Brothers and Sisters,
I was in the Undernet lurking among the Enemy. When I finally left I realized what it was that needed breaking in these individuals.
Faith. Break their faith and expose their god for what he really is.
Of course that's what the HP's have been telling us all along so this might be a bit redundant.
Hope it helps.
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"faith" is...
... the opiate the keeps the masses firmly within religion's evil grasp.
You can't reason with them.
You can't truly debate with them.
You can't even prove them wrong.
You can't even agree to disagree with them, because views color thoughts, spawn actions and words.
Who is "them"? The monotheists. The catholics. The protestants. The muslims. The jews.
Even if YOU disagree with what the "believer" thinks, you still have to put up with their delusion, which affects everything that they do towards you and the rest of the world.
And it's all because of the "faith" that these masses have in their false gods.
Normally: in order to changes someone's mind, and thus their view, is to naturally present your argument as best you can and get them to see as you do, and thus enlighten them to yet another way of seeing things. There is in this instance an exchange of ideas and real communication. Usually there can be a compromise. If the other person is wrong there is a way to demonstrate the wrongness of the view and thus the other person can be enlightened to the error.
With "faith": there can be no such process.
1=2
End of story. Inequality. Neither party is on the same level as the other, and the believer is superior to the unbeliever because god or allah said so.
The problem with "faith" is that there is no middle proving ground to the believer. Because they believe and have faith, they are automatically right and thus everyone else who doesn't believe that was is automatically wrong. Everything in life is held in this light. "god" did it. It's because of "god".
There is no way to deal with someone so held in delusion. No amount of logic can change their minds because their minds are firmly held by a delusion. No amount of arguing and no amount of debate can change the mind of someone who clings so firmly to "faith".
"faith", my fellow unfaithful, is why their religions are so maddening. There is no logic. "god" is right because he just is. And if you can't get that then you're going to burn in hell. And that kind of "thinking" just pisses me off.
Thus I bid you, fellow unbelievers, take nothing on faith. Demand proof and logic, demand discourse and controversy. Demand that the other party prove they're right. Demand all this and accept nothing that isn't proven beyond a reasonable doubt. Demand that the other party show where they're coming from and why you should believe them.
If we as unbelievers don't take our stand and commit ourselves to the preservation of logic and sanity, who will?
Who will keep the engine of human progress going when everyone else succumbs to the delusion of religion and mass stupidity?
If no one else then it has to be us.
I was in the Undernet lurking among the Enemy. When I finally left I realized what it was that needed breaking in these individuals.
Faith. Break their faith and expose their god for what he really is.
Of course that's what the HP's have been telling us all along so this might be a bit redundant.
Hope it helps.
***
"faith" is...
... the opiate the keeps the masses firmly within religion's evil grasp.
You can't reason with them.
You can't truly debate with them.
You can't even prove them wrong.
You can't even agree to disagree with them, because views color thoughts, spawn actions and words.
Who is "them"? The monotheists. The catholics. The protestants. The muslims. The jews.
Even if YOU disagree with what the "believer" thinks, you still have to put up with their delusion, which affects everything that they do towards you and the rest of the world.
And it's all because of the "faith" that these masses have in their false gods.
Normally: in order to changes someone's mind, and thus their view, is to naturally present your argument as best you can and get them to see as you do, and thus enlighten them to yet another way of seeing things. There is in this instance an exchange of ideas and real communication. Usually there can be a compromise. If the other person is wrong there is a way to demonstrate the wrongness of the view and thus the other person can be enlightened to the error.
With "faith": there can be no such process.
1=2
End of story. Inequality. Neither party is on the same level as the other, and the believer is superior to the unbeliever because god or allah said so.
The problem with "faith" is that there is no middle proving ground to the believer. Because they believe and have faith, they are automatically right and thus everyone else who doesn't believe that was is automatically wrong. Everything in life is held in this light. "god" did it. It's because of "god".
There is no way to deal with someone so held in delusion. No amount of logic can change their minds because their minds are firmly held by a delusion. No amount of arguing and no amount of debate can change the mind of someone who clings so firmly to "faith".
"faith", my fellow unfaithful, is why their religions are so maddening. There is no logic. "god" is right because he just is. And if you can't get that then you're going to burn in hell. And that kind of "thinking" just pisses me off.
Thus I bid you, fellow unbelievers, take nothing on faith. Demand proof and logic, demand discourse and controversy. Demand that the other party prove they're right. Demand all this and accept nothing that isn't proven beyond a reasonable doubt. Demand that the other party show where they're coming from and why you should believe them.
If we as unbelievers don't take our stand and commit ourselves to the preservation of logic and sanity, who will?
Who will keep the engine of human progress going when everyone else succumbs to the delusion of religion and mass stupidity?
If no one else then it has to be us.
