Would multiplying the vibrations in a sun square increase intensity?

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Would multiplying the vibrations in a sun square increase intensity?

Postby Brdredr » Sat Sep 23, 2017 6:53 am

If it works that way for runes, would it work that way for Sun Squares as well?

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Re: Would multiplying the vibrations in a sun square increase intensity?

Postby Brdredr » Sat Sep 23, 2017 7:55 am

I meant to post this thread in Joy Of Satan 666, not the newsletter. That's my bad.

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Re: Would multiplying the vibrations in a sun square increase intensity?

Postby Aquarius » Sat Sep 23, 2017 9:49 am

No, all squares have specific numbers that cannot be changed, if you just vibrate one time less or more your square is screwed.
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Re: Would multiplying the vibrations in a sun square increase intensity?

Postby FancyMancy » Sun Oct 15, 2017 12:46 am

You could just repeat the square at the correct Astrological time, if you want or need to.
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Re: Would multiplying the vibrations in a sun square increase intensity?

Postby VoiceofEnki » Thu Oct 19, 2017 1:05 am

As aquarius has said, you cannot change the numbers in the magical squares, the numbers are very specific, they might look random, however the sum of each colum is exactly the same (both horizontally and vertically).


Changing a single number messes up the square in it's entirety. Even just switching two numbers completely destroys the square as the energies are not alligned perfectly.

The sum of the total square is the number associated with the planet the square represents, which is associated with it's higher dimensional energy and meaning.

I don't know all the specifics behind it though as it is a deep topic that requires quite a bit of research to fully understand, but you absolutely cannot change or increase any of the numbers. The magical squares are a completely different thing than the Runes, with energy a lot more precise and focussed so long as it is done right and no mistakes are made.

If you're afraid you'll mess up the square when starting a planetary working, you can opt to simply use the planetary square mantra and vibrate it for a set amount of reps daily, like say 88 or 108, or a number that fits best for the working you are planning to do.

The planetary mantra's hold power on their own as well, so this method works fine if you have trouble finishing a square correctly. There is little more frustrating in meditation than messing up a Mercury square on the second to last day and ruining it.

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Re: Would multiplying the vibrations in a sun square increase intensity?

Postby ss666 » Sun Nov 05, 2017 9:36 pm

Can you do the square in 1 day? Will it give you an effect, even if it's not the full potential?

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Re: Would multiplying the vibrations in a sun square increase intensity?

Postby AncientShadow666 » Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:23 pm

ss666 wrote:Can you do the square in 1 day? Will it give you an effect, even if it's not the full potential?


no, square is exactly what it seems to be: you HAVE TO DO IT as it is said, you CANNOT CHANGE IT

square is serious work with numbers, you cannot change it the way you want it to be changed, that is why it is a square, you have to do do that many mantras as it is said to be done on that day aswell as that many days how much the square requires...if you just change one number or vibrate one mantra 1 time more or less it is over, you can start again, or if you forgett a day the same thing, square is serious and requires discipline aswell as the concentration so that you do the numbers as required... make something that will help you count, i usually use cards, or you can even use rosary if you have one, or anything basicly that will help you count so that you DO NOT MAKE A MISTAKE and DO NOT WASTE A TIME... i would be angry if i would fuck it up on the last day :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Would multiplying the vibrations in a sun square increase intensity?

Postby ss666 » Mon Nov 06, 2017 11:35 pm

AncientShadow666 wrote:
ss666 wrote:Can you do the square in 1 day? Will it give you an effect, even if it's not the full potential?


no, square is exactly what it seems to be: you HAVE TO DO IT as it is said, you CANNOT CHANGE IT

square is serious work with numbers, you cannot change it the way you want it to be changed, that is why it is a square, you have to do do that many mantras as it is said to be done on that day aswell as that many days how much the square requires...if you just change one number or vibrate one mantra 1 time more or less it is over, you can start again, or if you forgett a day the same thing, square is serious and requires discipline aswell as the concentration so that you do the numbers as required... make something that will help you count, i usually use cards, or you can even use rosary if you have one, or anything basicly that will help you count so that you DO NOT MAKE A MISTAKE and DO NOT WASTE A TIME... i would be angry if i would fuck it up on the last day :lol: :lol: :lol:


Thank you for the answer! My discipline is bad so I sometimes forget and skip a day, though I can do the exact number each day because I use a paper and make a mark each vibration. I'll stick with the lower squares for now :D

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Re: Would multiplying the vibrations in a sun square increase intensity?

Postby AncientShadow666 » Tue Nov 07, 2017 12:47 pm

ss666 wrote:
AncientShadow666 wrote:
ss666 wrote:Can you do the square in 1 day? Will it give you an effect, even if it's not the full potential?


no, square is exactly what it seems to be: you HAVE TO DO IT as it is said, you CANNOT CHANGE IT

square is serious work with numbers, you cannot change it the way you want it to be changed, that is why it is a square, you have to do do that many mantras as it is said to be done on that day aswell as that many days how much the square requires...if you just change one number or vibrate one mantra 1 time more or less it is over, you can start again, or if you forgett a day the same thing, square is serious and requires discipline aswell as the concentration so that you do the numbers as required... make something that will help you count, i usually use cards, or you can even use rosary if you have one, or anything basicly that will help you count so that you DO NOT MAKE A MISTAKE and DO NOT WASTE A TIME... i would be angry if i would fuck it up on the last day :lol: :lol: :lol:


Thank you for the answer! My discipline is bad so I sometimes forget and skip a day, though I can do the exact number each day because I use a paper and make a mark each vibration. I'll stick with the lower squares for now :D


just make a plan, i write a journal for each day what meditations i already did, then in another journal i just write the full current programms im doing and i always check it before meditation to see what to do in the mornings, which in the evenings and sometimes i even have some which i do "daily" like at any time OR because they are time depended like for example if i do some works for 6th chakra i try to do it in the moon hours if that is possible, and i also have one journal for the rune workings since i do lots of workings with the runes aswell as my own researches and experiments so i keep these seperate... but yeah once you have more to do then just write it all down and check it every day so you will never forgett it... even the things you wish to do as soon as you can or things that you will start soon enough, write them somewhere down so that you dont forgett the day when you can start some workings etc.... just keep writing and then you dont need to think when to do what, when you can just open your journal and read it all :D this is at least how i do it, i know that i can only get disciplined if i write my shit down otherwise im just gonna play lazy... i have to organize or i wont do anything :lol:
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releasing their victory sound
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can't you see their smile?
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Re: Would multiplying the vibrations in a sun square increase intensity?

Postby ss666 » Tue Nov 07, 2017 7:26 pm

@AncientShadow666

Thank you for the suggestions. Writing a journal is good, but the drawback is that someone can catch you, so you need to write at least with a Caesar cipher (preferably without vowels to avoid a bit the frequency distribution attack), which is a pain. For very complex projects I use Trello to track the progress. But I guess you're right you do need to track your progress for optimal results!

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Re: Would multiplying the vibrations in a sun square increase intensity?

Postby BoRn of fire » Mon Feb 05, 2018 11:43 pm

Raising ur energy before square like with satanas or raum can amplify the square raum meditation is very good as it is a primer and empowers the entire soul

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Re: Would multiplying the vibrations in a sun square increase intensity?

Postby Stormblood » Sat Feb 10, 2018 9:43 am

BoRn of fire wrote:Raising ur energy before square like with satanas or raum can amplify the square raum meditation is very good as it is a primer and empowers the entire soul


Mh, no. A simple Raum doesn't empower the entire soul. It empowers what you are focusing it on, whether a particular chakra or the aura. The Raum meditation is what empowers the entire soul. Follows the link to the Raum meditation: http://see_the_truth.webs.com/Raum_Meditation.htm

As a side note, please try to set up sentences in the correct fashion. *calls other Grammar Nazis such as Lydia and FancyMancy*

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Re: Would multiplying the vibrations in a sun square increase intensity?

Postby Lydia » Sat Feb 10, 2018 12:57 pm

Stormblood wrote:. *calls other Grammar Nazis such as Lydia and FancyMancy*


Lol, I am not longer a Grammar Nazi though. I hung up that hat after I had to have an email conversation from a tablet, it just took too long to constantly press the extra keys (shift, etc) with only one finger. And then I realized there are probably people here typing from their phones or tablets as well, and after multiple posts over years they probably just gave up. To be honest I would as well.
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Re: Would multiplying the vibrations in a sun square increase intensity?

Postby Stormblood » Sun Feb 11, 2018 2:17 am

Lydia wrote:
Stormblood wrote:. *calls other Grammar Nazis such as Lydia and FancyMancy*


Lol, I am not longer a Grammar Nazi though. I hung up that hat after I had to have an email conversation from a tablet, it just took too long to constantly press the extra keys (shift, etc) with only one finger. And then I realized there are probably people here typing from their phones or tablets as well, and after multiple posts over years they probably just gave up. To be honest I would as well.

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Re: Would multiplying the vibrations in a sun square increase intensity?

Postby BoRn of fire » Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:42 pm

Stormblood wrote:
BoRn of fire wrote:Raising ur energy before square like with satanas or raum can amplify the square raum meditation is very good as it is a primer and empowers the entire soul


Mh, no. A simple Raum doesn't empower the entire soul. It empowers what you are focusing it on, whether a particular chakra or the aura. The Raum meditation is what empowers the entire soul. Follows the link to the Raum meditation: http://see_the_truth.webs.com/Raum_Meditation.htm

As a side note, please try to set up sentences in the correct fashion. *calls other Grammar Nazis such as Lydia and FancyMancy*
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Re: Would multiplying the vibrations in a sun square increase intensity?

Postby donsay2012 » Mon Aug 20, 2018 2:42 am

And please have any one use the sun square for their advantage, and please how did it go.
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Re: Would multiplying the vibrations in a sun square increase intensity?

Postby Braun666 » Thu Aug 23, 2018 10:12 pm

donsay2012 wrote:And please have any one use the sun square for their advantage, and please how did it go.


Having done two sun squares for general purposes(protection, health... etc.) in the last two years timed properly when the sun was in leo. Here are some effects you may experience based on what I myself went through...

*Better life opportunities & overall better quality of life
*Increased money earning potential, an opportunities there
*Instant healing of several ailments, removal of blockages(Saturn rules blockages & limitations)
*More confidence and overall happiness

If you are thinking about doing it. Don't think about it. DO it! I speak from experience when I tell you that it may change your life and outlook on life. Not only that but it's permanent. So this may or may not be evident or immediate at first but you WILL certainly see the positive effects this square can have in your life. I'm forever grateful and deeply thankful for the information we have here at JoS, it really does/can FULLY change your life, if only you choose it to do so and take advantage of it!

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Re: Would multiplying the vibrations in a sun square increase intensity?

Postby Braun666 » Thu Aug 23, 2018 10:19 pm

Stormblood wrote:
BoRn of fire wrote:Raising ur energy before square like with satanas or raum can amplify the square raum meditation is very good as it is a primer and empowers the entire soul


Mh, no. A simple Raum doesn't empower the entire soul. It empowers what you are focusing it on, whether a particular chakra or the aura. The Raum meditation is what empowers the entire soul. Follows the link to the Raum meditation: http://see_the_truth.webs.com/Raum_Meditation.htm

As a side note, please try to set up sentences in the correct fashion. *calls other Grammar Nazis such as Lydia and FancyMancy*


I've been doing this meditation on a daily basis for about two years now & I agree. It's power grows and grows and it's so powerful that my soul has changed A LOT for the better with doing this before my day starts & some people are actually able to pick up on the difference of my soul and I get more noticed then others*those without* if need be. It's a great meditation given to us by our Antichrist, that has really changed a lot for me and overtime if one is doing this meditation daily*Just 15min of your time* one will find they have more energies to work with for their workings & in manifesting desires.
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Re: Would multiplying the vibrations in a sun square increase intensity?

Postby BoRn of fire » Fri Aug 24, 2018 8:43 pm

Braun666 wrote:
Stormblood wrote:
BoRn of fire wrote:Raising ur energy before square like with satanas or raum can amplify the square raum meditation is very good as it is a primer and empowers the entire soul


Mh, no. A simple Raum doesn't empower the entire soul. It empowers what you are focusing it on, whether a particular chakra or the aura. The Raum meditation is what empowers the entire soul. Follows the link to the Raum meditation: http://see_the_truth.webs.com/Raum_Meditation.htm

As a side note, please try to set up sentences in the correct fashion. *calls other Grammar Nazis such as Lydia and FancyMancy*


I've been doing this meditation on a daily basis for about two years now & I agree. It's power grows and grows and it's so powerful that my soul has changed A LOT for the better with doing this before my day starts & some people are actually able to pick up on the difference of my soul and I get more noticed then others*those without* if need be. It's a great meditation given to us by our Antichrist, that has really changed a lot for me and overtime if one is doing this meditation daily*Just 15min of your time* one will find they have more energies to work with for their workings & in manifesting desires.
yip totally I'm glad to hear ur experience with raum meditation I personally choose it over other methods before a working

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Re: Would multiplying the vibrations in a sun square increase intensity?

Postby SS322 » Sun Oct 07, 2018 9:58 am

I wouldn't alter the number of vibrations of the squares. What's the point of using the square then? Different number = different meaning.

For Runes I always chant them the number of their numerical value according to the FUThARK:

Fehu = one time
Uruz = two times
Thurs = three times
Ansuz = 4
Raidho = 5
Kennaz = 6
... and so on.

Note Kennaz is 6 so KKK = 666. Albert Pike must have known about this when he founded the Klan. Kennaz is also the Rune of enlightenment/illumination.

Raidho is 5 and good for working with the base chakra as it's a Rune of transportation and energy. The base chakra has four extensions (the two hip chakras and one on the front and rear), making them five alltogether.
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Re: Would multiplying the vibrations in a sun square increase intensity?

Postby SS322 » Sun Oct 07, 2018 10:59 am

For those of you who are weak in discipline and afraid they will mess up a square start with Saturn 45. It's done in 9 days and you don't have to do more than nine repetitions a day. On the website they warn you about possible negative effects of Saturn but I didn't experience anything bad and I have done that simple mediation many times now that Saturn is in Capricorn. Until a few weeks ago Saturn was retrograde but not any more so you can start the square next saturday in the planetary hour of Saturn. I found that the practice of chanting the mantra in the right way at the right time alone amplifies discipline and timing. Saturn = lord of structure; lack of discipline = lack of structure

Mars is also very strong and good. The square is easier and faster than that of the sun but has similar effects against weakness and diseases and for strengthening the male part of the soul. Also Mars has been visible in the night sky for about half a year now. My friends and me were amazed when Mars came out next to the blood moon on July 27th. Watch out for the big, bright orange star in the constellation of Capricorn! According the sidereal zodiac (which is the zodiac as you actually see it in the night sky) Mars is still in Capricorn which would allow to do the Mars square as well (in my humble opinion). The planet being visible should boost the working.

I often do the RAUM meditation with IO and EA before the RtR. Has anyone noticed that Raum is also a Demon and equal to the Egyptian God Khnum? By the way, Raum simply means room in German.

Here the planetary mantras in IAST, just for fun:

Auṃ prāṃ prīṃ prauṃ saḥ Śanaye namaḥ (/svaḥ)
Auṃ krāṃ krīṃ krauṃ so Bhaumāya namaḥ (/svaḥ)
Auṃ hrāṃ hrīṃ hrauṃ saḥ Suryāya namaḥ (/svaḥ)
Auṃ brāṃ brīṃ brauṃ so Buddhāya namaḥ (/svaḥ)
Auṃ drāṃ drīṃ drauṃ saḥ Śukrāya namaḥ (/svaḥ)
Auṃ śrāṃ śrīṃ śrauṃ saḥ Candramase (/Somāya) namaḥ (/svaḥ)
Auṃ grāṃ, grīṃ grauṃ so Gurave namaḥ (/svaḥ)

The word "saḥ" or "so" means he (because the planetary Gods are male in Sanskrit) and the word is changed according to which sound comes therafter. I don't know why they write "sau" instead of "saḥ" or "so" on the Joy of Satan website but that is actually a corruption, no matter if it may sound more powerful or not. At the end of a verse or sentence the little Ḥ is normally pronounced as an H which makes an echo of the vowel before it but in front of a voiceless sound it is assimilated into a hssing sound. In front of voiced sounds and vowels the combination "aḥ" turns into "o". The E and O in Sanskrit are always pronounced long as in "hey" and "boat". The Ś is similar to the English "sh" but more hissing, almost like the H in the English word "huge" (the equivalent to English "sh" would be Ṣ). In front of Candramase the Ḥ is also turns into Ś which results in "saścandramase" as the only right pronounciation (the sound combination "śc" is very common in Slavic languages). I hope this little language lesson clears more confusion than it creates. Candra's bīja-mantra "śrīṃ" also means lucky or auspicious by the way. Hrīṃ and śrīṃ are used often in Hindu mantras not even connected to planetary workings. You can use these bījākṣaras to infuse other mantras with the power of the sun and moon.
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Re: Would multiplying the vibrations in a sun square increase intensity?

Postby Stormblood » Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:28 am

Because the JoS Ministries has been working on removing corruption. So it's Sah the corrupted version, Shanaye (correct version for the planetary square: shanisvara). And in chandramase the ch is the German 'ch' as can be heard in the audio recordings provided by HPS Maxine.

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Postby SS322 » Mon Oct 08, 2018 5:26 pm

Stormblood wrote:Because the JoS Ministries has been working on removing corruption. So it's Sah the corrupted version, Shanaye (correct version for the planetary square: shanisvara). And in chandramase the ch is the German 'ch' as can be heard in the audio recordings provided by HPS Maxine.


Saḥ is the correct form although it is pronounced as "sas" in front of "Soma", "Sūrya" and other names starting with a voiceless dental sound. It is pronounced "saṣ" when it's followed by a retroflex sound, pronounced as "saś" when followed by palatal sound and "so" when followed by a voiced sound or vowel. Sau never occurs, but the ending "au" would imply that it's a dual form of a word, meaning that there would be two of it which makes no sense in this case. Apart from that the dual form of "saḥ" (= he) would be "tau" (= both men/boys).

The German "ch" is more similar to the Sanskrit Ś, at least when it comes after a "bright" vowel or diphthong. After "dark" vowels and diphthongs the German "ch" is pronounced like the Russian "ch" or the Arabic "kh". "Bright" vowels and dihpthongs in German are e, i, ie, ä, ö, ü, ei, ai, äu and eu (ei and ai are both pronounced "eye" and äu and eu are both pronounced "oy"). "Dark" vowels and diphthongs are a, o, u and au.

The C in Sanskrit is a stop and more similar to the "ch" in the English words chin or children but a real equivalent doesn't exist in English. The most similar sound to it in a European language is the "ty" from Hungarian or the Q from Albanian (Albanian word for Albania = Shqip ~ "Ścip"). It should also be noted that in Sanskrit there is a regular C and an aspirated CH and the only difference between them is that one is aspirated and the other isn't. Sometimes they spell them "ch" and "chh" instead.

You can say Śanaye or Śanīśvarāya for Saturn, just as you can say Candrāya, Candramase or Somāya for the moon. The planetary Gods can be called by various names, as long as you use the correct dative case of the name or your whole sentence will lack meaning. Only "Śanīśvara" would be wrong. It's supposed to be "Śanīśvarāya" which is the dative singular of "Śanīśvaraḥ".

Funny what those names mean:

Śaniḥ = slow / the slow one
Śanīśvaraḥ = the slow lord
Guruḥ = heavy / the heavy one
Sūryaḥ = the sun
Candraḥ = the moon
Candramas = the moon / God of the moon (Candra is also a common name for men and thus the name of the God is declensed differently with the ending "mas").
Somaḥ = juice (sunoti = he/she/it presses)
Śukraḥ = sperm / semen, the male seed
Buddhaḥ = being awakend / the awakend one
Bhaumaḥ = son of the earth (Bhūmi)
Mangalaḥ = the lucky/auspicious one
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Re: Would multiplying the vibrations in a sun square increase intensity?

Postby HP Mageson666 » Wed Oct 10, 2018 3:36 pm

The fact is the squares are not corrupt they were given by the Gods and I have used them they work.

Its not Sa its Sau this is the normal expanding of the mantra with the AU. The AU relates to the meaning of immortality and truth. And the SAU mantra does appear as Sau as well in bija mantra's. Its expanding the fire element the S with the AU.

Now if a person was to understand how many of the eastern mantra's have been watered down and the knowledge of sanskrit watered down.... They might not be so quick to act the expert on the subject. There is a reason out of the numerous other names that could be used for the planets we where given those ones....... I can tell those opposed on this thread actually don't know because they post some mantra that is not in its proper form to try and use this to replace one of the square mantra's we where given by the Gods....

You might as well stop using the Raum Meditation because that came from the Gods who showed us where it had been removed from a specific yantra. But your not going to find that in a book wrote by people with watered down information to then attempt to attack the quality of the same the Gods have given us. How many articles have I written showing where information from the east has been corrupted by this time as well.

There is a reason a person does not have to sit for hours doing hundreds of thousands of reps of the Raum Meditation to get a powerful effect from it. Raum is the proper ancient name of Ram, Rama in Sanskrit.

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Re: Would multiplying the vibrations in a sun square increase intensity?

Postby Braun666 » Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:31 pm

HP Mageson666 wrote:You might as well stop using the Raum Meditation because that came from the Gods who showed us where it had been removed from a specific yantra.


Not to really derail from the thread... But some time ago I inquired on the book in which the yantra was found for the RAUM meditation. I received no response(perhaps it passed unseen &/or unnoticed).

I meant to ask this again as respectfully as possible... What was the book it was found in?
If it isn't safe to reveal on this thread, perhaps an email?? I know it might be a book corrupted, of course with much needed deciphering such as for the Yantra that had the RAUM meditation watered down.

But I'm curious as I'd be interested in reading said book and seeing the references within it, for the future. If it can't be revealed I understand, just thought I'd try asking again.

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Re: Would multiplying the vibrations in a sun square increase intensity?

Postby HP Mageson666 » Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:52 pm

I already answered this before and posted up links and such, your going to have to start another thread for that subject.

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Re: Would multiplying the vibrations in a sun square increase intensity?

Postby Braun666 » Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:54 pm

HP Mageson666 wrote:I already answered this before and posted up links and such, your going to have to start another thread for that subject.


Okay, will do.
Sorry for the obvious derailment.
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