Advanced brothers and sisters. Which meditations of ours I can offer to do for non-dedicated

[Draconi666]

Can non dedicated do opening soul?

I have friend very interested in here.

And he tries to open his chakras but as I guess he does everything form outer source.

Is it safe for him would do opening soul without dedication? He just not ready for dedication yet, but he wants to do opening.

So my main question is what meditations can he do from beginner section?

I am sure those meditations like foundation one would be dangerous for him, because he can breathe in negative shit, also AoP too I think would not be adviced as there is breathing in energy involved, energy meditation and past life regression.

The rest he can do?

 

[Henu the Great]

Anything that evolves one's power is potentially dangerous without the Gods being as a backup. But we can't know if this person already is a past-life Satanist and as such would have guidance and care from Gods even before dedication ritual during this life.

 

[AFODO]

No definitely don't do the opening.
The first month's meditations from the 6 months training are safe, and similar meditations like flame, void..
I would offer them to try to fall in trance, and void meditation, and than they should continue reading and than dedicate eventually.
But nothing about the chakras and rituals etc..

Additionally, you can ask the Gods to guide them to dedication.

 

[NakedPluto [JG]]

Simple trance. They will need to prove themselves if they want to know more and are able in this regard. Proving one self is the constant in creating one self, a testament of existence.

Opening the chakras as an outsider is solving a riddle without the knowledge that an answer exists. One should confront the reality that answers exists first, so they are open to finding them. In plain terms, promote this potentiality and possibility to this person.

 

[The Alchemist7 [JG]]

Some meditations such as trance (I mean the basic state of trance or maximum a deeper relaxation where you don't feel your body anymore, and not more advanced trance states where you can for example see glimpses from your past lives or program your subconscious mind), void meditation, a few very basic breathing exercises (the first/initiatory ones), these are generally quite popular nowadays outside JoS, especially among spiritually-focused writings or platforms or groups, so probably these are generally safe for non-Satanists to perform in order to gain the benefits of them such as stress management or getting hold of a chaotic mind.

However any more than this, like it has been said above it is dangerous to do outside being a Spiritual Satanist, not only because of the risk of potential astral or other attacks (I actually know someone who got to this point), but also because most people don't know how to advance steadily and safely, to follow a clear advancement path where there are no risks of unintentional self-harm or health issues being caused by powerful meditations being done repeatedly in the wrong time when the soul is not yet ready for that level of energy. For outsiders this includes any sort of vibration, any runes/mantras/power words, any more advanced and complex breathing exercises and basically everything in the meditation table excluding the ones mentioned at the beginning.

 

[Sungio13]

All amazing replies above, the only other thing I would say is safe would be the Introspective Meditations.

Introspective Meditation:
https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=63176&p=285584&hilit=Introspective#p285584

 

[Invictvs]

And he tries to open his chakras but as I guess he does everything form outer source.

Lol, your friend has the wrong idea. Nobody said that only the meditations from JoS are dangerous. If you try to do the same meditation from another source, it's equally dangerous, because they are often corrupted.

However, I don't believe just opening the chakras is dangerous. See where I disagree with some people:

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Simple trance. They will need to prove themselves if they want to know more and are able in this regard. Proving one self is the constant in creating one self, a testament of existence.

I would offer them to try to fall in trance, and void meditation, and than they should continue reading and than dedicate eventually.
But nothing about the chakras and rituals etc..

Dear brothers, you do know that for someone to dedicate themselves they need to be absolutely sure, right? And that some people need more proof than others, and will only be satisfied if they open their chakras and astral senses and contact the Gods astrally, right?

How then are you just expecting them to take such a big step and do the dedication ritual (which is the most important commitment of a lifetime and cannot be undone) on blind faith alone?

Of course, before they dedicate themselves one must to whatever they have to to verify this for themselves, even if it involves feeling their energy and their chakras or awakening their astral senses or doing rituals to feel Satan's energy.

Satanism isn't a blind-faith based religion and doesn't expect to blindly do the dedication.

 

[Draconi666]

Anything that evolves one's power is potentially dangerous without the Gods being as a backup. But we can't know if this person already is a past-life Satanist and as such would have guidance and care from Gods even before dedication ritual during this life.

The thing is, why I am so concerned about him. Because he has experience in astral with ”somebody”, which is correct, he don’t know what it is, but how he was telling me, it was same experiences which we get when Demons works with us on astral and etc, and not one or two times but a lot of experiences.
Also he has amazing chart which is perfect for being SS…
Very talented, psichic, interested in occult and etc..etc…
What he told me The things he did on astral with “Somebody” there, was things we do in Satanic meditations and etc.. I don’t want to get into details, but when I am with him I feel I am with brother
I dont want to intrude him too much, but I can’t to not care for him.

 

[Draconi666]

Thanks everyone

 

[AFODO]

1.
Some people need years of practicing of the 8FP to have actual proof and to be open enough to understand the nature of things. Not everyone will see rainbows after vibrating Thaum into their 3rd eye for 4 days, in fact this is very rare, but even after months or a year. While feeling the pressure of the energy is easy, you just have to focus on your top of your finger and it works for almost everyone, but feeling energies in the higher sense is much more advanced, same with astral senses, they won't be functional in a short amount of time.

2.
I was definitely not that person who encountered the JoS and dedicated myself the next or on that day like Lydia. These people either reconnected with the path that they walked for a long time, and thus be completely sure about it, or naive idiots.

Me personally I was doing researches and was unsure about it for like a year or a bit less. Now this isn't optimal either, but the thing is, that I have this negative karma that I get bored easily, and I could not read trough a whole sermon. So I missed some information, and my research wasn't that effective, if I could have read normally and persistent, than maybe it would have taken like 4-6 months.

3.
Lurking around Satanism while not being dedicated is in itself very dangerous. The longer you lurk around the higher the chance the enemy will deceive you.
This is how it goes:

A newcomer on their Windows 11 or 10, that sends every information about their activity to Jews and analysing machines, open up JoS on their browser which does the same as their operation system, Will get every kind of suggestions or ads on every platforms that will mislead them. Suggestions about enemy ""Satanists""", or christianity, kike films, "exposing jos", etc..
And that's it. This will, in the best case just lengthen the time of their research, or else, they will be completely uninterested in- or be scared of Satanism.

Not to mention their Thought forms that are programmed to automatically attack newcomers, because essentially, they are the most vulnerable targets.

or doing rituals to feel Satan's energy

Now this is even more dangerous, following the above logic.

 

[Henu the Great]

Satanism isn't a blind-faith based religion and doesn't expect to blindly do the dedication.

LoL.

Many of us instinctively know this to be the path. It's not as simple as you say. It's not like we have not had experiences of many sorts before dedication, during this life, and earlier...

 

[Draconi666]

And he tries to open his chakras but as I guess he does everything form outer source.

Lol, your friend has the wrong idea. Nobody said that only the meditations from JoS are dangerous. If you try to do the same meditation from another source, it's equally dangerous, because they are often corrupted.

However, I don't believe just opening the chakras is dangerous. See where I disagree with some people:

" post_id=481091 time=1704394504 user_id=21004]
Simple trance. They will need to prove themselves if they want to know more and are able in this regard. Proving one self is the constant in creating one self, a testament of existence.

I would offer them to try to fall in trance, and void meditation, and than they should continue reading and than dedicate eventually.
But nothing about the chakras and rituals etc..

Dear brothers, you do know that for someone to dedicate themselves they need to be absolutely sure, right? And that some people need more proof than others, and will only be satisfied if they open their chakras and astral senses and contact the Gods astrally, right?

How then are you just expecting them to take such a big step and do the dedication ritual (which is the most important commitment of a lifetime and cannot be undone) on blind faith alone?

Of course, before they dedicate themselves one must to whatever they have to to verify this for themselves, even if it involves feeling their energy and their chakras or awakening their astral senses or doing rituals to feel Satan's energy.

Satanism isn't a blind-faith based religion and doesn't expect to blindly do the dedication.

Ok he is not dedicated if he opens chakras and enemy starts to play with him? He is without protection. Negativity progammed into chakras may starts to manifest in big portions. He is open to enemy influence inside out, this is definetly dangerous… this is works not like that…

It comes naturally by finding truth, clinging into it, meditating and eventually dedicating, then starting to open soul. It best this way and most safe…

In this case he is interested in JoS, and he studies even, started to do yoga and meditating…

This is only positive. ^^

 

[The Alchemist7 [JG]]

Dear brothers, you do know that for someone to dedicate themselves they need to be absolutely sure, right? And that some people need more proof than others, and will only be satisfied if they open their chakras and astral senses and contact the Gods astrally, right?

How then are you just expecting them to take such a big step and do the dedication ritual (which is the most important commitment of a lifetime and cannot be undone) on blind faith alone?

Great thinking! Nobody should ever be expected to become a Satanist out of blind faith or by simply "believing" in the spiritual knowledge that is written on JoS. However you completely ignore the other implications of Spiritual Satanism. Beside spiritual practices, there is also a historical background that goes back thousands of years (literally many of the practices that you see on JoS now, are the same as they have been 3000-4000+ years ago), there is endless evidence of how judeo-christianity and islam turned this course of the history around, evidence of the ancients having deep knowledge of spirituality, sciences, some metaphysical phenomena being well documented nowadays etc. Doesn't this count as evidence to support that Spiritual Satanism and Joy of Satan is the only "religion" that connects Humanity with its real Creators/Gods again?

What evidence are you exactly looking for? Obviously for security and safety reasons, nobody is going to put themselves on a camera meditating or vibrating runes or mantras or proving their "abilities" (for those who developed any) to "prove" that they "work". At this moment in time this is not a great idea to do, maybe 5-10 years in the future such exposure will be a lot safer compared to now. Other than this, things like telepathy, aura, astral projection etc., many of these non-physical phenomena have been studied, researched and demonstrated before, or put in application in times of war as another example. Reality is a lot bigger than what we only see with eyes.

Of course, before they dedicate themselves one must to whatever they have to to verify this for themselves, even if it involves feeling their energy and their chakras or awakening their astral senses or doing rituals to feel Satan's energy.

Everybody is free to do as they please, but if one is to perform these practices without dedicating then they automatically also must realize the potential risks they are exposing themselves to and JoS is not to be blamed for someone's personal decisions to play around with runes or the chakras just to "convince themselves", if this is the sort of evidence they are looking for. Spiritual attacks on someone happen in a "dimension" most people have no access to because of not having the spiritual experience and practice to reach it, and the dedication ritual by blood ensures the Gods will protect a person from such spiritual attacks so they can start practicing what you mentioned safely. The reality is that there have been outsiders who lost their sanity or their heath because of having no clue about how to meditate. Whether others like it or not, irrespective of how delusional this may sound to outsiders, Joy of Satan is the global powerhouse when it comes to real spiritual knowledge and this fact will only prove itself more and more as time goes and more and more people will understand what JoS exactly is.

 

[Yagami Light]

The thing is, why I am so concerned about him. Because he has experience in astral with ”somebody”, which is correct, he don’t know what it is, but how he was telling me, it was same experiences which we get when Demons works with us on astral and etc, and not one or two times but a lot of experiences.
Also he has amazing chart which is perfect for being SS…
Very talented, psichic, interested in occult and etc..etc…
What he told me The things he did on astral with “Somebody” there, was things we do in Satanic meditations and etc.. I don’t want to get into details, but when I am with him I feel I am with brother
I dont want to intrude him too much, but I can’t to not care for him.

Hello Brother/Sister.
Throughout the years, I have met many people with extremely spiritually potential astrological charts. However, I have come to understand that this isn't necessarily a reason/factor for someone to join our path (or if they would even be fitting for our path). One of those people I had met was gay, and at the same a time, a devoid xtian... go figure.

Many people may not be ready to join us, or subconsciously unwilling.

Regardless, if someone is into meditations, the spiritual world, etc, I always advice them to just do aura cleaning (and in the future chakras cleaning). Maybe an aura of protection as well (with just breathing, in order for them to also believe in themselves and their own protection), but none of them really get far. I mean, they just stop doing things because they don't have a higher goal like us, and they can't see the bigger picture like we do.

These are all things to take into consideration. I had also met someone (heavily influenced by the enemy), to whom I had suggested aura cleaning, and when he tried to do it, he got immediately terrified (enemy attack).

I understand that the person you're talking about is not like that, but you should have in mind that his perspective is different from ours.

 

[Draconi666]

Hello Brother/Sister.
Throughout the years, I have met many people with extremely spiritually potential astrological charts. However, I have come to understand that this isn't necessarily a reason/factor for someone to join our path (or if they would even be fitting for our path). One of those people I had met was gay, and at the same a time, a devoid xtian... go figure.

Many people may not be ready to join us, or subconsciously unwilling.

Regardless, if someone is into meditations, the spiritual world, etc, I always advice them to just do aura cleaning (and in the future chakras cleaning). Maybe an aura of protection as well (with just breathing, in order for them to also believe in themselves and their own protection), but none of them really get far. I mean, they just stop doing things because they don't have a higher goal like us, and they can't see the bigger picture like we do.

These are all things to take into consideration. I had also met someone (heavily influenced by the enemy), to whom I had suggested aura cleaning, and when he tried to do it, he got immediately terrified (enemy attack).

I understand that the person you're talking about is not like that, but you should have in mind that his perspective is different from ours.

Thank you brother/sister, I am brother … I myself was thinking about his perspective, and ours, about all this you have mentioned here actually I was thinking also at that time, but somehow I was ignoring these toughts that he is outsider and etc.,
I was feeling deep connection with that person in the past when I was not SS.
But now after meeting him few times I started to see where he is in the life and yes, now I agree with you and actually your reply provoked conclusion for myself about how I should approach this, instead of these toughts being abandoned and not reasoned out, you made it happen for me as I was almost forgot to finish this tought process.

Thank you.

 

[Yagami Light]

Thank you brother/sister, I am brother … I myself was thinking about his perspective, and ours, about all this you have mentioned here actually I was thinking also at that time, but somehow I was ignoring these toughts that he is outsider and etc.,
I was feeling deep connection with that person in the past when I was not SS.
But now after meeting him few times I started to see where he is in the life and yes, now I agree with you and actually your reply provoked conclusion for myself about how I should approach this, instead of these toughts being abandoned and not reasoned out, you made it happen for me as I was almost forgot to finish this tought process.

Thank you.

I am happy to have helped.