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I'm interested in a girl, but what disturbs me is her tendency to swear a lot. If a person often uses swear words, does it mean that he or she is spiritually low human?
She might have been raised with parents who curse a lot or her friends might have been like that growing up. It doesn't mean she can't change. Tell her to consciously have control and realize what she's saying. Tell her it feels like she's dumb or illiterate in front of everyone, when she constantly swears and everyone looks down upon her and talks behind her back about how stupid and distasteful she sounds,therefore she should change the way she speaks. Women are very mindful of social proof so making her realize these things can help her change.Nero said:I'm interested in a girl, but what disturbs me is her tendency to swear a lot. If a person often uses swear words, does it mean that he or she is spiritually low human?
I get it that you like redpill forums and the alpha male mentality but being a dick to people and especially those you are interested in isn’t the way to go.Jack said:She might have been raised with parents who curse a lot or her friends might have been like that growing up. It doesn't mean she can't change. Tell her to consciously have control and realize what she's saying. Tell her it feels like she's dumb or illiterate in front of everyone, when she constantly swears and everyone looks down upon her and talks behind her back about how stupid and distasteful she sounds,therefore she should change the way she speaks. Women are very mindful of social proof so making her realize these things can help her change.Nero said:I'm interested in a girl, but what disturbs me is her tendency to swear a lot. If a person often uses swear words, does it mean that he or she is spiritually low human?
"Who the fuck do you think you are to tell me not to fucking swear? Fuck off." Oops. You just lost your chance with her! Have fun - or don't! Just chill. Sheesh. It's a bit more mature to ignore silly behaviours than to try and be religious and force someone to change their Mind - which you cannot do very easily! People don't change their Minds very easily, so don't waste your time, energy, effort in trying to change someone. Alternatively, use Magick to encourage her to chill herself out a bit, as well, if it is necessary.Aquarius said:I get it that you like redpill forums and the alpha male mentality but being a dick to people and especially those you are interested in isn’t the way to go.Jack said:She might have been raised with parents who curse a lot or her friends might have been like that growing up. It doesn't mean she can't change. Tell her to consciously have control and realize what she's saying. Tell her it feels like she's dumb or illiterate in front of everyone, when she constantly swears and everyone looks down upon her and talks behind her back about how stupid and distasteful she sounds,therefore she should change the way she speaks. Women are very mindful of social proof so making her realize these things can help her change.Nero said:I'm interested in a girl, but what disturbs me is her tendency to swear a lot. If a person often uses swear words, does it mean that he or she is spiritually low human?
Aquarius said:I get it that you like redpill forums and the alpha male mentality but being a dick to people and especially those you are interested in isn’t the way to go.Jack said:She might have been raised with parents who curse a lot or her friends might have been like that growing up. It doesn't mean she can't change. Tell her to consciously have control and realize what she's saying. Tell her it feels like she's dumb or illiterate in front of everyone, when she constantly swears and everyone looks down upon her and talks behind her back about how stupid and distasteful she sounds,therefore she should change the way she speaks. Women are very mindful of social proof so making her realize these things can help her change.Nero said:I'm interested in a girl, but what disturbs me is her tendency to swear a lot. If a person often uses swear words, does it mean that he or she is spiritually low human?
Aquarius said:I get it that you like redpill forums and the alpha male mentality but being a dick to people and especially those you are interested in isn’t the way to go.Jack said:She might have been raised with parents who curse a lot or her friends might have been like that growing up. It doesn't mean she can't change. Tell her to consciously have control and realize what she's saying. Tell her it feels like she's dumb or illiterate in front of everyone, when she constantly swears and everyone looks down upon her and talks behind her back about how stupid and distasteful she sounds,therefore she should change the way she speaks. Women are very mindful of social proof so making her realize these things can help her change.Nero said:I'm interested in a girl, but what disturbs me is her tendency to swear a lot. If a person often uses swear words, does it mean that he or she is spiritually low human?
Aquarius said:I get it that you like redpill forums and the alpha male mentality but being a dick to people and especially those you are interested in isn’t the way to go.Jack said:She might have been raised with parents who curse a lot or her friends might have been like that growing up. It doesn't mean she can't change. Tell her to consciously have control and realize what she's saying. Tell her it feels like she's dumb or illiterate in front of everyone, when she constantly swears and everyone looks down upon her and talks behind her back about how stupid and distasteful she sounds,therefore she should change the way she speaks. Women are very mindful of social proof so making her realize these things can help her change.Nero said:I'm interested in a girl, but what disturbs me is her tendency to swear a lot. If a person often uses swear words, does it mean that he or she is spiritually low human?
People naturally get comfortable with silly things and ignore them. The reason why the OP took the effort to seek advice from us is because in his mind its not a silly thing and is a recognizable problem which is causing him strife.FancyMancy said:"Who the fuck do you think you are to tell me not to fucking swear? Fuck off." Oops. You just lost your chance with her! Have fun - or don't! Just chill. Sheesh. It's a bit more mature to ignore silly behaviours than to try and be religious and force someone to change their Mind - which you cannot do very easily! People don't change their Minds very easily, so don't waste your time, energy, effort in trying to change someone. Alternatively, use Magick to encourage her to chill herself out a bit, as well, if it is necessary.Aquarius said:I get it that you like redpill forums and the alpha male mentality but being a dick to people and especially those you are interested in isn’t the way to go.Jack said:She might have been raised with parents who curse a lot or her friends might have been like that growing up. It doesn't mean she can't change. Tell her to consciously have control and realize what she's saying. Tell her it feels like she's dumb or illiterate in front of everyone, when she constantly swears and everyone looks down upon her and talks behind her back about how stupid and distasteful she sounds,therefore she should change the way she speaks. Women are very mindful of social proof so making her realize these things can help her change.
I’m not against telling her that she should use less swear words, I am against humiliating her in front of people, that’s a dick move.Jack said:Aquarius said:I get it that you like redpill forums and the alpha male mentality but being a dick to people and especially those you are interested in isn’t the way to go.Jack said:She might have been raised with parents who curse a lot or her friends might have been like that growing up. It doesn't mean she can't change. Tell her to consciously have control and realize what she's saying. Tell her it feels like she's dumb or illiterate in front of everyone, when she constantly swears and everyone looks down upon her and talks behind her back about how stupid and distasteful she sounds,therefore she should change the way she speaks. Women are very mindful of social proof so making her realize these things can help her change.
Whats aplha male or 'redpill' or a 'dick' about this ? Didn't your parents tell you how to have proper interactions and not curse all the time ? They didn't do it because they had something to care. It was because they genuinely care about you.
"There's a girl I'm interested in" sounded like they're not in a relationship as of yet but are mates or friends at the moment. When I said "being religious" I meant in the sense of christians who try and be an authority on everything, making themselves more arrogant and thinking they know it all, and trying to change someone else to accept your christian (jewish) opinion. As for "silly", I was referring to something that is not the most important thing in the world; maybe I should have said "trivial", instead. It's just a way some people talk - "those silly little things like swearing".Jack said:People naturally get comfortable with silly things and ignore them. The reason why the OP took the effort to seek advice from us is because in his mind its not a silly thing and is a recognizable problem which is causing him strife.FancyMancy said:"Who the fuck do you think you are to tell me not to fucking swear? Fuck off." Oops. You just lost your chance with her! Have fun - or don't! Just chill. Sheesh. It's a bit more mature to ignore silly behaviours than to try and be religious and force someone to change their Mind - which you cannot do very easily! People don't change their Minds very easily, so don't waste your time, energy, effort in trying to change someone. Alternatively, use Magick to encourage her to chill herself out a bit, as well, if it is necessary.Aquarius said:I get it that you like redpill forums and the alpha male mentality but being a dick to people and especially those you are interested in isn’t the way to go.
In this case, wouldn't being religious mean doing the same things you've always done and keep getting the same thing you've always gotten ?
Ignoring it will help him keep the girl (potentially). But he's constantly in strife as he's not happy with the relationship and neither can he voice his opinion. In a healthy relationship both parties should be able to give constructive criticism to each other which enables more bonding. Its not good to keep feelings pent up and be silent about things. You should be able to freely talk with the other party about anything. There shouldn't be any fear of communication or the consequence of such when you genuinely want to convey something.
Although as you say beginning with something occult wise he could ease his way into solving the problem. I can't think of anything as a working though, can you ?
This is very good advice. Your better at using words semantically than I am.FancyMancy said:"There's a girl I'm interested in" sounded like they're not in a relationship as of yet but are mates or friends at the moment. When I said "being religious" I meant in the sense of christians who try and be an authority on everything, making themselves more arrogant and thinking they know it all, and trying to change someone else to accept your christian (jewish) opinion. As for "silly", I was referring to something that is not the most important thing in the world; maybe I should have said "trivial", instead. It's just a way some people talk - "those silly little things like swearing".Jack said:People naturally get comfortable with silly things and ignore them. The reason why the OP took the effort to seek advice from us is because in his mind its not a silly thing and is a recognizable problem which is causing him strife.FancyMancy said:"Who the fuck do you think you are to tell me not to fucking swear? Fuck off." Oops. You just lost your chance with her! Have fun - or don't! Just chill. Sheesh. It's a bit more mature to ignore silly behaviours than to try and be religious and force someone to change their Mind - which you cannot do very easily! People don't change their Minds very easily, so don't waste your time, energy, effort in trying to change someone. Alternatively, use Magick to encourage her to chill herself out a bit, as well, if it is necessary.
In this case, wouldn't being religious mean doing the same things you've always done and keep getting the same thing you've always gotten ?
Ignoring it will help him keep the girl (potentially). But he's constantly in strife as he's not happy with the relationship and neither can he voice his opinion. In a healthy relationship both parties should be able to give constructive criticism to each other which enables more bonding. Its not good to keep feelings pent up and be silent about things. You should be able to freely talk with the other party about anything. There shouldn't be any fear of communication or the consequence of such when you genuinely want to convey something.
Although as you say beginning with something occult wise he could ease his way into solving the problem. I can't think of anything as a working though, can you ?
As per thinking it was not a relationship yet, ignoring the "silly" or "trivial" swearing, instead of demanding it stop, would have a greater chance of getting closer with the person. If you start immediately with pointing out everything that is wrong (in your opinion) in someone, then they're not going to keep you around for very long, so accept it and ignore it for a while. One day later, for example, you could say something like -
"You know one thing which peeves me off?"
"No, what?"
"Well, don't be offended, but people who swear every other word. You are OK, though - I like you so I don't really mind it as much" (even if actually you do mind it very much) "and you're cool and things, but it's just a bit annoying. What do you think about that?"
"..."
"I wouldn't presume to tell you how to behave - you're my mate/friend, and I really appreciate you, though. I know it's a silly/stupid pet peeve of mine, lol. "
"..."
"Oh, well, thanks. I know I said it already, but you are cool. "
Don't lie and try and bullshit the person, though; be genuine. When Nero and his fancypiece are closer and trust and respect each other more, Nero could speak politely and ask if she swears less. Of course, Nero knows who she is and how she is, so the above is a mere example - and a broad one at that. Of course, the parts about falling in love and getting together are out of the bounds of this!, but perhaps you could add to the above -
If it is necessary and not uncomfortable/offensive for her "I do wish I could find someone like you who was my girlfriend, but I think I'm just 'friendzoned' now with you, lol."
That might be too forward, of course, but I am sure Nero knows her!
Workings could include you (Nero) being very influential and convincing and charismatic towards the person (this would also include having a cool Soul, rather than a dirty and crappy one), and trying to get the person to like Nero so much that she would, consciously or unconsciously, be willing to behave in certain ways so as not to upset him. If that is considered bad in a way, like forcing someone to be different just to suit yourself, then it could be for you to impress the person, instead.
If, of course, Nero and the person are together already, then I misunderstood that. "I'm interested in", to me, means "I like someone but we're not a couple yet".
I think you misread what i wrote . I didn't say you should humiliate her infront of everyone . I said you should tell her, this is what people think about you and therefore you should change . Which i take back because what FancyMancy recommended the OP to do is better .Aquarius said:I’m not against telling her that she should use less swear words, I am against humiliating her in front of people, that’s a dick move.Jack said:Aquarius said:I get it that you like redpill forums and the alpha male mentality but being a dick to people and especially those you are interested in isn’t the way to go.
Whats aplha male or 'redpill' or a 'dick' about this ? Didn't your parents tell you how to have proper interactions and not curse all the time ? They didn't do it because they had something to care. It was because they genuinely care about you.
Jack said:I think you misread what i wrote . I didn't say you should humiliate her infront of everyone . I said you should tell her, this is what people think about you and therefore you should change . Which i take back because what FancyMancy recommended the OP to do is better .Aquarius said:I’m not against telling her that she should use less swear words, I am against humiliating her in front of people, that’s a dick move.Jack said:Whats aplha male or 'redpill' or a 'dick' about this ? Didn't your parents tell you how to have proper interactions and not curse all the time ? They didn't do it because they had something to care. It was because they genuinely care about you.
No I didn't misread because you wrote exactly that, don't change your words.Jack said:Tell her it feels like she's dumb or illiterate in front of everyone, when she constantly swears and everyone looks down upon her and talks behind her back about how stupid and distasteful she sounds,therefore she should change the way she speaks.
No i didn't. You just misread it. I said "tell her(meaning to her) it feels like she's dumb or illiterate in front of everyone (meaning tell her, when shes talking like that around everyone,it feels dumb). I think im making some kind of linguistic error so your having problems understanding me or is english not your first language ?Aquarius said:Jack said:I think you misread what i wrote . I didn't say you should humiliate her infront of everyone . I said you should tell her, this is what people think about you and therefore you should change . Which i take back because what FancyMancy recommended the OP to do is better .Aquarius said:I’m not against telling her that she should use less swear words, I am against humiliating her in front of people, that’s a dick move.
No I didn't misread because you wrote exactly that, don't change your words.Jack said:Tell her it feels like she's dumb or illiterate in front of everyone, when she constantly swears and everyone looks down upon her and talks behind her back about how stupid and distasteful she sounds,therefore she should change the way she speaks.
Aquarius said:
Aww, thank you - and you're sweet!Jack said:This is very good advice. Your better at using words semantically than I am.FancyMancy said:"There's a girl I'm interested in" sounded like they're not in a relationship as of yet but are mates or friends at the moment. When I said "being religious" I meant in the sense of christians who try and be an authority on everything, making themselves more arrogant and thinking they know it all, and trying to change someone else to accept your christian (jewish) opinion. As for "silly", I was referring to something that is not the most important thing in the world; maybe I should have said "trivial", instead. It's just a way some people talk - "those silly little things like swearing".Jack said:People naturally get comfortable with silly things and ignore them. The reason why the OP took the effort to seek advice from us is because in his mind its not a silly thing and is a recognizable problem which is causing him strife.
In this case, wouldn't being religious mean doing the same things you've always done and keep getting the same thing you've always gotten ?
Ignoring it will help him keep the girl (potentially). But he's constantly in strife as he's not happy with the relationship and neither can he voice his opinion. In a healthy relationship both parties should be able to give constructive criticism to each other which enables more bonding. Its not good to keep feelings pent up and be silent about things. You should be able to freely talk with the other party about anything. There shouldn't be any fear of communication or the consequence of such when you genuinely want to convey something.
Although as you say beginning with something occult wise he could ease his way into solving the problem. I can't think of anything as a working though, can you ?
As per thinking it was not a relationship yet, ignoring the "silly" or "trivial" swearing, instead of demanding it stop, would have a greater chance of getting closer with the person. If you start immediately with pointing out everything that is wrong (in your opinion) in someone, then they're not going to keep you around for very long, so accept it and ignore it for a while. One day later, for example, you could say something like -
"You know one thing which peeves me off?"
"No, what?"
"Well, don't be offended, but people who swear every other word. You are OK, though - I like you so I don't really mind it as much" (even if actually you do mind it very much) "and you're cool and things, but it's just a bit annoying. What do you think about that?"
"..."
"I wouldn't presume to tell you how to behave - you're my mate/friend, and I really appreciate you, though. I know it's a silly/stupid pet peeve of mine, lol. "
"..."
"Oh, well, thanks. I know I said it already, but you are cool. "
Don't lie and try and bullshit the person, though; be genuine. When Nero and his fancypiece are closer and trust and respect each other more, Nero could speak politely and ask if she swears less. Of course, Nero knows who she is and how she is, so the above is a mere example - and a broad one at that. Of course, the parts about falling in love and getting together are out of the bounds of this!, but perhaps you could add to the above -
If it is necessary and not uncomfortable/offensive for her "I do wish I could find someone like you who was my girlfriend, but I think I'm just 'friendzoned' now with you, lol."
That might be too forward, of course, but I am sure Nero knows her!
Workings could include you (Nero) being very influential and convincing and charismatic towards the person (this would also include having a cool Soul, rather than a dirty and crappy one), and trying to get the person to like Nero so much that she would, consciously or unconsciously, be willing to behave in certain ways so as not to upset him. If that is considered bad in a way, like forcing someone to be different just to suit yourself, then it could be for you to impress the person, instead.
If, of course, Nero and the person are together already, then I misunderstood that. "I'm interested in", to me, means "I like someone but we're not a couple yet".
Jack said:No i didn't. You just misread it. I said "tell her(meaning to her) it feels like she's dumb or illiterate in front of everyone (meaning tell her, when shes talking like that around everyone,it feels dumb). I think im making some kind of linguistic error so your having problems understanding me or is english not your first language ?Aquarius said:Jack said:I think you misread what i wrote . I didn't say you should humiliate her infront of everyone . I said you should tell her, this is what people think about you and therefore you should change . Which i take back because what FancyMancy recommended the OP to do is better .
No I didn't misread because you wrote exactly that, don't change your words.Jack said:Tell her it feels like she's dumb or illiterate in front of everyone, when she constantly swears and everyone looks down upon her and talks behind her back about how stupid and distasteful she sounds,therefore she should change the way she speaks.
Oh well if you mean it like that I take back what I said.Jack said:No i didn't. You just misread it. I said "tell her(meaning to her) it feels like she's dumb or illiterate in front of everyone (meaning tell her, when shes talking like that around everyone,it feels dumb). I think im making some kind of linguistic error so your having problems understanding me or is english not your first language ?Aquarius said:Jack said:I think you misread what i wrote . I didn't say you should humiliate her infront of everyone . I said you should tell her, this is what people think about you and therefore you should change . Which i take back because what FancyMancy recommended the OP to do is better .
No I didn't misread because you wrote exactly that, don't change your words.Jack said:Tell her it feels like she's dumb or illiterate in front of everyone, when she constantly swears and everyone looks down upon her and talks behind her back about how stupid and distasteful she sounds,therefore she should change the way she speaks.
Yeah that was my original advice. But reevaluating it I believe it would a bit more polarizing that Fancy's advice which be softer on the ears.Powstanie Pogańskie said:Jack said:No i didn't. You just misread it. I said "tell her(meaning to her) it feels like she's dumb or illiterate in front of everyone (meaning tell her, when shes talking like that around everyone,it feels dumb). I think im making some kind of linguistic error so your having problems understanding me or is english not your first language ?Aquarius said:No I didn't misread because you wrote exactly that, don't change your words.
To see if I'm following right, you're basically saying to tell her it makes her sound dumb/illiterate in the eyes of people around her, as opposed to telling her that in a public setting in front of everyone who'd hear?
Atleast someone understands me.Ascending said:Aquarius said:
Hey Dirty Blonde Hair of Tight Curls, you sure Jack didn't mean "Tell her she sounds stupid in front of everybody," you know, as in "you sound stupid when you're cursing in front of everybody", hence his following words about how people talk about her behind her back? Considering they would likely do that if she incessantly cursed in front of them all the time... Just a guess, Blue Pill. Correct me if I'm wrong, Jack.
How is it a contradiction to say that it is very difficult to change people and then say to not be aggressive and forceful to befriend them in the hopes that they might chill out a bit? Even with Magick use, if the target is very resistant, then it still wouldn't be very easy. Also why do you think I was emotional in what I said? Lastly - have we established that this girl is Nero's partner yet, or am I correct in thinking that they're not together still?ZirGohed999 said:If one puts up some replies on this thread and matches them with other threads, they will grin widely from the walking contradictions. For instance, the fancymancy who uses their keyboard endlessly was recently emotional about how it's hard to change people but they are here advising the OP to talk some sweet sense into his partner to change her character. I think it better to acknowledge the incompatibility between or better still learn to use only one finger to type so you catch quickly yourself (and remember your stance on similar issues) while typing at the speed of light. Or Maybe one has lots of mutable qualities.
I haven't claimed to be an authority on things. It was quite obvious to me that if you tell someone, in private or in public, that they have a list-full of problems and that you want them to change to make you happy, then they would more likely than not not enjoy your company anymore.Jack said:Yeah that was my original advice. But reevaluating it I believe it would a bit more polarizing that Fancy's advice which be softer on the ears.Powstanie Pogańskie said:Jack said:No i didn't. You just misread it. I said "tell her(meaning to her) it feels like she's dumb or illiterate in front of everyone (meaning tell her, when shes talking like that around everyone,it feels dumb). I think im making some kind of linguistic error so your having problems understanding me or is english not your first language ?
To see if I'm following right, you're basically saying to tell her it makes her sound dumb/illiterate in the eyes of people around her, as opposed to telling her that in a public setting in front of everyone who'd hear?
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