Rituals #77808 Can I ask the gods to cleanse my soul in a ritual?

[AskSatanOperator]

I feel the energy after the rituals and I wonder if I can ask the gods to cleanse my chakras and soul in general, and maybe even karma. I really want to become clean as soon as possible and hear instructions.

 

[Kyntara]

You should clean your soul yourself, don't ask the Gods for it. Gods gave us the knowledge to purify ourselves and they want us to be self-sufficient. If you are new in the Path, you can ask your GD for help but you should still clean your soul yourself.

 

[AFODO]

eehm, not impossible but simply do a ritual for a God where the prayer already asks for this. Another example if you want to expend your consciousness, do a ritual where the prayer already asks for this, and so on.

 

[Username]

The gods are not servants of humans. They have a lot on their hands and can't afford to take care of each and every Spiritual Satanists. Clean your aura by your own self.

 

[hailourtruegod]

A better idea is to clean before a ritual but before you do, start with meditating on the sigil or Shenu Ring of the God, and ask Him/Her to help you and take away negative energies being cleansed/healed away. You are to do your part while reaching out to Them to help you with what you can't. There's no "I'll do this ritual and You can just do basic things for me" as other have pointed out.

 

[Blitzkreig [TG]]

The gods are not servants of humans. They have a lot on their hands and can't afford to take care of each and every Spiritual Satanists. Clean your aura by your own self.

There is a prioritization of attention and help, but not in the sense of that the Gods "cannot afford" to take care of us. In my opinion, OP should just do the ritual and ask. If direct assistance is not given, it can lead to insight on how to better perform on one's own.

Further, HPS Maxine has written before that is ok to ask for help in this way, like to ask your GD to help remove dirt as you are cleaning yourself. This may apply more to beginners, but it still stands as proof that the Gods are not entirely hands off in these affairs.

 

[Acolyte Of Pan 666]

There is a prioritization of attention and help, but not in the sense of that the Gods "cannot afford" to take care of us. In my opinion, OP should just do the ritual and ask. If direct assistance is not given, it can lead to insight on how to better perform on one's own.

Further, HPS Maxine has written before that is ok to ask for help in this way, like to ask your GD to help remove dirt as you are cleaning yourself. This may apply more to beginners, but it still stands as proof that the Gods are not entirely hands off in these affairs.

A slightly different question (or maybe not?), can you "direct" (if that's the proper term for this, perhaps politely ask is a better one instead?) the energy you receive from God rituals to cleanse yourself, if the God is about purification? I'm mainly thinking of Lord Apollo's ritual for this context since He is a God of purification.

 

[Username]

There is a prioritization of attention and help, but not in the sense of that the Gods "cannot afford" to take care of us. In my opinion, OP should just do the ritual and ask. If direct assistance is not given, it can lead to insight on how to better perform on one's own.

I agree with you. Especially about the part about just doing the ritual and asking. Although, I would like to add that every God as a finite and limited energy. They may or may not use the energy based according to efficiency. Of course, this is just an assumption.

 

[Stormblood]

Even without asking for it, God rituals like Lady Ma'at's ritual are very purifying.

 

[Stormblood]

I agree with you. Especially about the part about just doing the ritual and asking. Although, I would like to add that every God as a finite and limited energy. They may or may not use the energy based according to efficiency. Of course, this is just an assumption.

The amount of energy a God has is inconsequential, especially considering that 1 quintillionth of their energy is more than sufficient for most requests.

 

[Username]

The amount of energy a God has is inconsequential, especially considering that 1 quintillionth of their energy is more than sufficient for most requests.

My point is that even if a quintillionth of their energy is more than enough to eradicate planets or was away mere filth, even then, this proves that their energies are limited. A quillionth is a quantity which means it is countable. Had they had infinite energy, this planet and every other planet would have been liberated ages ago. The fact they haven't done this means that their energy may be used on other more important sectors. This Satanist request is most likely to be granted if asked. Even then, they won't use this energy without expecting benefits. They have to manage each bits and pieces of their energy for maximum gain. Every energy invested is an investment. Investment of which they would likely expect future profits and benefits. That's all.

 

[Blitzkreig [TG]]

My point is that even if a quintillionth of their energy is more than enough to eradicate planets or was away mere filth, even then, this proves that their energies are limited. A quillionth is a quantity which means it is countable. Had they had infinite energy, this planet and every other planet would have been liberated ages ago. The fact they haven't done this means that their energy may be used on other more important sectors. This Satanist request is most likely to be granted if asked. Even then, they won't use this energy without expecting benefits. They have to manage each bits and pieces of their energy for maximum gain. Every energy invested is an investment. Investment of which they would likely expect future profits and benefits. That's all.

Both sides of this debate are true in their own ways, as yes a God can always use their energy for other purposes, but in our case, a small amount for them goes a long way for us. What is most important for both parties therefore becomes maximizing the investment of the Gods' energies on us. Since we are the limiting factor, this requires us to develop the necessary skills to make the most use of their attention.

Although trying to handle matters on our own can be rooted in the belief of respect for the Gods' time, taking a more active approach to better receive them is a better way to develop the relationship long term.

 

[Blitzkreig [TG]]

A slightly different question (or maybe not?), can you "direct" (if that's the proper term for this, perhaps politely ask is a better one instead?) the energy you receive from God rituals to cleanse yourself, if the God is about purification? I'm mainly thinking of Lord Apollo's ritual for this context since He is a God of purification.

I believe you can, but I have not done anything specific to purification in this way. Stormblood brings up a good point regarding Maat.

It is better to try and experiment with this to figure out the specific procedures. I would not be afraid necessarily of trying to direct their energy within you, because your will can amplify the result, but the God themselves can help clarify how to properly achieve this type of result.

Going along with what I said in my post above, it is better to try and not be too afraid of offending them, as long as your intentions are positive, as more involvement with them will always advance you more than less.

 

[Username]

Both sides of this debate are true in their own ways, as yes a God can always use their energy for other purposes, but in our case, a small amount for them goes a long way for us. What is most important for both parties therefore becomes maximizing the investment of the Gods' energies on us. Since we are the limiting factor, this requires us to develop the necessary skills to make the most use of their attention.

Although trying to handle matters on our own can be rooted in the belief of respect for the Gods' time, taking a more active approach to better receive them is a better way to develop the relationship long term.

Well said, Blitzkreig TG. Reading your reply, I have realized one thing. That I had underestimated the Gods. I was seeing the tree but not the whole forest. At a first glance, both sides of the coin may appear to be a win win for the Gods. Taking matters into your own hands without relying on the Gods or relying and building a loving relationship with the Gods. However, there is a great downward slant in cost efficiency with the former but a humongous upwards one with the latter. The key word is 'love' and 'relationship'.

Love is the cheapest form of currency which can be used to incentivize people i.e., making them do tasks. Love is hard coded into a parent's gene to ensure the survival of the baby and the future generations thereof. Love between friends increases the cohesiveness of humanity. Love between couples generally incentivizes the male to provide for the female. In all of these, a person does something for the other without expectations of any material remuneration. The thing that makes love so wonderful is that it can be printed endlessly and is very inexpensive. Goods and service bought with love is love itself. Therefore, it can never run out and can be traded endlessly among humanity.

'I do it because I love you.'

The problem with taking matters into your own hand and not relying on Gods is that it fosters a sense of independence in a Satanist. It creates distance between oneself and the Gods. A sense of alienation and isolation thus takes root. On the bright side, respect to the Gods and their time is fostered. However, this to the Gods is severely cost inefficient and comes with risks. In the lack of a relationship between a Satanist and the Gods, they may cannot push a Satanist towards their personal outcomes, self interests or tendencies without expending more energy than they would by the medium of love. People are susceptible to those they have opened their heart towards. They are more likely to obey a loved one than a stranger towards whom they are on guard against. The stranger has to doll out different forms of energy, be it financial or spiritual, to influence that person, all of which are hard earned and are not free or easily generated like love. The implications are spiritual and are connected to heart chakra. The same applies in a relationship or a lack of it between a Satanist and the Gods.

The above however is not the most problematic aspect to the Gods. A little bit of cost inefficiency as explained above is fine here and there. However, it is not fine anymore in the long term. Because, this to Gods, is a major threat to their self interest. A major threat of self interest to Satan himself. Almost, if not all of the Gods are dedicated to Satan. Anyone newly dedicated is expected to dedicate their lives to Satan eternally even if they were not serious about dedicating their soul to him when doing the ritual. People who do not foster a relationship with the gods, usually exhibit more independent characterisitics. They are lone boats sailing in the high seas. Too much indendency and isolation, creates an emroyo of distrust and loyalty to oneself. Loyalty is spectrum and usually these people are more loyal to themselves than they are loyal to other things. The more loyal they are to oneself the more it is a betrayal to Gods for they do things which mostly serve their own self interests and not the Gods'. The feeling of natural or unnnatural guilt often attacks the conscience of those who have promised to dedicate but strive for their own personal gain moreso than for their higherups, be it the ToZ or the Gods. The ToZ has not openly criticized this behaviour but often has guided such people out of this behaviour subtly and indirectly through sermons. After all they cannot go around saying blatantly to put the Gods above anything and everything. It will just put off those who are considering dedication.

That's my bits and pieces on this subject.

 

[Lightningsnake]

I recommend this ritual for this purpose. It is part of the ritual.

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[Username]

I believe you can, but I have not done anything specific to purification in this way. Stormblood brings up a good point regarding Maat.

It is better to try and experiment with this to figure out the specific procedures. I would not be afraid necessarily of trying to direct their energy within you, because your will can amplify the result, but the God themselves can help clarify how to properly achieve this type of result.

Going along with what I said in my post above, it is better to try and not be too afraid of offending them, as long as your intentions are positive, as more involvement with them will always advance you more than less.

Greetings Guardian Blitzkreig. I suddenly feel like saying greetings to high priests and priestess for their wonderful guidance that they have shown me. Truly mesmerizing and beautiful. Believing in the things you believe without much hesitation and doubt, truly a role model.