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Lunar Dance 666 said:
As for the things you say, it may be the norm over there in Asia to put tremendous pressure into finding a husband or wife and to start a family, but for those from the USA and Europe it generally isn't.
Not only has that idea no root here, it really rubs the wrong way, especially among those that have a more rebellious nature.
Gee, I wonder why. :roll:


Hint: We are being genocided.
 
Aquarius said:
jrvan said:
Jack said:
All of our lives are meaningless if it weren't for the future children.

That says it all.
Children are the future of a race, without them there is actually no future. You have been quite itched by his last affirmations on children, perhaps you have some hangups about them?

Do you get off on stating the obvious? Are you so autistic that you can only understand things in the most literal manner, ignoring obvious implications and subtleties? Or are you just another Jack minion?

I shouldn't even need to spell it out for you, and I shouldn't even be wasting my breath. Like I had no idea that Jack had so many attorneys on the forums.

He is implying and reaffirming what he said before: that life is meaningless and full of depression without children, and that a human being can never find fulfillment in life without children. Particularly women. He is saying that women only have the purpose of making babies, and that any other role in life and any other kind of path they take as human beings will always be empty, devoid of meaning, and make them miserable. If you can't see that then don't fucking talk to me, don't try to "help me see" the light of something so suspiciously obvious, just go back to your autistic circle jerking squad with your ultimate leader Jack. I'm tired of this shit. The injustice here is appalling. You and others turned a blind eye to everything that scumbag said to me, and you didn't even give a shit. You never spoke in my defense like you do for him. You never stood up for my wife, and I bet you and others bought into the myth that he and others kept spreading that Tabby is a fake identity. She is a real person with real feelings, and you people have treated her like a stranger while defending constantly the monster who viciously attacked her many times. I'm ashamed to even still be here in this community, and I've been disgusted by the lack of support while watching Jack continue to be glorified and protected while my wife and I got constantly defamed and attacked for no fucking reason. Jack just gets away with fucking everything because people are used to his behavior and tolerate it, and even think it's normal. I should have kept my pride and left when I said I was going to. No self respecting man would have ever stayed for as long as I did while taking such abuse and watching his wife take such abuse. I only stayed because I thought I was helping Father Satan and his people in some small way, and also because the High Priest told me I belonged here and that I should stay. But I won't anymore, not even for the High Priest's wishes. I don't belong here. I deserve so much better than this. I have self respect, and I WILL NOT FUCKING TOLERATE THIS ANYMORE. I WILL NOT WATCH MY WIFE CRY AS ASSHOLES ATTACK HER NAME, HER WOMANHOOD, HER HONOR, AND DENY HER EXISTENCE! All while the ones who pretend to call themselves her family just fucking watch and defend the one spitting venom at her. I REFUSE. I am disgusted. I am horrified. I will not stay here in such a toxic environment of simple minded fools like you who have the nerve to imply that I hate children. Fuck you, Aquarius. You think you're funny to act like captain obvious pointing out something so needlessly simple to me as if I don't know it? You think it makes you clever? Grow a fucking brain.
 
Henu the Great said:
Lunar Dance 666 said:
As for the things you say, it may be the norm over there in Asia to put tremendous pressure into finding a husband or wife and to start a family, but for those from the USA and Europe it generally isn't.
Not only has that idea no root here, it really rubs the wrong way, especially among those that have a more rebellious nature.
Gee, I wonder why. :roll:


Hint: We are being genocided.

And we're spiritually genociding the enemy. It will all solve itself as things manifest physically, and things will get better. This fear mongering shit and attitude like "Satanists have to make babies RIGHT NOW!" is retarded. White people are still breeding even now all around the world. The immediate danger and alarm that people feel is transient and will pass, and everyone will feel ridiculous for panicking so much after the threat is gone. All this time that was wasted telling people to breed like rabbits could have been spent doing another RTR to make the war end faster. The White race is not going to end, and anyone freaking out over this temporary feeling of peril is stupid. Anyone who shames other people for not wanting kids, or lying to women and saying that infertile women, old women, or any woman who chooses not to have children will never find fulfillment as a human being... is stupid. If life without children is meaningless then the children's lives are also meaningless and have no point unto themselves. Life is just meaningless apparently, and we have to pass it on as quickly as possible to get rid of it like it's some kind of gross burden. That is the mentality that Jack was pushing and implying, and that is the context in which you are saying this to Lunar Dance.

Consider the context before you carelessly walk into a conversation, because the meaning of something changes dramatically depending on the context. You are throwing energetic weight to a side without even realizing it, and you don't understand what you are doing. If this was a different topic with a different context in a different discussion then your statement would possibly be neutral and valid.

Actually, fuck it. You're going to be like everyone else and deny all of this, make excuses, or act like you don't understand what I'm talking about. And you probably don't. Everyone's blind.

No more wasting my breath. You all can sink in oblivion of your own ignorance. You all need someone else to think for you, and that's the difference between me and others. I came to the same conclusions years before that Maxine and Hooded Cobra did, many of the things on the JoS website matched my own thinking. That's why I knew it was true, and it was exactly what I was looking for. It just gave me the confirmation and the validation that I was seeking, and the feeling of peace from knowing that there are other intelligent beings out there who aren't blind and crazy. Maxine's writings were a gift to me, as are High Priest Hooded Cobra's. When I read their sermons, I actually absorb it and try to understand it. I spend significant amounts of time reading and re-reading the same sermons until I feel I have sufficiently grasped it and properly understood the messages and points contained within, including all the subtlety.
 
For all you gender locked males out there, read it and weep:
She is the liberator of women. She is the patron of strong women and a Goddess of womens' rights. Lilith represents sexual liberation and sex for pleasure. She is the exaltation of the feminine divine. Lilith also stands for abortion rights and birth control. She is also known to help women in childbirth.
https://satanisgod.org/www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Lilith.html

This is the Goddess whom Jack and other retarded males like him so vehemently oppose. This is who you are fighting against. Opposing the female sex is opposing her.

Every time you attack the female sex, you are fighting for jews against women. Every time you fight against one of these things that Mother Lilith stands for, you are fighting for the jews against women. Any time you support Jack in his campaign against women, you are fighting for jews against women.

Stop being retarded, tiny males. Stop being loyal to your false gender which isn't even truly male, but rather could be called the jewish gender which supplanted the male gender. You may have male genitals, but you're living in corrupted concepts and ideas of what a man is.

You are an absolute embarrassment to your Pagan male ancestors, and you will continue to bring shame to the male sex the longer you cling to and defend this false male gender. Rip this jewish falsehood apart and create a new male gender, one that isn't based in hating and suppressing females. One that is actually strong and stands for true justice, and fights the jews instead of women. One that stands tall and embraces the future instead of defending and clinging to a broken empty past of empty corrupted traditions. All you know and have been taught is wrong. Throw it all away, and shed your skin. Be brave enough to imagine new data, a new future, images that you haven't seen before. Find something sacred which the jews haven't shown you a thousand times already in the same jewish patterns. If all you follow is what you know, then you will only ever experience what has come before. Look to history for what that haunting image looks like.

I'm already predicting that the same whiny brats as usual will attack me for this, and get triggered by it and rush to defend themselves which is effectively outing themselves (that thought never occurs to them, like when males reacted to Lunar Dance asking rhetorically where were all you men, and they rushed to defend themselves. Damn that was funny). Here's the deal: if you get triggered by this then it probably applies to you. Lmao. If you can read all of this, and feel like it doesn't apply to you and thus not say anything, then it probably doesn't apply to you. Those who can accept the truth here and how it applies to other men, without getting triggered, are well on the path to reforging true masculinity in the world.

This is my last gift. To all of my adoring hecklers, go ahead and laugh at me behind my back when I'm gone, and celebrate a false victory against the big bad wolf who busted your tiny little balls and made you feel uncomfortable in your false sense of authority and false Godhood. When you finally realize the shape of things to come in the glorious Pagan future, you will all be lining up to apologize to me and deeply regretting your folly and stubbornness. I will save you the time: all of your future apologies are eternally rejected. When you see that I was right, you can eat your shame and regret all alone. I won't be around to witness such a shameful sight.

If you didn't want it from my mouth then I hope you will at least be consistent and double down on your foolish convictions when you read the High Priest's sermons and see that he said the same things that I did. Fight him next.
 
Henu the Great said:
Lunar Dance 666 said:
As for the things you say, it may be the norm over there in Asia to put tremendous pressure into finding a husband or wife and to start a family, but for those from the USA and Europe it generally isn't.
Not only has that idea no root here, it really rubs the wrong way, especially among those that have a more rebellious nature.
Gee, I wonder why. :roll:


Hint: We are being genocided.

One swing of the pendulum to the next. That is the game of the enemy they distract gentiles with while they still live and destroy everything. Neither side of that pendulum is a solution to the problem at hand. Otherwise we simply continue the cycle of losing gentiles to the enemy plans. If whites started breeding breeding breeding, well... you simply have more slaves for the enemy because that problem is still at large and infecting these countries.

There wouldn't be this crisis of birthrates and family issues if not for the immigration problem and the enemy sticking their beak in where people don't want it, because frankly, whites are still having children despite the unnatural and artificial hardship and propaganda. The situation is just looking as bad as is because of being invaded by non-whites thanks to the enemy. The focus must be on advancement, and destroying the enemy plans, otherwise no amount of creating families will save anyone. People who can have families they will choose to without any pressure and such, there's little sense in putting pressure on SS to have families as soon as possible, and shame them for engaging in "childless sex" and pushing illogical things about protected sex... like, seriously?
 
Blitzkreig [JG said:
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Who are you referring to, and are you open to reconciliation?
The posters above. I am only interested hearing an apology for insults from jrvan, otherwise forget it.
 
Blitzkreig [JG said:
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Jack said:

The main problem with having kids is the time and resource investment. I'm not saying having kids should never be done. I recognize that society needs to at least hit the replacement rate to be functional, which should allow every family to have kids and therefore be happy as you say.

I'm not saying having kids is not a component of health, but I would be careful to say that is the primary solution to or cause of depression.

The desolate conditions we birth our kids in are due to the enemy. At this point in time, we can choose to invest our time into children, or RTRs and advancement. The enemy has always been the biggest obstacle to our fertility and mental health, both by creating feminism, and poverty conditions.

Yes, HPS Maxine had kids, but I believe they were reasonably self-sufficient when she was running JoS. She was also very advanced from past lives and much more competent in magical affairs than a new person. For any who complete the MO, their fertility would be restored, as well.

As far as the Gods and their creation of us, you can see the huge amount of energy they have to invest to save us. So again, creating children is a huge investment.

Should SS be childless in their pursuit of magical goals? No, but they shouldn't sacrifice critical periods of their development just to have kids. Even if it does alleviate depression by some large amount, it will certainly cause immediate stress as well.

There are many poor people with tons of kids who would be happier from the fruits of Satanism than from children. On the contrary, if an SS woman is able to secure freedom from work obligations, then I would strongly advocate for childbirth.

I'm not advocating poor fertility as a rule, but rather just discretion during these turbulent next few years, which I believe will be climatic against the enemy. After that, our future will be much brighter and more conducive to kids.

Your answer seems to me to be the most accurate, also because of its impartiality.

Having children if you have the right conditions such having a suitable partner you love, enough time and sufficient financial resources, yes of course.

To be obsessed with having children at all costs "because it is my duty" and it is not the right time, like ending up with the wrong partner because of that, lack of time or economic resources to raise them properly, then no, not like that.
 
Wotanwarrior said:
Your answer seems to me to be the most accurate, also because of its impartiality.

Having children if you have the right conditions such having a suitable partner you love, enough time and sufficient financial resources, yes of course.

To be obsessed with having children at all costs "because it is my duty" and it is not the right time, like ending up with the wrong partner because of that, lack of time or economic resources to raise them properly, then no, not like that.

My larger concern was not with the "duty" aspect of child-bearing, but rather that he was assuming it to be a cure for a depressive state that anyone without children would have. That idea would cause him to support having a kid as fast as possible, whereas duty wouldn't necessarily.

The link that I added shows an SS mother clearly in distress, demonstrating the opposite of Jack's idea. Someone may claim that more examples are needed, but good luck finding another SS in a similar position.
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Satan

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