Sexuality Is it possible to have a husband and wife at the same time?

[Sun Squad]

I want women, sometimes men, but now I want them all at once.

 

[Sun Squad]

No. A marriage is between 2 people.

You don't want to have a marriage. You want to be a whore. I know you're a man, men can be whores too.

You are free to do this if this is what you want. It is not healthy, but it is your own choice.

No, I want to be a faithful spouse

 

[BlackSnake]

If this would truly reflect your sexuality (and not some temporary unhealthy fantasy resulting from an unadvanced soul) and both of the other two parties are aware of and consent to this (and healthy themselves I would say), then I don't see the problem here, except that meeting all these requirements might be very difficult given the rarity of the situation.

I would advise you, however, to meditate and advance spiritually and analyze your situation again with a higher consciousness, to understand what it is that you really want. It is also possible that even after you have done that your idea about it does not change, and this may be because in your previous lives sexuality may have been repressed for various reasons, and in this one you might have that strong desire to be with more people in order to express this strong need of yours. Whatever the case, meditation will answer all questions.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

No, I want to be a faithful spouse

A faithful spouse is one person. Multiple people is the opposite of this.

 

[logicalmind]

"I want women", "I want men" sounds self-centered. This is not bad by itself, but with this view we lack enough perspective. I would suggest reflecting on the following: "I want to be a good husband to two people. To a woman who would be called my wife, and to a man who would be called my husband. I want to make the relationship of three people happy, fulfilling, self realizing for all of us". And then try to understand what implications, responsibilities it would have on you and potential partners. There is nothing wrong in having such desires, but being conscious enough about them to understand the potential implications of them if they would be satisfied is a good thing. Because of two reasons at least:
1. You are able to understand if this is really needed to you or was it just your unbalanced temporary needs that come out of dirt in you, out of negative karma, and so on.

2. If it would happen so that this reflects your true being, you would be able to be much more focused to construct the working necessary (spell, physical actions, etc.) in order to achieve, sustain, nurture, and improve this desire and its manifestation in your life.

I hope this clarifies the situation and gives you some more perspective.

 

[Lightning_Puma]

No. A marriage is between 2 people.

You don't want to have a marriage. You want to be a whore. I know you're a man, men can be whores too.

You are free to do this if this is what you want. It is not healthy, but it is your own choice.

What about polygamy? Isn't this a legitimate thing?

 

[MercuryWisdom]

What about polygamy? Isn't this a legitimate thing?

It is, however it is complicated and not for everyone.

You can also be polygamous and bisexual too, it doesn’t make you a whore or anything.

Fact of the matter is you can do whatever the fuck you really want if you’re adults, consenting, etc.

Agredco is free to have his opinion of the matter.

However this is what father Satan says:

 

[MercuryWisdom]

It is, however it is complicated and not for everyone.

You can also be polygamous and bisexual too, it doesn’t make you a whore or anything.

Fact of the matter is you can do whatever the fuck you really want if you’re adults, consenting, etc.

Agredco is free to have his opinion of the matter.

However this is what father Satan says:

Message didn’t get uploaded correctly, here’s what I meant to reply.

It is, however it is complicated and not for everyone.

You can also be polygamous and bisexual too, it doesn’t make you a whore or anything.

Fact of the matter is you can do whatever the fuck you really want if you’re adults, consenting, understand the consequences, etc.

Agredco is free to have his opinion of the matter.

However this is what father Satan says:
“I allow everyone to follow the dictates of his own nature.”
From JoS:
1. All consenting sex in Satanism is free- straight, gay, bi-sexual, group sex, etc. Your sex life is your own personal business. This also includes those who choose to remain sexually inactive, or who are a-sexual. Your sex life, however you choose to live it is your own business!

 

[Alicia777]

When I first read this post I had a good laugh like some people are so funny and he really made me laugh, what a funny guy lol

 

[luis]

No. A marriage is between 2 people.

You don't want to have a marriage. You want to be a whore. I know you're a man, men can be whores too.

You are free to do this if this is what you want. It is not healthy, but it is your own choice.

Look, I'm not going to say that what I'm about to say is 100% the truth because I would need to be more close to a God to understand life better, but I want to open a discussion.
I respect what you are saying but I think you are a heterosexual male who has an easy choice on what he needs to do. For example, bisexuality exists and It's all natural as we all know, why do they have to choose a single partner? It does go against their natural inclination to like both sexes right?

And who decided that we need to have one person we love for the rest of our lives? To me it does not make sense, we have many people in our life we call friends, so why is it the natural choice to just have one partner? There are some species of animals that are not monogamous right? So really what is natural or morally right at this point?

In the Jos, it does say that people can live their sexuality as how they want unless they do things that damage children, animals, and other disgusting things. I honestly think we need to be more open-minded, things are more complicated than they seem and when most of our society is at the level of the Gods, things will be different too.

You said it's not healthy, for who exactly? If they all are okay with it why is it not healthy? Any bad things that could happen are just because society is not open to these types of things, let's be all honest here if society was open to it then everything would be fine.

 

[Alicia777]

Spoiler: Warning: Sexual Description

Oh, I take care of myself, sometimes I do myself a prostate massage and stroke my head, saying how cool and beloved I am.

I thought about it and decided that what I really want is group sex with a lot of partners who also love me, something else marries many people at once and lives in a community of super sex.

Are you alright to write all of this here? sorry to say but it’s sick what you are saying and you have no shame! Why don’t you keep your perverted sick thinking thoughts to yourself and not make a spectacle out of yourself! SMH I’m embarrassed for you!

 

[Isothemides]

I really want is group sex with a lot of partners who also love me, something else marries many people at once and lives in a community of super sex.

I can see how this is your way of trying to compensate for inner lacks, you say you want partners, but why? So they can fill your gaps.
This kind of way of coping is very dangerous to your development as you don't focus on yourself but focus on escaping responsibility.
You shouldn't be ashamed, you should just realize that it's your subconscious way of escapism and work towards facing yourself and your past traumas.
As always, many will frown from me suggesting this but I do think that therapy can help; it's not an "occult" issue, its a personal issue.

To anyone else watching the thread, make sure to see people from a more holistic perspective.
Everyone has their own reasons for acting the way they act and thinking the way they think.

 

[MercuryWisdom]

Are you alright to write all of this here? sorry to say but it’s sick what you are saying and you have no shame! Why don’t you keep your perverted sick thinking thoughts to yourself and not make a spectacle out of yourself! SMH I’m embarrassed for you!

It’s already been established that this person’s a troll. Not the first time we had someone like that.

So don’t take him very seriously, don’t feed the troll.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

Brother, you are really very kind to reply to this user and spend some of your time to help him, it is really commendable of you and I congratulate you because you deserve it. But I also wanted to tell you that the user you are replying to is a well-known troll. It's right that you know. Look what he wrote just a few days ago on this same topic:



However I don't think you "wasted your time" responding to him. Many non-trolls have asked themselves the same questions over the years, and answers like the one you gave are really helpful perspectives on the matter:


Returning to the topic, I think so. Personally I think that sex even with affection (for example between friends) is not subject to these one-to-one rules of fidelity; but with romantic love it's different because there the type of bond is exactly as you describe; something that brings two people together without “distracting deviations.”

However, even if I believe that one-to-one loyalty is not universally an obligation, you have to be careful because by accustoming your mind to a certain behavior, you bind yourself to that vision of reality and then it is difficult to escape that way of doing things, so it could happen that when you really want to have a serious relationship with someone special to you, you will make a lot of effort to readjust yourself and your behavior to the new situation. It's not impossible, but for some it could become extremely difficult.

If someone wants polygamy in my opinion they are not really wanting to build the best relationship possible with their partner. Not that it's universally wrong not to want to do something like that, it's a choice, but the basic method of any kind of serious relationship is loyalty, trust and complicity. Polygamy is the antithesis of these things. https://templeofzeus.org/Azazel_virtue_4.html

We have Gods who encourage fidelity in love. Sallos is an example.

One final note on the OP. He's one of those who has such an empty existence that even though he recognizes the universal importance of JoS (and I know he does, otherwise he wouldn't be constantly trolling this forum wasting all this time), he can't do much with the opportunity to be here and alive in this moment than to laugh alone at some stupid text he sends. Not even good at being a troll then. This isn't even trolling, it's just writing random things because, in his life, at least currently, saying random things is the maximum usefulness he will be able to achieve for himself and others.

I am always one who gives maximum trust to others and their ability to change, continuous hope in the improvement of others is one of my most important ethical values second only to constant compassion. BUT EVEN I gave up on this user. Hope should not be taken to the extreme and go against realism...

https://templeofzeus.org/Virtue_Realism.html

And you know the really "funny" (in the bad sense) thing? That he would just need to give himself a chance. Maybe meditate and study seriously for six months or something to see the difference, but he won't do that. Disturbing others by trolling is already something very stupid in itself, but not even giving yourself a chance, even just yourself in an, at least initially, selfish way, is not only stupid, but also crazy.

And I say this not for the OP, because I know very well about the OP's mental level by now, I'm not trying to waste time, I say this for all the people who maybe are new and don't know exactly what to do with their life and therefore are afraid to give themselves a chance. Love yourself and give yourself the opportunity to grow. Anubis some time ago told me with the ouija board that to advance I would have to love myself. Thinking about it, if you really care about yourself, you will want the best for yourself and take care of the things that are good for you, so you will meditate and improve.


I want you to start taking care of yourself.

I know it's a lying troll. I don't answer for him. I answer for all the people who are reading this.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

Look, I'm not going to say that what I'm about to say is 100% the truth because I would need to be more close to a God to understand life better, but I want to open a discussion.
I respect what you are saying but I think you are a heterosexual male who has an easy choice on what he needs to do. For example, bisexuality exists and It's all natural as we all know, why do they have to choose a single partner? It does go against their natural inclination to like both sexes right?

And who decided that we need to have one person we love for the rest of our lives? To me it does not make sense, we have many people in our life we call friends, so why is it the natural choice to just have one partner? There are some species of animals that are not monogamous right? So really what is natural or morally right at this point?

In the Jos, it does say that people can live their sexuality as how they want unless they do things that damage children, animals, and other disgusting things. I honestly think we need to be more open-minded, things are more complicated than they seem and when most of our society is at the level of the Gods, things will be different too.

You said it's not healthy, for who exactly? If they all are okay with it why is it not healthy? Any bad things that could happen are just because society is not open to these types of things, let's be all honest here if society was open to it then everything would be fine.

People are allowed to do this if they want. I never said that nobody is allowed to do these things. I just warn that it is harmful.

This can be seen and witnessed by looking at the people who do this. Look at the number of porn stars and prostitues who are addicted to drugs, and who end up killing themselves. There are serious spiritual and psychological problems that are developed from extreme promiscuity. You will not find a whore with 100 sexual partners who is a healthy, sane, or happy person. Even if she doesn't think it is a problem at first, she realizes the problems later.

About being bisexual. I don't see how that changes anything. I am attracted to women, and there are thousands of women who I would be attracted to, and I will not be with them all. So straight people will also experience being attracted to multiple people.

 

[Sun Squad]

I can see how this is your way of trying to compensate for inner lacks, you say you want partners, but why? So they can fill your gaps.
This kind of way of coping is very dangerous to your development as you don't focus on yourself but focus on escaping responsibility.
You shouldn't be ashamed, you should just realize that it's your subconscious way of escapism and work towards facing yourself and your past traumas.
As always, many will frown from me suggesting this but I do think that therapy can help; it's not an "occult" issue, its a personal issue.

To anyone else watching the thread, make sure to see people from a more holistic perspective.
Everyone has their own reasons for acting the way they act and thinking the way they think.

I just lack sexual affection and tenderness, I can financially support both partners. I want to feel two types of sexuality in my life. I never focus on others, it is important for me to have companions who will create a synergy of progress with me.

 

[Henu the Great]

Spoiler: Warning: Sexual Description

Oh, I take care of myself, sometimes I do myself a prostate massage and stroke my head, saying how cool and beloved I am.

I thought about it and decided that what I really want is group sex with a lot of partners who also love me, something else marries many people at once and lives in a community of super sex.

You do not know yourself well enough to know what you need (yet) and this is why you are so confused and want these things.

Perhaps you could set aside some time every day to start and maintain the process that enables you to learn knowledge presented by JoS and to practice Spiritual Satanism in general. Because asking strangers questions like this is so far out there that you need someone else to tell you that your priorities are not set straight at the moment.

 

[luis]

People are allowed to do this if they want. I never said that nobody is allowed to do these things. I just warn that it is harmful.

This can be seen and witnessed by looking at the people who do this. Look at the number of porn stars and prostitues who are addicted to drugs, and who end up killing themselves. There are serious spiritual and psychological problems that are developed from extreme promiscuity. You will not find a whore with 100 sexual partners who is a healthy, sane, or happy person. Even if she doesn't think it is a problem at first, she realizes the problems later.

About being bisexual. I don't see how that changes anything. I am attracted to women, and there are thousands of women who I would be attracted to, and I will not be with them all. So straight people will also experience being attracted to multiple people.

How is it harmful? And I never talked about being a "whore", just two partners. I made the example about bisexuality because the OP talked about a husband and a wife. And I know you don't have to be bisexual to want more partners but I do think a lot of bisexuals do miss the other gender while they are in a relationship with one person. It's completely natural, some do not miss it that much and some do, this could be fixed by allowing an open relationship or just two partners.

HP Pythia did talk about prostitution as a good thing. I'm sure we can find the posts. She said it's needed in our society. So is it that bad? Again, how is it harmful? I think pornstars are a different situation, it's very stressful to be one, and drugs are a thing they are offered probably from the start. I think moderation is the key here, like almost everything in life. I don't see how it could affect me that bad having sex with 100 people.

I think our society right now is just broken from the start, a Zevism advancing spiritually is different than a normal person. I would not have two partners right now because our society does not accept it at all unless you live in the most liberal cities in the US. Where I live this is not accepted and being gay or bi is already not totally accepted too. What I would do is just find a good compatible partner right now and that is it. Maybe someone who will allow a more open relationship if it is needed. If in the future our society changes then it will be easier.

 

[MercuryWisdom]

Both of you ignore his point about the pair bonding mechanism, and what are you even talking about? A hundred years ago Europe (and actually the whole Western world, colonies included) were as Christian as it gets...

“Pair bonding mechanism” doesn’t seem like a real thing to me. Just sounds like paranoia.

If you have multiple relationships with good people and you love each other and are understanding/consenting to your dynamic. What exactly is a “pair bonding mechanism”?

You’re also ignoring that Pharoahs, Zevism, WW2 regime, The Gods, many are polygamous.

Also yes I’m aware that a hundred years ago Europe or otherwise were xians, that’s what I’m saying I’m criticizing people who think it was such a golden age, when it was a shit show.

Westerns are so sick of wokeness that even Islam seems like such good “values” to them or whatever.

 

[MercuryWisdom]

Both of you ignore his point about the pair bonding mechanism, and what are you even talking about? A hundred years ago Europe (and actually the whole Western world, colonies included) were as Christian as it gets...

“Pair bonding mechanism” doesn’t seem like a real thing to me. Just sounds like paranoia.

If you have multiple relationships with good people and you love each other and are understanding/consenting to your dynamic. What exactly is a “pair bonding mechanism”?

You’re also ignoring that Pharoahs, Zevism, WW2 regime, The Gods, many are polygamous.

Also yes I’m aware that a hundred years ago Europe or otherwise were xians, that’s what I’m saying I’m criticizing people who think it was such a golden age, when it was a shit show.

Westerns are so sick of wokeness that even Islam seems like such good “values” to them or whatever.

I’m also not saying just because you’re polygamous you should have a thousand+ partners or have a “gotta catch them all” mindset.

However you can have what you want, if you’re wanted back.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

Having multiple partners just does not work in practice. I have never heard an example where this has no problems, and is sustainable for years with everybody being happy. There might be a few examples of this, but I just never heard of it. But there are hundreds of examples of where this destroys the relationship. When they go to an "open relationship" that is almost always leading to the end of the relationship within the next few months or less. Look at the famous examples of Destiny, Sneako, and Adam 22. All of them horribly regret this.

I said there could be an extremely small number of people where this could possibly work. I didn't say it is absolutely impossible. But in 99.999% of times, it ends up being a bad idea. And the problem is that something which might actually work perfectly for 500 people, is being told that it's the right thing to do for all 8 Billion people.


Yes, in WWII Germany, there was strong encouragement to have multiple wives. But the reason for this was because such an enormously large percentage of their population was killed in WWI. This was a desperate action for desperate reasons, to try to have as many children as possible as quickly as possible so their population could be rebuilt. Read High Priest Zevios Metathronos's new post today talking about how different political ideas or actions are in the context of what the situation was at that time, and just because something was a good solution for a specific reason in a specific time, does not mean that it is a good thing in general in all times.


What High Priestess Pythia wrote about prostitution is that having no sex at all is also harmful for most or many people. So prostitution is a way for this to be done, for men who are unable to form a relationship and unable to get this the healthy way. Which could give them some relief, and it has been seen that this can lower the amount of things like rape because they have a better outlet. This again is a way to try to provide a temporary solution for what is really a larger problem. And some women will want to be prostitutes because this is in their past life history, and the damage of destroying the pair bonding mechanism has already been done.

In a perfect world where all people are spiritually and karmically healthy, there would not be so many of these problems in relationships and all people would be able to live in the perfectly happy and healthy way. What exists currently in this world is most people have been previously harmed and damaged in some amount, and this makes it very difficult for them to now have a better life.

 

[Baalzebub666]

Your choice your will.

Hail Satan!

 

[Sun Squad]

Having multiple partners just does not work in practice. I have never heard an example where this has no problems, and is sustainable for years with everybody being happy. There might be a few examples of this, but I just never heard of it. But there are hundreds of examples of where this destroys the relationship. When they go to an "open relationship" that is almost always leading to the end of the relationship within the next few months or less. Look at the famous examples of Destiny, Sneako, and Adam 22. All of them horribly regret this.

I said there could be an extremely small number of people where this could possibly work. I didn't say it is absolutely impossible. But in 99.999% of times, it ends up being a bad idea. And the problem is that something which might actually work perfectly for 500 people, is being told that it's the right thing to do for all 8 Billion people.


Yes, in WWII Germany, there was strong encouragement to have multiple wives. But the reason for this was because such an enormously large percentage of their population was killed in WWI. This was a desperate action for desperate reasons, to try to have as many children as possible as quickly as possible so their population could be rebuilt. Read High Priest Zevios Metathronos's new post today talking about how different political ideas or actions are in the context of what the situation was at that time, and just because something was a good solution for a specific reason in a specific time, does not mean that it is a good thing in general in all times.


What High Priestess Pythia wrote about prostitution is that having no sex at all is also harmful for most or many people. So prostitution is a way for this to be done, for men who are unable to form a relationship and unable to get this the healthy way. Which could give them some relief, and it has been seen that this can lower the amount of things like rape because they have a better outlet. This again is a way to try to provide a temporary solution for what is really a larger problem. And some women will want to be prostitutes because this is in their past life history, and the damage of destroying the pair bonding mechanism has already been done.

In a perfect world where all people are spiritually and karmically healthy, there would not be so many of these problems in relationships and all people would be able to live in the perfectly happy and healthy way. What exists currently in this world is most people have been previously harmed and damaged in some amount, and this makes it very difficult for them to now have a better life.

And what do you think about Hetaira in Ancient Greece? We Slavs have a proverb "big women for work, and small ones for love"

 

[MercuryWisdom]

Another very successful trolling by Sun Squad.

He literally propositioned for a "cute girl" on the teen forums how that alone wasn't an instant ban is beyond me, to be honest how that was even allowed to be posted is also beyond me.

Every post is some absurdist bullshit that somehow pulls in reply after reply, and seeing as he has already tried to target the young girls of our community I do have to question the purpose of letting this continue.

How a community that sees so much can't recognize a bisexual, asexual, trans, might just might be bullshitting is once more beyond me and if it is known then why is it still happening?

Just ban him and going forward don't let people post "looking for girlfriend" posts on the Teens forums, this isnt the fucking catholic church, such things should not be tolerated even once.

We’re aware he’s a troll. No one cares about him in this thread.

We’re just speaking on some issues.

Regarding the “looking for girlfriend” especially in the teen forums, I used to do that more than once haha. You can’t expect teenagers to know better no? We shouldn’t ban just about anybody, instead advice them and guide them, if they are trolls, so what? New people will read your replies for years to come too.

Don’t get too upset about trolls, after a while you’ll learn to enjoy them haha. Don’t let the enemy get to you.