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Sundara said:
If it’s mandated that I accept Maxine as a weird god, count me out. Or cobra as my führer. Seems like that is the case. And while I could explain more there isn’t a need to. Y’all have this. I believe in you. Big red A on my forehead.

It's not mandated at all, ministry are supposed to be here only for guidance and support as stated on the website. Whether people actually act this way is a different matter, but you do not have to accept anything least of all the statements you presented. I know exactly what you read and "where" you spent your time to reach your original conclusions about the clergy here, as I have read the exact same and been to where you have. I think you must understand where such material is coming from and the inherent bias of those who created it, while there may be some truth much is distorted and exaggerated beyond reality due to animosity. You must way all evidence and claims through this lense, if all fails there are no mediators so you can ask the gods about these issues.

AVE Satanas!
 
Endsieg_Enjoyer said:
Sundara said:
If it’s mandated that I accept Maxine as a weird god, count me out. Or cobra as my führer. Seems like that is the case. And while I could explain more there isn’t a need to. Y’all have this. I believe in you. Big red A on my forehead.

It's not mandated at all, ministry are supposed to be here only for guidance and support as stated on the website. Whether people actually act this way is a different matter, but you do not have to accept anything least of all the statements you presented. I know exactly what you read and "where" you spent your time to reach your original conclusions about the clergy here, as I have read the exact same and been to where you have. I think you must understand where such material is coming from and the inherent bias of those who created it, while there may be some truth much is distorted and exaggerated beyond reality due to animosity. You must way all evidence and claims through this lense, if all fails there are no mediators so you can ask the gods about these issues.

AVE Satanas!


Comprende actually, I respect this response.
 
Dahaarkan said:
Betelgeuse said:

These issues arise when people don't take the spiritual side seriously and treat Satanism as more of a side hobby or just an online chatting group they belong to. Sundara for example, if they are not a jew, this is a member who does not meditate, and does not take any of this seriously.

People who do not take Satanism seriously crave a sense of drama or importance and this is something that all of these characters have in common. They will often carry out absurd attempts at rebelling or plotting against JoS, or making some declaration of hostility towards JoS, or other such things. The irony in such characters is that they make grand claims of hating JoS but can never actually leave JoS and try to come back time and time again, and when exposed they will beg not to be kicked out of the group.


The forum is a marvelous tool for communication but it is NOT Satanism. Satanism is power meditation, it is communication with the gods, it is working towards making manifest Satan's will. The forum is a tool that facilitates this but for some people, the forums are all there is to Satanism. And thus they are fanatical when it comes to these little social climbing games, building their reputation and trying to gain some sort of status in the group to feel accomplished. And when this gets stale, they turn against JoS because in their mind they are the protagonist of an anime and they will carry out a spectacular coup against HC or whatever and everything always turns out in their favor.

Of course the reality is they are simply exposed and then mocked relentlessly and completely embarrass themselves and accomplish nothing at all.

I think the spreading of misinformation, mental poisons and the like is something that must be addressed, but the above shouldn't even be taken seriously, because it's not serious. It's a terribly embarrassing and cringy situation that is of very little if any importance, and should be mocked for sure, but not taken too seriously if you ask me.

And anybody who takes Satanism seriously wouldn't behave like this, hence why I say that this person, and others who behave like this, do not meditate and do not take Satanism seriously. By consequence they should also not be taken seriously either. It's a shame because Sundara has made decent and helpful writings in the past.


Perhaps I’ve done too much. And without even making excuses. Do you get up at 6am, complete a whole routine for yourself and 2 other people, leave by 7-8, work 8+ hours, rinse and repeat - probably not, and then do your best to make a contribution? Do fucking rituals in your car on a lunch break? Try to protect people around you from shit, and then other people too, and does anyone actually do their best? Probably not. I know Maxine at least did do these things I’d think but who is to say that is all in anyones best interest, people clearly do not function their best when they’re burnt out. But for some reason this has all drained me more than anything. Some reason. Maybe it’s not proper mediation ladidadi the list goes on. Maybe some people should just admit taking some of this all too seriously is not for everyone without them being called jews or non satanists. Or even irrelevant. I’ve been basically manic for years because of the shit that has been on my plate, not in an out of control sense but in the sense that the life I’ve chosen does not allow for much of this “self-care” and it’s basically foreign. And maybe there were some programmings that I had maintained where my mind would only respond to information that is persecutory in nature, and that is probably what happens to most who fall off because of the filthy origins of the past. But when those things which ARE more important get at any sort of risk, I draw the line. I can only reprogram so much. Luckily what I do is meditative enough. If I have to be hoisted from this and remove myself from the equation I will. When people are in certain circumstances the mental effects are not avoidable. Yes I’ll continue my path with the gods because it never ends. It’s up to no one else.

I wouldn’t want to leave until my information is gone though. It’d be unjust in my eyes. But envy is contrary to what I feel like another said in regard to Maxine and while I don’t want to relate to her too much or say that we are equals in any way, since everything is supposedly very hierarchy based here I’d say perhaps women really should not lead but who else you know. I certainly wouldn’t have done all of that. I wouldn’t have wanted to have been in her position in any way.

I even think if a person does enough “deprogramming” or maybe just protection they can even safely go to family events where there is religion involved because it is family based and . Because another thing that has been seriously under debate in my own eyes is how some individuals took this as a sign to detach from their families because of fear of some sort of fucking whatever. If anything at this point a person could just learn how silly it is and enjoy their time with their family. It does not make them a non satanist.

I listened to Maxine HEAVILY. Perhaps too much. To the point of even relating way too hard. Maybe it IS time I shift who and what I listen to. I don’t think the things she’s said have been complete or even reasonable to adhere to as a grown and functioning person.

Who really needs to be told whether or not they should or shouldn’t seek help through a religious organization in the disaster of a world we live in, something about having things that are common sense and survival being repeated to me as an adult just doesn’t feel right. I put a lot of common sense things on here to try and help people with their sanity only to crumble too.

But to be quite frank it just feels like a big mental stain. I don’t even want to read it anymore.

All things end and re-begin.

It’s just going to take me more time than other people and more self-patience.

Calling people jews is not something I agree with but what comes around goes around. I felt like it was deserved in the moment and now I feel like an evil goy. Trying to make it not public was actually done out of what I thought was respect because who wants to just rip that all over the place without really knowing or giving anyone a chance to properly assess. And I could not assess myself either.

Clergy anyone has nothing to do with it. But perhaps a part of me trusted the judgement enough there to know what to make of it.

The whole infiltrator thing is a piss poor excuse for answers that to me are more obvious but solutions are not as obvious. People have wanted solutions. There are none.
 
Sundara said:
Aquarius said:
Sundara said:
This is all a mixture of nonsense you're writing.

I did not write just that anywhere so whatever you quoted there isn’t complete.

He was right not to quote the whole thing. It reads like a stream of consciousness thing so that it plants seeds and influences certain people who fall into the trap of relating to it to think in the pathway that was written. There were multiple parts where it seemed like that to me, especially the dissing on Maxine. Undermining our need for religion as well, when most of us have gone our whole lives searching for these answers away from the bullshit lies of xianity and everything else they poison us with as children. Oh but it's "not important" or whatever. Also subtly implying that we're cult-like by pointing to members that find no commonality with their families and choose to avoid them. That's their life and their choice, and the High Priest and others have actively encouraged people to enjoy the time they have with their families.

I didn't follow the rumors about you before because I didn't see any evidence, but after the screenshots and after seeing all of this from you, it's clear to me now that less guarded minds need to be protected from your poison. I'm glad you were exposed.
 
Sundara said:
And without even making excuses. Do you get up at 6am, complete a whole routine for yourself and 2 other people, leave by 7-8, work 8+ hours, rinse and repeat

aronanto-homelander.gif


Sundara please, I am not one of the half baked teen Satanists that last about a year in this path and have 0 life experience. 8 hour shifts are not impressive and if that's all the hours you work then you have it relatively easy compared to most people who work jobs. You definitely have an easier job than mine, and I'm happy for you to be honest.

Sundara said:
- probably not, and then do your best to make a contribution? Do fucking rituals in your car on a lunch break? Try to protect people around you from shit, and then other people too, and does anyone actually do their best? Probably not. I know Maxine at least did do these things I’d think but who is to say that is all in anyones best interest, people clearly do not function their best when they’re burnt out. But for some reason this has all drained me more than anything. Some reason. Maybe it’s not proper mediation ladidadi the list goes on. Maybe some people should just admit taking some of this all too seriously is not for everyone without them being called jews or non satanists. Or even irrelevant. I’ve been basically manic for years because of the shit that has been on my plate, not in an out of control sense but in the sense that the life I’ve chosen does not allow for much of this “self-care” and it’s basically foreign. And maybe there were some programmings that I had maintained where my mind would only respond to information that is persecutory in nature, and that is probably what happens to most who fall off because of the filthy origins of the past. But when those things which ARE more important get at any sort of risk, I draw the line. I can only reprogram so much. Luckily what I do is meditative enough. If I have to be hoisted from this and remove myself from the equation I will. When people are in certain circumstances the mental effects are not avoidable. Yes I’ll continue my path with the gods because it never ends. It’s up to no one else.

I wouldn’t want to leave until my information is gone though. It’d be unjust in my eyes. But envy is contrary to what I feel like another said in regard to Maxine and while I don’t want to relate to her too much or say that we are equals in any way, since everything is supposedly very hierarchy based here I’d say perhaps women really should not lead but who else you know. I certainly wouldn’t have done all of that. I wouldn’t have wanted to have been in her position in any way.

I even think if a person does enough “deprogramming” or maybe just protection they can even safely go to family events where there is religion involved because it is family based and . Because another thing that has been seriously under debate in my own eyes is how some individuals took this as a sign to detach from their families because of fear of some sort of fucking whatever. If anything at this point a person could just learn how silly it is and enjoy their time with their family. It does not make them a non satanist.

I listened to Maxine HEAVILY. Perhaps too much. To the point of even relating way too hard. Maybe it IS time I shift who and what I listen to. I don’t think the things she’s said have been complete or even reasonable to adhere to as a grown and functioning person.

Who really needs to be told whether or not they should or shouldn’t seek help through a religious organization in the disaster of a world we live in, something about having things that are common sense and survival being repeated to me as an adult just doesn’t feel right. I put a lot of common sense things on here to try and help people with their sanity only to crumble too.

But to be quite frank it just feels like a big mental stain. I don’t even want to read it anymore.

All things end and re-begin.

It’s just going to take me more time than other people and more self-patience.

Calling people jews is not something I agree with but what comes around goes around. I felt like it was deserved in the moment and now I feel like an evil goy. Trying to make it not public was actually done out of what I thought was respect because who wants to just rip that all over the place without really knowing or giving anyone a chance to properly assess. And I could not assess myself either.

Clergy anyone has nothing to do with it. But perhaps a part of me trusted the judgement enough there to know what to make of it.

The whole infiltrator thing is a piss poor excuse for answers that to me are more obvious but solutions are not as obvious. People have wanted solutions. There are none.

As for the rest of this post, I still do not understand what exactly is your issue with Maxine or HC. All that you have said is just vague nonsense and childish slander.

Explain your issue or criticisms and provide credible evidence for your accusations, or just shut the fuck up. "I know the truth about HC" ooohhhhhh the suspense!

Just say what you have to say and stop with this anime garbage. Gods but you are such a child. Just saying pointless empty accusations, baseless slander and nonsense. You are just trying to act special and badass by taking jabs at HC and Maxine without actually giving any real criticism or accusations that have any evidence or weight behind them. This is all just a call for attention.

And don't start crying that you are being silenced or whatever. I am telling you in clear English say what you have say, tell me exactly what is your issue with Maxine and HC and what is the problem.

But the reality is you don't actually have anything to say and just keep saying vague nonsense and then complain others "worship" HC and Maxine. When it is you who is doing this and treating them like celebrities that you can gossip about and slander to get reactions and attention from others.

I don't give a fuck about Maxine, where she is or what she's up to. Whatever she's doing, it's her business and I couldn't give any less of a shit about trying to theorize or gossip over this. What is important is what she did.

And it is because of what she did that you have all the spiritual understanding and tools that you have. It is because of what she did that you have come this far. And it is because of HC that you now have a platform to sit here whining and trying to downplay what they have done for us and for you.

Maxine deserves respect because it is thanks to her that many souls have been elevated and been brought to Satan's light, who would have been lost without her and what she's done. And HC deserves respect for keeping the gears running and continuing to bring souls unto Satan's guidance and expand and evolve the JoS.

And JoS as a whole too deserves respect because it is the major beacon that brings the most souls to Satan's guiding light.


You do not have any respect for Maxine, for HC or for JoS. Worship and blind adoration was never required, but when you are disrespectful, you open the doors to be disrespected yourself and it's fully deserved. You want to be banned because you think it will make you some kind of martyr in this inconsequential and infantile movement against HC & JoS that you are trying to be a part of.

You are not a martyr. You are a child, having a little piss on the floor. And I will take the extra time to revise PDFs I've cooked up for the library to remove any and all mentions of your name and your writings. Your name shouldn't be fucking anywhere near Satan's library.

You have had a good presence in JoS, but now you are just shitting all over the place, and expect us to tolerate this and beg you not to leave. We do not need you.
 
Dahaarkan said:
Sundara said:
And without even making excuses. Do you get up at 6am, complete a whole routine for yourself and 2 other people, leave by 7-8, work 8+ hours, rinse and repeat

aronanto-homelander.gif


Sundara please, I am not one of the half baked teen Satanists that last about a year in this path and have 0 life experience. 8 hour shifts are not impressive and if that's all the hours you work then you have it relatively easy compared to most people who work jobs. You definitely have an easier job than mine, and I'm happy for you to be honest.

Sundara said:
- probably not, and then do your best to make a contribution? Do fucking rituals in your car on a lunch break? Try to protect people around you from shit, and then other people too, and does anyone actually do their best? Probably not. I know Maxine at least did do these things I’d think but who is to say that is all in anyones best interest, people clearly do not function their best when they’re burnt out. But for some reason this has all drained me more than anything. Some reason. Maybe it’s not proper mediation ladidadi the list goes on. Maybe some people should just admit taking some of this all too seriously is not for everyone without them being called jews or non satanists. Or even irrelevant. I’ve been basically manic for years because of the shit that has been on my plate, not in an out of control sense but in the sense that the life I’ve chosen does not allow for much of this “self-care” and it’s basically foreign. And maybe there were some programmings that I had maintained where my mind would only respond to information that is persecutory in nature, and that is probably what happens to most who fall off because of the filthy origins of the past. But when those things which ARE more important get at any sort of risk, I draw the line. I can only reprogram so much. Luckily what I do is meditative enough. If I have to be hoisted from this and remove myself from the equation I will. When people are in certain circumstances the mental effects are not avoidable. Yes I’ll continue my path with the gods because it never ends. It’s up to no one else.

I wouldn’t want to leave until my information is gone though. It’d be unjust in my eyes. But envy is contrary to what I feel like another said in regard to Maxine and while I don’t want to relate to her too much or say that we are equals in any way, since everything is supposedly very hierarchy based here I’d say perhaps women really should not lead but who else you know. I certainly wouldn’t have done all of that. I wouldn’t have wanted to have been in her position in any way.

I even think if a person does enough “deprogramming” or maybe just protection they can even safely go to family events where there is religion involved because it is family based and . Because another thing that has been seriously under debate in my own eyes is how some individuals took this as a sign to detach from their families because of fear of some sort of fucking whatever. If anything at this point a person could just learn how silly it is and enjoy their time with their family. It does not make them a non satanist.

I listened to Maxine HEAVILY. Perhaps too much. To the point of even relating way too hard. Maybe it IS time I shift who and what I listen to. I don’t think the things she’s said have been complete or even reasonable to adhere to as a grown and functioning person.

Who really needs to be told whether or not they should or shouldn’t seek help through a religious organization in the disaster of a world we live in, something about having things that are common sense and survival being repeated to me as an adult just doesn’t feel right. I put a lot of common sense things on here to try and help people with their sanity only to crumble too.

But to be quite frank it just feels like a big mental stain. I don’t even want to read it anymore.

All things end and re-begin.

It’s just going to take me more time than other people and more self-patience.

Calling people jews is not something I agree with but what comes around goes around. I felt like it was deserved in the moment and now I feel like an evil goy. Trying to make it not public was actually done out of what I thought was respect because who wants to just rip that all over the place without really knowing or giving anyone a chance to properly assess. And I could not assess myself either.

Clergy anyone has nothing to do with it. But perhaps a part of me trusted the judgement enough there to know what to make of it.

The whole infiltrator thing is a piss poor excuse for answers that to me are more obvious but solutions are not as obvious. People have wanted solutions. There are none.

As for the rest of this post, I still do not understand what exactly is your issue with Maxine or HC. All that you have said is just vague nonsense and childish slander.

Explain your issue or criticisms and provide credible evidence for your accusations, or just shut the fuck up. "I know the truth about HC" ooohhhhhh the suspense!

Just say what you have to say and stop with this anime garbage. Gods but you are such a child. Just saying pointless empty accusations, baseless slander and nonsense. You are just trying to act special and badass by taking jabs at HC and Maxine without actually giving any real criticism or accusations that have any evidence or weight behind them. This is all just a call for attention.

And don't start crying that you are being silenced or whatever. I am telling you in clear English say what you have say, tell me exactly what is your issue with Maxine and HC and what is the problem.

But the reality is you don't actually have anything to say and just keep saying vague nonsense and then complain others "worship" HC and Maxine. When it is you who is doing this and treating them like celebrities that you can gossip about and slander to get reactions and attention from others.

I don't give a fuck about Maxine, where she is or what she's up to. Whatever she's doing, it's her business and I couldn't give any less of a shit about trying to theorize or gossip over this. What is important is what she did.

And it is because of what she did that you have all the spiritual understanding and tools that you have. It is because of what she did that you have come this far. And it is because of HC that you now have a platform to sit here whining and trying to downplay what they have done for us and for you.

Maxine deserves respect because it is thanks to her that many souls have been elevated and been brought to Satan's light, who would have been lost without her and what she's done. And HC deserves respect for keeping the gears running and continuing to bring souls unto Satan's guidance and expand and evolve the JoS.

And JoS as a whole too deserves respect because it is the major beacon that brings the most souls to Satan's guiding light.


You do not have any respect for Maxine, for HC or for JoS. Worship and blind adoration was never required, but when you are disrespectful, you open the doors to be disrespected yourself and it's fully deserved. You want to be banned because you think it will make you some kind of martyr in this inconsequential and infantile movement against HC & JoS that you are trying to be a part of.

You are not a martyr. You are a child, having a little piss on the floor. And I will take the extra time to revise PDFs I've cooked up for the library to remove any and all mentions of your name and your writings. Your name shouldn't be fucking anywhere near Satan's library.

You have had a good presence in JoS, but now you are just shitting all over the place, and expect us to tolerate this and beg you not to leave. We do not need you.



There is no point, I never said there was. Certain things cause slip ups. People don’t get it, and they don’t get over it. There’s nothing I can do, you know? That’s all good stuff. It would’ve been nice if someone had explained that that’s what it takes to remove everything and it’s not as simple as just hitting a delete button. Few simple words.
 
Sundara said:
Dahaarkan said:
Sundara said:
And without even making excuses. Do you get up at 6am, complete a whole routine for yourself and 2 other people, leave by 7-8, work 8+ hours, rinse and repeat

aronanto-homelander.gif


Sundara please, I am not one of the half baked teen Satanists that last about a year in this path and have 0 life experience. 8 hour shifts are not impressive and if that's all the hours you work then you have it relatively easy compared to most people who work jobs. You definitely have an easier job than mine, and I'm happy for you to be honest.

Sundara said:
- probably not, and then do your best to make a contribution? Do fucking rituals in your car on a lunch break? Try to protect people around you from shit, and then other people too, and does anyone actually do their best? Probably not. I know Maxine at least did do these things I’d think but who is to say that is all in anyones best interest, people clearly do not function their best when they’re burnt out. But for some reason this has all drained me more than anything. Some reason. Maybe it’s not proper mediation ladidadi the list goes on. Maybe some people should just admit taking some of this all too seriously is not for everyone without them being called jews or non satanists. Or even irrelevant. I’ve been basically manic for years because of the shit that has been on my plate, not in an out of control sense but in the sense that the life I’ve chosen does not allow for much of this “self-care” and it’s basically foreign. And maybe there were some programmings that I had maintained where my mind would only respond to information that is persecutory in nature, and that is probably what happens to most who fall off because of the filthy origins of the past. But when those things which ARE more important get at any sort of risk, I draw the line. I can only reprogram so much. Luckily what I do is meditative enough. If I have to be hoisted from this and remove myself from the equation I will. When people are in certain circumstances the mental effects are not avoidable. Yes I’ll continue my path with the gods because it never ends. It’s up to no one else.

I wouldn’t want to leave until my information is gone though. It’d be unjust in my eyes. But envy is contrary to what I feel like another said in regard to Maxine and while I don’t want to relate to her too much or say that we are equals in any way, since everything is supposedly very hierarchy based here I’d say perhaps women really should not lead but who else you know. I certainly wouldn’t have done all of that. I wouldn’t have wanted to have been in her position in any way.

I even think if a person does enough “deprogramming” or maybe just protection they can even safely go to family events where there is religion involved because it is family based and . Because another thing that has been seriously under debate in my own eyes is how some individuals took this as a sign to detach from their families because of fear of some sort of fucking whatever. If anything at this point a person could just learn how silly it is and enjoy their time with their family. It does not make them a non satanist.

I listened to Maxine HEAVILY. Perhaps too much. To the point of even relating way too hard. Maybe it IS time I shift who and what I listen to. I don’t think the things she’s said have been complete or even reasonable to adhere to as a grown and functioning person.

Who really needs to be told whether or not they should or shouldn’t seek help through a religious organization in the disaster of a world we live in, something about having things that are common sense and survival being repeated to me as an adult just doesn’t feel right. I put a lot of common sense things on here to try and help people with their sanity only to crumble too.

But to be quite frank it just feels like a big mental stain. I don’t even want to read it anymore.

All things end and re-begin.

It’s just going to take me more time than other people and more self-patience.

Calling people jews is not something I agree with but what comes around goes around. I felt like it was deserved in the moment and now I feel like an evil goy. Trying to make it not public was actually done out of what I thought was respect because who wants to just rip that all over the place without really knowing or giving anyone a chance to properly assess. And I could not assess myself either.

Clergy anyone has nothing to do with it. But perhaps a part of me trusted the judgement enough there to know what to make of it.

The whole infiltrator thing is a piss poor excuse for answers that to me are more obvious but solutions are not as obvious. People have wanted solutions. There are none.

As for the rest of this post, I still do not understand what exactly is your issue with Maxine or HC. All that you have said is just vague nonsense and childish slander.

Explain your issue or criticisms and provide credible evidence for your accusations, or just shut the fuck up. "I know the truth about HC" ooohhhhhh the suspense!

Just say what you have to say and stop with this anime garbage. Gods but you are such a child. Just saying pointless empty accusations, baseless slander and nonsense. You are just trying to act special and badass by taking jabs at HC and Maxine without actually giving any real criticism or accusations that have any evidence or weight behind them. This is all just a call for attention.

And don't start crying that you are being silenced or whatever. I am telling you in clear English say what you have say, tell me exactly what is your issue with Maxine and HC and what is the problem.

But the reality is you don't actually have anything to say and just keep saying vague nonsense and then complain others "worship" HC and Maxine. When it is you who is doing this and treating them like celebrities that you can gossip about and slander to get reactions and attention from others.

I don't give a fuck about Maxine, where she is or what she's up to. Whatever she's doing, it's her business and I couldn't give any less of a shit about trying to theorize or gossip over this. What is important is what she did.

And it is because of what she did that you have all the spiritual understanding and tools that you have. It is because of what she did that you have come this far. And it is because of HC that you now have a platform to sit here whining and trying to downplay what they have done for us and for you.

Maxine deserves respect because it is thanks to her that many souls have been elevated and been brought to Satan's light, who would have been lost without her and what she's done. And HC deserves respect for keeping the gears running and continuing to bring souls unto Satan's guidance and expand and evolve the JoS.

And JoS as a whole too deserves respect because it is the major beacon that brings the most souls to Satan's guiding light.


You do not have any respect for Maxine, for HC or for JoS. Worship and blind adoration was never required, but when you are disrespectful, you open the doors to be disrespected yourself and it's fully deserved. You want to be banned because you think it will make you some kind of martyr in this inconsequential and infantile movement against HC & JoS that you are trying to be a part of.

You are not a martyr. You are a child, having a little piss on the floor. And I will take the extra time to revise PDFs I've cooked up for the library to remove any and all mentions of your name and your writings. Your name shouldn't be fucking anywhere near Satan's library.

You have had a good presence in JoS, but now you are just shitting all over the place, and expect us to tolerate this and beg you not to leave. We do not need you.



There is no point, I never said there was. Certain things cause slip ups. People don’t get it, and they don’t get over it. There’s nothing I can do, you know? That’s all good stuff. It would’ve been nice if someone had explained that that’s what it takes to remove everything and it’s not as simple as just hitting a delete button. Few simple words.


There’s a good lesson on ignorance here, It’s pretty irrelevant what anyone feels or thinks of me or cobra or Maxine or any other member on a personal level. I respect the work or I wouldn’t read it. I would not dig into it. I wouldn’t find interest in it. I wouldn’t do it or find it useful.

If it does get deleted then certain things that are actually useful can obviously be kept. I’ve said a lot of stream of consciousness things on here. 99% with good intent, yes.
 
Sundara, you schloma, these mails aren't just a slip up, this is literally a jewish rant, either you're totally mentally fucked and extremely subversive, or you're a jewess.

You can't save face anymore, that's not just a mistake, that is literally the proof of how fucked you are in the head.
 
Aquarius said:
Sundara, you schloma, these mails aren't just a slip up, this is literally a jewish rant, either you're totally mentally fucked and extremely subversive, or you're a jewess.

You can't save face anymore, that's not just a mistake, that is literally the proof of how fucked you are in the head.
This person's conduct reminds me a bit of OWP. They write a bit better (yet less coherent), but that's about it.
 
Henu the Great said:
Aquarius said:
Sundara, you schloma, these mails aren't just a slip up, this is literally a jewish rant, either you're totally mentally fucked and extremely subversive, or you're a jewess.

You can't save face anymore, that's not just a mistake, that is literally the proof of how fucked you are in the head.
This person's conduct reminds me a bit of OWP. They write a bit better (yet less coherent), but that's about it.
Exactly.
Let's thank the rtr for the purging of jews from these forums.
 
Sundara said:
Certain things cause slip ups. People don’t get it, and they don’t get over it. There’s nothing I can do, you know?

I am aware also that enemy influence can lead to moments of confusion, doubts and foolish behaviors, but the argument that this or something else caused that exposed outburst is made irrelevant by the fact you double down and continue that behavior even now in this thread, making more vague statements and unnecessary disrespect.

So it wasn't some isolated incident caused by external influences, this is you. This is what you are.


I've always heard it being said that manipulation is when they blame you for your reaction to their disrespect, and this fully aligns to what you are attempting to do. You have had a good presence before, but a good act does not wash out the bad, and this is not a situation where someone has attacked you or ruined your reputation, you took a shit all over the good things you've done and contributed with, and made a complete clown of yourself for no reason.

And when confronted you instead double down and continue taking jabs at clergy for no reason and no gain, and when asked specifically what are your criticisms or proof to back your accusations, you have nothing to say. So it really was just a clown show and nothing more.

And now all the good you've done in the past will forever be stained by the stench of this clown act of an autistic rebellion against JoS. With no logical basis for your hatred and instead just vague accusations and low effort slander, as you have demonstrated a complete inability to expand upon any of these statements with any evidence or logical reasoning.


There is something you can do and I've told you repeatedly what it is. Turn off the computer and stop wasting your time acting like a clown, and go meditate. This is an embarrassing mess of your own making and you cannot blame anybody for their reactions to your behavior.
 
Dahaarkan said:
Sundara said:
Certain things cause slip ups. People don’t get it, and they don’t get over it. There’s nothing I can do, you know?

I am aware also that enemy influence can lead to moments of confusion, doubts and foolish behaviors, but the argument that this or something else caused that exposed outburst is made irrelevant by the fact you double down and continue that behavior even now in this thread, making more vague statements and unnecessary disrespect.

So it wasn't some isolated incident caused by external influences, this is you. This is what you are.


I've always heard it being said that manipulation is when they blame you for your reaction to their disrespect, and this fully aligns to what you are attempting to do. You have had a good presence before, but a good act does not wash out the bad, and this is not a situation where someone has attacked you or ruined your reputation, you took a shit all over the good things you've done and contributed with, and made a complete clown of yourself for no reason.

And when confronted you instead double down and continue taking jabs at clergy for no reason and no gain, and when asked specifically what are your criticisms or proof to back your accusations, you have nothing to say. So it really was just a clown show and nothing more.

And now all the good you've done in the past will forever be stained by the stench of this clown act of an autistic rebellion against JoS. With no logical basis for your hatred and instead just vague accusations and low effort slander, as you have demonstrated a complete inability to expand upon any of these statements with any evidence or logical reasoning.


There is something you can do and I've told you repeatedly what it is. Turn off the computer and stop wasting your time acting like a clown, and go meditate. This is an embarrassing mess of your own making and you cannot blame anybody for their reactions to your behavior.


Hmm, is it not… maybe more on that in the future.
 
Sundara said:
Dahaarkan said:
Sundara said:
Certain things cause slip ups. People don’t get it, and they don’t get over it. There’s nothing I can do, you know?

I am aware also that enemy influence can lead to moments of confusion, doubts and foolish behaviors, but the argument that this or something else caused that exposed outburst is made irrelevant by the fact you double down and continue that behavior even now in this thread, making more vague statements and unnecessary disrespect.

So it wasn't some isolated incident caused by external influences, this is you. This is what you are.


I've always heard it being said that manipulation is when they blame you for your reaction to their disrespect, and this fully aligns to what you are attempting to do. You have had a good presence before, but a good act does not wash out the bad, and this is not a situation where someone has attacked you or ruined your reputation, you took a shit all over the good things you've done and contributed with, and made a complete clown of yourself for no reason.

And when confronted you instead double down and continue taking jabs at clergy for no reason and no gain, and when asked specifically what are your criticisms or proof to back your accusations, you have nothing to say. So it really was just a clown show and nothing more.

And now all the good you've done in the past will forever be stained by the stench of this clown act of an autistic rebellion against JoS. With no logical basis for your hatred and instead just vague accusations and low effort slander, as you have demonstrated a complete inability to expand upon any of these statements with any evidence or logical reasoning.


There is something you can do and I've told you repeatedly what it is. Turn off the computer and stop wasting your time acting like a clown, and go meditate. This is an embarrassing mess of your own making and you cannot blame anybody for their reactions to your behavior.


Hmm, is it not… maybe more on that in the future.



For some sort of for everyone or my own sake, I experienced a massive something on these dates when this occurred. Nothing could’ve prepared me for that. This is not how I would speak or portray anything. That was blatantly obvious to everyone. This was not a fun thing to pull through but I kept just moving forward. I felt something very massive coming on, and my instincts told me to take my kids to a family members house. From there, someone hit my car, I had a head injury, and I took some prescribed medications. Then this weird dude came to my house to “take care of me” who I hardly knew, he started saying some really weird things about rape and I was already essentially very out of it. He also left this weird knife on my porch and said it had sentimental value and I was pretty sure he was a psychopath. And the rest is just an awful blur. I had no one else around and I accepted the help. There was less information available prior to this that I needed beforehand to prevent that. There was nothing I could really do. This is not “behavior” that I do take on as my own..

I thought accepting the fall and just rolling with it would help. Process it and just saying oh yeah that’s me, whatever, like it is fine. It is clearly not fine. But when I don’t see resolution to anything I don’t bother explaining. Because I have not known what it is that I’ve needed to own up to that is actually true to me.

Saying these circumstances are because of the RTRs clearing a person off is fucking vile. I agree.

I did not put myself in this position. I’ve not wanted to participate since then because of these reactions.
 
Sundara said:
Sundara said:
Dahaarkan said:
I am aware also that enemy influence can lead to moments of confusion, doubts and foolish behaviors, but the argument that this or something else caused that exposed outburst is made irrelevant by the fact you double down and continue that behavior even now in this thread, making more vague statements and unnecessary disrespect.

So it wasn't some isolated incident caused by external influences, this is you. This is what you are.


I've always heard it being said that manipulation is when they blame you for your reaction to their disrespect, and this fully aligns to what you are attempting to do. You have had a good presence before, but a good act does not wash out the bad, and this is not a situation where someone has attacked you or ruined your reputation, you took a shit all over the good things you've done and contributed with, and made a complete clown of yourself for no reason.

And when confronted you instead double down and continue taking jabs at clergy for no reason and no gain, and when asked specifically what are your criticisms or proof to back your accusations, you have nothing to say. So it really was just a clown show and nothing more.

And now all the good you've done in the past will forever be stained by the stench of this clown act of an autistic rebellion against JoS. With no logical basis for your hatred and instead just vague accusations and low effort slander, as you have demonstrated a complete inability to expand upon any of these statements with any evidence or logical reasoning.


There is something you can do and I've told you repeatedly what it is. Turn off the computer and stop wasting your time acting like a clown, and go meditate. This is an embarrassing mess of your own making and you cannot blame anybody for their reactions to your behavior.


Hmm, is it not… maybe more on that in the future.



For some sort of for everyone or my own sake, I experienced a massive something on these dates when this occurred. Nothing could’ve prepared me for that. This is not how I would speak or portray anything. That was blatantly obvious to everyone. This was not a fun thing to pull through but I kept just moving forward. I felt something very massive coming on, and my instincts told me to take my kids to a family members house. From there, someone hit my car, I had a head injury, and I took some prescribed medications. Then this weird dude came to my house to “take care of me” who I hardly knew, he started saying some really weird things about rape and I was already essentially very out of it. He also left this weird knife on my porch and said it had sentimental value and I was pretty sure he was a psychopath. And the rest is just an awful blur. I had no one else around and I accepted the help. There was less information available prior to this that I needed beforehand to prevent that. There was nothing I could really do. This is not “behavior” that I do take on as my own..

I thought accepting the fall and just rolling with it would help. Process it and just saying oh yeah that’s me, whatever, like it is fine. It is clearly not fine. But when I don’t see resolution to anything I don’t bother explaining. Because I have not known what it is that I’ve needed to own up to that is actually true to me.

Saying these circumstances are because of the RTRs clearing a person off is fucking vile. I agree.

I did not put myself in this position. I’ve not wanted to participate since then because of these reactions.

oy vey woe is me. Give it a rest. You're way beyond the point of soliciting pity. "I was out of my mind at the time" doesn't explain you doubling down and dumping on Maxine in the present. If it was a one time thing then you wouldn't still be messing around now.

If that kind of nightmarish crap is actually happening to you after being in the path for so long and doing aura of protection and cleaning your soul then something is very (((wrong))). Nobody is going to buy this story now that you're selling, and at this point you're just trying to waste more of people's time.
 
jrvan said:
Sundara said:
Sundara said:
Hmm, is it not… maybe more on that in the future.



For some sort of for everyone or my own sake, I experienced a massive something on these dates when this occurred. Nothing could’ve prepared me for that. This is not how I would speak or portray anything. That was blatantly obvious to everyone. This was not a fun thing to pull through but I kept just moving forward. I felt something very massive coming on, and my instincts told me to take my kids to a family members house. From there, someone hit my car, I had a head injury, and I took some prescribed medications. Then this weird dude came to my house to “take care of me” who I hardly knew, he started saying some really weird things about rape and I was already essentially very out of it. He also left this weird knife on my porch and said it had sentimental value and I was pretty sure he was a psychopath. And the rest is just an awful blur. I had no one else around and I accepted the help. There was less information available prior to this that I needed beforehand to prevent that. There was nothing I could really do. This is not “behavior” that I do take on as my own..

I thought accepting the fall and just rolling with it would help. Process it and just saying oh yeah that’s me, whatever, like it is fine. It is clearly not fine. But when I don’t see resolution to anything I don’t bother explaining. Because I have not known what it is that I’ve needed to own up to that is actually true to me.

Saying these circumstances are because of the RTRs clearing a person off is fucking vile. I agree.

I did not put myself in this position. I’ve not wanted to participate since then because of these reactions.

oy vey woe is me. Give it a rest. You're way beyond the point of soliciting pity. "I was out of my mind at the time" doesn't explain you doubling down and dumping on Maxine in the present. If it was a one time thing then you wouldn't still be messing around now.

If that kind of nightmarish crap is actually happening to you after being in the path for so long and doing aura of protection and cleaning your soul then something is very (((wrong))). Nobody is going to buy this story now that you're selling, and at this point you're just trying to waste more of people's time.


Oh noooo.
Well it’s a good thing you’re not the ultimate authority on this. Actually still think Maxine and cobra are on that note. Even if I wanted to contest it a little and doink around.. or challenge certain facts.

And it’s not my forum, that’s for sure. They can do whatever they want :)

Just don’t take names too seriously. The gods do not really care about the he said she said on petty things I do not think. Neither do I. I think what matters is the the totality of a person.
 
Dahaarkan said:
Sundara said:
Certain things cause slip ups. People don’t get it, and they don’t get over it. There’s nothing I can do, you know?

I am aware also that enemy influence can lead to moments of confusion, doubts and foolish behaviors, but the argument that this or something else caused that exposed outburst is made irrelevant by the fact you double down and continue that behavior even now in this thread, making more vague statements and unnecessary disrespect.

So it wasn't some isolated incident caused by external influences, this is you. This is what you are.


I've always heard it being said that manipulation is when they blame you for your reaction to their disrespect, and this fully aligns to what you are attempting to do. You have had a good presence before, but a good act does not wash out the bad, and this is not a situation where someone has attacked you or ruined your reputation, you took a shit all over the good things you've done and contributed with, and made a complete clown of yourself for no reason.

And when confronted you instead double down and continue taking jabs at clergy for no reason and no gain, and when asked specifically what are your criticisms or proof to back your accusations, you have nothing to say. So it really was just a clown show and nothing more.

And now all the good you've done in the past will forever be stained by the stench of this clown act of an autistic rebellion against JoS. With no logical basis for your hatred and instead just vague accusations and low effort slander, as you have demonstrated a complete inability to expand upon any of these statements with any evidence or logical reasoning.


There is something you can do and I've told you repeatedly what it is. Turn off the computer and stop wasting your time acting like a clown, and go meditate. This is an embarrassing mess of your own making and you cannot blame anybody for their reactions to your behavior.



Thank you for being willing to remove it all Dahaarkan, regardless of any behavior bias.
 
Sundara said:
jrvan said:
Sundara said:
For some sort of for everyone or my own sake, I experienced a massive something on these dates when this occurred. Nothing could’ve prepared me for that. This is not how I would speak or portray anything. That was blatantly obvious to everyone. This was not a fun thing to pull through but I kept just moving forward. I felt something very massive coming on, and my instincts told me to take my kids to a family members house. From there, someone hit my car, I had a head injury, and I took some prescribed medications. Then this weird dude came to my house to “take care of me” who I hardly knew, he started saying some really weird things about rape and I was already essentially very out of it. He also left this weird knife on my porch and said it had sentimental value and I was pretty sure he was a psychopath. And the rest is just an awful blur. I had no one else around and I accepted the help. There was less information available prior to this that I needed beforehand to prevent that. There was nothing I could really do. This is not “behavior” that I do take on as my own..

I thought accepting the fall and just rolling with it would help. Process it and just saying oh yeah that’s me, whatever, like it is fine. It is clearly not fine. But when I don’t see resolution to anything I don’t bother explaining. Because I have not known what it is that I’ve needed to own up to that is actually true to me.

Saying these circumstances are because of the RTRs clearing a person off is fucking vile. I agree.

I did not put myself in this position. I’ve not wanted to participate since then because of these reactions.

oy vey woe is me. Give it a rest. You're way beyond the point of soliciting pity. "I was out of my mind at the time" doesn't explain you doubling down and dumping on Maxine in the present. If it was a one time thing then you wouldn't still be messing around now.

If that kind of nightmarish crap is actually happening to you after being in the path for so long and doing aura of protection and cleaning your soul then something is very (((wrong))). Nobody is going to buy this story now that you're selling, and at this point you're just trying to waste more of people's time.


Oh noooo.
Well it’s a good thing you’re not the ultimate authority on this. Actually still think Maxine and cobra are on that note. Even if I wanted to contest it a little and doink around.. or challenge certain facts.

And it’s not my forum, that’s for sure. They can do whatever they want :)

Just don’t take names too seriously. The gods do not really care about the he said she said on petty things I do not think. Neither do I. I think what matters is the the totality of a person.

You're still just trying to let yourself off the hook. Become aware of the fact that everyone can see through you, and there is no way to hit the undo button and pretend that everything is fine. You can't regain the trust you threw away.

Game over. Bye.
 
solinvictvs94 said:
yall dont respond to this neanderkike anymore this thing is CLEARLY unhinged

Well a certain someone likes to change up narratives and such as things happen. That’s a pretty good ability. At least I’m honestly myself. Seems more innocent. It was intended as a joke in my mind at the time. I won’t be confronting Jack shit just because someone says so and in such a negative manner. I’m talking to a bunch of bricks right now. It was not meant for everyone but someone apparently doesn’t care about privacy or anyone else’s personal boundaries all the while claiming no one should have anything personal with anyone. I tried to see the flaws here. Took it too far? I don’t know. People like to feel like they’re being killed by nothing. They also don’t like to stand up for anyone. I’m a big fan of being on a block of ice though. It is my specialty.

For my next move I will attempt to turn a neo nazi shop into something new. Just for fun. Cuz life ain’t THAT serious. I call my new job the Theta house. There’s some cool capricorns there too.

I have been a lot more “insane” before all of this gorgons. And if you’re going to try and make someone have some kind of a self confrontation like some kind of a condemning parish… well that is how you get bitten.

And what is the deal on all of this @cobra or someone with better eyes, if you will, how serious is the crime here? Give the narrative from your perspective. Do I get the full blown infiltrator hammer, or should some of this all be left up? Clarify things please and thank you, once again. If it’s even needed.
 
Sundara said:
And what is the deal on all of this @cobra or someone with better eyes, if you will, how serious is the crime here? Give the narrative from your perspective. Do I get the full blown infiltrator hammer, or should some of this all be left up? Clarify things please and thank you, once again. If it’s even needed.
What matters are your intentions. And are you working towards our common goal. So far it looks like you work to the opposite side. Which is the reason there is a reaction against you and I ponder what are you doing here at this point. Your ramblings make very little sense and provide zero useful info for people.
 
The tragedy of the situation, regardless of any attacks, is that you have kids to take care of.

The most dreadful situation is not an absent mother, but one who is mentally unwell and one that spends time on this forum in this manner and speaking with strangers - only for nonsensical thoughts and ideas.

If you are willing to do something right, do focus only on raising your kids, and going to therapy.

Stop writing on the forum, stop the bleeding of the mind. Focus on health and your future.
 
Blitzkreig [JG said:
" post_id=401801 time=1669422613 user_id=21286]Aldrick was outed as a Jew (based on his behavior and pictures of him and his family) who also make up all sorts of lies or half-truths about himself and the Gods, both to myself and others. He also told me he had problems meditating consistently and so on, yet never knew how to fix this (add earth energy).

When-did-all-that-happen? :shock:
I haven't been very active in the forums, other than reading HP's sermons and announcements, but when did this chronologically happen?

Are the photos still online?
I have had so many conversations with him in the distant past. If what is being said here is the truth, I never realized.
 
NakedPluto said:
The tragedy of the situation, regardless of any attacks, is that you have kids to take care of.

The most dreadful situation is not an absent mother, but one who is mentally unwell and one that spends time on this forum in this manner and speaking with strangers - only for nonsensical thoughts and ideas.

If you are willing to do something right, do focus only on raising your kids, and going to therapy.

Stop writing on the forum, stop the bleeding of the mind. Focus on health and your future.



I tried to teach a lesson to myself and others but I’m not a teacher, I’m better at application, I’m a utilizer. It falls on deaf ears.

But, the sentiment here is that I appreciate the fact you seem to be the only one to care about that as everyone will perceive this in their own way. That shows you have some sort of humanity in you.

Thankfully I’ve separated only a portion of myself to this. And why wouldn’t it be delusional seeming for what I see as people who have pretty serious delusions, I served my purpose. People are not 1D, or should not be. Many facets. A person can literally do whatever they want in this world and hopefully they use it wisely.

I did try though. I can at least say that. And I have lived a lot. And I continue to. People are capable of more than they realize. And this time I’ll slow down and take my time.

Fortunately most satanists on here don’t have kids and I don’t believe that they should focus that much on this here either. This was not meant to be a long term deal for me.

https://youtu.be/U0-ttGGB7b4

Everything is a learning experience! And also, I do want to say bad things happen to everyone. All the time. But instead of anyone seeing the good in the fact I was able to call that all happening before it happened and protect my family, they slander and cry.

See strength in people. Not weaknesses.
 
Yagami Light said:

About a year ago, I believe. This is when his account was banned.

His case is one where his behavior keeps creating negative situations, whether or not he wants it to happen. I also talked to him for a while, and then I eventually realized that he was lying about some things.

It is not something you realize immediately, but with enough pieces of evidence, you start to realize the root of the problem, especially for someone who claims to be an SS for many years yet suffers, with near daily visits from various Gods, yet suffers from the most basic of problems.
 
Probably shouldn't bring this up since this topic has been buried in the multiple pages on the forums and everybody has stopped talking about it. But if anyone has been here for a while like I have you tend to remember and notice past topics and interactions of other members who have also been here for a while.
I just made a post requesting a password reset because I cant remember the new one I made when we had the recent security breach. But that got me thinking about things - mostly accounts and topics people have made in the past on the Forums.

Does anyone remember a long time ago, I cant remember if it was this forum or the old forum, that there was a time when Sundara's account started posting and saying weird stuff and then she said that her account was hacked somehow?

I cant remember what was said in those past topics, but Sundara's account suddenly made about 2 or 3 posts out of the blue about random nonsense, cant remember if it was something blasphemous towards Satan and the Gods or not, and then there was another account that appeared on those topics and was replying to Sundara's posts, claiming that they were actually Sundara, and that her real account was hacked.

The 'Hacker' then said (using Sundara's account) they tried to log into the forums and they 'somehow' logged into the Sundara account. Does anyone else remember this happening?
Was that some kind of unknown bug in the forums, or were those weird/blasphemous posts mistakenly made using the wrong account?
Don't want to be pointing fingers and calling names and I'm in no position to be doing so, but this is something I do remember happening in the past, and I felt like I should mention it.
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Satan

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