The Great Tribulation ,Daniel's Final Cycle Begins from September - Prepare Mentally and Physically

[Aquarius]

Jrvan literally accused some new member a couple weeks ago of being Jack, I can't remember if he insulted him or not but it was really pathetic.

 

[Henu the Great]

:!: :!: If you don't feel like accepting certain topics from each other, add each other onto the "Foe" list, and ignore each other. Because if something is not fundamentally against the rules, then banning or whatever is not going to happen.

So either one has to accept some contrarian opinion, which is unavoidable in this world, or the bickering must be never ending, wasting time and energy of all those involved. :!: :!:

https://www.ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?p=358251#p358251

 

[AlexElPM]

Do not listen to the ones that throw irrational hate over you, Jack.

You really helped me by giving on the forum the necessary tips to change. You are very helpful.

 

[Jack]

And by the way ,everyone should research all of the things I've said and look at whether I'm saying something that is doomsdayish (lol) or actual documents and statements made by officials of the World Economic Forum whose policies are currently being implemented in the world. I could be making unfounded doomsdayish predictions but instead everything that I said is heavily researched and you should research it too if you think I'm full of shit.

And then think about the motivation of those who were involved in derailing this thread and why they did it.

I did not claim your post was a lie or that you're full of shit, or that the terrorist organization WEF isn't attempting these things. The only criticisms I gave is the same criticism I have been giving you for years which is the way in which you word your statements often provokes unwanted reactions, misunderstandings and emotional responses.

And the fact that nothing is set in stone and their attempts at a reset are actually likely to fail as they have prior is left out to fit your grimdark edgy take on this. They have attempted to roll out the reset already and failed. And their next attempts will fail.

The information provided is presented in such a demoralizing fashion that it could be viewed as even being harmful. I again bring up HC's method of conveying ill news with uplifting and motivational undertones. This is important for spiritual warfare.

The only thing I totally disagree with is the statement about AI. Otherwise my only problem is the way in which your worded this information was...well it was typical of you.


But I know you're just going to see this as an "attack", so go on. Let's see if at least you come up with original insults this time.

The people who are getting triggered and saying that what I'm saying is in anyway doomsdayish are the ones who hate me and are consciously trying to create and nitpick problems when there isn't any.

The other poster gave a list of topics where these individuals could go and give the exact same response they've given to my post but they didn't.

It's because they are enslaved by their own minds and they cannot help themselves ,they are petulant little children who keep irrelevant things that happen on anonymous forum on their mind for years. No one except them cares.

Their minds are weak and they create these kinds of emotions on their own.

Everyone else did not give these reactions because they do not have weak minds such as these select few individuals.

Basically to summarize, no one except the repeated offenders found this in anyway doomsdayish. Meaning the problem, the common denominator among all these situations is those people and not my message.

If they are so triggered and have such fragile minds ,they should add me as a foe as the other person said and not look at my post. Otherwise my brother's who will not tolerate this insanity will continue to check them and it will continue forever like this in a loop.

Because I'm not going to stop posting when I feel like posting ,just because an extremely fragile mind cannot read it and not help but get triggered.

 

[Dahaarkan]

Jrvan literally accused some new member a couple weeks ago of being Jack, I can't remember if he insulted him or not but it was really pathetic.

To be fair jack did make a rather melodramatic farewell post in which he declared he would no longer be using this persona and come back under a different persona. So people speculating on new accounts being his isn't that surprising.

 

[Dahaarkan]

I can't really complain too much since I'm basically the original clown who started the jack circus show. So in a way I'm the original clown.

It’s not about jack it’s about sending a message

No landlord joke?

 

[tabby]

I'm sensitive to things so I wonder if I'm not the only one who feels it. To me, there's an immense amount of pressure-like feeling when trying to read the original post. I get through a sentence or two and have to scroll off of it because it's a bit stifling.

Because the negative emotions that you have about your perception of my character is tied with the negative ego which creates a fake perception and all three are connected in a string which you cannot break because of your lack of control over your own mind.

You are enslaved by your own mind. No one did this to you.

I find that answer to be biased and unconvincing.

 

[Jrvan]

You have no idea how annoying you are. Jack literally seems to be living in your mind.

I knew that you would be one of the ones to show up to harass me. You couldn't resist. You want to know why? It's because none of this is finished between all of us. You and Ol and anyone else involved in this feud with me simply want to recover from your humiliation because I routinely outwit all of you and make you look bad. You all salivate when you think you've got me on the ropes, and your dream is to take me down to validate and recover your pathetic egos. Your fragile fucking egos are more important to you than truth or the JoS. I have known this for a long time now, and you have proven me right (to my disappointment) over and over again.

I don't care how much I "annoy" you, Aquarius. It pales in comparison to how much of a letdown you are to me. I'm not going to stop trying to thwart Jack with his plans every time he rears his ugly false heads. However, if you're even half as wise as you falsely believe yourself to be then you should stop making me the focus of your own mind and your stupid revenge fantasies that you dream up with your circle jerking boy squad. Go lick each others' wounds in private like you always do, and keep crying to each other about how I'm Tabby's alt and it's not fair how I always outplay you, and the clergy haven't smited me yet. Keep spinning your webs trying to trap me. It's never going to work because I'm smarter than all of you.

LIKE L-O-FUCKING-L, "BOOHOO HE'S OBSESSED WITH JACK!"
AS IF THAT'S WHAT IT'S REALLY ABOUT, DUMBASS! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

If you actually posted useful things rather than constantly biting jack's tail, people wouldn't be so annoyed at you. I don't care about my ego, it's just you having the same behaviour constantly.

Bullshit you don't care about your ego. This is all because you feel challenged by me. You never let it go, and you and your gang squad have been looking to even the score ever since. You all were in the wrong, and I challenged you and your false sense of authority on the forums. That's my great sin. You and the others would even side with a jew to get back at me for it.

 

[Dahaarkan]

And by the way ,everyone should research all of the things I've said and look at whether I'm saying something that is doomsdayish (lol) or actual documents and statements made by officials of the World Economic Forum whose policies are currently being implemented in the world. I could be making unfounded doomsdayish predictions but instead everything that I said is heavily researched and you should research it too if you think I'm full of shit.

And then think about the motivation of those who were involved in derailing this thread and why they did it.

I did not claim your post was a lie or that you're full of shit, or that the terrorist organization WEF isn't attempting these things. The only criticisms I gave is the same criticism I have been giving you for years which is the way in which you word your statements often provokes unwanted reactions, misunderstandings and emotional responses.

And the fact that nothing is set in stone and their attempts at a reset are actually likely to fail as they have prior is left out to fit your grimdark edgy take on this. They have attempted to roll out the reset already and failed. And their next attempts will fail.

The information provided is presented in such a demoralizing fashion that it could be viewed as even being harmful. I again bring up HC's method of conveying ill news with uplifting and motivational undertones. This is important for spiritual warfare.

The only thing I totally disagree with is the statement about AI. Otherwise my only problem is the way in which your worded this information was...well it was typical of you.


But I know you're just going to see this as an "attack", so go on. Let's see if at least you come up with original insults this time.

The people who are getting triggered and saying that what I'm saying is in anyway doomsdayish are the ones who hate me and are consciously trying to create and nitpick problems when there isn't any.

The other poster gave a list of topics where these individuals could go and give the exact same response they've given to my post but they didn't.

It's because they are enslaved by their own minds and they cannot help themselves ,they are petulant little children who keep irrelevant things that happen on anonymous forum on their mind for years. No one except them cares.

Their minds are weak and they create these kinds of emotions on their own.

Everyone else did not give these reactions because they do not have weak minds such as these select few individuals.

Basically to summarize, no one except the repeated offenders found this in anyway doomsdayish. Meaning the problem, the common denominator among all these situations is those people and not my message.

If they are so triggered and have such fragile minds ,they should add me as a foe as the other person said and not look at my post. Otherwise my brother's who will not tolerate this insanity will continue to check them and it will continue forever like this in a loop.

Because I'm not going to stop posting when I feel like posting ,just because an extremely fragile mind cannot read it and not help but get triggered.

lol

 

[The Outlaw Torn]

No landlord joke?

There was one but it wasn’t directed at you, unless…

 

[tabby]

To clear some things because the pattern is the same. If we spend 1 minute with each other in a single day each day, and during that minute we only see someone acting in anger towards another, and others in turn only react to this persons anger with fire... Do we assume they are always angry and all they do every day, is obsess and be angry?

You experience 1 minute, a fraction of a person's entire day, and everyone believes they know everything about everyone, what they do, what they think, whether or not they do enough magick and whatever...

How many of you stopped and asked questions? How many of you put your bias aside, and looked at the bigger picture to analyse the situation from a calm head? On one hand, jack makes a post and as has already been pointed out by others, that seems to have a lot of negative prophesy with wording choices claiming these things "ARE going to happen". This is not healthy for anyone's morale, not for the person who has written this and not for anyone who reads it. Nor is it productive, effective, or realistic. One could look at this as coming from a place of fear, paranoia, and a lack of faith in the Gods and the RTR's. Or one could choose to take this as a possible threat with knowing ill intentions, and treat it as such.

But because Jrvan reacted in anger against this - choosing the latter of the equation based on his own experiences regarding jack - the focus is not on the potential issues of the above, but on simply fighting fire with fire to try get Jrvan to go away.

To make matters worse, people seem to think this solves things and don't think to change their own approaches when the exact same pattern plays out over and over. What happens is people just remain angry, the issues that probably should be looked at get glossed over as irrelevant or nonexistent, and the cycle continues. History repeats itself when something hasn't been solved, and only ever fighting Jrvan's anger with fire is not going to solve anything. The past should show you he can be reasonable if you take the effort to be reasonable with him. If you fly the red cloth in front of the bulls face, it's only going to charge at you.

Who and what does this help? Does it help jack to overcome his issues with viewing everything through a black lens? Does it help Jrvan to not feel like people don't take this place as seriously as they should because blatant issues are not getting solved?

None of you understand each other. Few of you care enough to try understand, and even fewer are willing to try a different path to handle these things more effectively.

 

[Dahaarkan]

It's fascinating how unaware everybody here is of the reality that you are all very similar, and basically are all doing what you accuse each other of. Everything that jrvan is doing is something that jack was doing to him some time ago, such as jumping on a thread he made and calling him a tranny pretty much out of nowhere which spiraled into another fiesta thread. They just switched roles and now jrvan is the one jumping on jack's threads.

I personally don't think jrvan's hatred is misplaced. But his constant lashing against jack accomplishes nothing.

And sure, jrvan spends way too much time hounding at jack, but then you lot spend just as much time hounding at jrvan. Literally nobody is in the right here, it's just a circus you all contribute to perpetuating for the entertainment of imbeciles who like to read these back and forth boring arguments.

I was contributing to it also and eventually just came to realize there is no point to any of this. Every reply from either side is equally worthless and serves no purpose. I'm sorry for having to say it this way, but the reality is neither side here is swaying public opinion either way. And I know you're all going to be pissed at me but it's the truth you are all just being a bunch of clowns and this is neither a courtroom nor a serious conversation, it's a circus. Sorry but it's what it is.

And you should all stop contributing to it's continuation. Why does jrvan give so much of a shit what jack has to say. And why do the rest of you give so much of a shit what jrvan has to say. Humanity is on the brink of extinction and total collapse and you're getting heated over some words someone you've never met typed on the internet.

And yeah. I'm guilty of being a total clown in the past too and insisting on disagreements to a totally unnecessary degree. VoE made me see that. At some point you have to realize you're just wasting your time and accomplishing nothing.



Also this is just my point of view, but since both sides of the argument are probably hoping that a ban hammer is picked up, if a "ban" ends up being dished out (unlikely) what probably happens much to the surprise of both sides is you all get banned together because this is now becoming spam and you are all equally contributing to it. It's the same arguments almost copy pasted from the last 87 times you've had this conversation.

Criticizing other members and discussing beliefs and values is one thing, spam is disallowed by forum rules in case you guys weren't aware. So just fucking relax lol

Just drink some tea or something...

 

[Dahaarkan]

I think literally everyone in this thread should rethink the style and wording of their messages for different reasons. I know there's lots of underlying frustrations towards each other but a conversation can be had if one makes the effort to keep past grudges in the past and look at things objectively.


I do not believe doomsday predictions are productive or positive when tossed into the air without substance. Especially during these times where it is important to keep morale and motivation up. HC spends a lot of time making sure any grave news or warnings carry with them uplifting and motivational undertones as to keep everyone focused and motivated in the struggle.

The mind is the interface by which one commands energy to manifest goals and a mind plagued by doubts and fears is ineffective in this. I do think jack should reword his statements keeping this in mind as demoralizing SS is more severe than some might think.

Jack does have a bad habit of making doomsday predictions and tossing into the air apocalyptic scenarios which aren't set in stone. There is also the issue of this information, which is based only on their own assumptions and imagination is being presented as absolute certainty as if he could predict the future with perfect accuracy. I have always been critical of people who do this and it's not an issue of bias here.


I think this is jrvan's point here albeit there are some other remarks that maybe could have been left out as to prevent giving the impression there is nothing to his post besides hating jack. Doomsday prophecies is something that jews and xians also constantly shout into the air and I think this is where jrvan's knee jerk reaction stems from.

Correct me if I'm wrong, isn't there an ethical thing about giving negative predictions and prophecies? Or is that only in astrology readings?

Yes there is. The mental and emotional state of people has an impact on the spiritual, which has an impact on everything else in their life. So ill news, things that may cause panic, fear or extensive dread should be communicated in a way that does not aggravate the recipient's mental or emotional stability. This doesn't mean sugar coating everything excessively, but being ethical in presenting information that could destabilize someone.

If someone's mother passes away, you don't walk up to the person and say

"Your mother died in agonizing pain and shat and pissed herself on the floor while she died covered in her own feces and urine, this is the truth of the situation and you're just a weak pussy if you become emotional just from being told the truth."

The above could be 100% true, but the way in which this truth is conveyed is fucking retarded. Something that only an ape would think is appropriate. And this is the style of jack's communication and the reason everyone hates him. Not because he's wrong most of the time, but because he's a cunt.

Jack's entire persona is built around presenting information in the most unethical, uncaring, unpleasant and agitating manner possible. This is the main reason that he is the most hated individual in the community. A lot of what jack says (outside of tangents and arguments) isn't necessarily entirely wrong a lot of the time but presented in such a way that most who read it become agitated, emotional or disturbed in some way.


Jack is like a bee that gets stuck in your house and is just endlessly bumping into the glass trying to get out. You cannot really communicate with it, and attempts at helping it will be seen as an attack and you just end up getting stung. So the best thing you can do is just let it be and ignore it. Eventually it just dies out, or by some miracle finds it's way out.

Regardless the best that you can do is simply ignore it and let it fade out of mind and out of sight. I have been reviewing forum activity more than ever before and the pattern with jack is that a majority of participants in conversations he starts or joins are actually people who despise him arguing with him. And the reality is all these people have to do is not respond to his threads and he doesn't have any of the relevance or illusion of importance that many believe he has.

If jrvan had not commented on this thread it would have gotten between 0 and 2 replies and between 200-800 views at most as is what such posts by him usually get. This is how irrelevant jack is without the intervention of the people who hate him bumping him and giving him importance and keeping him at the front page of the forums for weeks at a time. The people who despise him are his main audience and the most active participants of conversations he's in.

Remove all this and jack in reality is just a college student playing a character online with a bit of an ego. And he's not necessarily trying to cause harm but has the communication skills of a donkey's asshole and this often confuses and enrages people. And he himself then becomes enraged and it escalates from there.


I do not even reply to jack in any serious or in depth capacity anymore. This is more an explanation to you and jrvan since I understand you have a hatred for this person, which in my opinion is justified but this is irrelevant. There are so many other things you can talk about, why take every opportunity to have another unpleasant argument about someone you despise when you can just be chilling and doing literally anything else.

In some capacity I contributed to this fiesta. I would just like to clean this up now. And show you how pointless all of this really is.

 

[Aquarius]

I knew that you would be one of the ones to show up to harass me. You couldn't resist. You want to know why? It's because none of this is finished between all of us. You and Ol and anyone else involved in this feud with me simply want to recover from your humiliation because I routinely outwit all of you and make you look bad. You all salivate when you think you've got me on the ropes, and your dream is to take me down to validate and recover your pathetic egos. Your fragile fucking egos are more important to you than truth or the JoS. I have known this for a long time now, and you have proven me right (to my disappointment) over and over again.

I don't care how much I "annoy" you, Aquarius. It pales in comparison to how much of a letdown you are to me. I'm not going to stop trying to thwart Jack with his plans every time he rears his ugly false heads. However, if you're even half as wise as you falsely believe yourself to be then you should stop making me the focus of your own mind and your stupid revenge fantasies that you dream up with your circle jerking boy squad. Go lick each others' wounds in private like you always do, and keep crying to each other about how I'm Tabby's alt and it's not fair how I always outplay you, and the clergy haven't smited me yet. Keep spinning your webs trying to trap me. It's never going to work because I'm smarter than all of you.

LIKE L-O-FUCKING-L, "BOOHOO HE'S OBSESSED WITH JACK!"
AS IF THAT'S WHAT IT'S REALLY ABOUT, DUMBASS! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

If you actually posted useful things rather than constantly biting jack's tail, people wouldn't be so annoyed at you. I don't care about my ego, it's just you having the same behaviour constantly.

Bullshit you don't care about your ego. This is all because you feel challenged by me. You never let it go, and you and your gang squad have been looking to even the score ever since. You all were in the wrong, and I challenged you and your false sense of authority on the forums. That's my great sin. You and the others would even side with a jew to get back at me for it.

It's your ego, not mine. I don't hate you.

 

[Jack]

I'm sensitive to things so I wonder if I'm not the only one who feels it. To me, there's an immense amount of pressure-like feeling when trying to read the original post. I get through a sentence or two and have to scroll off of it because it's a bit stifling.

Because the negative emotions that you have about your perception of my character is tied with the negative ego which creates a fake perception and all three are connected in a string which you cannot break because of your lack of control over your own mind.

You are enslaved by your own mind. No one did this to you.

I find that answer to be biased and unconvincing.

Please stop making a fool out of yourself.

Everyone already knows.

Everyone knows.

https://youtu.be/rDcFMcQBnfM

 

[Jack]

Infact ,you should all hear this song in background while reading this thread one more time.

https://youtu.be/rDcFMcQBnfM

Atleast you'll have a laugh this time.

 

[Jack]

I did not claim your post was a lie or that you're full of shit, or that the terrorist organization WEF isn't attempting these things. The only criticisms I gave is the same criticism I have been giving you for years which is the way in which you word your statements often provokes unwanted reactions, misunderstandings and emotional responses.

And the fact that nothing is set in stone and their attempts at a reset are actually likely to fail as they have prior is left out to fit your grimdark edgy take on this. They have attempted to roll out the reset already and failed. And their next attempts will fail.

The information provided is presented in such a demoralizing fashion that it could be viewed as even being harmful. I again bring up HC's method of conveying ill news with uplifting and motivational undertones. This is important for spiritual warfare.

The only thing I totally disagree with is the statement about AI. Otherwise my only problem is the way in which your worded this information was...well it was typical of you.


But I know you're just going to see this as an "attack", so go on. Let's see if at least you come up with original insults this time.

The people who are getting triggered and saying that what I'm saying is in anyway doomsdayish are the ones who hate me and are consciously trying to create and nitpick problems when there isn't any.

The other poster gave a list of topics where these individuals could go and give the exact same response they've given to my post but they didn't.

It's because they are enslaved by their own minds and they cannot help themselves ,they are petulant little children who keep irrelevant things that happen on anonymous forum on their mind for years. No one except them cares.

Their minds are weak and they create these kinds of emotions on their own.

Everyone else did not give these reactions because they do not have weak minds such as these select few individuals.

Basically to summarize, no one except the repeated offenders found this in anyway doomsdayish. Meaning the problem, the common denominator among all these situations is those people and not my message.

If they are so triggered and have such fragile minds ,they should add me as a foe as the other person said and not look at my post. Otherwise my brother's who will not tolerate this insanity will continue to check them and it will continue forever like this in a loop.

Because I'm not going to stop posting when I feel like posting ,just because an extremely fragile mind cannot read it and not help but get triggered.

lol

lol

 

[Jack]

I think literally everyone in this thread should rethink the style and wording of their messages for different reasons. I know there's lots of underlying frustrations towards each other but a conversation can be had if one makes the effort to keep past grudges in the past and look at things objectively.


I do not believe doomsday predictions are productive or positive when tossed into the air without substance. Especially during these times where it is important to keep morale and motivation up. HC spends a lot of time making sure any grave news or warnings carry with them uplifting and motivational undertones as to keep everyone focused and motivated in the struggle.

The mind is the interface by which one commands energy to manifest goals and a mind plagued by doubts and fears is ineffective in this. I do think jack should reword his statements keeping this in mind as demoralizing SS is more severe than some might think.

Jack does have a bad habit of making doomsday predictions and tossing into the air apocalyptic scenarios which aren't set in stone. There is also the issue of this information, which is based only on their own assumptions and imagination is being presented as absolute certainty as if he could predict the future with perfect accuracy. I have always been critical of people who do this and it's not an issue of bias here.


I think this is jrvan's point here albeit there are some other remarks that maybe could have been left out as to prevent giving the impression there is nothing to his post besides hating jack. Doomsday prophecies is something that jews and xians also constantly shout into the air and I think this is where jrvan's knee jerk reaction stems from.

Correct me if I'm wrong, isn't there an ethical thing about giving negative predictions and prophecies? Or is that only in astrology readings?

Yes there is. The mental and emotional state of people has an impact on the spiritual, which has an impact on everything else in their life. So ill news, things that may cause panic, fear or extensive dread should be communicated in a way that does not aggravate the recipient's mental or emotional stability. This doesn't mean sugar coating everything excessively, but being ethical in presenting information that could destabilize someone.

If someone's mother passes away, you don't walk up to the person and say

"Your mother died in agonizing pain and shat and pissed herself on the floor while she died covered in her own feces and urine, this is the truth of the situation and you're just a weak pussy if you become emotional just from being told the truth."

The above could be 100% true, but the way in which this truth is conveyed is fucking retarded. Something that only an ape would think is appropriate. And this is the style of jack's communication and the reason everyone hates him. Not because he's wrong most of the time, but because he's a cunt.

Jack's entire persona is built around presenting information in the most unethical, uncaring, unpleasant and agitating manner possible. This is the main reason that he is the most hated individual in the community. A lot of what jack says (outside of tangents and arguments) isn't necessarily entirely wrong a lot of the time but presented in such a way that most who read it become agitated, emotional or disturbed in some way.


Jack is like a bee that gets stuck in your house and is just endlessly bumping into the glass trying to get out. You cannot really communicate with it, and attempts at helping it will be seen as an attack and you just end up getting stung. So the best thing you can do is just let it be and ignore it. Eventually it just dies out, or by some miracle finds it's way out.

Regardless the best that you can do is simply ignore it and let it fade out of mind and out of sight. I have been reviewing forum activity more than ever before and the pattern with jack is that a majority of participants in conversations he starts or joins are actually people who despise him arguing with him. And the reality is all these people have to do is not respond to his threads and he doesn't have any of the relevance or illusion of importance that many believe he has.

If jrvan had not commented on this thread it would have gotten between 0 and 2 replies and between 200-800 views at most as is what such posts by him usually get. This is how irrelevant jack is without the intervention of the people who hate him bumping him and giving him importance and keeping him at the front page of the forums for weeks at a time. The people who despise him are his main audience and the most active participants of conversations he's in.

Remove all this and jack in reality is just a college student playing a character online with a bit of an ego. And he's not necessarily trying to cause harm but has the communication skills of a donkey's asshole and this often confuses and enrages people. And he himself then becomes enraged and it escalates from there.


I do not even reply to jack in any serious or in depth capacity anymore. This is more an explanation to you and jrvan since I understand you have a hatred for this person, which in my opinion is justified but this is irrelevant. There are so many other things you can talk about, why take every opportunity to have another unpleasant argument about someone you despise when you can just be chilling and doing literally anything else.

In some capacity I contributed to this fiesta. I would just like to clean this up now. And show you how pointless all of this really is.

Apart from the unnecessary insults, he is almost right.

People who do not have the mental capacity to read stuff without panicking or getting triggered shouldn't read my posts.

 

[Jack]

To clear some things because the pattern is the same. If we spend 1 minute with each other in a single day each day, and during that minute we only see someone acting in anger towards another, and others in turn only react to this persons anger with fire... Do we assume they are always angry and all they do every day, is obsess and be angry?

You experience 1 minute, a fraction of a person's entire day, and everyone believes they know everything about everyone, what they do, what they think, whether or not they do enough magick and whatever...

How many of you stopped and asked questions? How many of you put your bias aside, and looked at the bigger picture to analyse the situation from a calm head? On one hand, jack makes a post and as has already been pointed out by others, that seems to have a lot of negative prophesy with wording choices claiming these things "ARE going to happen". This is not healthy for anyone's morale, not for the person who has written this and not for anyone who reads it. Nor is it productive, effective, or realistic. One could look at this as coming from a place of fear, paranoia, and a lack of faith in the Gods and the RTR's. Or one could choose to take this as a possible threat with knowing ill intentions, and treat it as such.

But because Jrvan reacted in anger against this - choosing the latter of the equation based on his own experiences regarding jack - the focus is not on the potential issues of the above, but on simply fighting fire with fire to try get Jrvan to go away.

To make matters worse, people seem to think this solves things and don't think to change their own approaches when the exact same pattern plays out over and over. What happens is people just remain angry, the issues that probably should be looked at get glossed over as irrelevant or nonexistent, and the cycle continues. History repeats itself when something hasn't been solved, and only ever fighting Jrvan's anger with fire is not going to solve anything. The past should show you he can be reasonable if you take the effort to be reasonable with him. If you fly the red cloth in front of the bulls face, it's only going to charge at you.

Who and what does this help? Does it help jack to overcome his issues with viewing everything through a black lens? Does it help Jrvan to not feel like people don't take this place as seriously as they should because blatant issues are not getting solved?

None of you understand each other. Few of you care enough to try understand, and even fewer are willing to try a different path to handle these things more effectively.

No one claimed it had negative prophecy except you and the other person. No one.
The common denominator between all of this is you, not my message.

There is no negative prophecy in it. What I said is guaranteed to happen. It's a foregone conclusion. There is nothing demoralizing about any of it. Knowing the truth should be liberating and everyone should look forward to change.

I have absolute faith in the Gods and humanity and which is why I don't see any of the tulmunous things that are happening as bad but as opportunities for humanity to revolt.

If the WEF hadn't pushed ,the Dutch farmers wouldn't have protested.

If the prices wouldn't go up ,the people wouldn't have cared about the Biden administration.

The more they push ,the more opportunities for massive amounts of humans to rise up.

Which is why I wrote that there is a good chances humanity is going to rise up and overthrow the elites.

I don't see any of this as negative. I see them as opportunities.

People need to be MOTIVATED that these crises present opportunities for REVOLUTIONARY changes beyond the scope of decades of change, happening in just a couple of years.

 

[Jack]

I think literally everyone in this thread should rethink the style and wording of their messages for different reasons. I know there's lots of underlying frustrations towards each other but a conversation can be had if one makes the effort to keep past grudges in the past and look at things objectively.


I do not believe doomsday predictions are productive or positive when tossed into the air without substance. Especially during these times where it is important to keep morale and motivation up. HC spends a lot of time making sure any grave news or warnings carry with them uplifting and motivational undertones as to keep everyone focused and motivated in the struggle.

The mind is the interface by which one commands energy to manifest goals and a mind plagued by doubts and fears is ineffective in this. I do think jack should reword his statements keeping this in mind as demoralizing SS is more severe than some might think.

Jack does have a bad habit of making doomsday predictions and tossing into the air apocalyptic scenarios which aren't set in stone. There is also the issue of this information, which is based only on their own assumptions and imagination is being presented as absolute certainty as if he could predict the future with perfect accuracy. I have always been critical of people who do this and it's not an issue of bias here.


I think this is jrvan's point here albeit there are some other remarks that maybe could have been left out as to prevent giving the impression there is nothing to his post besides hating jack. Doomsday prophecies is something that jews and xians also constantly shout into the air and I think this is where jrvan's knee jerk reaction stems from.

Correct me if I'm wrong, isn't there an ethical thing about giving negative predictions and prophecies? Or is that only in astrology readings?

Yes there is. The mental and emotional state of people has an impact on the spiritual, which has an impact on everything else in their life. So ill news, things that may cause panic, fear or extensive dread should be communicated in a way that does not aggravate the recipient's mental or emotional stability. This doesn't mean sugar coating everything excessively, but being ethical in presenting information that could destabilize someone.

If someone's mother passes away, you don't walk up to the person and say

"Your mother died in agonizing pain and shat and pissed herself on the floor while she died covered in her own feces and urine, this is the truth of the situation and you're just a weak pussy if you become emotional just from being told the truth."

The above could be 100% true, but the way in which this truth is conveyed is fucking retarded. Something that only an ape would think is appropriate. And this is the style of jack's communication and the reason everyone hates him. Not because he's wrong most of the time, but because he's a cunt.

Jack's entire persona is built around presenting information in the most unethical, uncaring, unpleasant and agitating manner possible. This is the main reason that he is the most hated individual in the community. A lot of what jack says (outside of tangents and arguments) isn't necessarily entirely wrong a lot of the time but presented in such a way that most who read it become agitated, emotional or disturbed in some way.


Jack is like a bee that gets stuck in your house and is just endlessly bumping into the glass trying to get out. You cannot really communicate with it, and attempts at helping it will be seen as an attack and you just end up getting stung. So the best thing you can do is just let it be and ignore it. Eventually it just dies out, or by some miracle finds it's way out.

Regardless the best that you can do is simply ignore it and let it fade out of mind and out of sight. I have been reviewing forum activity more than ever before and the pattern with jack is that a majority of participants in conversations he starts or joins are actually people who despise him arguing with him. And the reality is all these people have to do is not respond to his threads and he doesn't have any of the relevance or illusion of importance that many believe he has.

If jrvan had not commented on this thread it would have gotten between 0 and 2 replies and between 200-800 views at most as is what such posts by him usually get. This is how irrelevant jack is without the intervention of the people who hate him bumping him and giving him importance and keeping him at the front page of the forums for weeks at a time. The people who despise him are his main audience and the most active participants of conversations he's in.

Remove all this and jack in reality is just a college student playing a character online with a bit of an ego. And he's not necessarily trying to cause harm but has the communication skills of a donkey's asshole and this often confuses and enrages people. And he himself then becomes enraged and it escalates from there.


I do not even reply to jack in any serious or in depth capacity anymore. This is more an explanation to you and jrvan since I understand you have a hatred for this person, which in my opinion is justified but this is irrelevant. There are so many other things you can talk about, why take every opportunity to have another unpleasant argument about someone you despise when you can just be chilling and doing literally anything else.

In some capacity I contributed to this fiesta. I would just like to clean this up now. And show you how pointless all of this really is.

Yes please tell them this. It's a very good way to make them understand that what they're doing is pointless.

I'll continue making posts like this whenever I have to. I'll continue to not change my tone. I'll continue to write in this manner.

And if they continue to provoke me ,all this drama is going to continue, in a loop.

I don't care about people who are angry or hate me. I don't even acknowledge your existence.

I have an actual existence that is precious to the world and real people outside of this little fantasy drama that you have all going on.

Stop nitpicking and playing petulant games. I didn't come here to have a little laugh.

What I'm talking about is very serious and if you don't listen or disregard it or don't care to listen because of what your perception of me is ,that is your prerogative.

"Oh no the anonymous poster on the internet doesn't like me."

I DON'T CARE.

None of what you say is going to affect my real life in anyway.

When everything I said comes true and it most certainly will ,I'll remember to make a post titled

"JACK WAS RIGHT" and then all of you people who cannot keep your personal differences aside from your personal well being will look really intelligent that you said all of this nonsense and at the end everything happened the way I said it would.

 

[The Outlaw Torn]

fighting Jrvan's anger with fire is not going to solve anything.

Or maybe Jrvan should stop being such a massive manbaby whenever jack is involved and direct his “anger” towards something like the treadmill so that he can lose weight and subsequently stop being such a massive ball of estrogen.

 

[tabby]

...
And you should all stop contributing to it's continuation. Why does jrvan give so much of a shit what jack has to say. And why do the rest of you give so much of a shit what jrvan has to say. Humanity is on the brink of extinction and total collapse and you're getting heated over some words someone you've never met typed on the internet.
...

I think literally everyone in this thread should rethink the style and wording of their messages for different reasons. I know there's lots of underlying frustrations towards each other but a conversation can be had if one makes the effort to keep past grudges in the past and look at things objectively.


I do not believe doomsday predictions are productive or positive when tossed into the air without substance. Especially during these times where it is important to keep morale and motivation up. HC spends a lot of time making sure any grave news or warnings carry with them uplifting and motivational undertones as to keep everyone focused and motivated in the struggle.

The mind is the interface by which one commands energy to manifest goals and a mind plagued by doubts and fears is ineffective in this. I do think jack should reword his statements keeping this in mind as demoralizing SS is more severe than some might think.

Jack does have a bad habit of making doomsday predictions and tossing into the air apocalyptic scenarios which aren't set in stone. There is also the issue of this information, which is based only on their own assumptions and imagination is being presented as absolute certainty as if he could predict the future with perfect accuracy. I have always been critical of people who do this and it's not an issue of bias here.


I think this is jrvan's point here albeit there are some other remarks that maybe could have been left out as to prevent giving the impression there is nothing to his post besides hating jack. Doomsday prophecies is something that jews and xians also constantly shout into the air and I think this is where jrvan's knee jerk reaction stems from.

Correct me if I'm wrong, isn't there an ethical thing about giving negative predictions and prophecies? Or is that only in astrology readings?

Yes there is. The mental and emotional state of people has an impact on the spiritual, which has an impact on everything else in their life. So ill news, things that may cause panic, fear or extensive dread should be communicated in a way that does not aggravate the recipient's mental or emotional stability. This doesn't mean sugar coating everything excessively, but being ethical in presenting information that could destabilize someone.

If someone's mother passes away, you don't walk up to the person and say

"Your mother died in agonizing pain and shat and pissed herself on the floor while she died covered in her own feces and urine, this is the truth of the situation and you're just a weak pussy if you become emotional just from being told the truth."

The above could be 100% true, but the way in which this truth is conveyed is fucking retarded. Something that only an ape would think is appropriate. And this is the style of jack's communication and the reason everyone hates him. Not because he's wrong most of the time, but because he's a cunt.

Jack's entire persona is built around presenting information in the most unethical, uncaring, unpleasant and agitating manner possible. This is the main reason that he is the most hated individual in the community. A lot of what jack says (outside of tangents and arguments) isn't necessarily entirely wrong a lot of the time but presented in such a way that most who read it become agitated, emotional or disturbed in some way.


Jack is like a bee that gets stuck in your house and is just endlessly bumping into the glass trying to get out. You cannot really communicate with it, and attempts at helping it will be seen as an attack and you just end up getting stung. So the best thing you can do is just let it be and ignore it. Eventually it just dies out, or by some miracle finds it's way out.

Regardless the best that you can do is simply ignore it and let it fade out of mind and out of sight. I have been reviewing forum activity more than ever before and the pattern with jack is that a majority of participants in conversations he starts or joins are actually people who despise him arguing with him. And the reality is all these people have to do is not respond to his threads and he doesn't have any of the relevance or illusion of importance that many believe he has.

If jrvan had not commented on this thread it would have gotten between 0 and 2 replies and between 200-800 views at most as is what such posts by him usually get. This is how irrelevant jack is without the intervention of the people who hate him bumping him and giving him importance and keeping him at the front page of the forums for weeks at a time. The people who despise him are his main audience and the most active participants of conversations he's in.

Remove all this and jack in reality is just a college student playing a character online with a bit of an ego. And he's not necessarily trying to cause harm but has the communication skills of a donkey's asshole and this often confuses and enrages people. And he himself then becomes enraged and it escalates from there.


I do not even reply to jack in any serious or in depth capacity anymore. This is more an explanation to you and jrvan since I understand you have a hatred for this person, which in my opinion is justified but this is irrelevant. There are so many other things you can talk about, why take every opportunity to have another unpleasant argument about someone you despise when you can just be chilling and doing literally anything else.

In some capacity I contributed to this fiesta. I would just like to clean this up now. And show you how pointless all of this really is.

Thank you for your response, I figured there was but wasn't sure.

You don't need to worry about me continuing issues with jack. I had no intention of causing any disturbance or further agitation here with my comments. Jrvan doesn't get angry and what-have-you for no reason, so I came to see what was up and understand the situation, and ask what I felt I needed to on my end to gather that data.

Personally, I feel those who seem to care a fair bit about jack, should be more concerned with his mental and emotional health, rather than fighting Jrvan. Enabling negative thought patterns does nothing for anyone other than prevent proper healing and cause further problems in a person. But that's just how I feel about things.

Something that might help to bring a little bit more understanding of why such importance, at least on Jrvan's part, has been put into this - it's simply because we are told we are family here. And since the start Jrvan took that very seriously, so when he was met with the nastiness against him from the same folk there's still trouble with over bs things, it was like betrayal to him. That's all he's known whenever anyone has claimed to be family to him.

To us both, this wasn't meant to be just another place on the internet, just another community of strangers... Truth, honor, justice, unity, etc., are the highest values held in the JoS. A community dedicated to Eternal Truth, and bonded by blood. So for him, he considers it a crime to go against these values and to be dishonest here for (what he sees as) selfish personal benefit / self-preservation, rather than for the good of the JoS.

So yeah, he's deflecting back what has been done to him these years, attempting to clean things up in the way he thinks things need to be done, and has given up on feeling like family. However, he's always hoping that people will prove him wrong about themselves through their actions, and leaving room for doubt when he states the things he does about others.

 

[tabby]

fighting Jrvan's anger with fire is not going to solve anything.

Or maybe Jrvan should stop being such a massive manbaby whenever jack is involved and direct his “anger” towards something like the treadmill so that he can lose weight and subsequently stop being such a massive ball of estrogen.

If you valued your own path in life, you'd be putting your own energies elsewhere rather than chasing the negativity in the forums, Outlaw.

 

[Jrvan]

Correct me if I'm wrong, isn't there an ethical thing about giving negative predictions and prophecies? Or is that only in astrology readings?

Yes there is. The mental and emotional state of people has an impact on the spiritual, which has an impact on everything else in their life. So ill news, things that may cause panic, fear or extensive dread should be communicated in a way that does not aggravate the recipient's mental or emotional stability. This doesn't mean sugar coating everything excessively, but being ethical in presenting information that could destabilize someone.

If someone's mother passes away, you don't walk up to the person and say

"Your mother died in agonizing pain and shat and pissed herself on the floor while she died covered in her own feces and urine, this is the truth of the situation and you're just a weak pussy if you become emotional just from being told the truth."

The above could be 100% true, but the way in which this truth is conveyed is fucking retarded. Something that only an ape would think is appropriate. And this is the style of jack's communication and the reason everyone hates him. Not because he's wrong most of the time, but because he's a cunt.

Jack's entire persona is built around presenting information in the most unethical, uncaring, unpleasant and agitating manner possible. This is the main reason that he is the most hated individual in the community. A lot of what jack says (outside of tangents and arguments) isn't necessarily entirely wrong a lot of the time but presented in such a way that most who read it become agitated, emotional or disturbed in some way.


Jack is like a bee that gets stuck in your house and is just endlessly bumping into the glass trying to get out. You cannot really communicate with it, and attempts at helping it will be seen as an attack and you just end up getting stung. So the best thing you can do is just let it be and ignore it. Eventually it just dies out, or by some miracle finds it's way out.

Regardless the best that you can do is simply ignore it and let it fade out of mind and out of sight. I have been reviewing forum activity more than ever before and the pattern with jack is that a majority of participants in conversations he starts or joins are actually people who despise him arguing with him. And the reality is all these people have to do is not respond to his threads and he doesn't have any of the relevance or illusion of importance that many believe he has.

If jrvan had not commented on this thread it would have gotten between 0 and 2 replies and between 200-800 views at most as is what such posts by him usually get. This is how irrelevant jack is without the intervention of the people who hate him bumping him and giving him importance and keeping him at the front page of the forums for weeks at a time. The people who despise him are his main audience and the most active participants of conversations he's in.

Remove all this and jack in reality is just a college student playing a character online with a bit of an ego. And he's not necessarily trying to cause harm but has the communication skills of a donkey's asshole and this often confuses and enrages people. And he himself then becomes enraged and it escalates from there.


I do not even reply to jack in any serious or in depth capacity anymore. This is more an explanation to you and jrvan since I understand you have a hatred for this person, which in my opinion is justified but this is irrelevant. There are so many other things you can talk about, why take every opportunity to have another unpleasant argument about someone you despise when you can just be chilling and doing literally anything else.

In some capacity I contributed to this fiesta. I would just like to clean this up now. And show you how pointless all of this really is.

Yes please tell them this. It's a very good way to make them understand that what they're doing is pointless.

I'll continue making posts like this whenever I have to. I'll continue to not change my tone. I'll continue to write in this manner.

And if they continue to provoke me ,all this drama is going to continue, in a loop.

I don't care about people who are angry or hate me. I don't even acknowledge your existence.

I have an actual existence that is precious to the world and real people outside of this little fantasy drama that you have all going on.

Stop nitpicking and playing petulant games. I didn't come here to have a little laugh.

What I'm talking about is very serious and if you don't listen or disregard it or don't care to listen because of what your perception of me is ,that is your prerogative.

"Oh no the anonymous poster on the internet doesn't like me."

I DON'T CARE.

None of what you say is going to affect my real life in anyway.

When everything I said comes true and it most certainly will ,I'll remember to make a post titled

"JACK WAS RIGHT" and then all of you people who cannot keep your personal differences aside from your personal well being will look really intelligent that you said all of this nonsense and at the end everything happened the way I said it would.

It's not going to come true. None of it will manifest. You just wish it would, but it's not happening. I'm not going to make a post later saying "JRVAN WAS RIGHT" or "JACK WAS WRONG" because you don't matter. You're already dead inside, and you will never become a God. You won't even reach the height that Tabby is at right now. Loser.

Now that I recall how superstitious you are...
May you never find love. May you never find happiness. May you suffer forever alone with your low self. I wish you all the worst things in your worthless life.

 

[Jrvan]

fighting Jrvan's anger with fire is not going to solve anything.

Or maybe Jrvan should stop being such a massive manbaby whenever jack is involved and direct his “anger” towards something like the treadmill so that he can lose weight and subsequently stop being such a massive ball of estrogen.

At least I'm not afraid of landlords. Actually, I think I'm going to charge you for that beard.

 

[tabby]

To clear some things because the pattern is the same. If we spend 1 minute with each other in a single day each day, and during that minute we only see someone acting in anger towards another, and others in turn only react to this persons anger with fire... Do we assume they are always angry and all they do every day, is obsess and be angry?

You experience 1 minute, a fraction of a person's entire day, and everyone believes they know everything about everyone, what they do, what they think, whether or not they do enough magick and whatever...

How many of you stopped and asked questions? How many of you put your bias aside, and looked at the bigger picture to analyse the situation from a calm head? On one hand, jack makes a post and as has already been pointed out by others, that seems to have a lot of negative prophesy with wording choices claiming these things "ARE going to happen". This is not healthy for anyone's morale, not for the person who has written this and not for anyone who reads it. Nor is it productive, effective, or realistic. One could look at this as coming from a place of fear, paranoia, and a lack of faith in the Gods and the RTR's. Or one could choose to take this as a possible threat with knowing ill intentions, and treat it as such.

But because Jrvan reacted in anger against this - choosing the latter of the equation based on his own experiences regarding jack - the focus is not on the potential issues of the above, but on simply fighting fire with fire to try get Jrvan to go away.

To make matters worse, people seem to think this solves things and don't think to change their own approaches when the exact same pattern plays out over and over. What happens is people just remain angry, the issues that probably should be looked at get glossed over as irrelevant or nonexistent, and the cycle continues. History repeats itself when something hasn't been solved, and only ever fighting Jrvan's anger with fire is not going to solve anything. The past should show you he can be reasonable if you take the effort to be reasonable with him. If you fly the red cloth in front of the bulls face, it's only going to charge at you.

Who and what does this help? Does it help jack to overcome his issues with viewing everything through a black lens? Does it help Jrvan to not feel like people don't take this place as seriously as they should because blatant issues are not getting solved?

None of you understand each other. Few of you care enough to try understand, and even fewer are willing to try a different path to handle these things more effectively.

No one claimed it had negative prophecy except you and the other person. No one.
The common denominator between all of this is you, not my message.

There is no negative prophecy in it. What I said is guaranteed to happen. It's a foregone conclusion. There is nothing demoralizing about any of it. Knowing the truth should be liberating and everyone should look forward to change.

I have absolute faith in the Gods and humanity and which is why I don't see any of the tulmunous things that are happening as bad but as opportunities for humanity to revolt.

If the WEF hadn't pushed ,the Dutch farmers wouldn't have protested.

If the prices wouldn't go up ,the people wouldn't have cared about the Biden administration.

The more they push ,the more opportunities for massive amounts of humans to rise up.

Which is why I wrote that there is a good chances humanity is going to rise up and overthrow the elites.

I don't see any of this as negative. I see them as opportunities.

People need to be MOTIVATED that these crises present opportunities for REVOLUTIONARY changes beyond the scope of decades of change, happening in just a couple of years.

That's where you tend to go south in your writings. The one thing set in stone is the end of the jews and their ilk. Whatever happens between that time and now is left to the unknown, and still to be decided as the world and all its people make their decisions. If we fool ourselves into thinking we completely know the future with certainty when we are no way near the level of sight and wisdom the Gods have, ironically, we fail to be prepared for what may come instead. That is the other danger of how you have presented this information.

Things can be taken into consideration, but one must not think they know accurately an outcome when it hasn't come yet, lest they wish to cause unnecessary troubles for themselves or others.

 

[Jrvan]

If you actually posted useful things rather than constantly biting jack's tail, people wouldn't be so annoyed at you. I don't care about my ego, it's just you having the same behaviour constantly.

Bullshit you don't care about your ego. This is all because you feel challenged by me. You never let it go, and you and your gang squad have been looking to even the score ever since. You all were in the wrong, and I challenged you and your false sense of authority on the forums. That's my great sin. You and the others would even side with a jew to get back at me for it.

It's your ego, not mine. I don't hate you.

Maybe you're right. Maybe the reason why you can't acknowledge the positive change and growth that has occurred from my presence on the forums since joining, isn't because of your ego, but actually because you can't see it due to your lack of advancement. Maybe I have been too hard on you.

 

[The Outlaw Torn]

If you valued your own path in life, you'd be putting your own energies elsewhere rather than chasing the negativity in the forums, Outlaw.

What is negative? You said jrvan is angry which I imagine to be negative. He certainly doesn’t feel positive about jack. We just want these little attacks of his to stop. It’s meaningless.

I bet more people roll their eyes and sigh upon seeing jrvans original reply to this post than jacks post itself. You good guy haters just can’t accept that you’re in the minority on this issue. Many people see the value he adds to forum and don’t accept the words of a vampirist landlord and a few airhead cronies like you and jrvan.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

Maybe the reason why you can't acknowledge the positive change and growth that has occurred from my presence on the forums since joining

What positive change and growth? Do you want to go back and read all of your comments on this topic? And please tell me which one of them has anything positive in it.

All I have seen from you on this topic is pure anger and hatred against everybody, and reacting in a way that just looks insane. Which is the reason why people were laughing at you, or at least the reason why I was. You are a joke. And even the people who were trying to help you without openly laughing in your face had to do it by admitting they were trying very hard to calm you down, because you are very not calm.

And of course you blame every single person except yourself for your own emotions and your own actions. You are the one who lacks self awareness.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

......

This is a reply to what you said to me on the other topic, but I think this is a better place for it.


You can like me or hate me. It is your choice and it makes no difference to me. Your emotions are your own business, your own fault, and are controlled by yourself. So it has nothing to do with me whatever emotion you choose to carry around. If you choose to hate me, then ignore me and don't talk to me. And if you are going to say that your emotions are anybody's fault other than yourself, then this is something that you need to do more work on until you do have the ability to control yourself. And I do not mean this in a personal way against you because almost everyone in the world needs to become better with this.

If the exact same event happens to 10 different people, all of them will have a completely different interpretation of what happened that is determined by their emotions. A happy person says something happened that was not perfect and maybe was uncomfortable at the time, but it had a good outcome so it was a good thing. An angry person says something bad happened and was done by a group of evil people just for the purpose of trying to make him mad. And a sad person says something bad happened to him just because everything bad always happens to him. When really it was the same thing that happened to all of them, and they could choose to have a better life by choosing to have a different emotion.

It seems like you are often more like the angry person in this example. Every time that multiple people disagree with something you did, you start ranting about how everybody has a purposeful plot against you and are all working together against you. This is not true. For example me and Aquarius, we do not have any communication between us besides what is publicly written here that you can see for yourself. We are not working together, and we do not have any plan together. We independently and individually come to conclusions that we don't like something that you did, based on whatever each of us can see about the situation. And it is your own bad emotions that makes you think that we are working together against you. When really we are just being honest that we individually used our judgements to decide not to like something.

If instead you choose to have a better emotion, you would interpret things differently and you would not come to such an angry or bad conclusion. If you choose to have a happy emotion, your interpretation would be that we are trying to help you by showing you something that you keep doing that doesn't look good, so that you could change the way you do it and make yourself start to look better. And I believe that towards many people you do have a good intention and you are trying to do this exact same thing. But when the same thing is turned toward you, you get all mad.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

I find that answer to be biased and unconvincing.

Please stop making a fool out of yourself.

Everyone already knows.

Everyone knows.

https://youtu.be/rDcFMcQBnfM

I thought you were gonna put this song.

Www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChWCVRV8rhs&list=OLAK5uy_nWN42XgHWH2HBZE1OY2yo7d0pt-ICHfAQ&index=3

 

[Jrvan]

Maybe the reason why you can't acknowledge the positive change and growth that has occurred from my presence on the forums since joining

What positive change and growth? Do you want to go back and read all of your comments on this topic? And please tell me which one of them has anything positive in it.

All I have seen from you on this topic is pure anger and hatred against everybody, and reacting in a way that just looks insane. Which is the reason why people were laughing at you, or at least the reason why I was. You are a joke. And even the people who were trying to help you without openly laughing in your face had to do it by admitting they were trying very hard to calm you down, because you are very not calm.

And of course you blame every single person except yourself for your own emotions and your own actions. You are the one who lacks self awareness.

I'm talking to Aquarius. I don't care about your analytic drivel. Go analyze something that is more appropriate for your mental age level. This is too much for you.

 

[Dahaarkan]

I don't care about people who are angry or hate me. I don't even acknowledge your existence.

"Oh no the anonymous poster on the internet doesn't like me."

I DON'T CARE.

None of what you say is going to affect my real life in anyway.

Then why are you repeatedly replying to me. Are you hoping for my approval?

You "don't care"...okay mate see you in the next attention whoring dramatic exit thread.

 

[Dahaarkan]

To us both, this wasn't meant to be just another place on the internet, just another community of strangers... Truth, honor, justice, unity, etc., are the highest values held in the JoS. A community dedicated to Eternal Truth, and bonded by blood. So for him, he considers it a crime to go against these values and to be dishonest here for (what he sees as) selfish personal benefit / self-preservation, rather than for the good of the JoS.

Then why are you spending more time interacting with someone you loathe than focusing on contributing to the community and interacting with other members who may share your mindset and desires.

Being annoying is not a bannable offense and jack will not be banned for this. Jack is also not causing harm to anyone but himself. Literally all you have to do is block this person and they are removed from your experience interacting with the group.


I have said it already I don't think your hatred for this person is misplaced. But the time you spend interacting them is a total waste.

 

[Ramier108666]

......

This is a reply to what you said to me on the other topic, but I think this is a better place for it.


You can like me or hate me. It is your choice and it makes no difference to me. Your emotions are your own business, your own fault, and are controlled by yourself. So it has nothing to do with me whatever emotion you choose to carry around. If you choose to hate me, then ignore me and don't talk to me. And if you are going to say that your emotions are anybody's fault other than yourself, then this is something that you need to do more work on until you do have the ability to control yourself. And I do not mean this in a personal way against you because almost everyone in the world needs to become better with this.

If the exact same event happens to 10 different people, all of them will have a completely different interpretation of what happened that is determined by their emotions. A happy person says something happened that was not perfect and maybe was uncomfortable at the time, but it had a good outcome so it was a good thing. An angry person says something bad happened and was done by a group of evil people just for the purpose of trying to make him mad. And a sad person says something bad happened to him just because everything bad always happens to him. When really it was the same thing that happened to all of them, and they could choose to have a better life by choosing to have a different emotion.

It seems like you are often more like the angry person in this example. Every time that multiple people disagree with something you did, you start ranting about how everybody has a purposeful plot against you and are all working together against you. This is not true. For example me and Aquarius, we do not have any communication between us besides what is publicly written here that you can see for yourself. We are not working together, and we do not have any plan together. We independently and individually come to conclusions that we don't like something that you did, based on whatever each of us can see about the situation. And it is your own bad emotions that makes you think that we are working together against you. When really we are just being honest that we individually used our judgements to decide not to like something.

If instead you choose to have a better emotion, you would interpret things differently and you would not come to such an angry or bad conclusion. If you choose to have a happy emotion, your interpretation would be that we are trying to help you by showing you something that you keep doing that doesn't look good, so that you could change the way you do it and make yourself start to look better. And I believe that towards many people you do have a good intention and you are trying to do this exact same thing. But when the same thing is turned toward you, you get all mad.

Ol Argedco Luciftius, why is everyone getting caught up in this? I’m really trying to scratch my head around this and it seems almost futile. Jrvan and Jack are both being foolish in their own right, so let them be. Whatever you or anyone else says will not end their senseless bickering. It will only prolong the sillinesses that has perpetuated for now. We have bigger fish to fry brother. This is one fish that doesn’t need our attention, as it will be the same result as before.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

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All I did was mention how a fifth of all of his posts is him crying about Jack. I did not attach any kind of emotion or insult to that. My intention was to make him think about this and decide if it really is a good idea to always be crying about Jack in a fifth of his posts, or if it would make more sense to stop being so obsessed with him. And it would help him to instead spend his effort on something useful.

Other people mentioned how if you consider that this topic is a negative prophecy and think that that is a bad thing, why was it not mentioned on all of those other topics written by various different people where those topics are also similarly or equally a negative prophecy. Including posts by Maxine and Cobra. So why is it only complained about toward Jack, and not toward those other people for the same reason. This shows the basic dishonesty and the double standard, and that this is only about Jack and not about any negative prophecy.

Several people think that both of these are good points. And that the answer is that there is some strange and irrational obsession about Jack. Myself and multiple other people have had the intention to show to the obsessed person how clear and evident his obsession is so that he may realize how strange this is, and decide to change his behaviour to remove his obsession. As this would be the way to heal from this and stop this cycle from happening anymore. But this is my intention, and this is what my intention has been every time I mention what a large percentage of his posts is crying about Jack. Including many situations where Jack never even wrote anything on those topics and he brought him up in a completely unrelated situation just to cry about him.

He doesn't want to admit to his strange behaviour even when it is clearly shown to him. He instead decides to have hateful rants against everybody, when most of us were honestly trying to help him. But accepting this help would require admitting that he has a problem, and he seems to be too insecure to be able to do that. Hopefully one day he will become confident enough in himself that he is able to look at his imperfections and realize what all of us have been trying to show him. And realize how ridiculous it is to spend every week thinking about Jack and complaining about him. I honestly want Jrvan to become healthier and happier so that he can be stronger and more effective at helping our people, and this has always been my intentions behind showing him his problems so that he can decide to fix them and stop repeating them.

Dahaarkan is a great example of a confident and responsible man. He has more reason to hate Jack than probably anybody else, but you don't see a fifth of all of his posts being just to cry about him.

 

[Jrvan]

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All I did was mention how a fifth of all of his posts is him crying about Jack. I did not attach any kind of emotion or insult to that. My intention was to make him think about this and decide if it really is a good idea to always be crying about Jack in a fifth of his posts, or if it would make more sense to stop being so obsessed with him. And it would help him to instead spend his effort on something useful.

Other people mentioned how if you consider that this topic is a negative prophecy and think that that is a bad thing, why was it not mentioned on all of those other topics written by various different people where those topics are also similarly or equally a negative prophecy. Including posts by Maxine and Cobra. So why is it only complained about toward Jack, and not toward those other people for the same reason. This shows the basic dishonesty and the double standard, and that this is only about Jack and not about any negative prophecy.

Several people think that both of these are good points. And that the answer is that there is some strange and irrational obsession about Jack. Myself and multiple other people have had the intention to show to the obsessed person how clear and evident his obsession is so that he may realize how strange this is, and decide to change his behaviour to remove his obsession. As this would be the way to heal from this and stop this cycle from happening anymore. But this is my intention, and this is what my intention has been every time I mention what a large percentage of his posts is crying about Jack. Including many situations where Jack never even wrote anything on those topics and he brought him up in a completely unrelated situation just to cry about him.

He doesn't want to admit to his strange behaviour even when it is clearly shown to him. He instead decides to have hateful rants against everybody, when most of us were honestly trying to help him. But accepting this help would require admitting that he has a problem, and he seems to be too insecure to be able to do that. Hopefully one day he will become confident enough in himself that he is able to look at his imperfections and realize what all of us have been trying to show him. And realize how ridiculous it is to spend every week thinking about Jack and complaining about him. I honestly want Jrvan to become healthier and happier so that he can be stronger and more effective at helping our people, and this has always been my intentions behind showing him his problems so that he can decide to fix them and stop repeating them.

Dahaarkan is a great example of a confident and responsible man. He has more reason to hate Jack than probably anybody else, but you don't see a fifth of all of his posts being just to cry about him.

Why are you wasting Ramier's time by trying to justify yourself to him (by accusing me of all your own bullshit, no less)? You always have to pretend to be perfect. And you'll deny that too as you have before because it also makes you look imperfect. Basically no one can charge you with anything or point out any flaw of yours, and everyone is just making it up. You'll always just deny everything that anyone says about you, and you'll always try to fucking justify yourself even when you can't. You're a phony loser. You belong in the same loser's boat as Jack. Go sink with him. Loser.

 

[Jrvan]

I find that answer to be biased and unconvincing.

Please stop making a fool out of yourself.

Everyone already knows.

Everyone knows.

https://youtu.be/rDcFMcQBnfM

I thought you were gonna put this song.

Www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChWCVRV8rhs&list=OLAK5uy_nWN42XgHWH2HBZE1OY2yo7d0pt-ICHfAQ&index=3

Leave Tabby out of it. She didn't even do anything. Fucking bullies. Whenever I think you swines can't get any worse, you do. You have NO honor. None.

 

[tabby]

To us both, this wasn't meant to be just another place on the internet, just another community of strangers... Truth, honor, justice, unity, etc., are the highest values held in the JoS. A community dedicated to Eternal Truth, and bonded by blood. So for him, he considers it a crime to go against these values and to be dishonest here for (what he sees as) selfish personal benefit / self-preservation, rather than for the good of the JoS.

Then why are you spending more time interacting with someone you loathe than focusing on contributing to the community and interacting with other members who may share your mindset and desires.

Being annoying is not a bannable offense and jack will not be banned for this. Jack is also not causing harm to anyone but himself. Literally all you have to do is block this person and they are removed from your experience interacting with the group.


I have said it already I don't think your hatred for this person is misplaced. But the time you spend interacting them is a total waste.

You mistake me here, Dahaarkan, but I can't blame you for that. It's understandable that people still think I personally have a feud under my skin, the past colours anyone's views of how I am in the present. Maybe seeing Jrvan heated against jack causes people to think I am being the same way because we are partners. If you follow along with how my commenting patterns have been for a while, quite a fair amount of my time these days goes elsewhere to contribute to this place, including but is not limited to (as there is work I do not know if I am allowed to talk about): a personal project I have been working on for the forums, and my personal magickal work for myself and my partner along with RTR's.

My commenting patterns here should reveal to anyone who can look past the old, are addressing more to those involved directly that worsen the problems surrounding the issues regarding my partner and jack, rather than jack himself. The two comments I made to him specifically was, first, just a neutral counter to unrelated nonsense to what I wanted to know, and the second, unsolicited advice regarding the counter productiveness of what he claims he is attempting to achieve with his post. My language choice is also probably not what those here are used to either, if you compare how I am behaving as opposed to others here. Since I can put my differences and past aside to still offer something positive to a person who once hurt me, then I expect the same to be done by those who claim superiority over me in age of dedication.

What's happening under this thread, for me at least, is a just raindrop in my timeline of things.

 

[Aquarius]

Bullshit you don't care about your ego. This is all because you feel challenged by me. You never let it go, and you and your gang squad have been looking to even the score ever since. You all were in the wrong, and I challenged you and your false sense of authority on the forums. That's my great sin. You and the others would even side with a jew to get back at me for it.

It's your ego, not mine. I don't hate you.

Maybe you're right. Maybe the reason why you can't acknowledge the positive change and growth that has occurred from my presence on the forums since joining, isn't because of your ego, but actually because you can't see it due to your lack of advancement. Maybe I have been too hard on you.

Yours is just flaming, remember we can flame you too, remember you have a cuckold relationship with your wife, where she has 2 lovers.