The Gods #77462 Faith is dying

[AskSatanOperator]

Hello, im a satanist from many years (3), last times i started to think more about my path and my past. I started to doubt Gods, i mean here not their existence because im sure about their existence, im also sure about meditations etc. Im not cure about their intentions. For these 3 years i was asking for one proof of their existence - move the candle. They didnt moved it till today. but i would forget about thing like 'ehh i still know they exist so who cares about such a stupid thing as moving a candle?' but there is another thing. SOOO I fell in love like month ago, after like 2 weeks after i fell i love i asked my GD Astarte (i know about tarot and pndulum, know how to use and interpret and i have good experience with it.) about this love etc, do she loves me, after some questions we have a conclussion: she loves me, she knows she loves me and i have to wait for a deeper talk, tell her i love her and we will be in relationship and it had to happen lsat week.

It happened last week, but it was completly other thing. I was talking with her, told her (it wasnt random) i love her and asked her if she loves me too. She told no. And she even told me before - she.is.not.able.to.love.someone.because.of.his.past.and.she.have.mental.problems etc just not able to love. Why did she lied on me? Also, she never helps me to stand up... i dont really feel her love or her help i feel she completly dont care about me like she dont believe in me, my succes... I never felt help or closeness from any God. It seems completly other than ToZ says it is, you say its like they are helping, caring, always prove their existence etc.

And please dont treat it as attack, its not, im just kinda lost satanist and need help not hate. Thanks for your time and advices.

 

[-Honestus-]

If you are really serious and not trolling, I can say that you don't communicate with Queen Aphrodite. If your GD hated you, she wouldn't be your GD. And there is no reason for Mother to hate you if you are respectful.

 

[DarkPagan666]

Our Gods and Goddesses will not move objects on command to prove their existence. The Earth is already filled with evidence, or proof, such as monumental structures that defy modern technology and understanding. These wonders are living proof of their presence. ToZ, too, have all the proof needed of their existence.

Regarding your divination experience, you have likely been misled, either through self-delusion or enemy interference. It happens. Acknowledge it, learn from it, and move forward.

If you truly seek connection with them, begin your spiritual advancement by integrating Meditation and Yoga into your daily life. Be steadfast and consistent. True growth comes through experience, not dependency.

Our Gods and Goddesses expect us to grow and become self-reliant. They won’t do the work for us, but they will guide us, showing us the way, just as a wise parent teaches their child to stand on their own, or shows their child how to fish, rather than feeding them for life. Just like a teacher who guides their students rather than solves every problem for them, they encourage us to learn, evolve, and rise on our own.

Just two days ago, Mother Lilith reached out to me, because I am steadfast on the Great Path. In short, be determined and never give up. You will get there, eventually.

 

[Ĥl·lĥæ]

That's normal for me.
Look at life as always being alone.
If something good is going to happen, it's going to happen anyway.
Just as misfortune in our lives happens regardless of what thought (positive or negative) we have.

Continue your meditations so that at the end of your life you have no doubts about whether this path could have worked.
Seriously, this is much worse than giving up and accepting the words of others as correct, such as "You didn't succeed because you didn't do it.
Do everything and as much as you need to do along the way.

 

[Zombieboy]

Please stick with meditation and continuing to work on your soul, In the beginning it is easy to have doubts , our own mind and outside interference can affect any communication we seek in the beginning .
It is not realistic to ask the Gods to move a candle to prove themselves to you.
I would advise you keep a journal, and write down times where you feel the Gods have helped or blessed you in some way.
Or even better reflect in this journal how your life may have improved over the past 3 years since dedicating .
It is likely that if you never felt helped by the Gods, that you are truly not looking at all the right things.
Take it slow and work on progression first.

I would also like to point out somthing I seen in a picture ..

This picture was in an enemy context but the idea is important.

I believe it was their “God” and he was shielding a man from a bunch of arrows, and getting pierced by some of them,
but those arrows were invisible so the man couldn’t see them, he was hit by one of the arrows but spared the rest,
but he felt as if nobody was helping or protecting him because he got hit by the single arrow.
He didn’t know all the things that he was being protected from. Because he couldn’t see them

I try to keep a similar idea in mind, and be sure to thank the Gods not just for the help I know I received but for all the things I may have missed.

I would instead ask the Gods to help guide you to more knowledge and assist in opening up your soul so you may better receive their guidance and their wisdom .

As for the girl, she could be hiding her love and intentions for you.
Or maybe she simply isn’t the one.
From the sound of it I don’t think your divination was accurate or that your communicating with the Gods as effectively as you may think. These things take a lot of work to master, try and be objective and take experiences with a grain of salt until it is truly mastered. And take more time to open yourself up to the gods, try and do more rituals or meditate on their sigils, not always with the intention of asking a lot of questions, but to build a relationship and feel their energy. And if you seek guidance and ask questions, look for coincidences and signs and things like that and be patient , direct communication is harder to read and not as common in the beginning .
There are threads here about communicating and seeking guidance from the gods for beginners . If you have trouble finding them I can link them for you
Good luck on your journey and Heil Zeus

 

[Hárbarðr]

I agree with what others said, and I even doubt Astarte is your GD. Just like the conversation you mentioned was a subconscious projection, so does the idea that she is your GD.

Too many common and insignificant people claim to have high ranking Gods as their GD's. Don't you think these Gods are the busiest and most important and only guide the people most important to them and their cause? If HP Hoodedcobra or Lydia or Maxine said they have Astarte as their GD is normal and make sense as they're important people. But for her to guard a common person who is just interested in everyday selfish things like you seem to do (from your post, you didn't mention anything you are contributing to the cause, only your personal love problems) is highly unlikely.

 

[Hárbarðr]

Too many common and insignificant people claim to have high ranking Gods as their GD's.

I did a fun comparison. Picked Barbatos as he is a lesser-ranking, lesser-known Demon and compared him with Astarte to find how many people have them as their GDs in these forums. Searched for "Barbatos GD" and "Barbatos Guardian Demon". Only one person ever claimed that Barbatos is his GD:

Guardian Demon

For anyone worrying about who their Guardian Demon is, don't worry What I did was focus on Satan's Sigil and then ask/focus on my Guardian Demon. I just affirmed whilst focusing on Satan's Sigil ''My Guardian Demon'' and after a while I now was contacted by my Guardian Barbatos. His energy and...

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By contrast, I only searched for "Astaroth GD" to find more than 10 people who claimed Astarte is their GD. In some threads, 2 or 3 people at once claim she is their GD:

Search results for query: astaroth gd

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And I've not even searched for "Astarte GD" or "Astarte Guardian Demon" or "Astaroth Guardian Demon", there must be more than 20-30 people in total claiming she's their GD.

That means most of them subconsciously want her to be their GD so whatever they using to find their GD got influenced by their subconscious. This should not be happening if it all those people found who their real GD is.

 

[AFODO]

You are deceiving yourself with your pendulum, do not rely on the information you got trough your pendulum.
What have you done for the Gods, for yourself and for others in this 3 years?
In ancient times average people would get 1 mayor experience with them in their life time and it's more then enough.
You'll never experience them if you sit idly and never do any ritual or praying, or things like this. The more excellent initiate are you of them, the more attention they'll give you.
The fact that you never experienced them should tell you that you are doing something wrong, and you should change. Implement God rituals in your weekly or even daily schedule. Pray each and every day to Zeus, and meditate. Open up your soul in front of them and open up to their sigil. Try doing something for other Zevists and contribution to the ToZ.

Good luck!

 

[Recycler1337]

In my personal experience - I have noticed that Gods and simply Mantic without their intervention - very fond of giving “Positive” predictions. It's better anyway.