aggressive. Any of the people trying to appease to these people or set up laws to their advantage are just dumb and are going to get used. Many of the people that come from these places also can pretend to be nice and your friend and stuff but will just use you. They know how to act very well.

This is almost as bad as those Islamic immigrants in Europe thing to my mind.
 
hailourtruegod said:
slyscorpion said:
throwaway5683465 said:
I was actually born and raised in one of those cities that you mentioned. You have absolutely no idea if you are blaming race for the crime and poverty issues there.

Even growing up I could have told you the issue. The State throws the book at law abiding citizens legally defending themselves, and focuses the rest of their effort on exploiting people through fees, penalties, and fines. Criminals are often not investigated or prosecuted. Then when crime is rampant, the State says “give us even more power!” and people do.

I currently live in a city with around 1 million. There has been no change in crime in my city since the riots of 2020, nor was there widespread violence in my city like the ones as seen on TV. The difference being, that I currently live in a state where people can defend themselves and there is police presence in my neighborhood. In fact, the police in my area immediately let go a driver who ran over a bunch of BLM/antifa for blocking their car. No arrest.

People have been moving in droves to my city from California, Minnesota, Illinois, New York, and New Jersey. If you think all cities are like Detroit, Chicago, or SF, you are completely wrong.

Translate into English you live in a place surrounded by liberals npcs and brainwashing and have been around it most your life so you don't want to let it go.

There is some truth like what he said about the state being corrupt and being unjust (which anyone can read up o and most liberals do and love to bring it up only to push their short sighted narrative instead of looking at the whole picture) but he's obviously from the nicer areas of that city since otherwise he would know there's *a lot* of people who do crime for the sake of it in these areas. Imagine telling people here who are from the gutter themselves that these poor people are pacifists or something. Most are literally the opposite and would more than happy run you up if you're a stranger who let your guard down around them. We don't even have to play this game of he said she said either. The interent exists and we know it's complete bullshit to say the crime doesn't have to do at least something with race. Yes it's those other things too but race is also a major factor and for example some black people from the hood and even some hispanics will make that shit clear to you if you're on their bad side and another race.

We need policies based on truth. If it's very obvious some race is committing vastly more crimes than another and it really is even many of them in better areas. The police should be able to take that into account. I don't really think it would qualify as Racial hate. It would just be speaking the Truth.

I live in an area that may be questionable to some people (but is nowhere near as bad as any of those cities I listed two of those I visited before a few times it is like a nightmare in my mind so yeah that person is from a nice area) but I try my hardest not to interact with people like that and yes I use profiling myself I have an idea of who is good or ok and who is bad.

If the police thought like this it would clean a lot of this up. Look no one is dumb we all know who is questionable or committing crimes.

This could be stopped if we got rid of liberal policies. The police are not dumb either they know what's up but can't do any thing about it or be labeled as racist and lose their job or go to prison.
 
Stormblood said:
throwaway5683465 said:
slyscorpion said:
I agree with you on all points here. Why do think National Socialism doesn't. Also each of the main races has a large area they can live and usually several countries. For whites Europe the USA Canada For Asians China India Malaysia for Blacks all sorts of African countries. For Arabs Iran Iraq Turkey.

You do not agree with what I said. You think people should have a “large area” based on race. That is not the entire world.

Nat Soc totally represses and denies the nomad spirit. Yes, most people aren’t nomads. But if it wasn’t for some people being naturally nomadic, humanity wouldn’t be living in every stretch of the world, nor would there be all the different nation-states or races without the nomadic spirit. The USA would not exist without the nomadic spirit. America used to have no Europeans or white people.

I believe people should have the freedom to live wherever. Even if it is a region outside of their race.

"Large areas" are based on biological, psychological and cultural compatibility. What you are seeking is chaos, not freedom.

White people are incompatible with climates you have in very hot areas like the equator, for example. The farther they live from it, the better. Depending on the exact biological characteristics of a person, there will be an area that is most suitable to them. Climate influences many things, such as nutrition and psychological wellbeing. In other words, by living in the most appropriate area you'll be able to thrive, instead of barely surviving.

Black people should be living in most of Europe, for example. Northern Europe mainly and Central Europe too, as they are ill-suited to it. They will never reach full happiness like that. At the same rate, they could never live appropriately if they are too close to Antarctica. They need a lot of Sun and as direct as it is the closer you go to the Equator. Places like Ireland and Little Britain, for example, do not provide the right characteristics.

I can talk about other races too, new or old, but there is little point in doing so, as the laws of nature do not change.

Human beings are not such a species that can live "anywhere they want". They have required conditions they need to satisfy in order to thrive. You can compromise as much as you want in desperate times, but it's not going to bring you 100% happiness.

Being a nomad is not a natural state of being. Human beings are such that they bond with the land on a spiritual level, forming such strong connections that the more you advance the more it won't sit right with you to live somewhere where your roots cannot be grounded. Being a nomad is an impairment of your muladhara chakra (your root), which will be fixed as you advance, if you truly want to advance.

Sure, there are people who need variety and change, and they can do so by travelling and having holidays, not by doing something as unnatural as relocating every 3/6 months or whatever your plan was. Do you want to grow and uplift yourself, or do you want to barely cope? This is a decision you have to make yourself. Even if there were free borders and free citizenship for everyone, nature will always follow its and only impaired people would change residency on a whim, while the rest will look to settle and put down their roots.

There are people who live only 3-5 months in one country and then travel to a nother one to pay zero taxes. This system does not work if you had been living even only for 1 month in the USA and payed taxes. After that they will size a global tax from you on your income, atleast some crypto guy (the one who bought the digital everyday drawing for around 360 million USD sayed this). He called the USA a tax trap.

Your statement about the muladhara chakra, is impaired if someone would be traveling too much, is it the same as if someone would only work at night and not go on 2300 to bed? Or is it more serious? Can you elaborate more about it?
 
Meteor said:
jrvan said:
Meteor said:
The only reason the law is corrupt is because of jews. ...

After the past millennium or so of xian governments, there's no way I'd give my full trust even to a Gentile leader either. I know xianity came from the jews too, but the point is that even many Gentiles can be tricked too easily into holding false beliefs and enforcing these to unwittingly harm their own people, even despite their good intentions. It's important to remain cautious who you trust.

Perhaps things will be different if the leaders of a nation are enlightened through spiritual advancement. But who judges if they're "enlightened enough", and what level of enlightenment are we talking about here? Even those who have spiritually advanced to an extent, and even those with psychic ability, can still become confused or fall into misunderstandings sometimes.

That's why I believe it's the people of the nation that need to be enlightened as well. I want there to be more people who will stand up for not just what they think is right, but what is truly right, when the government oversteps the boundaries and acts unfairly. People that are willing to protect their own freedom as well as the well-being of their nation.

Even when someday there is a good leader, that does not mean people should give themselves over mindlessly. Things were allowed to go so wrong not just because there were bad leaders who were influenced by our enemies, but also because the people followed them and allowed it. I believe that no leader should be exempt from scrutiny and feedback, as there is always room to learn more.

We can't have a spiritually enlightened society until spiritually enlightened leaders create it. People need a leader to organize them. There's not going to be any spiritual progress among the masses until the jewish leaders are replaced with nonjews + non-shabbos. The jews keep making dams and roadblocks to any progress, and trying their dammed hardest to misdirect the masses and keep them asleep.

If Satan appointed a new dictator/king/emperor like he appointed the Fuhrer, I would follow them without hesitation even if they made mistakes. I said it before, and I'll say it again - I would immediately forsake my American constitutional rights if a new leader appointed by Satan came to power. I would do whatever they dictated.

Even back in ancient Greece, Plato knew the masses were too stupid to lead themselves, and that democracy would lead to inevitable decay and downfall of society. That was back then so never mind now in these times with the current state of the populace. Proper Athenian Democracy is a long, LONG way off. For now we need the best solutions for these times even if it's not perfect. Survival first.

It should also be remembered that perfect utopias of a Golden Age require a high level of development of society, and a high level of development of society requires two things: absence of jews, and wealth. Lots and lots of wealth. And wealth comes from labor. You can't build a perfect wonderland of freedoms overnight where everyone can be happy and follow their dreams. Dreams require money and resources. For now we might have to settle for less-than-perfect leaders if necessary who are hopefully approved by the Gods, and settle for simply keeping our lives and the lives of our descendants and not letting them be slaves.

It won't be very long before it gets much better. The jews as an invasive species are near to the end of their existence, and the new Golden Age of Aquarius is around the corner. It will be fully here in the year 2160. We still have to build it though, and for now we have to do what we can with what we have which isn't much physically. Feel blessed that we even have so many Spiritual Satanists, and in one place able to instantly communicate with each other, and organized by our brilliant High Priest appointed by our Creator himself. Our work is coordinated and blessed by the Gods. We have so much more than we would if the JoS didn't exist. We should feel very lucky, and if a spiritually enlightened dictator working for Satan comes along and temporarily grabs up our freedoms then we should feel even more lucky because it will lead to our survival and liberation from the jewish menace, the breaking of chains on our people. I'd rather have less freedom under a leader of my own race while we build towards more freedom instead of losing ALL of my freedom and being a slave to some disgusting kike.

It seems it's going to happen differently this time around than it did in Germany. I was mostly making a point anyway. After Saturn exits Aquarius, we're going to get our own politicians elected. That's what HPHC said. 2024. The jews don't have long for their enslavement exercise that they're doing right now. This was their big chance, and it's not going as well as they thought it would. Even with Saturn in Aquarius, they're getting this much resistance. Imagine what's going to happen when freedoms aren't restricted. They will be like a dear in headlights with all the spotlight still on them, everyone fully aware of what they did.

Also,
That's why I believe it's the people of the nation that need to be enlightened as well. I want there to be more people who will stand up for not just what they think is right, but what is truly right, when the government oversteps the boundaries and acts unfairly.
Spiritual class.

People that are willing to protect their own freedom as well as the well-being of their nation.
Warrior class, military, and militias.

but the point is that even many Gentiles can be tricked too easily into holding false beliefs and enforcing these to unwittingly harm their own people, even despite their good intentions.

But who judges if they're "enlightened enough", and what level of enlightenment are we talking about here?

The old metric and requirement used to be, at bare minimum, a risen serpent. That was just for the priest class. The Pharaoh/emperor had to be even higher than that usually, and they were trained by their predecessor. A risen serpent allows people to see the Truth.

The regular civilian class is usually the breeders, farmers, merchants, etc. They generate the economy. They keep reincarnating until they are ready to spiritually advance. They're not inherently lesser than the spiritual and warrior classes, and in fact some might argue that the civilian class is the most important. Everything that the spiritual classes and the warrior classes do (in regards to society) is for the sake of the civilian class so they can live healthy happy lives in safety while building towards their dreams. It's like what the Fuhrer famously said: the most precious possession you have is your own people.

I also want to raise this question: how are the ignorant masses going to see through illusions and discern who is a good or bad leader better than the spiritual class? How are they going to know who is lying to them when they don't even have a risen serpent? Most people these days aren't even in tune with their basic level intuition. It's sad and harsh to say, but most people these days are just plain retarded. At least 4 billion people are falling for the Abrahamic religions in one form or another, and then most of the rest are either new age, atheistic, or they worship television (Like Black people thinking Wakanda is real, and that White people stole it from them. Or that Black people gave birth to the White race). Like I said, a spiritually enlightened populace requires a Dharmic society which requires the elimination of the jews, and a lot of time and a lot of money.

And anyway, In the end, practicing spirituality comes from a choice of free will for people. Even doctors keep promoting meditation, and everyone keeps telling people "meditate, meditate, meditate" but how many people actually do it? A minimal amount compared to the overall population. You would have to become even more forceful and tyrannical than the way I'm suggesting in order to achieve the tall order you're asking for. You would pretty much have to point a gun at people in their home while forcing them onto a yoga mat, and telling them that their life depends on them practicing spirituality. We just can't have a spiritually enlightened population right now. It's not feasible, it's not practical, it's not doable. There's no way to achieve it right now especially with the jews in the way. Everything depends on the spiritual class and the will of the Gods right now. I don't see the civilians rising up in revolt with an awakened third eye or anything like that. The masses need guidance. They need someone to take control and take charge, and be like "Okay everyone, we're going in this direction now because we need to save our race from extinction. Apparently most of you don't want to do that, but I'm not going to allow you all to be freaking dodo birds."
 
slyscorpion said:
Stormblood said:
throwaway5683465 said:
How is this possible under authoritarianism? Especially when labor is being forced by a central government/authority, as other members in this thread confirmed. People need freedom to figure out who they are and their place in society.

This is something that, in nature, normally happens when you're a teenager. After that, you should have already overcome that phase and find your place in life. Unfortunately, currently the great majority of the population is experiencing developmental delays. Just think of how many people believe their 20s is too early to be married, when it's actually the right natural timing.

These delays happen because of mass brainwashing by the enemy and because in many country they set things up in a way that either there isn't enough opportunity for you to discover things in timely fashion or such opportunities are locked away being walls such as status, prestige, expectations, networking, and others.

This freedom was available in NS Germany and has always been available in our golden age civilisations, when people were in tune with the rhythms of nature. Nature is not your enemy. Sure, it may have laws that support you and laws that hinder you, but working with supporting laws will always allow you to rise, while laws that hinder you are there to show how to care of yourself and that what you're doing may be unwise, foolish or even immature and certainly not based on a positive part of yourself, but on a part of yourself that is nothing but dross.

Nature is impersonal. Not a entity deciding what's right and what's wrong. The only one responsible when things go wrong is you. Either because you're unwise, foolish, immature, or just weak and lack awareness. The things that are outside your control can be brought under control by using group tactics.

Freedom without awareness of consequences is nothing but chaos.

You don't want to work? So, how do you get food, water, clothes, etc? Do you want to enslave other people to work their ass to get those things for free so you can play videogames all day while you 'figure things out'? That's what you are asking for. So, where is this freedom you speak of? If people are working for you as slaves while you are 'free', people aren't free though. What happens if farmers don't go to work because 'people shouldn't be forced to work'? Nobody eats. Very simple. And everyone dies.

Think about things a bit more deeply, will you?

You are completely assuming only based upon things that you know. Who is to say that any of the stuff today is valid at all so far as the way a civilization should be. I think the whole thing needs to be rewritten by a bunch of people who know better.

These not assumptions. There are growth stages fully outlined if one knows enough about astrology and other spiritual science. All one needs is to meditate and develop a close relationship with nature and the Gods, instead of thinking that anything that comes to mind is legitimate just because they did one meditation that day, like many people seem to do in this path when it comes to many things.

Some wrong patterns of behaviour, for example, stick because people never purify themselves and never analyse their lives in due depth to see if those patterns serve them well or are completely alien or nefarious. That's how, for example, some people end up magnifying these and leaving the JoS simply because the clergy or some other advanced member exposes these patterns. They may even go as far as organising their own groups or cults to perpetuate these lower things or simply go insane from them.

One thing that is certain is that children are supposed to grow into their own as soon as possible upon reaching adult age, and that does not happen by acting like parasites to your parents, draining their financial and other resources, without contributing to uplifting your family/clan in any way, shape or form. SS, in particular, have spiritual tools to grow in a faster, more natural way compared to NPCs, and turn the odds around when there are forces working against them. That is, however, if they are willing and motivated to act so and hold themselves to SS standards, instead of copying NPCs in their decadent behaviours.
 
Stormblood said:
slyscorpion said:
Stormblood said:
This is something that, in nature, normally happens when you're a teenager. After that, you should have already overcome that phase and find your place in life. Unfortunately, currently the great majority of the population is experiencing developmental delays. Just think of how many people believe their 20s is too early to be married, when it's actually the right natural timing.

These delays happen because of mass brainwashing by the enemy and because in many country they set things up in a way that either there isn't enough opportunity for you to discover things in timely fashion or such opportunities are locked away being walls such as status, prestige, expectations, networking, and others.

This freedom was available in NS Germany and has always been available in our golden age civilisations, when people were in tune with the rhythms of nature. Nature is not your enemy. Sure, it may have laws that support you and laws that hinder you, but working with supporting laws will always allow you to rise, while laws that hinder you are there to show how to care of yourself and that what you're doing may be unwise, foolish or even immature and certainly not based on a positive part of yourself, but on a part of yourself that is nothing but dross.

Nature is impersonal. Not a entity deciding what's right and what's wrong. The only one responsible when things go wrong is you. Either because you're unwise, foolish, immature, or just weak and lack awareness. The things that are outside your control can be brought under control by using group tactics.

Freedom without awareness of consequences is nothing but chaos.

You don't want to work? So, how do you get food, water, clothes, etc? Do you want to enslave other people to work their ass to get those things for free so you can play videogames all day while you 'figure things out'? That's what you are asking for. So, where is this freedom you speak of? If people are working for you as slaves while you are 'free', people aren't free though. What happens if farmers don't go to work because 'people shouldn't be forced to work'? Nobody eats. Very simple. And everyone dies.

Think about things a bit more deeply, will you?

You are completely assuming only based upon things that you know. Who is to say that any of the stuff today is valid at all so far as the way a civilization should be. I think the whole thing needs to be rewritten by a bunch of people who know better.

These not assumptions. There are growth stages fully outlined if one knows enough about astrology and other spiritual science. All one needs is to meditate and develop a close relationship with nature and the Gods, instead of thinking that anything that comes to mind is legitimate just because they did one meditation that day, like many people seem to do in this path when it comes to many things.

Some wrong patterns of behaviour, for example, stick because people never purify themselves and never analyse their lives in due depth to see if those patterns serve them well or are completely alien or nefarious. That's how, for example, some people end up magnifying these and leaving the JoS simply because the clergy or some other advanced member exposes these patterns. They may even go as far as organising their own groups or cults to perpetuate these lower things or simply go insane from them.

One thing that is certain is that children are supposed to grow into their own as soon as possible upon reaching adult age, and that does not happen by acting like parasites to your parents, draining their financial and other resources, without contributing to uplifting your family/clan in any way, shape or form. SS, in particular, have spiritual tools to grow in a faster, more natural way compared to NPCs, and turn the odds around when there are forces working against them. That is, however, if they are willing and motivated to act so and hold themselves to SS standards, instead of copying NPCs in their decadent behaviours.

I have nothing against you personally I agree with you in ideal world yes. However in today's world no most the time you want to be independent this leads to being a slave. I can actually see why some of these npcs act the way they do. I would say with the situation the world is in its not unethical.

I think like a business person myself. Everything is a means to an end. The goal is always to have the most happy and most easy life possible.

I actually know you are trying to stick up for ancient values just like I am. I like that. So I don't want you to think I am critical of you.

Ok what is more wrong. The way a lot of people in the world live right now or being a slave to big Jew working 80 hours just to barley survive not having any real opportunities to actually be successful in life and don't tell a bunch of people that they are supposed to go to an education institution that is Marxist and go into debt to have about the same results as people that didn't.

I don't really greatly fault either side here. I think it's a dumb and bad situation the world is in.

The only way out is to think like a businessman and make your own money work for yourself. I don't really act much like a parasite to anyone myself nor do I want to lower myself that way very much. However there is a part of me that says this is the way to be rebel against the system and better than the alternative so go for it.
 
SouthernWhiteGentile said:
throwaway5683465 said:
How is nature a benevolent dictator? If anything, nature is a BRUTAL dictator.

Natural law is you die before age 30. Natural law is you die if you get an injury or illness. Natural law is you die if it gets too hot or too cold. Natural law is there are no man-made laws, structures, or societies (aka chaos).

It is a fallacy to think that just because something is natural that it is good. Nobody here blindly follows natural law because not all natural laws are good! Some are good, and the bad ones we tend to circumvent using technology.
You’re a fucking idiot. It’s a fallacy to think that natural law means society has to be some anarcho-primitivist dump. You are very intellectually dishonest by purposefully refusing to understand and misconstruing what everyone has been telling you. I only see a subverter in you. You would use your main account if you weren’t such a rat.

You're jumping the gun here. And it's hilarious that you talk about intellectual dishonesty, willful ignorance, and deliberate misinterpretation because that's all you engage in most of the time.

Now you're attacking some poor guy just because you were so terribly defaced recently, and managed to embarrass yourself like never before, and now you want to regain some pride by trying to rip it from others. The guy is just confused, and you have no proof that he's a subversive rat.

And by your own admission you don't even meditate, and you consider spiritual hygiene and spirituality in general a "chore" so no one should be listening to you about anything, especially not your totally amazing intuition that can detect subversion better than the High Priest. Yet you act like you're one of the top brass on the forums, and like your word has this incredibly compelling weight to it and everyone should listen to you. Who is the real rat? You were wrong about me, and you may very well be wrong about this person too. How about you go better yourself and clean your freaking soul for once instead of bitching at other people. You don't know best even if you think you do.
 
Stormblood said:
slyscorpion said:
Stormblood said:
This is something that, in nature, normally happens when you're a teenager. After that, you should have already overcome that phase and find your place in life. Unfortunately, currently the great majority of the population is experiencing developmental delays. Just think of how many people believe their 20s is too early to be married, when it's actually the right natural timing.

These delays happen because of mass brainwashing by the enemy and because in many country they set things up in a way that either there isn't enough opportunity for you to discover things in timely fashion or such opportunities are locked away being walls such as status, prestige, expectations, networking, and others.

This freedom was available in NS Germany and has always been available in our golden age civilisations, when people were in tune with the rhythms of nature. Nature is not your enemy. Sure, it may have laws that support you and laws that hinder you, but working with supporting laws will always allow you to rise, while laws that hinder you are there to show how to care of yourself and that what you're doing may be unwise, foolish or even immature and certainly not based on a positive part of yourself, but on a part of yourself that is nothing but dross.

Nature is impersonal. Not a entity deciding what's right and what's wrong. The only one responsible when things go wrong is you. Either because you're unwise, foolish, immature, or just weak and lack awareness. The things that are outside your control can be brought under control by using group tactics.

Freedom without awareness of consequences is nothing but chaos.

You don't want to work? So, how do you get food, water, clothes, etc? Do you want to enslave other people to work their ass to get those things for free so you can play videogames all day while you 'figure things out'? That's what you are asking for. So, where is this freedom you speak of? If people are working for you as slaves while you are 'free', people aren't free though. What happens if farmers don't go to work because 'people shouldn't be forced to work'? Nobody eats. Very simple. And everyone dies.

Think about things a bit more deeply, will you?

You are completely assuming only based upon things that you know. Who is to say that any of the stuff today is valid at all so far as the way a civilization should be. I think the whole thing needs to be rewritten by a bunch of people who know better.

These not assumptions. There are growth stages fully outlined if one knows enough about astrology and other spiritual science. All one needs is to meditate and develop a close relationship with nature and the Gods, instead of thinking that anything that comes to mind is legitimate just because they did one meditation that day, like many people seem to do in this path when it comes to many things.

Some wrong patterns of behaviour, for example, stick because people never purify themselves and never analyse their lives in due depth to see if those patterns serve them well or are completely alien or nefarious. That's how, for example, some people end up magnifying these and leaving the JoS simply because the clergy or some other advanced member exposes these patterns. They may even go as far as organising their own groups or cults to perpetuate these lower things or simply go insane from them.

One thing that is certain is that children are supposed to grow into their own as soon as possible upon reaching adult age, and that does not happen by acting like parasites to your parents, draining their financial and other resources, without contributing to uplifting your family/clan in any way, shape or form. SS, in particular, have spiritual tools to grow in a faster, more natural way compared to NPCs, and turn the odds around when there are forces working against them. That is, however, if they are willing and motivated to act so and hold themselves to SS standards, instead of copying NPCs in their decadent behaviours.

Education is of paramount importance but there are also times of growth and maturity. We have a life expectancy of sixty years and twenty years seems like an eternity to us.

I say this because from my observation of young people aged sixteen to eighteen, they have little understanding. Add to this a very bad upbringing and it will be the case, a blind man leading another blind man or better in this case, a child teaching another child.

Many parents are real idiots. They do not want to learn, study and update themselves and so what and how could they teach their children about life? They expect their children to learn things by themselves, this can be done through experience and personal study but it takes a lot of time and young people can also get into trouble because of this. In this situation, the children will understand things when they are twenty-five or thirty years old and in the worst cases when they are fifty.
 
Master said:
Stormblood said:
slyscorpion said:
You are completely assuming only based upon things that you know. Who is to say that any of the stuff today is valid at all so far as the way a civilization should be. I think the whole thing needs to be rewritten by a bunch of people who know better.

These not assumptions. There are growth stages fully outlined if one knows enough about astrology and other spiritual science. All one needs is to meditate and develop a close relationship with nature and the Gods, instead of thinking that anything that comes to mind is legitimate just because they did one meditation that day, like many people seem to do in this path when it comes to many things.

Some wrong patterns of behaviour, for example, stick because people never purify themselves and never analyse their lives in due depth to see if those patterns serve them well or are completely alien or nefarious. That's how, for example, some people end up magnifying these and leaving the JoS simply because the clergy or some other advanced member exposes these patterns. They may even go as far as organising their own groups or cults to perpetuate these lower things or simply go insane from them.

One thing that is certain is that children are supposed to grow into their own as soon as possible upon reaching adult age, and that does not happen by acting like parasites to your parents, draining their financial and other resources, without contributing to uplifting your family/clan in any way, shape or form. SS, in particular, have spiritual tools to grow in a faster, more natural way compared to NPCs, and turn the odds around when there are forces working against them. That is, however, if they are willing and motivated to act so and hold themselves to SS standards, instead of copying NPCs in their decadent behaviours.

Education is of paramount importance but there are also times of growth and maturity. We have a life expectancy of sixty years and twenty years seems like an eternity to us.

I say this because from my observation of young people aged sixteen to eighteen, they have little understanding. Add to this a very bad upbringing and it will be the case, a blind man leading another blind man or better in this case, a child teaching another child.

Many parents are real idiots. They do not want to learn, study and update themselves and so what and how could they teach their children about life? They expect their children to learn things by themselves, this can be done through experience and personal study but it takes a lot of time and young people can also get into trouble because of this. In this situation, the children will understand things when they are twenty-five or thirty years old and in the worst cases when they are fifty.

That's why I mentioned developmental delays. The enemy has brought this on, where partying, watching tv and playing videogames is more important than self-discovery and education.
 
slyscorpion said:
Stormblood said:
slyscorpion said:
You are completely assuming only based upon things that you know. Who is to say that any of the stuff today is valid at all so far as the way a civilization should be. I think the whole thing needs to be rewritten by a bunch of people who know better.

These not assumptions. There are growth stages fully outlined if one knows enough about astrology and other spiritual science. All one needs is to meditate and develop a close relationship with nature and the Gods, instead of thinking that anything that comes to mind is legitimate just because they did one meditation that day, like many people seem to do in this path when it comes to many things.

Some wrong patterns of behaviour, for example, stick because people never purify themselves and never analyse their lives in due depth to see if those patterns serve them well or are completely alien or nefarious. That's how, for example, some people end up magnifying these and leaving the JoS simply because the clergy or some other advanced member exposes these patterns. They may even go as far as organising their own groups or cults to perpetuate these lower things or simply go insane from them.

One thing that is certain is that children are supposed to grow into their own as soon as possible upon reaching adult age, and that does not happen by acting like parasites to your parents, draining their financial and other resources, without contributing to uplifting your family/clan in any way, shape or form. SS, in particular, have spiritual tools to grow in a faster, more natural way compared to NPCs, and turn the odds around when there are forces working against them. That is, however, if they are willing and motivated to act so and hold themselves to SS standards, instead of copying NPCs in their decadent behaviours.

I have nothing against you personally I agree with you in ideal world yes. However in today's world no most the time you want to be independent this leads to being a slave. I can actually see why some of these npcs act the way they do. I would say with the situation the world is in its not unethical.

I think like a business person myself. Everything is a means to an end. The goal is always to have the most happy and most easy life possible.

I actually know you are trying to stick up for ancient values just like I am. I like that. So I don't want you to think I am critical of you.

Ok what is more wrong. The way a lot of people in the world live right now or being a slave to big Jew working 80 hours just to barley survive not having any real opportunities to actually be successful in life and don't tell a bunch of people that they are supposed to go to an education institution that is Marxist and go into debt to have about the same results as people that didn't.

I don't really greatly fault either side here. I think it's a dumb and bad situation the world is in.

The only way out is to think like a businessman and make your own money work for yourself. I don't really act much like a parasite to anyone myself nor do I want to lower myself that way very much. However there is a part of me that says this is the way to be rebel against the system and better than the alternative so go for it.

I agree that the working week is excessively long nowadays and sometimes doesn't even get you minimum wage, let alone living wage. However, a few people have the luck to be in love with their careers (like it should be in all cases, really) and for people like that it doesn't really matter how long they work. I worked 80 to 100+ hours a week at a job and I never felt stressed by it or like I was overextending myself. That was in the past and I wish I could do the same again, and that most people had the same luck in regards to it, only for it to last for a lifetime.

The biggest problem I see is people working 9-5 jobs, getting home and the only thing they care about is partying, getting drunk, watching netflix, playing videogames, and doing other empty activities, instead of developing themselves and having recreational activities that weren't completely jewed and dead.

Another thing to note is how too many people that complain about 'not having money' make 'every mistake in the book' in spending what they have: take-away, fast food, alcohol, tobacco, drugs, sodas, unnecessary Ubers/taxis, new clothes every other minute, subscriptions to stuff they don't use and that it's useless, coffee (from shops like Starbucks, instead of making it at home or using the coffee machine at work)...

So, yeah, there's both sides of the coin and how having a decadent lifestyle is become the norm so much that is expected and demanded. In other words, we have a slave system where people keep acting like slaves and low-tier parasites in more way than once.

I think we don't really disagree. We just look at it from partially different perspectives and have issues communicating it. That's all.
 
Stormblood said:
slyscorpion said:
Stormblood said:
These not assumptions. There are growth stages fully outlined if one knows enough about astrology and other spiritual science. All one needs is to meditate and develop a close relationship with nature and the Gods, instead of thinking that anything that comes to mind is legitimate just because they did one meditation that day, like many people seem to do in this path when it comes to many things.

Some wrong patterns of behaviour, for example, stick because people never purify themselves and never analyse their lives in due depth to see if those patterns serve them well or are completely alien or nefarious. That's how, for example, some people end up magnifying these and leaving the JoS simply because the clergy or some other advanced member exposes these patterns. They may even go as far as organising their own groups or cults to perpetuate these lower things or simply go insane from them.

One thing that is certain is that children are supposed to grow into their own as soon as possible upon reaching adult age, and that does not happen by acting like parasites to your parents, draining their financial and other resources, without contributing to uplifting your family/clan in any way, shape or form. SS, in particular, have spiritual tools to grow in a faster, more natural way compared to NPCs, and turn the odds around when there are forces working against them. That is, however, if they are willing and motivated to act so and hold themselves to SS standards, instead of copying NPCs in their decadent behaviours.

I have nothing against you personally I agree with you in ideal world yes. However in today's world no most the time you want to be independent this leads to being a slave. I can actually see why some of these npcs act the way they do. I would say with the situation the world is in its not unethical.

I think like a business person myself. Everything is a means to an end. The goal is always to have the most happy and most easy life possible.

I actually know you are trying to stick up for ancient values just like I am. I like that. So I don't want you to think I am critical of you.

Ok what is more wrong. The way a lot of people in the world live right now or being a slave to big Jew working 80 hours just to barley survive not having any real opportunities to actually be successful in life and don't tell a bunch of people that they are supposed to go to an education institution that is Marxist and go into debt to have about the same results as people that didn't.

I don't really greatly fault either side here. I think it's a dumb and bad situation the world is in.

The only way out is to think like a businessman and make your own money work for yourself. I don't really act much like a parasite to anyone myself nor do I want to lower myself that way very much. However there is a part of me that says this is the way to be rebel against the system and better than the alternative so go for it.

I agree that the working week is excessively long nowadays and sometimes doesn't even get you minimum wage, let alone living wage. However, a few people have the luck to be in love with their careers (like it should be in all cases, really) and for people like that it doesn't really matter how long they work. I worked 80 to 100+ hours a week at a job and I never felt stressed by it or like I was overextending myself. That was in the past and I wish I could do the same again, and that most people had the same luck in regards to it, only for it to last for a lifetime.

The biggest problem I see is people working 9-5 jobs, getting home and the only thing they care about is partying, getting drunk, watching netflix, playing videogames, and doing other empty activities, instead of developing themselves and having recreational activities that weren't completely jewed and dead.

Another thing to note is how too many people that complain about 'not having money' make 'every mistake in the book' in spending what they have: take-away, fast food, alcohol, tobacco, drugs, sodas, unnecessary Ubers/taxis, new clothes every other minute, subscriptions to stuff they don't use and that it's useless, coffee (from shops like Starbucks, instead of making it at home or using the coffee machine at work)...

So, yeah, there's both sides of the coin and how having a decadent lifestyle is become the norm so much that is expected and demanded. In other words, we have a slave system where people keep acting like slaves and low-tier parasites in more way than once.

I think we don't really disagree. We just look at it from partially different perspectives and have issues communicating it. That's all.

Out of control advertising agencies, and hands-off parenting primarily. That's my opinion. It comes back to parents of the past few decades having to slave away at work just to feed and house their families, and not being able to focus on their child's development as much as they may have wanted. Which comes back to jews stealing our wealth and creating an artificial state of enforced poverty.

Another big part of the problem is that boomers have sold off their generational inheritance to live it up YOLO style, and screw their descendants and bloodline. Then they try to make excuses and say that their kids and grandkids are just "lazy" and lack work ethic. They sold us out. They sold our inheritance. They let television and marxist schoolteachers raise their kids. They left us with nothing. How many White families inherit property anymore? It used to be the case. Now there's a culture of selling your kids into debt just so they can get a degree and a slave job so they can pay the rent, and never own their own home and never pass a home down to their own kids. And hardly anyone has life skills to pass down anymore either.

Soon White people might not even be able to get mortgages either if they aren't vaccinated. We need our land back. We need max Othal, and we need it yesterday. White people need their own homeland again.

So yeah I see both sides of this as well. Kids in their twenties don't have a chance. They need shelter, and in a lot of cases their parents are footing the bill. It's such a crappy scenario, and it's all the jews' fault. They get fat on the fruits of our peoples' labor while we all suffer in poverty. Even the upper middle class looks impoverished compared to the jews.
 
Stormblood said:
slyscorpion said:
Stormblood said:
These not assumptions. There are growth stages fully outlined if one knows enough about astrology and other spiritual science. All one needs is to meditate and develop a close relationship with nature and the Gods, instead of thinking that anything that comes to mind is legitimate just because they did one meditation that day, like many people seem to do in this path when it comes to many things.

Some wrong patterns of behaviour, for example, stick because people never purify themselves and never analyse their lives in due depth to see if those patterns serve them well or are completely alien or nefarious. That's how, for example, some people end up magnifying these and leaving the JoS simply because the clergy or some other advanced member exposes these patterns. They may even go as far as organising their own groups or cults to perpetuate these lower things or simply go insane from them.

One thing that is certain is that children are supposed to grow into their own as soon as possible upon reaching adult age, and that does not happen by acting like parasites to your parents, draining their financial and other resources, without contributing to uplifting your family/clan in any way, shape or form. SS, in particular, have spiritual tools to grow in a faster, more natural way compared to NPCs, and turn the odds around when there are forces working against them. That is, however, if they are willing and motivated to act so and hold themselves to SS standards, instead of copying NPCs in their decadent behaviours.

I have nothing against you personally I agree with you in ideal world yes. However in today's world no most the time you want to be independent this leads to being a slave. I can actually see why some of these npcs act the way they do. I would say with the situation the world is in its not unethical.

I think like a business person myself. Everything is a means to an end. The goal is always to have the most happy and most easy life possible.

I actually know you are trying to stick up for ancient values just like I am. I like that. So I don't want you to think I am critical of you.

Ok what is more wrong. The way a lot of people in the world live right now or being a slave to big Jew working 80 hours just to barley survive not having any real opportunities to actually be successful in life and don't tell a bunch of people that they are supposed to go to an education institution that is Marxist and go into debt to have about the same results as people that didn't.

I don't really greatly fault either side here. I think it's a dumb and bad situation the world is in.

The only way out is to think like a businessman and make your own money work for yourself. I don't really act much like a parasite to anyone myself nor do I want to lower myself that way very much. However there is a part of me that says this is the way to be rebel against the system and better than the alternative so go for it.

I agree that the working week is excessively long nowadays and sometimes doesn't even get you minimum wage, let alone living wage. However, a few people have the luck to be in love with their careers (like it should be in all cases, really) and for people like that it doesn't really matter how long they work. I worked 80 to 100+ hours a week at a job and I never felt stressed by it or like I was overextending myself. That was in the past and I wish I could do the same again, and that most people had the same luck in regards to it, only for it to last for a lifetime.

The biggest problem I see is people working 9-5 jobs, getting home and the only thing they care about is partying, getting drunk, watching netflix, playing videogames, and doing other empty activities, instead of developing themselves and having recreational activities that weren't completely jewed and dead.

Another thing to note is how too many people that complain about 'not having money' make 'every mistake in the book' in spending what they have: take-away, fast food, alcohol, tobacco, drugs, sodas, unnecessary Ubers/taxis, new clothes every other minute, subscriptions to stuff they don't use and that it's useless, coffee (from shops like Starbucks, instead of making it at home or using the coffee machine at work)...

So, yeah, there's both sides of the coin and how having a decadent lifestyle is become the norm so much that is expected and demanded. In other words, we have a slave system where people keep acting like slaves and low-tier parasites in more way than once.

I think we don't really disagree. We just look at it from partially different perspectives and have issues communicating it. That's all.

If we want to fix one side in this we have to fix the other I think to be honest cause the two are related. Some people just after awhile give up after not being much rewarded for their efforts or don't have motivation to begin with hence act like parasites. Then on the other hand those that are successful and have plenty don't have time for important things often like family and advancement or even to research stuff. You can bet more would find us if they had time. It takes a lot of study to figure out the truth about the system.

There really isn't much we can do about any of this keeping the Jews chosen idea of an economy in place because we would collapse it.

So why not do something like in Nazi Germany and just rewrite the system to be more fair. I actually like what I read a lot and I am not even sure that is the full real Intended way it was supposed to work as it was mostly under a time of war.
 
throwaway5683465 said:
Despite the openness with which I approached Nat Soc, I am still vehemently opposed to it on a soul level. It just makes my soul cry out in opposition too much. I am fully opposed to ORION. I refuse to serve others just because they are my race. I am fundamentally opposed to being confined in my career choices (this means being able to do jobs that might not be considered ‘careers’ yet) and even just forcing people in general to work. I am also opposed to being forced and confined to live in a geography based on my race.

I really tried to have an open mind, but NS genuinely makes my soul cry out in pain. I tried to be open, but it fundamentally goes against who I am at my core.

I’ve had a great experience spiritually with Satan and his Gods. But NS is claimed here as the politics of Satan himself, and everyone here is obsessed with NS and Hitler. I really just can’t stomach it.

NS and Hitler seem to be of the utmost importance to SS that I feel totally out of place and even like I am disrespecting and harming the group due to my extreme opposition to NS and Hitler.

Should I leave?



Hello you shouldn't. I understand you feelings. When I saw it is first I afraid really... About Hitler and Nazic after I had doubts and again and again I think that it not my I should leave because it Is other, it is hard for understand. What can I say to you please don't hurry up. Yeah it's difficult but over time it will be okay, you just start understand everything right and can see that your past doubts and fears about Hitler and other it's nothing it just what was in your past before Satsn. Everything change. And you if can't understand something now you will can understand it future. Because when you do meditation, work with energy so... You mind you thinks change. I had problem with jews with Hitler too but you know it's not problem.Of course you can't to love the person who well... Killed and according to scary farytales he is monster who wanted blood and death... I try to find out it and you know when you read when you study so much informaton you see the differences in scary facts and stories. For example about jews it is write that was killed 60000 in gas camera... When I find more informaton I find out that gas camera just NOT EXIST it just scary story its LIE and LIE like this so much now. That right... Just continue do meditations if you have fear or doubts try to study it don't be afraid get you fear and see in his eyes I mean figure it out and you will see. Don't tell something like "Should I leave? If I don't feel yourself like Satanist" better ask "Why I should leave?" because I think about this, this... And destroy this points start to find truth. We are here because we live in BIG LIE now you task to find out truth. So don't leave your fears and doubts lost this chance no live in this fear ever.
 
jrvan said:
Stormblood said:
slyscorpion said:
I have nothing against you personally I agree with you in ideal world yes. However in today's world no most the time you want to be independent this leads to being a slave. I can actually see why some of these npcs act the way they do. I would say with the situation the world is in its not unethical.

I think like a business person myself. Everything is a means to an end. The goal is always to have the most happy and most easy life possible.

I actually know you are trying to stick up for ancient values just like I am. I like that. So I don't want you to think I am critical of you.

Ok what is more wrong. The way a lot of people in the world live right now or being a slave to big Jew working 80 hours just to barley survive not having any real opportunities to actually be successful in life and don't tell a bunch of people that they are supposed to go to an education institution that is Marxist and go into debt to have about the same results as people that didn't.

I don't really greatly fault either side here. I think it's a dumb and bad situation the world is in.

The only way out is to think like a businessman and make your own money work for yourself. I don't really act much like a parasite to anyone myself nor do I want to lower myself that way very much. However there is a part of me that says this is the way to be rebel against the system and better than the alternative so go for it.

I agree that the working week is excessively long nowadays and sometimes doesn't even get you minimum wage, let alone living wage. However, a few people have the luck to be in love with their careers (like it should be in all cases, really) and for people like that it doesn't really matter how long they work. I worked 80 to 100+ hours a week at a job and I never felt stressed by it or like I was overextending myself. That was in the past and I wish I could do the same again, and that most people had the same luck in regards to it, only for it to last for a lifetime.

The biggest problem I see is people working 9-5 jobs, getting home and the only thing they care about is partying, getting drunk, watching netflix, playing videogames, and doing other empty activities, instead of developing themselves and having recreational activities that weren't completely jewed and dead.

Another thing to note is how too many people that complain about 'not having money' make 'every mistake in the book' in spending what they have: take-away, fast food, alcohol, tobacco, drugs, sodas, unnecessary Ubers/taxis, new clothes every other minute, subscriptions to stuff they don't use and that it's useless, coffee (from shops like Starbucks, instead of making it at home or using the coffee machine at work)...

So, yeah, there's both sides of the coin and how having a decadent lifestyle is become the norm so much that is expected and demanded. In other words, we have a slave system where people keep acting like slaves and low-tier parasites in more way than once.

I think we don't really disagree. We just look at it from partially different perspectives and have issues communicating it. That's all.

Out of control advertising agencies, and hands-off parenting primarily. That's my opinion. It comes back to parents of the past few decades having to slave away at work just to feed and house their families, and not being able to focus on their child's development as much as they may have wanted. Which comes back to jews stealing our wealth and creating an artificial state of enforced poverty.

Another big part of the problem is that boomers have sold off their generational inheritance to live it up YOLO style, and screw their descendants and bloodline. Then they try to make excuses and say that their kids and grandkids are just "lazy" and lack work ethic. They sold us out. They sold our inheritance. They let television and marxist schoolteachers raise their kids. They left us with nothing. How many White families inherit property anymore? It used to be the case. Now there's a culture of selling your kids into debt just so they can get a degree and a slave job so they can pay the rent, and never own their own home and never pass a home down to their own kids. And hardly anyone has life skills to pass down anymore either.

Soon White people might not even be able to get mortgages either if they aren't vaccinated. We need our land back. We need max Othal, and we need it yesterday. White people need their own homeland again.

So yeah I see both sides of this as well. Kids in their twenties don't have a chance. They need shelter, and in a lot of cases their parents are footing the bill. It's such a crappy scenario, and it's all the jews' fault. They get fat on the fruits of our peoples' labor while we all suffer in poverty. Even the upper middle class looks impoverished compared to the jews.

Yes and it kind of is hard to be motivated for a majority of young people most likely without much reward for it. You said all my talking points I literally complain to someone about this stuff often both in online and offline life. People would get even more mad about all this if they looked up the economic situation just a few generations ago.

I am glad some people understand this. Most young people don't really have a chance. Myself personally maybe I do maybe I don't. It seems like if workings and being intelligent was going to work it would already.

The only thing that is great is Uranus is in Taurus there is a chance this may suddenly be reversed or fixed somehow or turned on its head or something in the next few years.

I mean personally myself I think maybe economic collapse may be the only way to fix this.

There would be some creative ways to game this system which most outside of the Jews would never think of. But that is assuming your able to get a good income or help from someone first which most are not sadly.
 
jrvan said:
Out of control advertising agencies, and hands-off parenting primarily. That's my opinion. It comes back to parents of the past few decades having to slave away at work just to feed and house their families, and not being able to focus on their child's development as much as they may have wanted. Which comes back to jews stealing our wealth and creating an artificial state of enforced poverty.

Another big part of the problem is that boomers have sold off their generational inheritance to live it up YOLO style, and screw their descendants and bloodline. Then they try to make excuses and say that their kids and grandkids are just "lazy" and lack work ethic. They sold us out. They sold our inheritance. They let television and marxist schoolteachers raise their kids. They left us with nothing. How many White families inherit property anymore? It used to be the case. Now there's a culture of selling your kids into debt just so they can get a degree and a slave job so they can pay the rent, and never own their own home and never pass a home down to their own kids. And hardly anyone has life skills to pass down anymore either.

Soon White people might not even be able to get mortgages either if they aren't vaccinated. We need our land back. We need max Othal, and we need it yesterday. White people need their own homeland again.

So yeah I see both sides of this as well. Kids in their twenties don't have a chance. They need shelter, and in a lot of cases their parents are footing the bill. It's such a crappy scenario, and it's all the jews' fault. They get fat on the fruits of our peoples' labor while we all suffer in poverty. Even the upper middle class looks impoverished compared to the jews.

There comes a point in time when one has to consider the individual soul as well. If one is weak-minded, they will have always have slave mentality. In this world or the SS world. They will just trade 'going with the flow' with the enemy things, to 'going with the flow' with the SS things. But a slave mentality doesn't breed motivation or discipline. Only half-baked result. Only the strong will rise. But it's not a concern anymore. At least we give them a chance, unlike the enemy.
 
Stormblood said:
jrvan said:
Out of control advertising agencies, and hands-off parenting primarily. That's my opinion. It comes back to parents of the past few decades having to slave away at work just to feed and house their families, and not being able to focus on their child's development as much as they may have wanted. Which comes back to jews stealing our wealth and creating an artificial state of enforced poverty.

Another big part of the problem is that boomers have sold off their generational inheritance to live it up YOLO style, and screw their descendants and bloodline. Then they try to make excuses and say that their kids and grandkids are just "lazy" and lack work ethic. They sold us out. They sold our inheritance. They let television and marxist schoolteachers raise their kids. They left us with nothing. How many White families inherit property anymore? It used to be the case. Now there's a culture of selling your kids into debt just so they can get a degree and a slave job so they can pay the rent, and never own their own home and never pass a home down to their own kids. And hardly anyone has life skills to pass down anymore either.

Soon White people might not even be able to get mortgages either if they aren't vaccinated. We need our land back. We need max Othal, and we need it yesterday. White people need their own homeland again.

So yeah I see both sides of this as well. Kids in their twenties don't have a chance. They need shelter, and in a lot of cases their parents are footing the bill. It's such a crappy scenario, and it's all the jews' fault. They get fat on the fruits of our peoples' labor while we all suffer in poverty. Even the upper middle class looks impoverished compared to the jews.

There comes a point in time when one has to consider the individual soul as well. If one is weak-minded, they will have always have slave mentality. In this world or the SS world. They will just trade 'going with the flow' with the enemy things, to 'going with the flow' with the SS things. But a slave mentality doesn't breed motivation or discipline. Only half-baked result. Only the strong will rise. But it's not a concern anymore. At least we give them a chance, unlike the enemy.

You're definitely right. There's the external obstacles, but there's also the inner problems that need to be overcome in a lot of people. If there's no will to take action then they could fail even if the monopoly board was changed to candy land. The boomers aren't entirely wrong about a lot of modern youths being lazy shits, but the boomers are still hypocrites. The boomers had the work ethic when it WAS candy land. They're much bigger ingrates in my opinion, and if they realized how hard it is for some people to get opportunities in this climate then they'd be singing a different tune. Not everyone is completely devoid of opportunities, but my heart aches for those who are. That number keeps growing among Whites.

This is my experience in America. I'm not sure how it is in Europe.
 
Stormblood said:
throwaway5683465 said:
slyscorpion said:
I agree with you on all points here. Why do think National Socialism doesn't. Also each of the main races has a large area they can live and usually several countries. For whites Europe the USA Canada For Asians China India Malaysia for Blacks all sorts of African countries. For Arabs Iran Iraq Turkey.

You do not agree with what I said. You think people should have a “large area” based on race. That is not the entire world.

Nat Soc totally represses and denies the nomad spirit. Yes, most people aren’t nomads. But if it wasn’t for some people being naturally nomadic, humanity wouldn’t be living in every stretch of the world, nor would there be all the different nation-states or races without the nomadic spirit. The USA would not exist without the nomadic spirit. America used to have no Europeans or white people.

I believe people should have the freedom to live wherever. Even if it is a region outside of their race.

"Large areas" are based on biological, psychological and cultural compatibility. What you are seeking is chaos, not freedom.

White people are incompatible with climates you have in very hot areas like the equator, for example. The farther they live from it, the better. Depending on the exact biological characteristics of a person, there will be an area that is most suitable to them. Climate influences many things, such as nutrition and psychological wellbeing. In other words, by living in the most appropriate area you'll be able to thrive, instead of barely surviving.

Black people should be living in most of Europe, for example. Northern Europe mainly and Central Europe too, as they are ill-suited to it. They will never reach full happiness like that. At the same rate, they could never live appropriately if they are too close to Antarctica. They need a lot of Sun and as direct as it is the closer you go to the Equator. Places like Ireland and Little Britain, for example, do not provide the right characteristics.

I can talk about other races too, new or old, but there is little point in doing so, as the laws of nature do not change.

Human beings are not such a species that can live "anywhere they want". They have required conditions they need to satisfy in order to thrive. You can compromise as much as you want in desperate times, but it's not going to bring you 100% happiness.

Being a nomad is not a natural state of being. Human beings are such that they bond with the land on a spiritual level, forming such strong connections that the more you advance the more it won't sit right with you to live somewhere where your roots cannot be grounded. Being a nomad is an impairment of your muladhara chakra (your root), which will be fixed as you advance, if you truly want to advance.

Sure, there are people who need variety and change, and they can do so by travelling and having holidays, not by doing something as unnatural as relocating every 3/6 months or whatever your plan was. Do you want to grow and uplift yourself, or do you want to barely cope? This is a decision you have to make yourself. Even if there were free borders and free citizenship for everyone, nature will always follow its and only impaired people would change residency on a whim, while the rest will look to settle and put down their roots.

Turkey is not an arab country. Turkey is white. We don't want to arabs in our country.
 
Stormblood said:
slyscorpion said:
Stormblood said:
These not assumptions. There are growth stages fully outlined if one knows enough about astrology and other spiritual science. All one needs is to meditate and develop a close relationship with nature and the Gods, instead of thinking that anything that comes to mind is legitimate just because they did one meditation that day, like many people seem to do in this path when it comes to many things.

Some wrong patterns of behaviour, for example, stick because people never purify themselves and never analyse their lives in due depth to see if those patterns serve them well or are completely alien or nefarious. That's how, for example, some people end up magnifying these and leaving the JoS simply because the clergy or some other advanced member exposes these patterns. They may even go as far as organising their own groups or cults to perpetuate these lower things or simply go insane from them.

One thing that is certain is that children are supposed to grow into their own as soon as possible upon reaching adult age, and that does not happen by acting like parasites to your parents, draining their financial and other resources, without contributing to uplifting your family/clan in any way, shape or form. SS, in particular, have spiritual tools to grow in a faster, more natural way compared to NPCs, and turn the odds around when there are forces working against them. That is, however, if they are willing and motivated to act so and hold themselves to SS standards, instead of copying NPCs in their decadent behaviours.

I have nothing against you personally I agree with you in ideal world yes. However in today's world no most the time you want to be independent this leads to being a slave. I can actually see why some of these npcs act the way they do. I would say with the situation the world is in its not unethical.

I think like a business person myself. Everything is a means to an end. The goal is always to have the most happy and most easy life possible.

I actually know you are trying to stick up for ancient values just like I am. I like that. So I don't want you to think I am critical of you.

Ok what is more wrong. The way a lot of people in the world live right now or being a slave to big Jew working 80 hours just to barley survive not having any real opportunities to actually be successful in life and don't tell a bunch of people that they are supposed to go to an education institution that is Marxist and go into debt to have about the same results as people that didn't.

I don't really greatly fault either side here. I think it's a dumb and bad situation the world is in.

The only way out is to think like a businessman and make your own money work for yourself. I don't really act much like a parasite to anyone myself nor do I want to lower myself that way very much. However there is a part of me that says this is the way to be rebel against the system and better than the alternative so go for it.

I agree that the working week is excessively long nowadays and sometimes doesn't even get you minimum wage, let alone living wage. However, a few people have the luck to be in love with their careers (like it should be in all cases, really) and for people like that it doesn't really matter how long they work. I worked 80 to 100+ hours a week at a job and I never felt stressed by it or like I was overextending myself. That was in the past and I wish I could do the same again, and that most people had the same luck in regards to it, only for it to last for a lifetime.

The biggest problem I see is people working 9-5 jobs, getting home and the only thing they care about is partying, getting drunk, watching netflix, playing videogames, and doing other empty activities, instead of developing themselves and having recreational activities that weren't completely jewed and dead.

Another thing to note is how too many people that complain about 'not having money' make 'every mistake in the book' in spending what they have: take-away, fast food, alcohol, tobacco, drugs, sodas, unnecessary Ubers/taxis, new clothes every other minute, subscriptions to stuff they don't use and that it's useless, coffee (from shops like Starbucks, instead of making it at home or using the coffee machine at work)...

So, yeah, there's both sides of the coin and how having a decadent lifestyle is become the norm so much that is expected and demanded. In other words, we have a slave system where people keep acting like slaves and low-tier parasites in more way than once.

I think we don't really disagree. We just look at it from partially different perspectives and have issues communicating it. That's all.

Talking about success and wealth, many people think that corruption is a good way and of the strong, just because some face justice while others share theft with shitty governments.

Corruption has now become part of Gentile life and culture thanks to the jews. This is the case when injustice reigns supreme.

They steal public funds, corrupt politicians sell the wealth of nations to the monopoly of the enemy and people are ruined and condemned to live in poverty.
 
Master said:
Stormblood said:
slyscorpion said:
I have nothing against you personally I agree with you in ideal world yes. However in today's world no most the time you want to be independent this leads to being a slave. I can actually see why some of these npcs act the way they do. I would say with the situation the world is in its not unethical.

I think like a business person myself. Everything is a means to an end. The goal is always to have the most happy and most easy life possible.

I actually know you are trying to stick up for ancient values just like I am. I like that. So I don't want you to think I am critical of you.

Ok what is more wrong. The way a lot of people in the world live right now or being a slave to big Jew working 80 hours just to barley survive not having any real opportunities to actually be successful in life and don't tell a bunch of people that they are supposed to go to an education institution that is Marxist and go into debt to have about the same results as people that didn't.

I don't really greatly fault either side here. I think it's a dumb and bad situation the world is in.

The only way out is to think like a businessman and make your own money work for yourself. I don't really act much like a parasite to anyone myself nor do I want to lower myself that way very much. However there is a part of me that says this is the way to be rebel against the system and better than the alternative so go for it.

I agree that the working week is excessively long nowadays and sometimes doesn't even get you minimum wage, let alone living wage. However, a few people have the luck to be in love with their careers (like it should be in all cases, really) and for people like that it doesn't really matter how long they work. I worked 80 to 100+ hours a week at a job and I never felt stressed by it or like I was overextending myself. That was in the past and I wish I could do the same again, and that most people had the same luck in regards to it, only for it to last for a lifetime.

The biggest problem I see is people working 9-5 jobs, getting home and the only thing they care about is partying, getting drunk, watching netflix, playing videogames, and doing other empty activities, instead of developing themselves and having recreational activities that weren't completely jewed and dead.

Another thing to note is how too many people that complain about 'not having money' make 'every mistake in the book' in spending what they have: take-away, fast food, alcohol, tobacco, drugs, sodas, unnecessary Ubers/taxis, new clothes every other minute, subscriptions to stuff they don't use and that it's useless, coffee (from shops like Starbucks, instead of making it at home or using the coffee machine at work)...

So, yeah, there's both sides of the coin and how having a decadent lifestyle is become the norm so much that is expected and demanded. In other words, we have a slave system where people keep acting like slaves and low-tier parasites in more way than once.

I think we don't really disagree. We just look at it from partially different perspectives and have issues communicating it. That's all.

Talking about success and wealth, many people think that corruption is a good way and of the strong, just because some face justice while others share theft with shitty governments.

Corruption has now become part of Gentile life and culture thanks to the jews. This is the case when injustice reigns supreme.

They steal public funds, corrupt politicians sell the wealth of nations to the monopoly of the enemy and people are ruined and condemned to live in poverty.

That's the other point. I seriously think many of those people are psychopath whether they are gentile or not. They may have been programmed a certain way. The other thing is they are around Jews all the time if they make it to the top like Trump (who I said several times was better then the alternatives but no one should think he's great he was really corrupt to) was there was a thread on what Jewish energy is like. Not really surprising. I am quite familiar with how this works sadly I kind of wish I wasn't cause it would have been nice not to have to deal with Jewish energy. It can make people gravitate towards the most corrupt things and desire to attack everyone and in general act just like you see those people acting who are gentiles and really successful in this way.
 
Master said:
Stormblood said:
slyscorpion said:
I have nothing against you personally I agree with you in ideal world yes. However in today's world no most the time you want to be independent this leads to being a slave. I can actually see why some of these npcs act the way they do. I would say with the situation the world is in its not unethical.

I think like a business person myself. Everything is a means to an end. The goal is always to have the most happy and most easy life possible.

I actually know you are trying to stick up for ancient values just like I am. I like that. So I don't want you to think I am critical of you.

Ok what is more wrong. The way a lot of people in the world live right now or being a slave to big Jew working 80 hours just to barley survive not having any real opportunities to actually be successful in life and don't tell a bunch of people that they are supposed to go to an education institution that is Marxist and go into debt to have about the same results as people that didn't.

I don't really greatly fault either side here. I think it's a dumb and bad situation the world is in.

The only way out is to think like a businessman and make your own money work for yourself. I don't really act much like a parasite to anyone myself nor do I want to lower myself that way very much. However there is a part of me that says this is the way to be rebel against the system and better than the alternative so go for it.

I agree that the working week is excessively long nowadays and sometimes doesn't even get you minimum wage, let alone living wage. However, a few people have the luck to be in love with their careers (like it should be in all cases, really) and for people like that it doesn't really matter how long they work. I worked 80 to 100+ hours a week at a job and I never felt stressed by it or like I was overextending myself. That was in the past and I wish I could do the same again, and that most people had the same luck in regards to it, only for it to last for a lifetime.

The biggest problem I see is people working 9-5 jobs, getting home and the only thing they care about is partying, getting drunk, watching netflix, playing videogames, and doing other empty activities, instead of developing themselves and having recreational activities that weren't completely jewed and dead.

Another thing to note is how too many people that complain about 'not having money' make 'every mistake in the book' in spending what they have: take-away, fast food, alcohol, tobacco, drugs, sodas, unnecessary Ubers/taxis, new clothes every other minute, subscriptions to stuff they don't use and that it's useless, coffee (from shops like Starbucks, instead of making it at home or using the coffee machine at work)...

So, yeah, there's both sides of the coin and how having a decadent lifestyle is become the norm so much that is expected and demanded. In other words, we have a slave system where people keep acting like slaves and low-tier parasites in more way than once.

I think we don't really disagree. We just look at it from partially different perspectives and have issues communicating it. That's all.

Talking about success and wealth, many people think that corruption is a good way and of the strong, just because some face justice while others share theft with shitty governments.

Corruption has now become part of Gentile life and culture thanks to the jews. This is the case when injustice reigns supreme.

They steal public funds, corrupt politicians sell the wealth of nations to the monopoly of the enemy and people are ruined and condemned to live in poverty.

Plus many of these people marry Jews or date them which puts them even deeper in the Jewish matrix. If a person's soul is overtaken by this energy don't be surprised if they act no differently than a racial jew or even worse since Gentiles have the creative aspect to their soul.

We still have the Jewish problem here as the main root cause. They have been turned into Shabbos goy. They are completely under the control of Jews both in the physical and spiritual to the point a rabbi could get them to do anything just by a simple spell.
 
throwaway5683465 said:
Despite the openness with which I approached Nat Soc, I am still vehemently opposed to it on a soul level. It just makes my soul cry out in opposition too much. I am fully opposed to ORION. I refuse to serve others just because they are my race. I am fundamentally opposed to being confined in my career choices (this means being able to do jobs that might not be considered ‘careers’ yet) and even just forcing people in general to work. I am also opposed to being forced and confined to live in a geography based on my race.

I really tried to have an open mind, but NS genuinely makes my soul cry out in pain. I tried to be open, but it fundamentally goes against who I am at my core.

I’ve had a great experience spiritually with Satan and his Gods. But NS is claimed here as the politics of Satan himself, and everyone here is obsessed with NS and Hitler. I really just can’t stomach it.

NS and Hitler seem to be of the utmost importance to SS that I feel totally out of place and even like I am disrespecting and harming the group due to my extreme opposition to NS and Hitler.

Should I leave?

I love Hitler and his life story but I don't like Eurocentrism here. There is so much people that couldn't broken their prejudices against non-europeans from christianity.
 
slyscorpion said:
Master said:
Stormblood said:
I agree that the working week is excessively long nowadays and sometimes doesn't even get you minimum wage, let alone living wage. However, a few people have the luck to be in love with their careers (like it should be in all cases, really) and for people like that it doesn't really matter how long they work. I worked 80 to 100+ hours a week at a job and I never felt stressed by it or like I was overextending myself. That was in the past and I wish I could do the same again, and that most people had the same luck in regards to it, only for it to last for a lifetime.

The biggest problem I see is people working 9-5 jobs, getting home and the only thing they care about is partying, getting drunk, watching netflix, playing videogames, and doing other empty activities, instead of developing themselves and having recreational activities that weren't completely jewed and dead.

Another thing to note is how too many people that complain about 'not having money' make 'every mistake in the book' in spending what they have: take-away, fast food, alcohol, tobacco, drugs, sodas, unnecessary Ubers/taxis, new clothes every other minute, subscriptions to stuff they don't use and that it's useless, coffee (from shops like Starbucks, instead of making it at home or using the coffee machine at work)...

So, yeah, there's both sides of the coin and how having a decadent lifestyle is become the norm so much that is expected and demanded. In other words, we have a slave system where people keep acting like slaves and low-tier parasites in more way than once.

I think we don't really disagree. We just look at it from partially different perspectives and have issues communicating it. That's all.

Talking about success and wealth, many people think that corruption is a good way and of the strong, just because some face justice while others share theft with shitty governments.

Corruption has now become part of Gentile life and culture thanks to the jews. This is the case when injustice reigns supreme.

They steal public funds, corrupt politicians sell the wealth of nations to the monopoly of the enemy and people are ruined and condemned to live in poverty.

That's the other point. I seriously think many of those people are psychopath whether they are gentile or not. They may have been programmed a certain way. The other thing is they are around Jews all the time if they make it to the top like Trump (who I said several times was better then the alternatives but no one should think he's great he was really corrupt to) was there was a thread on what Jewish energy is like. Not really surprising. I am quite familiar with how this works sadly I kind of wish I wasn't cause it would have been nice not to have to deal with Jewish energy. It can make people gravitate towards the most corrupt things and desire to attack everyone and in general act just like you see those people acting who are gentiles and really successful in this way.

The Gentiles who do these things are nothing but criminals like the jews.
 
slyscorpion said:
Yes the people in more urban city type places are far from pacifists. I am aware of this. If anything I think they take things to far in the direction of being aggressive. Any of the people trying to appease to these people or set up laws to their advantage are just dumb and are going to get used. Many of the people that come from these places also can pretend to be nice and your friend and stuff but will just use you. They know how to act very well.

This is almost as bad as those Islamic immigrants in Europe thing to my mind.

The reality is when you have non white people combined with them being very spiritually degraded you get shitty people or in this case almost animal like in the worse of the cases. For whites it's different I think the worst of y'all isn't the uneducated poor "ghetto" white but the college degree self hating white working over time to abolish him and herself. You won't see many none spiritual whites acting like animals just like you won't see many non-whites publicly and "proudly" trying to destroy their own race.

A lot of these poor non white people are good at heart and just need a good leader. The majority of humans need to follow. People like us here can't comprehend being like that but we have the capabilities to understand why are they like that. They'll just follow whoever is in control with no fight. Its just how humans are today. Maybe in the future with spirituality at our base again this will be different but it's how it is now. Of course anyone not wanting to contribute to society should be exiled and let them live their fake Hollywood/trap celebrity wanna be lifestyles

What you said about how they're good at "manipulating" well, for the most part, it's learned from being "down to earth". It can be used for good like how I do at my job it. Not exactly manipulating but know what and how to say things in the right time so I can convince them to buy something. Not saying to trust anyone since none spiritual people with this type of skill usually tend to abuse it.

All your life being around the harsh reality of how life can get brutal in this jewed world will make you more "human" than those born and raised in lavish and comfortable lifestyles. Just look at how the latter tend to have fake personalities online or when you first meet them compared to the middle aged woman from the bad part of town working 2 jobs trying to get ahead for her child(ren). There's exceptions (like the soul of the person might be stronger in any of these examples for they will obviously look at life in a real way no matter where they came from) for both but logically there's going to be more from each side, respectfully.

Anyways, I agree, we need policies based on the realization of the science behind each race. There's already way too much power given to the worse of humanity by the jew in power and it has been detrimental to society and now some are starting to act like gods since they know they're being catered to.
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Satan

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