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Doing God rituals can give many benefits to both the people doing them, but also the ToZ community as a whole. When we have schedules that are given to us by the Clergy, it is usually for the advancement of the community as certain Gods can give certain things. On a personal level, doing God rituals gives you an opportunity to feel the energy of the Gods, to really take time out of your life to sit and just feel the connection. Many times, through God rituals one may find there GD (guardian Demon) and/or ask respectfully for help from a God.
The Gods are very advanced and individually they will not have any so called "benefit" from you doing their ritual (aside from you and the God establishing a connection). When there is a schedule, we as a community show our respect to the God or Gods and this in return gives us blessings to the community.
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Regarding God Rituals
A few things have been brought to our attention, and need to be cleared up. 1. God rituals are to be done for a purpose. They are not to be spammed for no reason. This is like making a telephone call to someone important then immediately hanging up the phone when they answer. If you have a...
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A lot of high concepts I don't understand but to put it plainly first of God's have been doing this for a while and thus each of the rituals correspond to a part of our soul that they themselves have chosen to rule over and understand quite well. They are like Guardian Gods over these forces and while they are not singular they are angular/connective to others.
The ritual has layers, you and me can NOT do a Zeus ritual and fully understand it. A guardian does it, or one of the High Priests, and it is beyond as magical as is it for us because knowing and intensions are magical in percussive force. If I don't know to burn the butter a bit I get less depth of flavor but the instructions only told me about the butter because the deeper layers of being a student is being able to read between the lines: aka the whole point of a Gods ritual is to study them their Gods and the eternal forces they represent.
To give an easy one that isn't telling because it's outright spoken, ZEUS IS GOD AND GOD IS THE SELF, Thus the highest form of self is to be like Zeus. Zeus = solar/crown/venus chakra because he connecting into a capstone of the perfect number with forceful momentum behind it. All is one, one is all; and as such it's our awareness that needs expansion because that brings pain suffering and transfiguration to us all.
The greatest of people have suffered the most hardening of losses yet they carry on, and thus do the God's love them; for like can only know like. This is what the Clergy wants of us, each, to break down into nothingness and have to rebuild from the broken ashes of failure in darkness, making our own light to shine the way just as those above us do: for the Gods only deliver what Entropy/the justice of Sayta, demands.
They literally know you burning alive is for your own Good because YOU caused it and just like we tell children only do what you wanna do but we hold us all, each, accountable given we refuse to let go of others failures. Though that is also the difference in level, the priesthood has no want to see you do anything but have wins yet they know the losses teach you more than words could. For when we revert into childishness we lose the freedom that only in maturity we find the wings to soar the heavens seven manifold gambit.
You think this path will solve everything but Hps Lydia needed lazer eye surgery and the fact is most would say "WhY DiDnt zEUs fIX IT foR YoU!?" but literally THAT IS THE POINT!!! They love a High Priest, a savor of their children, ( a great Sister to us all for we only give birth to know that the Gods suffer and thus no parent can be human outside of what is needed to know about the gods ) but they would never disrespect her by fixing all her problems for her. You ever met a cripple, a real honest to Gods can't walk chair bound person? Aren't they super proud and get pissy you tried to do something for them THEY CAN DO just fine if you didn't judge? Yeah they Gods are like that but ultra knowing.
Concept that is hard is they "can" see you at all times, but do not judge you over more for your vulgarity. I often have found myself of late upset any time I'm nude, not because I'm ashamed, but because it feels improper to the Gods. Sure if I'm taking a shower and you wanna view me... I'm sorry for that's on you/ the Gods do not judge us in weakness/failure for they love us enough to know why it happens; but like doing Yoga nude, or meditation/ even reading the site ( even though its hot ) I feel wrong over it. I would say a saving grace is "it's hot" by wtf don't I have things set up that doesn't matter? Sure they are glad I do things but the Good does NOT wash out the bad, nor the bad the good.
If Hooded Cobra, started outright started being a serial killer I 100% assure you the Gods would not just damn him for his laundry list of being a saint is well: SON OF ZUES LEVEL. You get in what you pay out and this path has risks, real risks. You can vibrate mantras to literally erase yourself outta existence just as you can empower because one has nothing without the other: thus is 2 born.
I had the bitch ass thought sexuality wasn't as holy as it was because of my own issues, and that is what the rituals are for. Is this hypochondria or real failure? Are you truly in trouble or just being a baby who wants to put in no effort for all the reward? This is what's needed, JUDGEMENT. That is the fostering the Gods do for us and these rituals bring that to a had. You wanna really learn? Thoths ritual is the single best one you can do for learning and wisdom but you need Nephthys "Neptune" ( as far as I understand ) to cleanse you by showing you the coveting error of your ways. Like do you horde energy to make more greatness or only to survive? Do you seek to empower and grow or only/merely survive? This is what the Gods push of us and it's why the rituals are both Holy/Powerful yet freely given. Experiment, see, feel, learn, or fail. The Ahh is up to you because the S T N M are ready/willing/and able for your manipulation into greatness.
The ritual has layers, you and me can NOT do a Zeus ritual and fully understand it. A guardian does it, or one of the High Priests, and it is beyond as magical as is it for us because knowing and intensions are magical in percussive force. If I don't know to burn the butter a bit I get less depth of flavor but the instructions only told me about the butter because the deeper layers of being a student is being able to read between the lines: aka the whole point of a Gods ritual is to study them their Gods and the eternal forces they represent.
To give an easy one that isn't telling because it's outright spoken, ZEUS IS GOD AND GOD IS THE SELF, Thus the highest form of self is to be like Zeus. Zeus = solar/crown/venus chakra because he connecting into a capstone of the perfect number with forceful momentum behind it. All is one, one is all; and as such it's our awareness that needs expansion because that brings pain suffering and transfiguration to us all.
The greatest of people have suffered the most hardening of losses yet they carry on, and thus do the God's love them; for like can only know like. This is what the Clergy wants of us, each, to break down into nothingness and have to rebuild from the broken ashes of failure in darkness, making our own light to shine the way just as those above us do: for the Gods only deliver what Entropy/the justice of Sayta, demands.
They literally know you burning alive is for your own Good because YOU caused it and just like we tell children only do what you wanna do but we hold us all, each, accountable given we refuse to let go of others failures. Though that is also the difference in level, the priesthood has no want to see you do anything but have wins yet they know the losses teach you more than words could. For when we revert into childishness we lose the freedom that only in maturity we find the wings to soar the heavens seven manifold gambit.
You think this path will solve everything but Hps Lydia needed lazer eye surgery and the fact is most would say "WhY DiDnt zEUs fIX IT foR YoU!?" but literally THAT IS THE POINT!!! They love a High Priest, a savor of their children, ( a great Sister to us all for we only give birth to know that the Gods suffer and thus no parent can be human outside of what is needed to know about the gods ) but they would never disrespect her by fixing all her problems for her. You ever met a cripple, a real honest to Gods can't walk chair bound person? Aren't they super proud and get pissy you tried to do something for them THEY CAN DO just fine if you didn't judge? Yeah they Gods are like that but ultra knowing.
Concept that is hard is they "can" see you at all times, but do not judge you over more for your vulgarity. I often have found myself of late upset any time I'm nude, not because I'm ashamed, but because it feels improper to the Gods. Sure if I'm taking a shower and you wanna view me... I'm sorry for that's on you/ the Gods do not judge us in weakness/failure for they love us enough to know why it happens; but like doing Yoga nude, or meditation/ even reading the site ( even though its hot ) I feel wrong over it. I would say a saving grace is "it's hot" by wtf don't I have things set up that doesn't matter? Sure they are glad I do things but the Good does NOT wash out the bad, nor the bad the good.
If Hooded Cobra, started outright started being a serial killer I 100% assure you the Gods would not just damn him for his laundry list of being a saint is well: SON OF ZUES LEVEL. You get in what you pay out and this path has risks, real risks. You can vibrate mantras to literally erase yourself outta existence just as you can empower because one has nothing without the other: thus is 2 born.
I had the bitch ass thought sexuality wasn't as holy as it was because of my own issues, and that is what the rituals are for. Is this hypochondria or real failure? Are you truly in trouble or just being a baby who wants to put in no effort for all the reward? This is what's needed, JUDGEMENT. That is the fostering the Gods do for us and these rituals bring that to a had. You wanna really learn? Thoths ritual is the single best one you can do for learning and wisdom but you need Nephthys "Neptune" ( as far as I understand ) to cleanse you by showing you the coveting error of your ways. Like do you horde energy to make more greatness or only to survive? Do you seek to empower and grow or only/merely survive? This is what the Gods push of us and it's why the rituals are both Holy/Powerful yet freely given. Experiment, see, feel, learn, or fail. The Ahh is up to you because the S T N M are ready/willing/and able for your manipulation into greatness.
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All effects that a God Ritual has (you'd get more of a specific effect depending on your intent, but all are still happening):
- you are invoking the God's energy into your being
- you are improving the connection this God has to all of humanity, but especially to Zevists
- that God's energy positively affects you, and you are blessed
- you are performing Theurgy with that God, improving the aspects that the God presides over within yourself (this is an advanced notion, and it is an esoteric experience, not possible to comprehensively explain)
- in the past, the God Rituals were also being done to reverse and clear up the effects of curses inflicted upon the Gods*. I don't know whether any still exist and affect us, but I suppose doing the God Rituals also clears that.
*the Gods can't be genuinely cursed. What was being affected was humanity's connection and closeness to the Gods.
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Exactly. It wasn't the Gods that were "bound", but humanity.
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I'm confused about that, I thought they were bound because Hps Maxine talks about having to "free" them Via Sex magick around 2004. One Demon who's wings bolted outward and another who's voice went from being hoarse to a more clear quality?
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Keep in mind that HPS Maxine was not as advanced back then as she is now. She was still discovering knowledge. The techniques she used were advanced, but she was attached to the "Satanist" identity of the former JoS. Now, she is in a much more advanced state than everyone on the Forums, and the transition to the Temple of Zeus, which was approved by HPS Maxine, shows higher wisdom that none of us have achieved yet.
In this context, "freeing" the Gods/Daemons likely means making their presence felt in the world. Which is exactly what has been happening since 2004. As for the change in their voice, this should suggest that the Gods became more clear both in HPS Maxine's mind, but also in humanity as a whole.
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The problem is related to a level of perception and “function.” It is like a “cable.” When the cable has some problem, it does not function properly. But the problem only affects the “cable.” This also brings some side effects, with the processes related to the “cable.”
When the problem is solved, the “functions” are usable again. The flow of “things” is restored and all processes are “free” to ‘restart’ and “manifest.”
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It's is mainly about your own personal power and worthiness.
I was doing God rituals every schedule we had. I was meditating on His/Her Sigil, but i wasnt meditating on myself because i didnt feel almost anything. Sometimes i had to do rituals on my toilette, because of my parents could catch me doing rituals in my room. Is something wrong if i didnt meditate on myself? I tried to help as much as i could.
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When we do God rituals we are (on a very basic level of understanding) giving and raising our energy so that we can tap into the force and energy of a certain God. After the Ritual, meditating on yourself gives you a chance to take back your energy. Rituals are very demanding and can drain ones energy pretty fast.
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