Is my hypothesis about Saturn correct?

[FancyMancy]

My other post at the moment, about doing reaction likes to posts for information, reminded me about something I wanted to say and ask.

It has been said that Saturn, in our Astrology, is the Planet of suffering, where we suffer in life. It has also been said that it is the Planet that we can use to learn things. After our Bodies pass away and we are in-between incarnations, we are taught things by the Gods and Goddesses before we are reincarnated into the next life. The Planet Saturn is for that very reason, in small or large part. I presume also that it is also the Planet of punishment because we did something wrong or terrible in a previous life, so we must pay the price for that in this life, and Saturn is in correct placement for relevant punishment upon our Soul and conscience and consciousness, so that we can either learn and grow better, or not and just get worse and dissipate eventually. For example, take any (not the jew) Human individual who is notorious and has been in the news and has articles about them, if they did a very bad thing but maybe not too bad to be forced into annihilation, then they will be punished and suffer in one or more future lives, with Saturn in the correct placement for that very purpose.

Is that right? Am I on the right lines with that? Saturn in the relevant placement in my chart has really... loved me tenderly is a pain and caused suffering (which I expect it is for most people) that, based on its placement and including other things, I am thinking is because I did something very bad in a previous life, or lives, so I need to go through this punishing difficulty now for learning and balance. I dread to think what might happen during the next Saturn return. I think it would be worse.

Thanks.

 

[May Flower]

I have tried to learn well enough of my saturn. I learned enough of my past lives, and I was terrible. Yes saturn is punishment, but is it space to be reconciled? or space to be avoided? My saturn placement makes community minded things a failure. Not just for me, but the environment I connect myself to. I don't care to fight through that slog of distrust and suspicion just to be 'valid'. I love that the context of my effort is what is constantly challenged whenever I try to speak up. Instead of the context and content of my input. It happens in every space I'm in. Outside of the temple just as well. Our karma is impressed upon us through others. I hope that the community lifts you up as you deserve.

 

[Anemos Aiteros]

Don't think about what you did in your past lives or what you have done in this life.

If you fall for what happens in your life, you can rise again.

Dedicate to Zeus by blood, you shall rise.

Virtue Β - The Fall

 

[Hs666]

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Saturn is the main key to divinity. As long as human beings are “nailed” to their lower nature, Saturn will have a limiting and blocking function.

In the 12 labors of Hercules, Eurystheus (Saturn) imposes very difficult trials. Saturn is the one who forges and brings progress. Only after dominating Saturn does its function of “blocking” end, and it opens the doors to higher nature.

Hercules tried to refuse the challenges proposed by Eurystheus (Saturn), but he was told that the correct solution was to overcome those trials. He had to impose the will of the soul on lower nature.

Zeus (Will of the soul) fights and integrates Cronus (Saturn). This is another allegory that teaches the need to learn to master Saturn in order to access Divinity.

Saturn in the astrological chart will indicate the main trials that an initiate must experience/master in order to access, thanks to Saturn, the divine plane.

 

[MarsUltor666]

Thank you for asking, and for the answers here. Because, I've had the same questions and problem.

I have been suffering a lot, recently, and I'm sure it's due to Saturn. When I look at my transits, it's pretty obvious.

However, I do remember what High Priest wrote. Something along the lines of one experiencing setbacks in things one wants, in order to progress. The areas in my life in which I am suffering, are also the areas in my life in which I've severely lacked, and desire greatly.

So, this seems to be true, to me.

 

[FancyMancy]

@May Flower
@Anemos Aiteros
@Hs666

Thank you all for your replies. That's big. There appears to be more virtues added than what I read already. Thanks. I am dedicated with blood already, by the way.

The areas in my life in which I am suffering, are also the areas in my life in which I've severely lacked, and desire greatly.

So, this seems to be true, to me.

Thank you for your reply, also. At the risk of encouraging 'misery loves company' - I quote you here for both emphasis and truth/identifying with you. It's the exact same with me. You said it exactly correctly (for me) - and I say this with great emphasis.

A coincidence I am experiencing this very second as I am typing this - I have a bit of a song in my head, which I heard recently and has been in my head a bit, but then it popped into my head again today. It is by Olive - You're Not Alone. Then I see that you posted that. Now of course many people go through things all the time, but this here and now... My.

I am reading what you said multiple times, and... yeah. Definitely I don't think there's any other way to put it.

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Yeah, I've been here for years, but age doesn't bring maturity. I'm clearly a classic example of that. It's been on my mind for ages, but it came out purely accidentally, in bits and pieces over time but a lot more in that other thread, which was unintentional but still, if it is a channel for it to be fixed, then fine. Swallow your (bad) pride and accept that you need help - yes, but there comes a time when "enough is enough" - and I've had those many times - but the more they build up, the more-enough it becomes more-enough, then there's a tipping point.

 

[MarsUltor666]

Thank you for your reply, also. At the risk of encouraging 'misery loves company' - I quote you here for both emphasis and truth/identifying with you. It's the exact same with me. You said it exactly correctly (for me) - and I say this with great emphasis.

A coincidence I am experiencing this very second as I am typing this - I have a bit of a song in my head, which I heard recently and has been in my head a bit, but then it popped into my head again today. It is by Olive - You're Not Alone. Then I see that you posted that. Now of course many people go through things all the time, but this here and now... My.

I am reading what you said multiple times, and... yeah. Definitely I don't think there's any other way to put it.

That's good to know, and quite reassuring. We are in the same boat then, so to speak.

I will repeat what has probably become one of my most liked sayings: "There's no such thing as a coincidence". So, it's likely that was a sign I have had uncanny "coincidences" with songs playing on the radio, too. It's the timing of it. I have a strong pull to study what Carl Jung meant by synchronicity.

I think we indeed have lessons to learn, in life. If we want something, we have to earn it. Even though I feel this lesson is still ongoing, already, I can feel myself growing and improving. I believe I have been given signs from the Gods, telling me that it will take time.

We must be strong and endure, brother. There will be better times ahead, and then I think we will be grateful to Saturn and the Gods, for what life can bring to us.