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Serenithi

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I’m writing this post for the second time and I don’t know why it hasn’t been published for a week, because I was too aggressive in my statements in it or you just don’t want to talk about such a topic, it doesn’t matter.
Hi I read on the forum from the priests that they say that humanity will collapse without prostitution. This shocked me, and I want to figure out why and how, maybe we are talking about different prostitution?
I don’t see anything wrong with two mentally healthy adults agreeing to have sex, but prostitution is not normal
I believe that every reasonable person will agree with me that prostitution is violence against a woman, a cover in an ugly wrapper that sounds like “well, she herself went into prostitution, so this is not violence and ok to do”
I would really like to believe that our priests are talking about some other kind of prostitution, and not about the kind that is happening now in our world, it is very painful and scary for me to think that in Satanism it is generally possible for such a terrible business to exist as the sex business, please help me figure it out
 
The problems do not lie in what consenting adults do, but when underlying and overshadowing existence is on the low end of the spectrum spiritually speaking at this moment for us on this planet. The topics of abuse, fraud, coercion, and so forth are tightly tied into this, but this does not mean that in essence people can not make a deal about having sex together.

This, like pretty much everything will be 'fixed' and refined as time goes on and our progress manifests more and more going forward.
 
Darethi said:
I’m writing this post for the second time and I don’t know why it hasn’t been published for a week, because I was too aggressive in my statements in it or you just don’t want to talk about such a topic, it doesn’t matter.
Hi I read on the forum from the priests that they say that humanity will collapse without prostitution. This shocked me, and I want to figure out why and how, maybe we are talking about different prostitution?
I don’t see anything wrong with two mentally healthy adults agreeing to have sex, but prostitution is not normal
I believe that every reasonable person will agree with me that prostitution is violence against a woman, a cover in an ugly wrapper that sounds like “well, she herself went into prostitution, so this is not violence and ok to do”
I would really like to believe that our priests are talking about some other kind of prostitution, and not about the kind that is happening now in our world, it is very painful and scary for me to think that in Satanism it is generally possible for such a terrible business to exist as the sex business, please help me figure it out

Reality is far more complex than jewish radical feminist arguments of 'victim' and 'aggressor' extrapolated to every situation ever. Arguing about this from such a hysterical perspective is pointless. If you actually evolve you will understand this.

Not only that but depriving people of sex creates extremely dangerous precedents as HPS Maxine explained countless times.
 
I'm not saying that people should abstain from sex, but why go to prostitutes? What if the prostitute doesn't want this? What if she was kidnapped and kept as a slave? What if she is abused in this business? Just why don’t people find good people who want this themselves and who are completely free to choose? Or why not masturbate?

You are right that prostituted people are not necessarily victims and clients are not necesarily aggressors, but in this period of our civilization this entire industry is saturated with disease, violence, murder, theft and coercion of people, slavery, drugs and much more.

Maybe I’m at too backward a level of development that I don’t understand much, but even if prostitution is completely cleared of all crap in future, it still seems terrible to me that someone can buy a person and prostitute will have to do something sexual without right to agree or refuse. Will prostitutes be able to refuse if they don't want to be with a certain client? Could they refuse not to do something? Will anyone make sure that violence is not used against prostituted people?

Maybe I care too much about this issue and it’s stupid to think about it so much and strongly, but after many stories from people around me about what they experienced when they were prostitutes and after I experienced many cases of harassment as a child from adult men, I can’t stop thinking about all this. Am I overreacting? I don't know, but I'm very scared.
If there is any grammer mistake I'm very sorry, English is not my native language
 
A lot of people think about a topic from one point of view. You are focusing on the negative, which is very valid, as many people are sold into sex slavery from a young age.

But the higher form of prostitution is mutually beneficial, not abusive (I guess unless they are both into S&M?) and with full consent. Think more "high end escorts", not street hookers on crack or meth.

Also, masturbation isn't enough for most people. Sex and intimacy is not just about an orgasm.


I hope my reply helped clarify some things.
 
Darethi said:
I'm not saying that people should abstain from sex, but why go to prostitutes? What if the prostitute doesn't want this? What if she was kidnapped and kept as a slave? What if she is abused in this business? Just why don’t people find good people who want this themselves and who are completely free to choose? Or why not masturbate?

You are right that prostituted people are not necessarily victims and clients are not necesarily aggressors, but in this period of our civilization this entire industry is saturated with disease, violence, murder, theft and coercion of people, slavery, drugs and much more.

Maybe I’m at too backward a level of development that I don’t understand much, but even if prostitution is completely cleared of all crap in future, it still seems terrible to me that someone can buy a person and prostitute will have to do something sexual without right to agree or refuse. Will prostitutes be able to refuse if they don't want to be with a certain client? Could they refuse not to do something? Will anyone make sure that violence is not used against prostituted people?

Maybe I care too much about this issue and it’s stupid to think about it so much and strongly, but after many stories from people around me about what they experienced when they were prostitutes and after I experienced many cases of harassment as a child from adult men, I can’t stop thinking about all this. Am I overreacting? I don't know, but I'm very scared.
If there is any grammer mistake I'm very sorry, English is not my native language

The criminal industries are indeed everywhere, and unfortunately it is part of the material world of our civilization given the level of people. This needs active pursuit of denial, punishment and cleaning in a civilisation, but you cannot stop these wholly because you cannot stop for example animals doing certain instinctive things or stupidity and very negative karmic movements.

Yes, very bad things exist in our world and in many other planets, but this is a layer of this and there are good things too. Some women enjoy working this job and also, men of certain level and period in their existence, need sexual manifestation. Not all men are satisfied looking at screens for vaginas, and having no other option, they want something real and as everything in the world is an exchange, whether you like it or not, these will happen and you cannot stop them as it is not about ethics, negative things but about the nature of the body and instinctive being that we are.

That's why prostitution could be "regulated" and so on, so that trafficking of people stops and the women that either desire this or are in necessity accepting to do this, can do this safely.

Aside from the direct approach of this, there are crazy number of women that do this by themselves with some people, and no one knows and so on. What you talk about is traficking of people and criminal behaviour, not an actual girl deciding to offer sexual activity in exchange for money or something else, and this is where things shouldn't be denied in a world where this cannot be held down.
 
Prostitution should not even exist, it is simply the result of a malfunctioning society where people are distorted in their nature, so a person actually polygamous becomes monogomous and Christian, so secretly seeks easy sex then prostitution instead of having more open relationships, and the speech is very long, but you understand, then the females above all are too closed mentally and christian, without intuition they can get to relationships without sex so only gossip, which for males becomes too limiting and unsatisfying, males have sexual needs even just for leisure and many Christian females do not even get to that... So what do males with unsatisfied sexual needs, surrounded by mentally closed and too Christian females therefore also mind-crazy... That's why it's logical they go to sluts.
 
Antireligioso said:
Prostitution should not even exist, it is simply the result of a malfunctioning society where people are distorted in their nature, so a person actually polygamous becomes monogomous and Christian, so secretly seeks easy sex then prostitution instead of having more open relationships, and the speech is very long, but you understand, then the females above all are too closed mentally and christian, without intuition they can get to relationships without sex so only gossip, which for males becomes too limiting and unsatisfying, males have sexual needs even just for leisure and many Christian females do not even get to that... So what do males with unsatisfied sexual needs, surrounded by mentally closed and too Christian females therefore also mind-crazy... That's why it's logical they go to sluts.

Prostitution is normal in a functional society. We are seeing only the lower aspects of Prostitution at this point, and along with Christian indoctrination is also why this is seen as a negative thing currently.

Sex is a human need. High Priestess Maxine has elaborated on this before.

As our world shifts towards a satanic world once again. Everything will begin to reflect this properly and things wil fall back into natural order and have better manifestations. Including Prostitution.
 
You're partly right, but try to think how many hours of work you have to work to pay a prostitute. Sex is a fairly daily need... You understand that prostitution is too pushed on the God money, so instead of having free and positive relationships with some beautiful partner they become monogamous and spend on sluts secretly, without getting caught by the wife.. It's just inconsistency in the end. Then also the sluts, think if they are always happy to be ridden by strangers maybe even obese and ugly... it is not even a nice job in my opinion and it could be all free with one or more positive relationships with some nice partner, that's all... So it is the fault of society and the mentality of many females too much like Christian nuns, too closed of mentality.. This is why prostitution exists. Then spend money on a rubbing of penis with a condom, that is, it is also bad to spend money on these things.. which in kind are free..
 
As others stated before me, prostitution is Satanic, but there must be some measures taken:
1) General cleanliness and hygiene
2) No pregnancies
3) Respectful treatment
 
A lot of people think about a topic from one point of view. You are focusing on the negative, which is very valid, as many people are sold into sex slavery from a young age.

But the higher form of prostitution is mutually beneficial, not abusive (I guess unless they are both into S&M?) and with full consent. Think more "high end escorts", not street hookers on crack or meth.
This is exactly what I was thinking pretty much when I read OPs comment.
I have expanded my world view through watching various sex workers talk about their career. For example - There are people out there with (and without) disabilities who will probably never know what intimacy feels like without a sex worker.
Yes, there is a dark side to sex work. There is rampant dishonesty (cheating), manipulation, sex trafficking, drugs, STDs, sexual assault, unwanted pregnancies etc but these things are a result of abysmally poor management and rights.
I feel (like many others have said) prostitution should be well managed and sex workers should have the same rights as any other form of work. Some stipulations should be made though, as you don't want to make it so strict that a business fails.
 
I'm not saying that people should abstain from sex, but why go to prostitutes? What if the prostitute doesn't want this? What if she was kidnapped and kept as a slave? What if she is abused in this business? Just why don’t people find good people who want this themselves and who are completely free to choose? Or why not masturbate?

You are right that prostituted people are not necessarily victims and clients are not necesarily aggressors, but in this period of our civilization this entire industry is saturated with disease, violence, murder, theft and coercion of people, slavery, drugs and much more.

Maybe I’m at too backward a level of development that I don’t understand much, but even if prostitution is completely cleared of all crap in future, it still seems terrible to me that someone can buy a person and prostitute will have to do something sexual without right to agree or refuse. Will prostitutes be able to refuse if they don't want to be with a certain client? Could they refuse not to do something? Will anyone make sure that violence is not used against prostituted people?

Maybe I care too much about this issue and it’s stupid to think about it so much and strongly, but after many stories from people around me about what they experienced when they were prostitutes and after I experienced many cases of harassment as a child from adult men, I can’t stop thinking about all this. Am I overreacting? I don't know, but I'm very scared.
If there is any grammer mistake I'm very sorry, English is not my native language
Prostitutes are okay when you are full of things you shouldnt be :oops:
 
I’m writing this post for the second time and I don’t know why it hasn’t been published for a week, because I was too aggressive in my statements in it or you just don’t want to talk about such a topic, it doesn’t matter.
Hi I read on the forum from the priests that they say that humanity will collapse without prostitution. This shocked me, and I want to figure out why and how, maybe we are talking about different prostitution?
I don’t see anything wrong with two mentally healthy adults agreeing to have sex, but prostitution is not normal
I believe that every reasonable person will agree with me that prostitution is violence against a woman, a cover in an ugly wrapper that sounds like “well, she herself went into prostitution, so this is not violence and ok to do”
I would really like to believe that our priests are talking about some other kind of prostitution, and not about the kind that is happening now in our world, it is very painful and scary for me to think that in Satanism it is generally possible for such a terrible business to exist as the sex business, please help me figure it out
As a knowledgeable person on this topic, I will say that a prostitute is not always a slave or a Jew. They are either students or not culture. Although, I didn't dig into their DNA. Maybe there is Jewish blood there. Yes, there are cases of slavery, but I don't know anything about them. The students are going for a good life. Hmm, though, there's more kept here. The kept is already more or less great and I support it. Well, in general... there is also a real boorishness and garbage.
( Inaccurate mats, uncultured, and such) Or maybe there are emergency situations. For example, to feed your child.

in general... prostitutes are slaves, Jewish women, emergencies, students. Although, the last one is probably the kept already.

By the way, the elite priestesses of love in ancient Greece were very interesting and educated, and their clients were of the appropriate level. It was the same in the Russian Empire. Why shouldn't there be such prostitution?...

Sorry for my bad English)
 
Sometimes males also partake in prostitution, not just the females of the genders here. Sometimes life throws people a curve ball and they have to bend with the tides that be in order to survive and live on a day to day basis. Not always is a prostitute coersed into such a situation, whereby they are enforced into sexual slavery, some people actually enjoy sex, and think why not get paid for a service, when everyone else who works is more or less a slave to someone else. We all have to make a living somehow. Others who work in the industry are left homeless due to mitigating circumstances out of their control and they have to turn to prostitution and or strip dancing to live. Some of course are coersed and enslaved, but for the general consensus there are more who take it to better themselves for a better education because getting an education is costly, and as reiterated, some have not got anyone to help them so they turn to doing these types of jobs especially if they lack work experience or if people will not give them an opportunity to work a "normie" job like many of us might well do. I am not a fan of prostitution myself, but for those who choose to work in that field for their reasons and do not harm others in the process, including themselves (mentally, spiritually and physically speaking), then imo I think it is ok, afterall, prostitution has been around for quite a long long time.
 
Sometimes males also partake in prostitution, not just the females of the genders here. Sometimes life throws people a curve ball and they have to bend with the tides that be in order to survive and live on a day to day basis.
Unfortunately I have read that a lot of single women seeking male services end up getting targeted for attacks (by the worker or goons they know) because they are vulnerable and alone, women are spreading cautionary tales so it seems other factors scare away business. These are things we must also take into consideration and improve.
 
Unfortunately I have read that a lot of single women seeking male services end up getting targeted for attacks (by the worker or goons they know) because they are vulnerable and alone, women are spreading cautionary tales so it seems other factors scare away business. These are things we must also take into consideration and improve.
I have no doubts that this occurs, again, not just the women who are targeted, we also have to place into consideration those who are males, seeking other males sexually, whereby they too could also be seen as possible targets. Generally on a whole we all have to take care of ourselves and eachother, so we do not end up being in the midst of senseless violations and harm, solicited or otherwise. PS-: Sorry for the delayed response. I hope that life has been treating you amazingly so =)
 
Those in favor of it always say "it's a business deal between two adults".
Kind of shady deal though in my opinion. I used to go to prostitutes, but not anymore, for reasons I won't go into anymore.
But mainly I think it's shady. Sexual intimacy from someone being bought with money; how can that ever be a 'high end' thing? I just don't get that.
 
I’m writing this post for the second time and I don’t know why it hasn’t been published for a week, because I was too aggressive in my statements in it or you just don’t want to talk about such a topic, it doesn’t matter.
Hi I read on the forum from the priests that they say that humanity will collapse without prostitution. This shocked me, and I want to figure out why and how, maybe we are talking about different prostitution?
I don’t see anything wrong with two mentally healthy adults agreeing to have sex, but prostitution is not normal
I believe that every reasonable person will agree with me that prostitution is violence against a woman, a cover in an ugly wrapper that sounds like “well, she herself went into prostitution, so this is not violence and ok to do”
I would really like to believe that our priests are talking about some other kind of prostitution, and not about the kind that is happening now in our world, it is very painful and scary for me to think that in Satanism it is generally possible for such a terrible business to exist as the sex business, please help me figure it out
Why did they say society would collapse without prostitution? Prostitution is more rife than ever before, young beautiful western girls are ordered after dinner, after the pub, club, on an app by Jews, arabs and whites every evening. There is no shortage of girls due to the corruption of our financial system, where the rich print money to enslave everyone else. Young girls are at the bottom of the pyramid selling themselves for almost nothing to pay rent to their financiers. If people here don’t believe me, go on to the multiple amount of sugar daddy sites, and see how many girls will meet you and have sex for 150£.
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Satan

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