Help regarding trance state.

[Kristjan Ojamets]

I have read everything i have found about the Trance state even the recent sermon but i have a few questions about it.

1. This is how i imagine a trance state : You can't feel your body completly and can't move it aka body paralyze OR you can't feel your body but you can move it at any time at will. Which one is correct?

2. The 3rd eye gets more active during a trance state and a if you let your body do as it wants and ignore it , i can feel and hear the spine starting to move my body a bit backwards , which in the end i have to focus on keeping straight otherwise i fall flat down.

Hail Father Satan!
Hail Haures!

 

[HPS Lydia]

There are different levels of trance, for the very deep level you can't feel your body at all, but I can go into a light trance, do void meditation, and walk somewhere all at the same time. Don't think it's something very advanced or difficult, or that you need to be 'paralyzed'.

And about the 3rd eye, it will get more active if you are focusing on it. If I'm in trance and doing some other meditation, such as invoking elements, my 3rd eye really doesn't matter here. I'm not using it, I don't need to. I'm focusing on the feelings, not trying to see astrally.

I'm going to go ahead and say you're thinking about the trance too much while in it. Why not do something while in trance, and focus on the meditation, instead of being in an "empty" or "void" trance, for lack of better wording. You're focusing too much on how the trance feels, when in reality, it's just a trance. No big deal. Kind of like sleeping, your subconscious isn't thinking "so this is how sleep feels". It's just doing it. So, just relax somewhere, and maybe focus on feeling a color in your aura (evoking the color). Use light blue, for calmness/serenity. It should help you get into a deeper trance, without you over-thinking it. Don't think about what your body is doing, just *feel* your energy, and when you come out of it, you'll know if you were in a trance.

Hail Satan!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Kristjan Ojamets" <manraynor@... wrote:

I have read everything i have found about the Trance state even the recent sermon but i have a few questions about it.

1. This is how i imagine a trance state : You can't feel your body completly and can't move it aka body paralyze OR you can't feel your body but you can move it at any time at will. Which one is correct?

2. The 3rd eye gets more active during a trance state and a if you let your body do as it wants and ignore it , i can feel and hear the spine starting to move my body a bit backwards , which in the end i have to focus on keeping straight otherwise i fall flat down.

Hail Father Satan!
Hail Haures!

 

[Priestess Atheron]

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High Priestess Atheron of the Joy of Satan Ministries
www.JoyOfSatan.com
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HAIL SATAN!
HAIL ALL THE GODS OF DUAT!
HAIL ASTAROTH!
From: Kristjan Ojamets <manraynor@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 3:10 AM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Help regarding trance state.

  I have read everything i have found about the Trance state even the recent sermon but i have a few questions about it.

1. This is how i imagine a trance state : You can't feel your body completly and can't move it aka body paralyze OR you can't feel your body but you can move it at any time at will. Which one is correct?

2. The 3rd eye gets more active during a trance state and a if you let your body do as it wants and ignore it , i can feel and hear the spine starting to move my body a bit backwards , which in the end i have to focus on keeping straight otherwise i fall flat down.

Hail Father Satan!
Hail Haures!

 

[Kristjan Ojamets]

Well the chair might be working , i had a big REM moment for about a minute before it stopped.

But i have had the falling effect done in my mind, everytime i do it , it starts really hard to breathe , like my lungs are heavy. It's the feeling if you fall you hold your breath or similar and when i try to release the breath and continue falling again , the effect goes away and i have to redo it and mostly it never gets any further.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Priestess Atheron <priestessatheron@... wrote:

You can move anytime at free will, but it might give you a headache if you jerk out of trance. You need to move out of trance slowly.
 
You might want to try a chair with a back to it or prop pillows, something to help you hold yourself upright if you are sitting so you can focus on your meditations instead of your body.

Sincerely,


High Priestess Atheron of the Joy of Satan Ministries
www.JoyOfSatan.com
wwww.exposingchristianity.com


HAIL SATAN!
HAIL ALL THE GODS OF DUAT!
HAIL ASTAROTH!

From: Kristjan Ojamets <manraynor@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 3:10 AM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Help regarding trance state.


 
I have read everything i have found about the Trance state even the recent sermon but i have a few questions about it.

1. This is how i imagine a trance state : You can't feel your body completly and can't move it aka body paralyze OR you can't feel your body but you can move it at any time at will. Which one is correct?

2. The 3rd eye gets more active during a trance state and a if you let your body do as it wants and ignore it , i can feel and hear the spine starting to move my body a bit backwards , which in the end i have to focus on keeping straight otherwise i fall flat down.

Hail Father Satan!
Hail Haures!

 

[Kristjan Ojamets]

1 more thing to add :

Just now when i did another meditation round after the main one for the day , i saw like a "Black hole" forming infront of my vision for a bit when i was doing my protection aura meditation again.
Looking it up some people say it might have been a path to your Pineal gland , but i want some expert Satanists view on this.

Thanks infront

Hail Satan! Hail Haures!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Priestess Atheron <priestessatheron@... wrote:

You can move anytime at free will, but it might give you a headache if you jerk out of trance. You need to move out of trance slowly.
 
You might want to try a chair with a back to it or prop pillows, something to help you hold yourself upright if you are sitting so you can focus on your meditations instead of your body.

Sincerely,


High Priestess Atheron of the Joy of Satan Ministries
www.JoyOfSatan.com
wwww.exposingchristianity.com


HAIL SATAN!
HAIL ALL THE GODS OF DUAT!
HAIL ASTAROTH!

From: Kristjan Ojamets <manraynor@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 3:10 AM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Help regarding trance state.


 
I have read everything i have found about the Trance state even the recent sermon but i have a few questions about it.

1. This is how i imagine a trance state : You can't feel your body completly and can't move it aka body paralyze OR you can't feel your body but you can move it at any time at will. Which one is correct?

2. The 3rd eye gets more active during a trance state and a if you let your body do as it wants and ignore it , i can feel and hear the spine starting to move my body a bit backwards , which in the end i have to focus on keeping straight otherwise i fall flat down.

Hail Father Satan!
Hail Haures!