nephil_improvement
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- Apr 7, 2006
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I am new to this group, but I have come here having spent the last four hours taking in knowledge from the JoS archives. And the last four months in weekly debates with local Jehova's Witnesses in an attempt to get them to honestly interact with and critique the multitude of inherent fallacies of their transitory doctrine, at every subtle opportunity presenting them with the inner heresies of their flawed sect. More recently, I have come to realise that while I am making ground with them, [culminating in my recently bringing to their attention myriad references not only for how Catholic Christianity has borrowed butchered and broken the cardinal zodiac archetypes, but how many of the fundamental tenets of their would-be 'true' Christianity harbours an unforgivable plethora of pantheistic plunder] I have in fact really been on a spiritual journey of my own.
In talking with these people, and you might feel the need to forgive or condemn me here but they are very decent human beings that I meet with, I have come to realise that what I am really doing here is stripping away early indoctrinations of my own. I now feel that if I am able to persuade these people to address their own material, their history of false prophecy, fallacy and personality cultism.. it is immaterial to me whether they come away from that experience 'enlightened' and changed in their ways and faith, or whether they come away all the stronger for having suffered my diplomatic but never disrespectful debates with them. One precious moment however was when I had them sitting smiling in happy reminiscence of the Satan that once was - He of infinite beauty, fair and faultless in the very words of one of their most beloved prophets. Ezekiel, too easy. They felt the strength of my sympathy for their devil that day. It even moved me to poetry, albeit prematurely informed I can now say with hindsight.
But now I am ready to move on. The abundance of hypocrisy in any Christian sect or schism has overwhelmed me to the point of disillusionment. I've read the deeply fascinating philosophies of great thinkers, I've examined the detestable mind-rape parasites like Scientology, and I've dabbled in the quick-fix feel-good soul food of new age con artists, those softly spoken evangelists of the liberal age.
But there exists through all of my reading an undercurrent of common inspiration, whether by well-meaning, malice, or something more akin to racial memory. There is a persistence of memory in the myths we weave and twist to suit our changing times. And it is this core creative force that I am looking for now. My search has brought me to Satan's shrine, whether I'm ready for it or not. For all I know the Satan I seek is nothing but a mask, a facade of what the rest of you express to be in communion with. I seek the Satan who can show me Truth. A paradox, I understand, at least technically. If one takes the "Shin Tet Nun" definition of STN the deceiver. Shin Tet nun, verbatim the Serpent that Surrounds and Consumes Life. Perhaps a Christian contrivance, and convenience to boot. For who better to burden the brutality of the Bible with than the scapegoat of the ages? Clever move on their part, a half-baked Dualism with all the pretension of Monotheism. Perhaps I would be wiser to interpret Satan as the All-Consuming Serpent OF Life. The helix IN and OF creation, which begat life. This feels right.
So here I am, with my lap full of already read Apocrypha, Gnostic Gospels, Jewish Mysticism and Ethiopian Enoch nonsense, trying to find the common thread amidst the lies, the best of which we all know contains a little truth. I'm tired of sifting for truth like gold dust in a river of shit.
So, someone, please, put my mind at ease. Show me Satan. Show me Truth.
Sincerely,
Nephil_Improv [an alias of temporary appeal]
In talking with these people, and you might feel the need to forgive or condemn me here but they are very decent human beings that I meet with, I have come to realise that what I am really doing here is stripping away early indoctrinations of my own. I now feel that if I am able to persuade these people to address their own material, their history of false prophecy, fallacy and personality cultism.. it is immaterial to me whether they come away from that experience 'enlightened' and changed in their ways and faith, or whether they come away all the stronger for having suffered my diplomatic but never disrespectful debates with them. One precious moment however was when I had them sitting smiling in happy reminiscence of the Satan that once was - He of infinite beauty, fair and faultless in the very words of one of their most beloved prophets. Ezekiel, too easy. They felt the strength of my sympathy for their devil that day. It even moved me to poetry, albeit prematurely informed I can now say with hindsight.
But now I am ready to move on. The abundance of hypocrisy in any Christian sect or schism has overwhelmed me to the point of disillusionment. I've read the deeply fascinating philosophies of great thinkers, I've examined the detestable mind-rape parasites like Scientology, and I've dabbled in the quick-fix feel-good soul food of new age con artists, those softly spoken evangelists of the liberal age.
But there exists through all of my reading an undercurrent of common inspiration, whether by well-meaning, malice, or something more akin to racial memory. There is a persistence of memory in the myths we weave and twist to suit our changing times. And it is this core creative force that I am looking for now. My search has brought me to Satan's shrine, whether I'm ready for it or not. For all I know the Satan I seek is nothing but a mask, a facade of what the rest of you express to be in communion with. I seek the Satan who can show me Truth. A paradox, I understand, at least technically. If one takes the "Shin Tet Nun" definition of STN the deceiver. Shin Tet nun, verbatim the Serpent that Surrounds and Consumes Life. Perhaps a Christian contrivance, and convenience to boot. For who better to burden the brutality of the Bible with than the scapegoat of the ages? Clever move on their part, a half-baked Dualism with all the pretension of Monotheism. Perhaps I would be wiser to interpret Satan as the All-Consuming Serpent OF Life. The helix IN and OF creation, which begat life. This feels right.
So here I am, with my lap full of already read Apocrypha, Gnostic Gospels, Jewish Mysticism and Ethiopian Enoch nonsense, trying to find the common thread amidst the lies, the best of which we all know contains a little truth. I'm tired of sifting for truth like gold dust in a river of shit.
So, someone, please, put my mind at ease. Show me Satan. Show me Truth.
Sincerely,
Nephil_Improv [an alias of temporary appeal]