OttoHart
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I've meditated on math conceptually, as many great philosophers or spiritual personalities were mathematicians. So I wanted to write a post with my thoughts on it.
Mathematics cannot be touched, seen, or heard. It exists in no physical form. Numbers are simply a conceptual thing.
You can theoretically count a few apples, but the fact that you even chose to count "apples" instead of fragments of an apple tree, or individual atoms, is based on your own human perspective. So, math only exists in the math.
Yet it explains the physical universe down to its atoms and galaxies. Both atoms and planets interact based on principles that can be explained via numbers. So numbers as concepts already exist outside of us. We do not invent math, we discover it. It is not a tool crafted by the mind, but a truth accessed by it.
If mathematics contains infinite information, as it clearly does, with endless numbers, patterns, and relationships, then it can't originate from a finite universe. Concepts like π, with its infinite digits, and the Mandelbrot Set, with its infinite, self-generating complexity, exist beyond the bounds of material space and time, yet still exist in that we can compare them to things that exist, and they affect things that exist. They are supernatural (outside of physical existence) patterns that affect the natural world.
So, mathematics exists outside of time and matter, but still defines and interacts with both, so it must have a different origin.
This origin has to be:
- eternal, as mathematics exists regardless of time
- beyond the physical, as mathematics exists regardless of space
- supremely rational, as mathematics rationally explains all of existence
This is the Logos, the knowledge of the Divine Mind. These fundamental laws are under the power of Zeus.
Mathematics cannot be touched, seen, or heard. It exists in no physical form. Numbers are simply a conceptual thing.
You can theoretically count a few apples, but the fact that you even chose to count "apples" instead of fragments of an apple tree, or individual atoms, is based on your own human perspective. So, math only exists in the math.
Yet it explains the physical universe down to its atoms and galaxies. Both atoms and planets interact based on principles that can be explained via numbers. So numbers as concepts already exist outside of us. We do not invent math, we discover it. It is not a tool crafted by the mind, but a truth accessed by it.
If mathematics contains infinite information, as it clearly does, with endless numbers, patterns, and relationships, then it can't originate from a finite universe. Concepts like π, with its infinite digits, and the Mandelbrot Set, with its infinite, self-generating complexity, exist beyond the bounds of material space and time, yet still exist in that we can compare them to things that exist, and they affect things that exist. They are supernatural (outside of physical existence) patterns that affect the natural world.
So, mathematics exists outside of time and matter, but still defines and interacts with both, so it must have a different origin.
This origin has to be:
- eternal, as mathematics exists regardless of time
- beyond the physical, as mathematics exists regardless of space
- supremely rational, as mathematics rationally explains all of existence
This is the Logos, the knowledge of the Divine Mind. These fundamental laws are under the power of Zeus.