The Obesity Epidemic In The West

[SShiva_fr]

The question has been asked several times and the answer should interest the SS.
Do Jupiter squares cause weight gain?

Is it mainly the spiritual squares or the material squares?

Is the statement "In a safe and healthy way for me" enough to avoid weight gain due to Jupiter energies?

Jupiter is already my Chart Ruler and I have started a series of Jupiter squares, I would really like to avoid weight gain!!

Thank you !

 

[Hp. Hoodedcobra666]

The question has been asked several times and the answer should interest the SS.
Do Jupiter squares cause weight gain?

Is it mainly the spiritual squares or the material squares?

Is the statement "In a safe and healthy way for me" enough to avoid weight gain due to Jupiter energies?

Jupiter is already my Chart Ruler and I have started a series of Jupiter squares, I would really like to avoid weight gain!!

Thank you !

Under normal circumstances, no. However, if you notice any such event and you see that it's not a theoretical but realistic knowledge, you might want to compensate with an opposite energy in meditation, such as Mars or something similar.

Unless explicitly used to increase your weight, it won't. But it might empower the placement of Jupiter in your own Chart, which, if it's for example Conjunct Moon or opposition Sun, could increase weight depending on the use of the square and if you used it directly to empower the influence of said planet natally.

It depends in simpler words on the use, but generally, no. The affirmation of healthy and positive here would safeguard from further unwanted outcomes, yes.

 

[SShiva_fr]

The question has been asked several times and the answer should interest the SS.
Do Jupiter squares cause weight gain?

Is it mainly the spiritual squares or the material squares?

Is the statement "In a safe and healthy way for me" enough to avoid weight gain due to Jupiter energies?

Jupiter is already my Chart Ruler and I have started a series of Jupiter squares, I would really like to avoid weight gain!!

Thank you !

Under normal circumstances, no. However, if you notice any such event and you see that it's not a theoretical but realistic knowledge, you might want to compensate with an opposite energy in meditation, such as Mars or something similar.

Unless explicitly used to increase your weight, it won't. But it might empower the placement of Jupiter in your own Chart, which, if it's for example Conjunct Moon or opposition Sun, could increase weight depending on the use of the square and if you used it directly to empower the influence of said planet natally.

It depends in simpler words on the use, but generally, no. The affirmation of healthy and positive here would safeguard from further unwanted outcomes, yes.

Thank you very much for your answer HP.

Haha no, I definitely don't want to gain weight. I don't know if it was HPS Maxine who wrote this but I seem to have read :
"I noticed that the ones with Jupiter as the Chart Ruler were tall and strong"
And that is perfectly the case! So no, no extra pounds!

 

[Stormblood]

I have already read multiple times on this and the russian jos forum that fasting is not healthy, which I can't agree with because - wasn't that how our ancestors lived? Weren't they eating 1-2 times a day max? I think a regular guy from 100+ years ago would be considered RIPPED by today's standarts.

It depends on what time and social class you are talking about. In the Dark Ages, most of the population was really weak and ate little because of feudalism.

Before that, it depends on where. In Ancient Egypt, most people certainly ate multiple times a day, poverty was a niche phenomenon. Similar to other cradle civilisations and before. With Greece and Rome, I wouldn't be able to say much.

We never had a hunter-gatherer stage like enemy texts suggested. Atlantis/Mu/Lemuria/Kumara Kandam was likely the first civilisation and before that there were no humans. We literally started as a Gods-led civilisation. Cavemen weren't us either, but a different species.

Your best eating schedule is genetic. There is no one-size-fits-all solution. In other words, what works for you, may not work for others.

In 2016, I made my own meal plan. Lost 2 kg every week and kept it off ever since. I wasn't exactly fat. Just a little chubby. Only had to lose 8 kg to make it to my desired weight and waist circumference. I had 5 meals a day, 3 big and 2 small ones. I did not go into any caloric deficit nor did I increase my physical activity into any way. I just stayed at maintenance and kept my earlier 4 days a week of bodyweight training. Other than going into maintenance what changed was how I organised my meals and what I ate. Nothing sci-fi. Not even any magick or specific meditation.

 

[Aquarius]

The question has been asked several times and the answer should interest the SS.
Do Jupiter squares cause weight gain?

Is it mainly the spiritual squares or the material squares?

Is the statement "In a safe and healthy way for me" enough to avoid weight gain due to Jupiter energies?

Jupiter is already my Chart Ruler and I have started a series of Jupiter squares, I would really like to avoid weight gain!!

Thank you !

I've read that it could increase your sweet tooth, during the square.

 

[EnkiUK]

This is superb HPHC

Especially like the bit about Arnie at the end, now his eating was all about discipline.


Can learn alot about healthy nutrition from bodybuilders. Just listen to that no steroids etc although most dont declare using them :lol:

Obesity is rife in Scotland also mostly in deprived areas shows up more.

 

[SShiva_fr]

The question has been asked several times and the answer should interest the SS.
Do Jupiter squares cause weight gain?

Is it mainly the spiritual squares or the material squares?

Is the statement "In a safe and healthy way for me" enough to avoid weight gain due to Jupiter energies?

Jupiter is already my Chart Ruler and I have started a series of Jupiter squares, I would really like to avoid weight gain!!

Thank you !

I've read that it could increase your sweet tooth, during the square.

Hi Aquarius!

Ah. That's annoying. But probably true: I'm fighting cravings for good food!
Fortunately, since there's not much money, the shopping is much less abundant. So it's a blessing in disguise :lol:

 

[SSinHeartandSoul]

Hello

Well, I'm not overweight like in that video, but my physical body makes me look quite old. On the street, on the street or on the road, everyone asks me "Are you a university student?" I don't look overweight because I'm 195 (length) and I don't look like obese people like in the video, but on the other hand, I'm afraid "I wonder if I am obesity" hımm I wonder if the venus square works for this?

Have a nice day ^^

If you are overweight you will need to look at your food intake and your physical state, No working will make you lose weight. Workings can help in certain ways, but you would really have to work on the physical plane to reverse your overweight problem.

Eat your food as natural as possible, avoid processed foods, and make sure that you get your needed nutrients inside of you is one of the most important steps in this. So if you want to make some changes, do some research into this.

 

[Triple Six]

Your best eating schedule is genetic. There is no one-size-fits-all solution. In other words, what works for you, may not work for others.

That is true, might not suit everyone.
However I would still recommend people try OMAD for a week or two - that shouldn't be too hard. And I can guarantee you will lose some fat - simply because you are used to eating small meals and won't be able to eat more calories than you really need.

The thing with usual diet advice "eat less, exercise more" is that it plain doesn't work for most people. Why? Because it's slow and when people don't see results of their work - they get discouraged and stop trying.

 

[EnkiUK]

If one has the time, one can understand better by looking at the SuperSizeMe documentation, it explains a lot.
(For some it may be disgusting, the equivalent of watching a man eat shit).
It shows in part that this addiction causes dysfunctions like porn.

I saw this, is this the same one as the guy eat nothing but Macdonalds for month straight.

The results were astonishing for me at that time 20

 

[Wendigo_Herder666]

The thing that I cannot stand(at least in American culture) is that when you attempt to diet people will look down on you. I used to be very overweight for my height and I began cutting most if not all sugars and carbs out of my diet after finding spiritual Satanism and leaving Christianity, I have lost all my weight and I feel better than I ever have in my entire life. But the process was difficult, I was more than willing to change my entire diet and my eating habits but nobody around me was. I came to realize I was surrounded by people heavy like me with the same cravings.

When I lost my weight everyone around me just got bigger, they got mad at me when I would turn away food or even simply saying "I'm not hungry", because I wasn't! My diet actually REDUCED my hunger to normal human levels. For alot of people they might work up the courage and go for it but those around them will pressure them into relapsing. A lot of things are wrong with modern mans mind, he is addicted to sugar and complacency, he now craves cowering in the safety of junk poisoning his body and mind but more than happy to shoot down the idea he could better himself. He fears to look back at what ancient man did and ate to survive.

If anyone reads this, when I found the true God of the Gentiles I took it upon MYSELF to make myself better. You don't have to be the perfect human, but it is important you better yourself far more important than pleasing the people around you by being like them and giving in to their habits. You will have to turn away food and offend some people, but that is not your problem, we live in a world filled with sedentary complacent people, just keep at it and inspire THEM instead to follow their path to empowerment.

It is never too late! Do not give in to the influences from the spirits in bondage around you!

Hail Satan!

 

[Henu the Great]

Your best eating schedule is genetic. There is no one-size-fits-all solution. In other words, what works for you, may not work for others.

That is true, might not suit everyone.
However I would still recommend people try OMAD for a week or two - that shouldn't be too hard. And I can guarantee you will lose some fat - simply because you are used to eating small meals and won't be able to eat more calories than you really need.

The thing with usual diet advice "eat less, exercise more" is that it plain doesn't work for most people. Why? Because it's slow and when people don't see results of their work - they get discouraged and stop trying.

I don't see how that approach would work for anyone who uses carbs as their main source of fuel instead of fats and goes above certain amount of calories per day (2000 - 3000 range).

It could work for those who are less active and/or use fats as their main fuel source. That is, Ketosis. This would require specific low carbohydrate diet however.

Personally I would not want to go through such torture, but anyone who has had or is having weight issues could benefit from this in conjunction with low key exercise regiment. Going above certain level however, it becomes more or less neccessary to eat multiple times a day.

 

[Stormblood]

Your best eating schedule is genetic. There is no one-size-fits-all solution. In other words, what works for you, may not work for others.

That is true, might not suit everyone.
However I would still recommend people try OMAD for a week or two - that shouldn't be too hard. And I can guarantee you will lose some fat - simply because you are used to eating small meals and won't be able to eat more calories than you really need.

The thing with usual diet advice "eat less, exercise more" is that it plain doesn't work for most people. Why? Because it's slow and when people don't see results of their work - they get discouraged and stop trying.

I don't see how that approach would work for anyone who uses carbs as their main source of fuel instead of fats and goes above certain amount of calories per day (2000 - 3000 range).

It could work for those who are less active and/or use fats as their main fuel source. That is, Ketosis. This would require specific low carbohydrate diet however.

Personally I would not want to go through such torture, but anyone who has had or is having weight issues could benefit from this in conjunction with low key exercise regiment. Going above certain level however, it becomes more or less neccessary to eat multiple times a day.

I doubt it's even possible for many people to eat enough calories on OMAD, unless they are gorging on desserts and other non-filling foods. People's stomach have a certain capacity. For example, I can barely eat half a pizza without feeling overfilled.

Also, the stomach should never be filled at 100% capacity. Doing that hinders digestion and causes issues with it. Around 25% should be water before the meal, max 50% should be food, and the remaining should be left empty (air).

 

[Baron Hope Von Blossom]

Hello

Well, I'm not overweight like in that video, but my physical body makes me look quite old. On the street, on the street or on the road, everyone asks me "Are you a university student?" I don't look overweight because I'm 195 (length) and I don't look like obese people like in the video, but on the other hand, I'm afraid "I wonder if I am obesity" hımm I wonder if the venus square works for this?

Have a nice day ^^

If you are overweight you will need to look at your food intake and your physical state, No working will make you lose weight. Workings can help in certain ways, but you would really have to work on the physical plane to reverse your overweight problem.

Eat your food as natural as possible, avoid processed foods, and make sure that you get your needed nutrients inside of you is one of the most important steps in this. So if you want to make some changes, do some research into this.

Hello my dear brother

I only consume sweets as unhealthy food and ıt is very difficult to find healthy sweet food in Turkey so I buy cookies from the patisserie on my way to school, but I guess I won't buy them anymore and thank you very much for your advice.
(By unhealthy I mean unnatural)

Have a nice day ^^

 

[EnkiUK]

This is superb HPHC

Especially like the bit about Arnie at the end, now his eating was all about discipline.


Can learn alot about healthy nutrition from bodybuilders. Just listen to that no steroids etc although most dont declare using them :lol:

Obesity is rife in Scotland also mostly in deprived areas shows up more.

Do you know anythign about the Scottish wildcat?
Is the population stable, are they safe, have you ever seen one etc?,

Only at night fanboy but cant say anymore mate :lol:

 

[Pammy]

Self-starving due to the subconscious hate of being a woman is also a topic that I think should be mentioned since it has its roots in Judaism/Muslim/Christian mindset that curses being attractive, feminine, beautiful, and force women into wearing hijab.

It's a situation that occurs especially to women who are abused in adolescence, though not limited only to them. When young girls start to gain feminine traits and experience molestation and harassment in puberty, their subconscious minds correlate being a woman and abuse.

They are scared to be a woman and hate becoming one, and this hate and fear are mostly directed at what they think is the cause of the abuse: a feminine body. It's not a rational thinking and decision process but is something they do without realizing it, in order to not have a feminine body, curves, hips, breasts, they are starving themselves. This can continue in adulthood and often does.

The exact opposite is also possible. Some may create a safe comfort zone by making themselves too fat that to a degree nobody could say they are sexually attractive. So nobody would assault them again.

One's body image so the eating habits are indisputably related to their sexuality. Being underweight or overweight might cause a lack of confidence but they also can be the results of negative programming about their sexuality.

In Islam, women have to wear hijab. The reason is to protect them from getting raped by men. Because you know, if you are an attractive woman and don't cover your all skin, you get raped. This kind of victim-blaming is absolutely crazy and an insult to men like they are mindless animals who can't control themselves when they see some skin and hair.

What I want you to realize is the same mindset of destroying/hiding femininity.

And if you are underweight, or having eating problems, like your body is hating you when you try to eat, the smell of food making you nauseous, your throat becomes dry, your stomach aches, your gag reflex becomes sensitive... Give yourself some time to think if you ever experienced abuse and if it may be related.

 

[Inflorescentia]

Yeah its crazy the extent these people go to lie to themselves and others that theyre healthy and okay.

There was this celebrity, Adele i believe but I'm not sure, who was big then lost weight and tried to express how much better she felt and encourage others

People seemed emotionally hurt by this and even went as far as to call her "fat-phobic" and say she "shouldn't have gave into pressure"

Its really sad

But my hydrogenated fats and high sugar! That's my daily 3-storeys cake we're talking about! And my quintuple bacon cheeseburger :lol:

A „quintuple bacon cheeseburger” cooked in tallow is actually okay. The problem isn't burgers. It's the fake food pyramid. People were deceived into fearing "heart disease" and were offered seed oils, skimmed milk, and "heart-healthy grains" as the hegelian solution.

Most obese people think saturated fat is bad. They think red meat is bad. They think eating too many eggs is dangerous. They think raw milk can kill them. These people struggle daily with appetite because they're either denying themselves these satiating foods, or eat the trash that's commonly included with them -- sugar-laden buns and sauces and poly-unsaturated fats. And let's not forget all the additives which have found their way in nearly everything.

Trying to follow the dietary guidelines means constant hunger and that leads to frequent rebounds into junk food. It's no surprise they tend to fall into the "body positivity" scam, It's their only refuge from daily stress. And it's not about discipline or moderation. They're living a lie.

 

[Stormblood]

Yeah its crazy the extent these people go to lie to themselves and others that theyre healthy and okay.

There was this celebrity, Adele i believe but I'm not sure, who was big then lost weight and tried to express how much better she felt and encourage others

People seemed emotionally hurt by this and even went as far as to call her "fat-phobic" and say she "shouldn't have gave into pressure"

Its really sad

But my hydrogenated fats and high sugar! That's my daily 3-storeys cake we're talking about! And my quintuple bacon cheeseburger :lol:

A „quintuple bacon cheeseburger” cooked in tallow is actually okay. The problem isn't burgers. It's the fake food pyramid. People were deceived into fearing "heart disease" and were offered seed oils, skimmed milk, and "heart-healthy grains" as the hegelian solution.

Most obese people think saturated fat is bad. They think red meat is bad. They think eating too many eggs is dangerous. They think raw milk can kill them. These people struggle daily with appetite because they're either denying themselves these satiating foods, or eat the trash that's commonly included with them -- sugar-laden buns and sauces and poly-unsaturated fats. And let's not forget all the additives which have found their way in nearly everything.

Trying to follow the dietary guidelines means constant hunger and that leads to frequent rebounds into junk food. It's no surprise they tend to fall into the "body positivity" scam, It's their only refuge from daily stress. And it's not about discipline or moderation. They're living a lie.

If you cook it at home, made from grass-fed animals products, I am inclined to agree with you. If you eat it in most fast-food or make it from any commercial meats which aren't fed a proper meat, then I have to disagree because those meats contain hydrogenated fats (also called transfats), which are very unhealhty.

As for grains, I have always spoken against overeating of starches when you're not a professional athlete or active infantry on deployment on a serious mission. I have also always said the only good oils (for cooking and seasoning) are extra virgin olive oil and extra virgin coconut oils, preferably cold-pressed. I also already stated that skimmed and semi-skimmed variation of meat, and all low-fat and no-fat products are a fad.

Eating too many non-organic eggs is dangerous, because they contain 3x as much cholesterol as organic eggs, both LDL and HDL. So, in comparison, some people eat 2-3 eggs a day, which is not bad in most cases. If those eggs were organic, they could eat 6-9 instead without any issue.

 

[BlackOnyx8 [JG]]

This is actually similar to my schedule and I see some ideas here for improvement. Thank you.

 

[Inflorescentia]

If you cook it at home, made from grass-fed animals products, I am inclined to agree with you. If you eat it in most fast-food or make it from any commercial meats which aren't fed a proper meat, then I have to disagree because those meats contain hydrogenated fats (also called transfats), which are very unhealhty.
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Of course, if you have the luxury of home-cooking, then you're also able to select the ingredients. But bought meals containing non-organic produce are still much better than 90% of what you find on shelves and generally don't contribute to weight gain unless, as you said, you add too many carbs and/or indulge in desserts.

Transfats or not, I'm sure you agree that eating 3-4 burger patties can satiate almost anyone -- and without the bloating and lethargy that most people take for granted. That's a step in the right direction.

However, as I have stated above, the problem is people think red meat is to be avoided entirely. They don't pick on the details and, as such, they seek replacements to reach satiation -- and gain weight.

 

[Stormblood]

If you cook it at home, made from grass-fed animals products, I am inclined to agree with you. If you eat it in most fast-food or make it from any commercial meats which aren't fed a proper meat, then I have to disagree because those meats contain hydrogenated fats (also called transfats), which are very unhealhty.
...

Of course, if you have the luxury of home-cooking, then you're also able to select the ingredients. But bought meals containing non-organic produce are still much better than 90% of what you find on shelves and generally don't contribute to weight gain unless, as you said, you add too many carbs and/or indulge in desserts.

Transfats or not, I'm sure you agree that eating 3-4 burger patties can satiate almost anyone -- and without the bloating and lethargy that most people take for granted. That's a step in the right direction.

However, as I have stated above, the problem is people think red meat is to be avoided entirely. They don't pick on the details and, as such, they seek replacements to reach satiation -- and gain weight.

Many ready-to-eat meals I have seen usually contain unhealthy oils in it. For example, here Tesco loves to put rapeseed oil everywhere. Some also use sunflower oil, which is very popular for frying in Italy as well. I have seen palm oils used as well. Some ready-to-eat meals are better in quality but they are also a lot more expensive. It would be better, in my opinion, to bulk cook foods on days off, label them and freeze them, then just take what you need on the day, defrost and re-heat it quickly. Or just defrost it and bring it at work/uni with you.

Satiety depends on the amount of water contained in food. This is what makes the difference. The more water there is, the fuller your stomach will feel. The less water, the more you'll need to eat to it to be fill your stomach.

 

[NickSaggy]

That's so profound.
Brilliant and well put.

 

[SSinHeartandSoul]

Hello my dear brother

I only consume sweets as unhealthy food and ıt is very difficult to find healthy sweet food in Turkey so I buy cookies from the patisserie on my way to school, but I guess I won't buy them anymore and thank you very much for your advice.
(By unhealthy I mean unnatural)

Have a nice day ^^

Hey,

I just reread what i said above, and i might have come across a bit harsh, know that this was not my intention. As what i intended to say is that the food that you eat, has to be as natural as possible, avoid processed foods, and try to limit the consumption of carbohydrates.

To much carbohydrates can for example get you a fatty liver, and make you fat. So if you have some excess fat that you want to get rid off, limit your carbohydrate intake, and i would advise you not to eat after dinner. This could go a long way in helping you getting rid of the excess fat.

Ofcourse its fine to eat sugary snack's etc, every now and then, just don't over do it. That said if you are eating in a good and healthy way for you, you won't really like sweets that much anymore.

 

[Hp. Hoodedcobra666]

Self-starving due to the subconscious hate of being a woman is also a topic that I think should be mentioned since it has its roots in Judaism/Muslim/Christian mindset that curses being attractive, feminine, beautiful, and force women into wearing hijab.

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And if you are underweight, or having eating problems, like your body is hating you when you try to eat, the smell of food making you nauseous, your throat becomes dry, your stomach aches, your gag reflex becomes sensitive... Give yourself some time to think if you ever experienced abuse and if it may be related.

I don't think any women should worry about having a few pounds more or less. It's when one is into the obesity or dangerous anorexic range that they should be concerned and that's primarily for their own health.

Unfortunately there's much of both cases, mostly, the obesity right now. It has reached a threatening status in the West. Even during the "pandemic" or any flu epidemic, most people that die are the people who are obese. This creates a weakness into the body.

Indeed, the reply is insightful as psychologically damaging women [the tradition of this is from Abrahamism, all sorts of abusive things done to women especially on their appearance] is just part of a larger psychological attack on girls.

The relation of people's habits psychologically is also related to their emotional habits. For example, emotional over eating. This is why I believe shaming doesn't really work to any person, rather, common sense and addressing the situation at the core.

A girl I knew many years ago underwent so much shock because of her weight that she entered into an anorexia phase of not eating even a single meal a day. This lasted until she was hospitalized. Things like this shouldn't happen, a healthy balance is required.

Having also seen one morbidly obese friend that I had and how we all motivated him to lose something like 100+ pounds, what he needed was a diet, people to emotionally support him and occasionally some ass kicking where it was necessary for them to go to the gym.

People were bullying him a lot too so we had to defend him from this bullying on a constant basis. Many problems such as something related to narcolepsy and falling asleep for too many hours, were frequent for him. He would fall asleep even when he was outside sometimes.

It was worth the emotional effort. It took them about one and a half year to achieve this, but they came out transformed.

They actually made it and never gained the weight again. It was a rewarding experience.

He didn't believe it so much, but when he lost the first 20 pounds, he was extremely hyped and was already feeling the difference. It was major. Then eventually his behaviour rolled after 6 months and he didn't need any help from others to continue.

Less than looks this post was about mental and physical health, that's the important factor here. It's also about determination and inner strength. Looking a bit chubby or whatever is not an issue, unless we are talking about factual obesity.

 

[Inflorescentia]

... It would be better, in my opinion, to bulk cook foods on days off, label them and freeze them, then just take what you need on the day, defrost and re-heat it quickly. Or just defrost it and bring it at work/uni with you.

Satiety depends on the amount of water contained in food. This is what makes the difference. The more water there is, the fuller your stomach will feel. The less water, the more you'll need to eat to it to be fill your stomach.

I'd say satiety comes from having ingested enough fat. Fat is mostly water, so you have a point there. And yes, bulk-cooking is the best option if you don't have too much time. Unfortunately, I've known people who'd rather eat takeaway than equip their kitchen with the bare minimum.

 

[danewpath]

Christianity is 100% to blame for this

 

[BlackOnyx8 [JG]]

As for grains, I have always spoken against overeating of starches

What do you think about the keto diet for losing weight quickly (not for long term). I have been working around my diet as I need to lose some kilos. Going back to organic and non processed food and cutting sugar to zero and other harmful stuff. I have been doing the keto diet for some days as I had lost a lot of weight with this in the past so I know it works, but something inside me makes me feel uncomfortable about it this time, last time I did it about 3 months and nothing bad happened, I'm not diabetic but I'm kind of worried about ketones building up, reading it online most of it sounds like bro-science and I am actually thinking about going back to normal low carb/high protein diet and do things slower but healthier. What do you think?

 

[Stormblood]

As for grains, I have always spoken against overeating of starches

What do you think about the keto diet for losing weight quickly (not for long term). I have been working around my diet as I need to lose some kilos. Going back to organic and non processed food and cutting sugar to zero and other harmful stuff. I have been doing the keto diet for some days as I had lost a lot of weight with this in the past so I know it works, but something inside me makes me feel uncomfortable about it this time, last time I did it about 3 months and nothing bad happened, I'm not diabetic but I'm kind of worried about ketones building up, reading it online most of it sounds like bro-science and I am actually thinking about going back to normal low carb/high protein diet and do things slower but healthier. What do you think?

What I think is that there are not enough studies to prove it or disprove it. In general, the concept is good. Fat is the prime fuel and it used to be the main fuel for humans before the Dark Ages, because ketones are just more efficient. The issue is that human biology is now a little different from how it was back then and has adapted to using exorbitant amounts of carbs as a primary fuel, because the enemy made it so that grains where the cheapest and easiest to acquire. Notice how both Kikeson and Eldritch went to great lengths to speak against ketogenic diets.

That being said, I believe there may be an issue with your line of thought when you chose to switch to keto. A short-term diet is not the way to go in weight-management, even some personal trainers are waking up to this reality, despite still pushing dangerous amounts of proteins. What one needs to build is a sustainable diet that they will observe before and after reaching their ideal weight/shape. This is the reason why restrictive diets and "special" diets in general don't work for most people, and result in people getting the lost way back once they go back to their usual diet.

If you are a in a rush to lose weight and it's sustainable, I would just raise your activity levels. This doesn't necessarily mean more sport and working out. It can also mean taking the stairs more often, rather than a lift; walking more often than taking a car or public transport, and so on. Increasing activity levels while keeping your calories the same, will make sure you lose weight faster because your energy expenditures are higher. You only need to be sure to eat the right amount of protein and you will not lose muscles. It may also be worth to check your maximum genetic fat metabolism, just to be sure the difference between your TDEE and the calories you eat is never above that amount.

If it's not sustainable to increase your activity levels, then simply having your long-term diet and reducing calories will have to do, maybe coupled with the weight loss meditation, but change the affirmation to lose fat specifically, unless you're okay with also losing other mass. It could be water, bone, muscle or fat mass that you lose if you keep the affirmation generic and your visualisation too generic as well.

Make also sure you are drinking enough water, which is a factor based on your body weight. Dehydration leads to water retention, which makes you heavier and makes you look fatter. An appropriate amount of water is around 66 multiplied by your weight. The formula is for your weight in kilos, since you mentioned kilos. An excessive amount of body hair can also trick you into thinking you are fatter than you actually are. It's a gimmick and not true.

By sustainable, I mean that you can actually incorporate it in your lifestyle without issue, with minor adjustments... Something you can keep up with without adding to your daily stress load.

I hope this helps.

 

[Sunny]

As for grains, I have always spoken against overeating of starches

What do you think about the keto diet for losing weight quickly (not for long term). I have been working around my diet as I need to lose some kilos. Going back to organic and non processed food and cutting sugar to zero and other harmful stuff. I have been doing the keto diet for some days as I had lost a lot of weight with this in the past so I know it works, but something inside me makes me feel uncomfortable about it this time, last time I did it about 3 months and nothing bad happened, I'm not diabetic but I'm kind of worried about ketones building up, reading it online most of it sounds like bro-science and I am actually thinking about going back to normal low carb/high protein diet and do things slower but healthier. What do you think?

Maybe Stormy thinks otherwise because I have seen him promote this ketone thing in the past to lose fat. I've done some research on this and it doesn't sound very safe and healthy to me, correct me if I'm wrong.

I'd recommend getting fit in case you're not and keeping fit with exercise. If you don't have professional knowledge and means, it's best to go to a professional gym and you can be sure you'll get great results.

 

[Dark Blue Eye]

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I know a woman who is "fat" by most standards. She goes to USA every year to visit family, and she says every time she arrives in USA she feels skinny.

Walking is a safe and effective way for obese people to lose weight. Just get out and walk for an hour daily, then increase the time. Whatever it takes to lose weight. Affirmations too for any SS here. Something like "In healthy and beneficial ways for me, I am effectively losing excess fat and reaching an ideal body weight".

I knew a girl very obese, everytime she appeared out of nowhere I would be shocked involuntary. Everytime I forgot what I was doing, thinking, anything. Very strange and shocking to normality. I always felt like an asshole but truly it was involuntary. I think she was over 150kgs.

I heard that she can't have kids anymore because she is that fat, and the more shocking part is that being obese wanted kids. She is married to a man that was a model, and saw a pattern of beautiful men being very attracted to obese women. He told me one time that he expects her to be bigger as he loves for her to bring more weight to the table. :lol:

I just read this and I am shocked and not shocked same time. This culture from those grey rats makes me sick

 

[BlackOnyx8 [JG]]

Ok, understood. Thank you for the insight. I had also been reading the posts in the forum about keto and I came across some of Blitzkreig‘s knowledge about it from the TCM perspective and I guess this is not for me because of the burden in the kidneys which I can‘t afford. I also saw some ayurvedic diets, I will do some research about them and figure out which one is best for me and follow your advice.

I know how to exercise and I do have the tools. I just made some bad decisions and let myself indulge too much on food, for more time than I should have. And now I am extremely busy and I really can't stretch my free time more, but it seems that I will have to find a way to workout at least one or two times a week.

 

[Stormblood]

I know how to exercise and I do have the tools. I just made some bad decisions and let myself indulge too much on food, for more time than I should have. And now I am extremely busy and I really can't stretch my free time more, but it seems that I will have to find a way to workout at least one or two times a week.

Even 15-20 minutes a day of workout is better than nothing. And it would be best to do something most days of the week, rather than just one or two days. One or two days are better than nothing but not sufficient for human being, neither to maintain your physical progress nor to advance physically as well.

Just keep this in mind when organising your schedule and making plans for your future. I know you may actually not have the chance to implement a physical advancement programme, but you may want to keep in mind that it's something necessary for your spiritual advancement as well so, when you plan your future, you can work toward adjustments that will allow you to have more time for that. If you want to, of course. This is just advice, a suggestion.

The stress on kidneys is from high-protein diets, not from ketogenic diets. Most ketogenic diets only have a moderate amount of protein. One can keep a normal amount of protein, which is 1g per kg of bodyweight on average (unlike what broscience says), keep their carbohydrates under a certain threshold and eat the rest in healthy fats. But there are no studies on long-term effects of ketogenic with the modern human physiology, not using conventional medicine and not using alternatives like TCM and Ayurveda. There are only assumptions based on brainwashing from the carbs industry. Assumptions =/= facts.

Given your situation of little to no exercise at all, you may want to keep your carbs intake low overall, around 20% of your calories. Higher carb intakes are for athletes, gym rats and anyone that is very physically active. For those who do occasional gymming, like moderate training up to 4 times a week or light training more often than that, it's safe to increase to 30% without fat increases. More than that will hinder body recomposition, unlike what fake science says.

It may be a good idea to also do something that Lydia suggested in another nutrition topic: to programme your food so that extra "nutrients" are shed, not assimilated. This should help too, as she reported that other SS have done it successfully.

I hope this help. Keep in mind that this is all advice. You have the keys to the car and make the decision of how and when to drive it. I cannot do it for you or force you to do it the way I suggest.

 

[Sunny]

I know how to exercise and I do have the tools. I just made some bad decisions and let myself indulge too much on food, for more time than I should have. And now I am extremely busy and I really can't stretch my free time more, but it seems that I will have to find a way to workout at least one or two times a week.

If you can, it is better if you train 3-4 times a week. Can't you find 30-40 minutes of your free time?

 

[Sunny]

I have noticed one thing about muslim women. The majority between the ages of 40-60 are very fat and obese and often suffer from type 2 diabetes. Most of them are only housewives because they are not allowed to do anything else, but the cause of their obesity is their bad lifestyle which is due to their extreme ignorance because they are almost always illiterate.

Even though they are packed like cold cuts, their obesity is evident. Like, their arms are like thighs, not to mention their bodies. They're like big fat seals.

 

[Stormblood]

I have noticed one thing about muslim women. The majority between the ages of 40-60 are very fat and obese and often suffer from type 2 diabetes. Most of them are only housewives because they are not allowed to do anything else, but the cause of their obesity is their bad lifestyle which is due to their extreme ignorance because they are almost always illiterate.

Even though they are packed like cold cuts, their obesity is evident. Like, their arms are like thighs, not to mention their bodies. They're like big fat seals.

Yeah, type 2 diabetes is common in those who eat too many carbohydrates, such as Italians and muslims.

 

[Sunny]

I know how to exercise and I do have the tools. I just made some bad decisions and let myself indulge too much on food, for more time than I should have. And now I am extremely busy and I really can't stretch my free time more, but it seems that I will have to find a way to workout at least one or two times a week.

Even 15-20 minutes a day of workout is better than nothing. And it would be best to do something most days of the week, rather than just one or two days. One or two days are better than nothing but not sufficient for human being, neither to maintain your physical progress nor to advance physically as well.

Just keep this in mind when organising your schedule and making plans for your future. I know you may actually not have the chance to implement a physical advancement programme, but you may want to keep in mind that it's something necessary for your spiritual advancement as well so, when you plan your future, you can work toward adjustments that will allow you to have more time for that. If you want to, of course. This is just advice, a suggestion.

The stress on kidneys is from high-protein diets, not from ketogenic diets. Most ketogenic diets only have a moderate amount of protein. One can keep a normal amount of protein, which is 1g per kg of bodyweight on average (unlike what broscience says), keep their carbohydrates under a certain threshold and eat the rest in healthy fats. But there are no studies on long-term effects of ketogenic with the modern human physiology, not using conventional medicine and not using alternatives like TCM and Ayurveda. There are only assumptions based on brainwashing from the carbs industry. Assumptions =/= facts.

Given your situation of little to no exercise at all, you may want to keep your carbs intake low overall, around 20% of your calories. Higher carb intakes are for athletes, gym rats and anyone that is very physically active. For those who do occasional gymming, like moderate training up to 4 times a week or light training more often than that, it's safe to increase to 30% without fat increases. More than that will hinder body recomposition, unlike what fake science says.

It may be a good idea to also do something that Lydia suggested in another nutrition topic: to programme your food so that extra "nutrients" are shed, not assimilated. This should help too, as she reported that other SS have done it successfully.

I hope this help. Keep in mind that this is all advice. You have the keys to the car and make the decision of how and when to drive it. I cannot do it for you or force you to do it the way I suggest.

What a vile slanderer. This is extremely unfair and psychopathic. This is how you deal with criticism? I am not waging war on LGBT, I was just seeking understanding. I was wrong in attacking you unfairly and I am sorry, but I did it because I did not have sufficient knowledge and understanding of the issue.

Some time ago a SS made an argument with the title, what do heterosexuals think about homosexuals or something like that. There I asked for explanations in a friendly way, and you, all you had to say was, unreliable.

You can't accept something you don't understand, or at least that is the case with free beings.

For an offence or two you are offending me endlessly, and you are also offending bodybuilding, gyms, medicine, science etc. Have you lost your mind?

Honestly, I thought homosexuality was a choice and it seemed to me an unhelpful and unsatisfactory thing to do. Then, since no one here gave me explanations but only attacks and since LGBTs are protecting their rights tooth and nail, I had to do some extensive research on this myself.

I read arguments and studies done by doctors of psychology and I understood what it is all about. It is not a choice but a sexual attraction like heterosexual attraction. So you have to understand and accept it, that's all for now. We still have to understand what homosexual attraction is made of and how it works as well as heterosexual attraction. I am sure that when we understand this more, we will be able to do more, respecting free choice of course.

Talking about nutrition, yes you are right, mankind nowadays is exaggerating with sugars and neglecting fats that seem more dietary. But you have to be careful with saturated fats and especially trans fats.

 

[Sunny]

I know how to exercise and I do have the tools. I just made some bad decisions and let myself indulge too much on food, for more time than I should have. And now I am extremely busy and I really can't stretch my free time more, but it seems that I will have to find a way to workout at least one or two times a week.

Even 15-20 minutes a day of workout is better than nothing. And it would be best to do something most days of the week, rather than just one or two days. One or two days are better than nothing but not sufficient for human being, neither to maintain your physical progress nor to advance physically as well.

Just keep this in mind when organising your schedule and making plans for your future. I know you may actually not have the chance to implement a physical advancement programme, but you may want to keep in mind that it's something necessary for your spiritual advancement as well so, when you plan your future, you can work toward adjustments that will allow you to have more time for that. If you want to, of course. This is just advice, a suggestion.

The stress on kidneys is from high-protein diets, not from ketogenic diets. Most ketogenic diets only have a moderate amount of protein. One can keep a normal amount of protein, which is 1g per kg of bodyweight on average (unlike what broscience says), keep their carbohydrates under a certain threshold and eat the rest in healthy fats. But there are no studies on long-term effects of ketogenic with the modern human physiology, not using conventional medicine and not using alternatives like TCM and Ayurveda. There are only assumptions based on brainwashing from the carbs industry. Assumptions =/= facts.

Given your situation of little to no exercise at all, you may want to keep your carbs intake low overall, around 20% of your calories. Higher carb intakes are for athletes, gym rats and anyone that is very physically active. For those who do occasional gymming, like moderate training up to 4 times a week or light training more often than that, it's safe to increase to 30% without fat increases. More than that will hinder body recomposition, unlike what fake science says.

It may be a good idea to also do something that Lydia suggested in another nutrition topic: to programme your food so that extra "nutrients" are shed, not assimilated. This should help too, as she reported that other SS have done it successfully.

I hope this help. Keep in mind that this is all advice. You have the keys to the car and make the decision of how and when to drive it. I cannot do it for you or force you to do it the way I suggest.

What a vile slanderer. This is extremely unfair and psychopathic. This is how you deal with criticism? I am not waging war on LGBT, I was just seeking understanding. I was wrong in attacking you unfairly and I am sorry, but I did it because I did not have sufficient knowledge and understanding of the issue.

Some time ago a SS made an argument with the title, what do heterosexuals think about homosexuals or something like that. There I asked for explanations in a friendly way, and you, all you had to say was, unreliable.

You can't accept something you don't understand, or at least that is the case with free beings.

For an offence or two you are offending me endlessly, and you are also offending bodybuilding, gyms, medicine, science etc. Have you lost your mind?

Honestly, I thought homosexuality was a choice and it seemed to me an unhelpful and unsatisfactory thing to do. Then, since no one here gave me explanations but only attacks and since LGBTs are protecting their rights tooth and nail, I had to do some extensive research on this myself.

I read arguments and studies done by doctors of psychology and I understood what it is all about. It is not a choice but a sexual attraction like heterosexual attraction. So you have to understand and accept it, that's all for now. We still have to understand what homosexual attraction is made of and how it works as well as heterosexual attraction. I am sure that when we understand this more, we will be able to do more, respecting free choice of course.

Talking about nutrition, yes you are right, mankind nowadays is exaggerating with sugars and neglecting fats that seem more dietary. But you have to be careful with saturated fats and especially trans fats.

Now you have called me a gym rat, and I have seen you attack me many other times in different topics in an indirect manner. I can tell that you are still harbouring hatred for me regarding that issue, this is totally unreasonable and absurd. You are very stubborn.

 

[Stormblood]

I know how to exercise and I do have the tools. I just made some bad decisions and let myself indulge too much on food, for more time than I should have. And now I am extremely busy and I really can't stretch my free time more, but it seems that I will have to find a way to workout at least one or two times a week.

Even 15-20 minutes a day of workout is better than nothing. And it would be best to do something most days of the week, rather than just one or two days. One or two days are better than nothing but not sufficient for human being, neither to maintain your physical progress nor to advance physically as well.

Just keep this in mind when organising your schedule and making plans for your future. I know you may actually not have the chance to implement a physical advancement programme, but you may want to keep in mind that it's something necessary for your spiritual advancement as well so, when you plan your future, you can work toward adjustments that will allow you to have more time for that. If you want to, of course. This is just advice, a suggestion.

The stress on kidneys is from high-protein diets, not from ketogenic diets. Most ketogenic diets only have a moderate amount of protein. One can keep a normal amount of protein, which is 1g per kg of bodyweight on average (unlike what broscience says), keep their carbohydrates under a certain threshold and eat the rest in healthy fats. But there are no studies on long-term effects of ketogenic with the modern human physiology, not using conventional medicine and not using alternatives like TCM and Ayurveda. There are only assumptions based on brainwashing from the carbs industry. Assumptions =/= facts.

Given your situation of little to no exercise at all, you may want to keep your carbs intake low overall, around 20% of your calories. Higher carb intakes are for athletes, gym rats and anyone that is very physically active. For those who do occasional gymming, like moderate training up to 4 times a week or light training more often than that, it's safe to increase to 30% without fat increases. More than that will hinder body recomposition, unlike what fake science says.

It may be a good idea to also do something that Lydia suggested in another nutrition topic: to programme your food so that extra "nutrients" are shed, not assimilated. This should help too, as she reported that other SS have done it successfully.

I hope this help. Keep in mind that this is all advice. You have the keys to the car and make the decision of how and when to drive it. I cannot do it for you or force you to do it the way I suggest.

What a vile slanderer. This is extremely unfair and psychopathic. This is how you deal with criticism? I am not waging war on LGBT, I was just seeking understanding. I was wrong in attacking you unfairly and I am sorry, but I did it because I did not have sufficient knowledge and understanding of the issue.

I am not sure what are you talking about. Where exactly is the slander? Can you clarify it?

Also, let me clarify something, since it seems people like to use the legal language incorrectly:
:arrow: slander = ORAL defamation, so something done using your own voice
:arrow: libel = WRITTEN defamation, so something delivered via any form of text, online or not

Now you have called me a gym rat, and I have seen you attack me many other times in different topics in an indirect manner. I can tell that you are still harbouring hatred for me regarding that issue, this is totally unreasonable and absurd. You are very stubborn.

Is gym rat really an insult where you come from? Cambridge dictionary doesn't give any such connotation to it but I am aware each area has their own slang, so I apologise if that was perceived as an insult. Would you prefer "gym bunny", "hardcore gym-goer", something else?

What issue? I don't remember having any issue with you, ever.

 

[BlackOnyx8 [JG]]

Thanks Brother, that helped. I already adjusted my schedule to be able to workout in the morning, it will be tight as I work and go to school after work, so it's tight, every minute counts, but it's doable. I got some cardio for 3 days of the week, about 20 mins, and a proper workout with weight lifting for 2 days that I can go to bed earlier and wake up earlier.

 

[Sunny]

Even 15-20 minutes a day of workout is better than nothing. And it would be best to do something most days of the week, rather than just one or two days. One or two days are better than nothing but not sufficient for human being, neither to maintain your physical progress nor to advance physically as well.

Just keep this in mind when organising your schedule and making plans for your future. I know you may actually not have the chance to implement a physical advancement programme, but you may want to keep in mind that it's something necessary for your spiritual advancement as well so, when you plan your future, you can work toward adjustments that will allow you to have more time for that. If you want to, of course. This is just advice, a suggestion.

The stress on kidneys is from high-protein diets, not from ketogenic diets. Most ketogenic diets only have a moderate amount of protein. One can keep a normal amount of protein, which is 1g per kg of bodyweight on average (unlike what broscience says), keep their carbohydrates under a certain threshold and eat the rest in healthy fats. But there are no studies on long-term effects of ketogenic with the modern human physiology, not using conventional medicine and not using alternatives like TCM and Ayurveda. There are only assumptions based on brainwashing from the carbs industry. Assumptions =/= facts.

Given your situation of little to no exercise at all, you may want to keep your carbs intake low overall, around 20% of your calories. Higher carb intakes are for athletes, gym rats and anyone that is very physically active. For those who do occasional gymming, like moderate training up to 4 times a week or light training more often than that, it's safe to increase to 30% without fat increases. More than that will hinder body recomposition, unlike what fake science says.

It may be a good idea to also do something that Lydia suggested in another nutrition topic: to programme your food so that extra "nutrients" are shed, not assimilated. This should help too, as she reported that other SS have done it successfully.

I hope this help. Keep in mind that this is all advice. You have the keys to the car and make the decision of how and when to drive it. I cannot do it for you or force you to do it the way I suggest.

What a vile slanderer. This is extremely unfair and psychopathic. This is how you deal with criticism? I am not waging war on LGBT, I was just seeking understanding. I was wrong in attacking you unfairly and I am sorry, but I did it because I did not have sufficient knowledge and understanding of the issue.

I am not sure what are you talking about. Where exactly is the slander? Can you clarify it?

Also, let me clarify something, since it seems people like to use the legal language incorrectly:
:arrow: slander = ORAL defamation, so something done using your own voice
:arrow: libel = WRITTEN defamation, so something delivered via any form of text, online or not

Now you have called me a gym rat, and I have seen you attack me many other times in different topics in an indirect manner. I can tell that you are still harbouring hatred for me regarding that issue, this is totally unreasonable and absurd. You are very stubborn.

Is gym rat really an insult where you come from? Cambridge dictionary doesn't give any such connotation to it but I am aware each area has their own slang, so I apologise if that was perceived as an insult. Would you prefer "gym bunny", "hardcore gym-goer", something else?

What issue? I don't remember having any issue with you, ever.

What a coincidence of polysemic words, like the beggar here.
https://www.ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=61050
Gym bunny, that's a good one :lol: