Belarus: The Terror greater than in North Korea...

[Lunar Dance 666]

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Edward Lonsa has posted many important posts. I am quite sure that he does not post things that are untrue, DiscipleOfSatan; attemps to discredit him are futile.

Also trying to spread division and lies is not something that is looked upon kindly. Messages that spread confusion or make people believe otherwise are also not taken in kindly, once people realize that they were lies.

I am not trying to discredit anyone, I am only opposing his position solely and specifically about Belarus and Lukashenko... I am sure that he is not spreading this misleading information intentionally, and as I said, I believe he has been mislead by the manipulative information spread by the media, including the social media and the internet. There are many Youtube channels, websites, etc, that present themselves as independent, and at first sight look independent, but in reality they are representing a lobby, funded by Soros' foundations, and so on. Everyone can be mislead, because there is so much misinformation about everything, and there are many things you can't verify for yourself.

It's understandable that you haven't heard of Belarus, or Lukashenko before, but what's frustrating is that you haven't even read the topic before blaming me for spreading "lies, confusion, and division"... I am not talking only about my posts, read the topic itself and ask yourself where is the evidence for 'the terror greater than in North Korea'?

The only things that were posted as evidence for Belarus being a communist dictatorship are that the police used force against protesters, and that some were arrested. Many of these protesters were throwing paving stones and molotov cocktails against the police (and by the way, the most violent of them are not even Belarusian, but Ukrainian and Russian mercenaries).... Most of the stories that were described as 'unbelievable horrors' such as the cop who said to the arrested protester who demanded to speak with their lawyer, that they watched too many american movies, and it doesn't work that way, or cops swearing and yelling - do you really think that the police in every other country would treat differently the participants of violent riots? In most other countries, this is how the police treats even peaceful protesters. How do you expect the Belarusian police to threat these protesters, considering the fact that paving stones and molotov cocktails were being thrown? As for the story about the guy who had an army grenade shoved into his pants by the police, this is just ridiculous and can't be true. Since when police officers carry army grenades?

And if we call Belarus a "totalitarian regime", "dictatorship" and so on, because the police used force against the protesters (I don't know how they are supposed to react, considering the fact that paving stones and molotov cocktails were being thrown at them during these "protests" and some tried to run over police officers with their cars) then what term should we use for the countries where people were fined insane amounts of money for criticizing the Covid lockdowns on social media, or for not wearing slave masks, or simply for being outside their homes? Or the people who were sentenced to prison for questioning the holohoax in Western countries? Btw, Belarus is one of the few countries where the 'Holocaust denial' is not criminalized. I wonder how many people were jailed for Covid-19 violations in the "non-dictatorship" countries....

I know that I am saying this for 3rd time in this topic, but it's so absurd to claim that Belarus is a totalitarian regime, while it was one of the very few countries in the world that didn't lockdown and didn't violate any human rights, while the rest of the world was locked under a house arrest, forced to wear slave masks, social isolation, social distance, fined for going to the park, and all of the Orwellian crap that in many countries continues to this day. Ad on top of all that, tens, if not hundreds of thousands of people were killed because they didn't had access to healthcare as surgeries, diagnosis and treatment were delayed from March to May. Lukashenko openly opposed this, and haven't done any of that. How many other politicians in the world opposed the covid-19 insanity, which was literally the emergence of Orwellian society? And if Belarus is a "totalitarian regime" or "dictatorship" then what term would you use for all the countries where this Orwellian society was fully materialized during the Covid-19 insanity?

To me, Italy, Spain, Portugal, Greece, all countries of Eastern Europe except Belarus, the majority of the Democratic states in the US, especially New York, and New Jersey, and so on, during the lockdowns and the covid-19 insanity deserve to be compared to North Korea. Not the only political leader in Europe who opposed this.

First off I am disgusted by the fact that you call em "slave masks". Theyre worn by health personnell majorly. Are they slaves to you?

Secondly, in those "free" countries, or those having had a semi lockdown, testing isnt even alwaya done properly. Think, lack of testing.
To also think that it is a hoax is stupidity itself when (electron)microscopes have zoomed in on the thing and proven its excistence.

Thirdly, coming back to the topic. We were not speaking about police but fully suited up people with bulletproof vests, plastic screens etc. I bet thwir training might have been more on the military or special forces kind.
Also, you say youve visited there, but you havent lived there. You can admire a culture and see positive things in them, but there are also downsides to it that you cannot see. that are glamorous to the outsiders. but have a real darkness behind it.
You say products are cheap. Where were they made? Whom has been forced to slavery to make them? Because products shouldnt be so cheap as chinese import actually is.
If products are so cheap then the ones that make em must be working their asses off to make ends meet. Im just saying.

And with the world going so crazy as it is, I dont doubt that circumstances like these mentioned by Edward excist

 

[Edward Lonsa]

Some news on this.

Protests are attracting more and more people all over Belarus. Putin is afraid to send troops to Belarus and Lukashenko is mass firing Belarusian workers from TV and Media putting there Russians, because Belarusians refuse to speak on TV what he wants. So he does with industries and other spheres where Belarusians refuse to work and go on strikes. He just place foreigners there. He also eternally repeat that if anybody goes on strike and leaves his job for one single day he will be fired and never accepted to job again (all I say here is told straightly by Lukashenko himself, taken exactly from his words for which he is proud).

Lukashenko is strangely making one mistake after another. For example he stated that teachers must follow specific "only governmental" agenda into how they put the material in schools which led almost all teachers into riots. While teachers were almost all voting for Lukashenko, had nothing to do with whatsoever political opposition and are 100% peaceful intellectuals, mostly of not very young age. So Lukashenko put against himself even his own former allies. Basically, as people here truly said, not too many people were against him from the very beginning, while now almost everyone in both countries is.

Videos with beatings and screams have been leaked into the internet. Here are some of them:

Screams and sounds of beatings heard from the isolator in Okrestino and put in audio by those waiting for relatives there:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWqlk6xdqgI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ml6-w1mL9BM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYtb9OVwmHI

Leaked video with beatings inside the Okrestino:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XYzFtD7IEs

People who have nothing whatsoever to do with any riot, opposition or politics at all are just taken out of their cars by force thrown on the ground and arested:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ah5Aq2naW5E

In the first minutes of the below many people rioting or not, are beaten savagely, kicked, some of them do not fight police in any way or form nor do they try even protect themsleves. Then there is intervew with a policeman who fired to not beat people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1DOu71k-X8

A lot of policemen do so: they show their documents and expose their names all over the internet to prove they are real police and not propagandists, and say they fire because they refuse to follow orders:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEcgTp-HLws
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nh3FxTm3ke0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5L1Pniwhans
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TH_nO6fTaaA

All of the above is fully admitted by Lukashenko and his military - beatings, everything. He even publicly asked to apologize the police "who made some mistakes". His military chief apologized. Nobody even tries to conceal anything.

So here is the evidence.

Again I never argue for Tihanovskaya nor for any playing force there, I do not know her nor what are their real plans, I even saw her photo with Western jewish oligarch Harry Levi who is known to inspire such kind of offsprings, so I am also afraid that it is a trap. I just pretty worry about Belarusian people.

 

[DiscipleOfSatan]

“Through clever and constant application of propaganda, people can be made to see paradise as hell, and also the other way round, to consider the most wretched sort of life as paradise.”
― Adolf Hitler

There are people that use the same kind of arguements in the west about places like China and North Korea btw.

I'm posting in this topic for one last time, because it's really offensive to blame me for spreading 'communist propaganda'... I'm used to be blamed and attacked by people who haven't even looked at the issue being discussed, but it's disappointing that even in this forum some people are acting in the same manner. You not only have never heard of Belarus before, but you haven't even read the topic before blaming me for propagandizing communism... If you had at least read the topic, you would have noticed that literally the only argument for Belarus being a communist dictatorship is that the police used force against the protesters (like this doesn't happen in nearly every other protest, in every other country). Nothing else.

If I say that, for example, Italy (and many other countries) is thousands of times more of a dictatorship, and totalitarian regime than Belarus, I can easily prove it:

Here is what life in Belarus was, in the end of March, when the Covid-19 hysteria was at its peak - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9qijgzmtq8 open cafes, bars, restaurants, schools, gyms, sport events, full stadiums, no panic, no mass hysteria, and life going on normally.

And here is what life in Italy during the lockdown was, in case you've forgot:

A man injected with sedative drug by cops for simply trying to protest against the lockdown. - https://www.invidio.us/watch?v=6ZfanH5ue7Y

Desperate people in Italy who have run out of money and food - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsNWbfatRwg (while the average age of Covid-19 deaths in italy was 82, they basically starved the children to 'prevent' the 80+ years old people from dying.)

Now, where is the Belarusian 'terror greater than in North Korea'? Can you show me anything, except for the rioters against whom police officers have used force? And if not, then how are my statements "propaganda", but your's aren't? And how the countries where the whole population was locked under a house arrest, forced to wear slave masks, social isolation, social distance, fined for going to the park, and all of the Orwellian nightmare, are not a 'dictatorship', 'totalitarian regime', 'communist dystopia', and so on, but the only country that opposed this are?

 

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[Apprentice]

I am aware of 50bmg, however its not meant to shoot people with, its an antimalarial round. What I meant by that is you can shoot a cop wearing a cevlar vest with a 5.56 round and it would still go through, seeing as the cops in Belarus don't wear ceramic plates you don't need armor piecring rounds.

Yes, the 50BMG isn't regularly used as anti-personnel ammo.
I've witnessed that even 7.62 Nato with a steel core will do such a damage that I don't think that wearing a Kevlar vest helps.
It also depends on armor, of course but my point is that armor-piercing is not a myth.

 

[Power of Justice [JG]]

I am aware of 50bmg, however its not meant to shoot people with, its an antimalarial round. What I meant by that is you can shoot a cop wearing a cevlar vest with a 5.56 round and it would still go through, seeing as the cops in Belarus don't wear ceramic plates you don't need armor piecring rounds.

Yes, the 50BMG isn't regularly used as anti-personnel ammo.
I've witnessed that even 7.62 Nato with a steel core will do such a damage that I don't think that wearing a Kevlar vest helps.
It also depends on armor, of course but my point is that armor-piercing is not a myth.

I said its a myth in the way that the media portrays it to be, oy vey they killing cops with armor piercing ammo, no even if the cop wasn't shot with ap ammo his vest wouldn't have done much to stop a 5.56 or any other rifle round for that matter. Also you'd me hard pressed to find genuine steel or tungsten cored bullets out there as well.

 

[DiscipleOfSatan]

Some news on this.

Protests are attracting more and more people all over Belarus. Putin is afraid to send troops to Belarus and Lukashenko is mass firing Belarusian workers from TV and Media putting there Russians, because Belarusians refuse to speak on TV what he wants. So he does with industries and other spheres where Belarusians refuse to work and go on strikes. He just place foreigners there. He also eternally repeat that if anybody goes on strike and leaves his job for one single day he will be fired and never accepted to job again (all I say here is told straightly by Lukashenko himself, taken exactly from his words for which he is proud).

Lukashenko is strangely making one mistake after another. For example he stated that teachers must follow specific "only governmental" agenda into how they put the material in schools which led almost all teachers into riots. While teachers were almost all voting for Lukashenko, had nothing to do with whatsoever political opposition and are 100% peaceful intellectuals, mostly of not very young age. So Lukashenko put against himself even his own former allies. Basically, as people here truly said, not too many people were against him from the very beginning, while now almost everyone in both countries is.

Videos with beatings and screams have been leaked into the internet. Here are some of them:

Screams and sounds of beatings heard from the isolator in Okrestino and put in audio by those waiting for relatives there:

https://www.invidio.us/watch?v=RWqlk6xdqgI
https://www.invidio.us/watch?v=Ml6-w1mL9BM
https://www.invidio.us/watch?v=JYtb9OVwmHI

Leaked video with beatings inside the Okrestino:

https://www.invidio.us/watch?v=0XYzFtD7IEs

People who have nothing whatsoever to do with any riot, opposition or politics at all are just taken out of their cars by force thrown on the ground and arested:

https://www.invidio.us/watch?v=Ah5Aq2naW5E

In the first minutes of the below many people rioting or not, are beaten savagely, kicked, some of them do not fight police in any way or form nor do they try even protect themsleves. Then there is intervew with a policeman who fired to not beat people.

https://www.invidio.us/watch?v=H1DOu71k-X8

A lot of policemen do so: they show their documents and expose their names all over the internet to prove they are real police and not propagandists, and say they fire because they refuse to follow orders:

https://www.invidio.us/watch?v=tEcgTp-HLws
https://www.invidio.us/watch?v=Nh3FxTm3ke0
https://www.invidio.us/watch?v=5L1Pniwhans
https://www.invidio.us/watch?v=TH_nO6fTaaA

All of the above is fully admitted by Lukashenko and his military - beatings, everything. He even publicly asked to apologize the police "who made some mistakes". His military chief apologized. Nobody even tries to conceal anything.

So here is the evidence.

Again I never argue for Tihanovskaya nor for any playing force there, I do not know her nor what are their real plans, I even saw her photo with Western jewish oligarch Harry Levi who is known to inspire such kind of offsprings, so I am also afraid that it is a trap. I just pretty worry about Belarusian people.

Thank you for agreeing that the opposition leaders are, same as all Colour revolutions, Soros funded, liberal, Jewish puppets. They are quite open and straightforward about their plans, they openly called for mass privatisation. I am sure that you know what this means - all profitable state-owned companies being purposely bankrupted, and then sold for 10, 20, or even 100 times less than the actual price to Jewish oligarchs, or Jew owned corporations. The same thing happened in nearly all Eastern European countries in the 90s, leading to extreme unemployment, millions emigrating from the country, extreme decrease of the standard of living, chaos in all state institutions, including justice and security institutions, and so on.

These protests in Belarus are a repeat of the Ukrainian Maidan... Ukraine before 2014 was a normal European country with an average standard of living, and was turned into a third world country. The average income per person after the Ukrainian "Revolution" of 2014 decreased in Ukraine from around $800 to $200 usd. Crime levels have become comparable to those in the drug cartel run cities in Mexico. Up to 9 million Ukrainians out of a total population of 42 million annually work abroad for some part of the year, around 4 million have regular full-time work outside the country, and most do not plan to return. Absolutely the same thing, if not worse, will happen to Belarus if Lukashenko resigns.

As for the brutal police crackdown on protesters that followed... In 2013 there was a colour revolution (Soros-funded protests) in my country as well. But unlike Lukashenko, our government decided to act like complete cucks, and ordered the police to not use any force against the protesters, even when the protesters were using force, and throwing stones at the police. Do you know what they did? They used fake blood and makeup and faked the 'police brutality'.

Of course, later it was proved that it was fake and staged, but only after the story about the 'muh peaceful protesters who were brutally beaten by the police for no reason at all' was plastered all over the media, and the government resigned... That's why I think acting like cucks with these protesters would be pointless, and force should be used when necessary.

To me, Lukashenko is currently the most awake and the least Jew controlled leader in Europe, and after the manner in which he opposed the Orwellian 'Pandemic' nothing can change my mind. But he is a leader of a small country in a Jew ruled world, so he was forced to make compromises, to be 'politically correct', to say things he doesn't mean, to do things he doesn't want, and so on. And he can't be blamed for this. In the present day social, economical, and political environment, you can't expect from a leader of a small country to establish the Fourth Reich, or even to be open and straightforward about the truths and hoaxes concerning subjects like the Jewish problem, and many other things.

 

[darkmonkey666]

“Through clever and constant application of propaganda, people can be made to see paradise as hell, and also the other way round, to consider the most wretched sort of life as paradise.”
― Adolf Hitler

There are people that use the same kind of arguements in the west about places like China and North Korea btw.

I'm posting in this topic for one last time, because it's really offensive to blame me for spreading 'communist propaganda'... I'm used to be blamed and attacked by people who haven't even looked at the issue being discussed, but it's disappointing that even in this forum some people are acting in the same manner. You not only have never heard of Belarus before, but you haven't even read the topic before blaming me for propagandizing communism... If you had at least read the topic, you would have noticed that literally the only argument for Belarus being a communist dictatorship is that the police used force against the protesters (like this doesn't happen in nearly every other protest, in every other country). Nothing else.

If I say that, for example, Italy (and many other countries) is thousands of times more of a dictatorship, and totalitarian regime than Belarus, I can easily prove it:

Here is what life in Belarus was, in the end of March, when the Covid-19 hysteria was at its peak - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9qijgzmtq8 open cafes, bars, restaurants, schools, gyms, sport events, full stadiums, no panic, no mass hysteria, and life going on normally.

And here is what life in Italy during the lockdown was, in case you've forgot:

A man injected with sedative drug by cops for simply trying to protest against the lockdown. - https://www.invidio.us/watch?v=6ZfanH5ue7Y

Desperate people in Italy who have run out of money and food - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsNWbfatRwg (while the average age of Covid-19 deaths in italy was 82, they basically starved the children to 'prevent' the 80+ years old people from dying.)

Now, where is the Belarusian 'terror greater than in North Korea'? Can you show me anything, except for the rioters against whom police officers have used force? And if not, then how are my statements "propaganda", but your's aren't? And how the countries where the whole population was locked under a house arrest, forced to wear slave masks, social isolation, social distance, fined for going to the park, and all of the Orwellian nightmare, are not a 'dictatorship', 'totalitarian regime', 'communist dystopia', and so on, but the only country that opposed this are?

Everyone else other than you is posting something else on this. Not to mention the guy is a confirmed communist. All the information I can find on this is negative on it elsewhere online.

I am just suggesting this not openly blaming you for anything.

This is a common tactic especially for North Korea to make it look to the outsiders as a paradise and nice in some way while its just "the western media telling lies on this" I admit with actual communist propaganda little to anything is ever said directly on the Jews usually and nothing negative about Marxism is applied uaually. But that can be added to make it palatable to certain places I bet. They do try to adapt to everything.

You can bet if the beliefs of the masses were changed a little they would switch tactics and what they say with it they might even call communism Nazism or something if that is what the masses were looking for and switch around a bunch of terms to make the same nonsense look friendly to us. They do infiltrate all sorts of Nazi groups already. Don't put anything past anyone keep an open mind.

I just want you to be aware on what your sources are of things. Just cause the western media is negative about something doesnt mean its good. Some western media articles are negative about Stalin and the Soviet Union and have been for awhile. Does that mean its good. Some western media articles are negative on Putin. Does that mean he is good.

Try to get objective facts. The Jews like to play both sides on a lot of stuff and distract people from the truth.

Ok so to me I dont know as your directly trying to post propaganda or anything not saying you are. I think personally you probably were reading it or listening to it at some point and got your opinions from that. So just be aware.

Good Luck.