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HeilOdin666 said:"The Vedic texts openly state the purpose of Yoga is to achieve physical immortality the Tantra's and Upanishad's both state this. The Tibetans original Bon tradition is based on the Rainbow Body Perfection. Which has two levels the first level is physical immortality the magnum opus and the second or called lesser rainbow body is the ones the new agers popularize the making the astral body immortal. But the physical body is dissolved to make this happen. The high level is the full one. However the new agers don't mention this."
Do you care to share what specific lines in the texts state the goal is immortality? That's very interesting. If it would require more than a simple quote and would be a big hassle don't worry about it.
Also did you post the order wrong? I thought astral immortality would come before physical. And what all is meant by astral immortality? I already am immortal in a way considering I've lived and died before. Thus having never really died.
Lastly what is meant by dissolving the body? Are we supposed to shoot ourselves dead? Someone else can try that first and I'll observe the results. If it all checks out I will join.
Much of Tantric Kundalini Yoga is hence in the mystic verses of the Rig Veda itself.
“The Seven Gods have seven spears and seven lights. They hold seven glories.” (Rg Veda 8.28.5)
He is known as the Powerful one, the divine Friend, the Encompassor and the Indestructible One, and he is the celestial fine-winged Solar-eagle. That ONE, the wise give many names, they call it Indestructible, Control [of the Senses], powerful like the Wind [i.e. Prana]’ (Rig Veda.I.164.46)
This is the realisation of the ancient system of Advaita Vedanta or doctrine of non-dualism as in later Hinduism, where there is One Truth (Ekam Sad), that of Brahman or the Supreme, but it assumes many forms – that of the devatas or Gods.
‘The Indestructible One here bring heaven to give us aid, the controller of the senses from the celestial regions and from the atmosphere, the divine powers (shaktis). On holy grass all holy ones take seat and let the immortal deities rejoice in self-affirmation.‘ (Rig.X.70.11)
The Shakti is the divine power of the Goddess that even the Gods have as their spouse, personified. The Shakti pervades the Cosmos however and hence has the power to transform the mundane senses (indriyas), represented by the Devas or Gods, into higher Yogic powers, such as siddhis or the mystic inner powers of Yoga, such as telepathy, levitation and so forth.
The Siddhis are also the shaktis. Once we can control the senses and become Indra, the lord of the senses, then we can attain these higher siddhis or states of the Shaktis and have power or lordship over them. In later Yoga, it is becoming Shiva/Satan.
And now let the powerful one accept the sacred-bowl filled with milk, white, filled with Shukra’ (Rig Veda.IV.27.5)
Here is the transformation of the lower-energy we talked about of the Shukra or semen in the lower-chakras, representing the genital organs and lust, and it’s being transformed into the higher Soma or immortality through the awakening of Kundalini from the base of the spine up to the Crown of the where, where it is transformed into this immortal elixir (Amrita or Ambrosia).
The sacred bowl here is hence filled with Shukra, the Divine Seminal Fluid, which is transformed to Soma in the Crown Chakra, when it is taken up the Sushumna, the middle-current in Yoga representing the subtle channel in the spine, through which one accesses higher powers, and through which the Kundalini Shakti ascends as Udanavayu, the up-moving air or breath, which has a purifying nature as a pierces the chakras and transforms this lower / base seminal fluid into the nectar of immortality in the Crown of the head.