I believe you don't have something vital to focus upon. All these jargon word-fight leads us nowhere but being more confused that leaving these wars in the hands of the street and mighty. Let them settle their issues and leave we humans alone. Are you still as peep? Can't you still see your self...

It seemed you don't have better things doing.What's that. I don't know what many of us think about this organization-child's forum ?nawaa oo

You are wrong talking of your beloves during without conversion. The fact remains-many of us were born core Christians,carried it to the core.I have been a deliverance minister saw miracles true me, healed people, restored physical damaged bodies back normalcy etc etc but yet I knew somewhere...

Mage Ad,don't be offended. How can I see the Master my self and the Demons/ness as promised in us in the Initiation ritual. This is to avoid discouragement as the world of religion did to us.