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18 Reasons I Won't Be Getting a Covid Vaccine

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This is incredibly important. I hope it gets made into an announcement.

Because many people don't click links, or perhaps it will be taken down, here it is:

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18 Reasons I Won't Be Getting a Covid Vaccine

Updated: Apr 19

A few friends have asked my thoughts on the covid jab(s) so I thought it was time to write an article on the topic.

All my friends had not heard most of the details I shared, so I figured you might appreciate hearing some of what I told them.

Knowing how contentious this issue is, part of me would rather just write about something else, but I feel like the discussion/news is so one-sided that I should speak up.

As I always strive to do, I promise to do my best to be level-headed and non-hysterical.

I'm not here to pick a fight with anyone, just to walk you through some of what I've read, my lingering questions, and explain why I can't make sense of these covid vaccines.


THREE GROUND RULES FOR DISCUSSION

If you care to engage on this topic with me, excellent.

Here are the rules...

I am more than happy to correspond with you if...

You are respectful and treat me the way you would want to be treated.

You ask genuinely thoughtful questions about what makes sense to you.

You make your points using sound logic and don't hide behind links or the word "science." In other words, make a kind, level-headed argument (links welcome), but don't just post a link and say "read the science." That's intellectually lazy.


If you do respond, and you break any of those rules, your comments will be ignored/deleted.

With that out of the way, let me say this...

I don't know everything, but so far no one has been able to answer the objections below.

So here are the reasons I'm opting out of the covid vaccine.

#1: VACCINE MAKERS ARE IMMUNE FROM LIABILITY

The only industry in the world that bears no liability for injuries or deaths resulting from their products, are vaccine makers.

First established in 1986 with the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act, and reinforced by the PREP Act, vaccine makers cannot be sued, even if they are shown to be negligent.

The covid-vaccine makers are allowed to create a one-size-fits-all product, with no testing on sub-populations (i.e. people with specific health conditions), and yet they are unwilling to accept any responsibility for any adverse events or deaths their products cause.

If a company is not willing to stand behind their product as safe, especially one they rushed to market and skipped animal trials on, I am not willing to take a chance on their product.

No liability. No trust.

Here's why...

#2: THE CHECKERED PAST OF THE VACCINE COMPANIES

The four major companies who are making these covid vaccines are/have either:

Never brought a vaccine to market before covid (Moderna and Johnson & Johnson).

Are serial felons (Pfizer, and Astra Zeneca).

Are both (Johnson & Johnson).


Moderna had been trying to "Modernize our RNA" (thus the company name)--for years, but had never successfully brought ANY product to market--how nice for them to get a major cash infusion from the government to keep trying.

In fact, all major vaccine makers (save Moderna) have paid out tens of billions of dollars in damages for other products they brought to market when they knew those products would cause injuries and death--see Vioxx, Bextra, Celebrex, Thalidomide, and opioids as a few examples.

If drug companies willfully choose to put harmful products in the market, when they can be sued, why would we trust any product where they have NO liability?


In case it hasn't sunk in, let me reiterate...3 of the 4 covid vaccine makers have been sued for products they brought to market even though they knew injuries and deaths would result.

Johnson & Johnson has lost major lawsuits in 1995, 1996, 2001, 2010, 2011, 2016, 2019 (For what it's worth, J&J's vaccine also contains tissues from aborted fetal cells, perhaps a topic for another discussion)

Pfizer has the distinction of the biggest criminal payout in history. They have lost so many lawsuits it's hard to count. You can check out their rap sheet here. Maybe that's why they are demanding that countries where they don't have liability protection put up collateral to cover vaccine-injury lawsuits.

Astra Zeneca has similarly lost so many lawsuits it's hard to count. Here's one. Here's another...you get the point. And in case you missed it, the company had their covid vaccine suspended in at least 18 countries over concerns of blood clots, and they completely botched their meeting with the FDA with numbers from their study that didn't match.

Oh, and apparently J&J (whose vaccine is approved for "Emergency Use" in the US) and Astrazenca (whose vaccine is not approved for "Emergency Use" in the US), had a little mix up in their ingredients...in 15 million doses. Oops.


Let me reiterate this point:

Given the free pass from liability, and the checkered past of these companies, why would we assume that all their vaccines are safe and made completely above board?


Where else in life would we trust someone with that kind of reputation?

To me that makes as much sense as expecting a remorseless, abusive, unfaithful lover to become a different person because a judge said deep down they are a good person.

No. I don't trust them.

No liability. No trust.

Here's another reason why I don't trust them.

#3: THE UGLY HISTORY OF ATTEMPTS TO MAKE CORONAVIRUS VACCINES

There have been many attempts to make viral vaccines in the past that ended in utter failure, which is why we did not have a coronavirus vaccine in 2020.

In the 1960's, scientists attempted to make an RSV (Respiratory Syncytial Virus) vaccine for infants.

In that study, they skipped animal trials because they weren't necessary back then.

In the end, the vaccinated infants got much sicker than the unvaccinated infants when exposed to the virus in nature, with 80% of the vaccinated infants requiring hospitalization, and two of them died.

After 2000, scientists made many attempts to create coronavirus vaccines.

For the past 20 years, all ended in failure because the animals in the clinical trials got very sick and many died, just like the children in the 1960's.

You can read a summary of this history/science here.

Or if you want to read the individual studies you can check out these links:

In 2004 attempted vaccine produced hepatitis in ferrets

In 2005 mice and civets became sick and more susceptible to coronaviruses after being vaccinated

In 2012 the ferrets became sick and died. And in this study mice and ferrets developed lung disease.

In 2016 this study also produce lung disease in mice.


The typical pattern in the studies mentioned above is that the children and the animals produced beautiful antibody responses after being vaccinated.

The manufacturers thought they hit the jackpot.

The problem came when the children and animals were exposed to the wild version of the virus.

When that happened, an unexplained phenomenon called Antibody Dependent Enhancement (ADE) also known as Vaccine Enhanced Disease (VED) occurred where the immune system produced a "cytokine storm" (i.e. overwhelmingly attacked the body), and the children/animals died.

Here's the lingering issue...

The vaccine makers have no data to suggest their rushed vaccines have overcome that problem.


In other words, never before has any attempt to make a coronavirus vaccine been successful, nor has the gene-therapy technology that is mRNA "vaccines" been safely brought to market, but hey, since they had billions of dollars in government funding, I'm sure they figured that out.

Except they don't know if they have...

#4: THE "DATA GAPS" SUBMITTED TO THE FDA BY THE VACCINE MAKERS

When vaccine makers submitted their papers to the FDA for the Emergency Use Authorization (Note: An EUA is not the same as a full FDA approval), among the many "Data Gaps" they reported was that they have nothing in their trials to suggest they overcame that pesky problem of Vaccine Enhanced Disease.

They simply don't know--i.e. they have no idea if the vaccines they've made will also produce the same cytokine storm (and deaths) as previous attempts at such products.

As Joseph Mercola points out...

"Previous attempts to develop an mRNA-based drug using lipid nanoparticles failed and had to be abandoned because when the dose was too low, the drug had no effect, and when dosed too high, the drug became too toxic. An obvious question is: What has changed that now makes this technology safe enough for mass use?"


If that's not alarming enough, here are other gaps in the data--i.e. there is no data to suggest safety or efficacy regarding:

Anyone younger than age 18 or older than age 55

Pregnant or lactating mothers

Auto-immune conditions

Immunocompromised individuals

No data on transmission of covid

No data on preventing mortality from covid

No data on duration of protection from covid


Hard to believe right?

In case you think I'm making this up, or want to see the actual documents sent to the FDA by Pfizer and Moderna for their Emergency Use Authorization, you can check out this, or this respectively. The data gaps can be found starting with page 46 and 48 respectively.

For now let's turn our eyes to the raw data the vaccine makers used to submit for emergency use authorization.

#5: NO ACCESS TO THE RAW DATA FROM THE TRIALS

Would you like to see the raw data that produced the "90% and 95% effective" claims touted in the news?

Me too...

But they won't let us see that data.

As pointed out in the BMJ, something about the Pfizer and Moderna efficacy claims smells really funny.

There were “3,410 total cases of suspected, but unconfirmed covid-19 in the overall study population, 1,594 occurred in the vaccine group vs. 1,816 in the placebo group.”


Wait...what?

Did they fail to do science in their scientific study by not verifying a major variable?

Could they not test those "suspected but unconfirmed" cases to find out if they had covid?

Apparently not.

Why not test all 3,410 participants for the sake of accuracy?

Can we only guess they didn't test because it would mess up their "90-95% effective" claims?

Where's the FDA?

Would it not be prudent for the FDA, to expect (demand) that the vaccine makers test people who have "covid-like symptoms," and release their raw data so outside, third-parties could examine how the manufacturers justified the numbers?

I mean it's only every citizen of the world we're trying to get to take these experimental products...

Why did the FDA not require that? Isn't that the entire purpose of the FDA anyway?

Good question.

Foxes guarding the hen house?

Seems like it.

No liability. No trust.

#6: NO LONG-TERM SAFETY TESTING

Obviously, with products that have only been on the market a few months, we have no long-term safety data.

In other words, we have no idea what this product will do in the body months or years from now--for ANY population.

Given all the risks above (risks that ALL pharmaceutical products have), would it not be prudent to wait to see if the worst-case scenarios have indeed been avoided?

Would it not make sense to want to fill those pesky "data gaps" before we try to give this to every man, woman, and child on the planet?

Well...that would make sense, but to have that data, they need to test it on people, which leads me to my next point...

#7: NO INFORMED CONSENT

What most who are taking the vaccine don't know is that because these products are still in clinical trials, anyone who gets the shot is now part of the clinical trial.

They are part of the experiment.

Those (like me) who do not take it, are part of the control group.

Time will tell how this experiment works out.

But, you may be asking, if the vaccines are causing harm, wouldn't we be seeing that all over the news?

Surely the FDA would step in and pause the distribution?

Well, if the adverse events reporting system was working, maybe things would be different.

#8: UNDER-REPORTING OF ADVERSE REACTIONS AND DEATH

According to a study done by Harvard (at the commission of our own government), less than 1% of all adverse reactions to vaccines are actually submitted to the National Vaccine Adverse Events Reports System (VAERS) - read page 6 at the link above.

While the problems with VAERS have not been fixed (as you can read about in this letter to the CDC), at the time of this writing VAERS reports over 2,200 deaths from the current covid vaccines, as well as close to 60,000 adverse reactions.

"VAERS data released today showed 50,861 reports of adverse events following COVID vaccines, including 2,249 deaths and 7,726 serious injuries between Dec. 14, 2020 and March 26, 2021."


And those numbers don't include (what is currently) 578 cases of Bell's Palsy.

If those numbers are still only 1% of the total adverse reactions (or .8 to 2% of what this study published recently in the JAMA found), you can do the math, but that equates to somewhere around 110,000 to 220,000 deaths from the vaccines to date, and a ridiculous number of adverse reactions.

Bet you didn't see that on the news.

That death number would currently still be lower than the 424,000 deaths from medical errors that happen every year (which you probably also don't hear about), but we are not even six months into the rollout of these vaccines yet.

If you want a deeper dive into the problems with the VAERS reporting system, you can check this out, or check this out.

But then there's my next point, which could be argued makes these covid vaccines seem pointless...

#9: THE VACCINES DO NOT STOP TRANSMISSION OR INFECTION

Wait, what?

Aren't these vaccines supposed to be what we've been waiting for to "go back to normal"?

Nope.

Why do you think we're getting all these conflicting messages about needing to practice social distancing and wear masks AFTER we get a vaccine?

The reason is because these vaccines were never designed to stop transmission OR infection.


If you don't believe me, I refer you again to the papers submitted to the FDA I linked to above.

The primary endpoint (what the vaccines are meant to accomplish) is to lower your symptoms.

Sounds like just about every other drug on the market right?

That's it...lowering your symptoms is the big payoff we've been waiting for.

Does that seem completely pointless to anyone but me?

It can't stop us from spreading the virus.

It can't stop the virus from infecting us once we have it.

To get the vaccine is to accept all the risk of these experimental products and the best it might do is lower symptoms?


Heck, there are plenty of other things I can do to lower my symptoms that don't involve taking what appears to be a really risky product.

Now for the next logical question:

If we're worried about asymptomatic spreaders, would the vaccine not make it more likely that we are creating asymptomatic spread?


If it indeed reduces symptoms, anyone who gets it might not even know they are sick and thus they are more likely to spread the virus, right?

For what it's worth, I've heard many people say the side effects of the vaccine (especially the second dose) are worse than catching covid.

I can't make sense of that either.

Take the risk.

Get no protection.

Suffer through the vaccine side-effects.

Keep wearing your mask and social distancing...

And continue to be able to spread the virus.

What?

It gets worse.

#10: PEOPLE ARE CATCHING COVID AFTER BEING FULLY VACCINATED

Talk about a bummer.

You get vaccinated and you still catch covid.

It's happening in Washington State

It's happening in New York

It's happening in Michigan

It's happening in Hawaii

It's happening in several other states too.

It happened to 80% of 35 nuns who got the vaccine in Kentucky. Two of them died by the way.


In reality, this phenomenon is probably happening everywhere, but those are the ones making the news now.

Given the reasons above (and what's below), maybe this doesn't surprise you, but bummer if you thought the vaccine was a shield to keep you safe.

It's not.

That was never the point.

If 66% of healthcare workers in L.A. are going to delay or skip the vaccine...maybe they aren't wowed by the rushed science either.

Maybe they are watching the shady way deaths and cases are being reported...

#11: THE OVERALL DEATH RATE FROM COVID

According to the CDC's own numbers, covid has a 99.74% survival rate.

Why would I take a risk on a product, that doesn't stop infection or transmission, to help me overcome a cold that has a .26% chance of killing me--actually in my age range is has about a .1% chance of killing me (and .01% chance of killing my kids), but let's not split hairs here.

With a bar (death rate) that low, we will be in lockdown every year...i.e. forever.

But wait, what about the 500,000 plus deaths, that's alarming right?

I'm glad you asked.

#12: THE BLOATED COVID DEATH NUMBERS

Something smells really funny about this one.

Never before in the history of death certificates has our own government changed how deaths are reported.

Why now, are we reporting everyone who dies with covid in their body, as having died of covid, rather than the co-morbidities that actually took their life?

Until covid, all coronaviruses (common colds) were never listed as the primary cause of death when someone died of heart disease, cancer, diabetes, auto-immune conditions, or any other major co-morbidity.

The disease was listed as the cause of death, and a confounding factor like flu or pneumonia was listed on a separate line.

To bloat the number even more, both the W.H.O. and the C.D.C. changed their guidelines such that those who are suspected or probable (but were never confirmed) of having died of covid, are also included in the death numbers.

Seriously?

If we are going to do that then should we not go back and change the numbers of all past cold and flu seasons so we can compare apples to apples when it comes to death rates?

According to the CDCs own numbers, (scroll down to the section "Comorbidities and other conditions") only 6% of the deaths being attributed to covid are instances where covid seems to be the only issue at hand.

In other words, reduce the death numbers you see on the news by 94% and you have what is likely the real numbers of deaths from just covid.

Even if the former CDC director is correct and covid-19 was a lab-enhanced virus (see Reason #14 below), a .26% death rate is still in line with the viral death rate that circles the planet ever year.

Then there's this Fauci guy.

I'd really love to trust him, but besides the fact that he hasn't treated one covid patient...you should probably know...

#13: FAUCI AND SIX OTHERS AT NIAID OWN PATENTS IN THE MODERNA VACCINE

Thanks to the Bayh-Dole Act, government workers are allowed to file patents on any research they do using tax payer funding.

Tony Fauci owns over 1,000 patents (see this video for more details), including patents being used on the Moderna vaccine...which he approved government funding for.

In fact, the NIH (which NIAID is part of) claims joint ownership of Moderna's vaccine.

Does anyone else see this as a MAJOR conflict of interest, or criminal even?

I say criminal because there's also this pesky problem that makes me even more distrustful of Fauci, NIAD, and the NIH in general.

#14: FAUCI IS ON THE HOT SEAT FOR ILLEGAL GAIN-OF-FUNCTION RESEARCH

What is "Gain-of-Function" research?

It's where scientists attempt to make viruses gain functions--i.e. make them more transmissible and deadlier.

Sounds at least a touch unethical, right?

How could that possibly be helpful?

Our government agreed, and banned the practice.

So what did the Fauci-led NIAID do?

They pivoted and outsourced the gain-of-function research (in coronaviruses no less) to China--to the tune of a $600K grant.

You can see more details, including the important timeline of these events in this fantastically well-researched documentary.

Mr. Fauci, you have some explaining to do...and I hope the cameras are recording when you have to defend your actions.

For now, let's turn our attention back to the virus...

#15: THE VIRUS CONTINUES TO MUTATE

Not only does the virus (like all viruses) continue to mutate, but according to world-renowned vaccine developer Geert Vanden Bossche (who you'll meet below if you don't know him) it's mutating about every 10 hours.

How in the world are we going to keep creating vaccines to keep up with that level of mutation?

We're not.


Might that also explain why fully vaccinated people are continuing to catch covid?

Why, given that natural immunity has never ultimately failed humanity, do we suddenly not trust it?

Why, if I ask questions like the above, or post links like what you find above, will my thoughts be deleted from all major social media platforms?

That brings me to the next troubling problem I have with these vaccines.

#16: CENSORSHIP...AND THE COMPLETE ABSENCE OF SCIENTIFIC DEBATE

I can't help but get snarky here, so humor me.

How did you enjoy all those nationally and globally-televised, robust debates put on by public health officials, and broadcast simultaneously on every major news station?

Wasn't it great hearing from the best minds in medicine, virology, epidemiology, economics, and vaccinology from all over the world as they vigorously and respectfully debated things like:

Lockdowns

Mask wearing

Social-distancing

Vaccine efficacy and safety trials

How to screen for susceptibility to vaccine injury

Therapeutics, (i.e. non-vaccine treatment options)


Wasn't it great seeing public health officials (who never treated anyone with covid) have their "science" questioned?

Wasn't it great seeing the FDA panel publicly grill the vaccine makers in prime time as they stood in the hot-seat of tough questions about products of which they have no liability?

Oh, wait...you didn't see those debates?

No, you didn't...because they never happened.

What happened instead was heavy-handed censorship of all but one narrative.

Ironically, Mark Zuckerberg can question vaccine safety, but I can't?

Hypocrite?

When did the first amendment become a suggestion?

It's the FIRST amendment Mark--the one our founders thought was most important.

With so much at stake, why are we fed only one narrative...shouldn't many perspectives be heard and professionally debated?

WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO SCIENCE?

What has happened to the scientific method of always challenging our assumptions?

What happened to lively debate in this country, or at least in Western society?

Why did anyone who disagrees with the WHO, or the CDC get censored so heavily?

Is the science of public health a religion now, or is science supposed to be about debate?

If someone says "the science is settled" that's how I know I'm dealing with someone who is closed minded.

By definition science (especially biological science) is never settled.

If it was, it would be dogma, not science.

OK, before I get too worked up, let me say this...

I WANT TO BE A GOOD CITIZEN

I really do.

If lockdowns work, I want to do my part and stay home.

If masks work, I want to wear them.

If social distancing is effective, I want to comply.

But, if there is evidence they don't (masks for example), I want to hear that evidence too.

If highly-credentialed scientists have different opinions, I want to know what they think.

I want a chance to hear their arguments and make up my own mind.

I don't think I'm the smartest person in the world, but I think I can think.

Maybe I'm weird, but if someone is censored, then I REALLY want to hear what they think.

Don't you?

To all my friends who don't have a problem with censorship, will you have the same opinion when what you think is censored?

Is censorship not the technique of dictators, tyrants, and greedy, power-hungry people?

Is it not a sign that those who are doing the censoring know it's the only way they can win?

What if a man who spent his entire life developing vaccines was willing to put his entire reputation on the line and call on all global leaders to immediately stop the covid vaccines because of problems with the science?


What if he pleaded for an open-scientific debate on a global stage?

Would you want to hear what he has to say?

Would you want to see the debate he's asking for?

#17: THE WORLD'S LEADING VACCINOLOGIST IS SOUNDING THE ALARM...

Here is what may be the biggest reason this covid vaccine doesn't make sense to me.

When someone who is very pro-vaccine, who has spent his entire professional career overseeing the development of vaccines, is shouting from the mountaintops that we have a major problem, I think the man should be heard.

In case you missed it, and in case you care to watch it, here is Geert Vanden Bossche, explaining:

Why the covid vaccine may be putting so much pressure on the virus that we are accelerating it's ability to mutate and become more deadly.

Why the covid vaccines may be creating vaccine-resistant viruses (similar to anti-biotic resistant bacteria).

Why, because of previous problems with Antibody Dependent Enhancement, we may be looking at a mass casualty event in the next few months/years.



If you want to see/read about a second, and longer, interview with Vanden Bossche, where he was asked some tough questions, you can check this out.

If half of what he says comes true, these vaccines could be the worst invention of all time.

If you don't like his science, take it up with him.

I'm just the messenger.

But I can also speak to covid personally.

#18: I ALREADY HAD COVID

I didn't enjoy it.

It was a nasty cold for two days:

Unrelenting butt/low-back aches

Very low energy.

Low-grade fever.


It was weird not being able to smell anything for a couple days.

A week later, coffee still tasted a little "off."

But I survived.

Now it appears (as it always has) that I have beautiful, natural, life-long immunity...

...not something likely to wear off in a few months if I get the vaccine.

In my body, and my household, covid is over.

In fact, now that I've had it, there is evidence the covid vaccine might actually be more dangerous for me.

That is not a risk I'm willing to take.

IN SUMMARY

The above are just my reasons for not wanting the vaccine.

Maybe my reasons make sense to you, maybe they don't.

Whatever does makes sense to you, hopefully we can still be friends.

I for one think there's a lot more that we have in common than what separates us.

We all want to live in a world of freedom.

We all want to do our part to help others and to live well.

We all want the right to express our opinions without fearing we'll be censored or viciously attacked.

We all deserve to have the access to the facts so we can make informed decisions.


Agree or disagree with me; I'll treat you no differently.

You're a human just as worthy of love and respect as anyone else.

For that I salute you, and I truly wish you all the best.

I hope you found this helpful.

If so, feel free to share.

If not, feel free to (kindly) let me know what didn't make sense to you and I'd be happy to hear your thoughts too.

Stay curious and stay humble.

Until next time,

Christian

PS. If you think I studied this topic well, think about how much thought I would put into helping you with your health. Helping people with their health is what I do all day, every day.

PPS. Health can't be injected, but it can be earned.
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Re: 18 Reasons I Won't Be Getting a Covid Vaccine

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Very informative, thank you for sharing.
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Re: 18 Reasons I Won't Be Getting a Covid Vaccine

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This is incredibly important. I hope it gets made into an announcement.

Because many people don't click links, or perhaps it will be taken down, here it is:

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18 Reasons I Won't Be Getting a Covid Vaccine

Updated: Apr 19

A few friends have asked my thoughts on the covid jab(s) so I thought it was time to write an article on the topic.

All my friends had not heard most of the details I shared, so I figured you might appreciate hearing some of what I told them.

Knowing how contentious this issue is, part of me would rather just write about something else, but I feel like the discussion/news is so one-sided that I should speak up.

As I always strive to do, I promise to do my best to be level-headed and non-hysterical.

I'm not here to pick a fight with anyone, just to walk you through some of what I've read, my lingering questions, and explain why I can't make sense of these covid vaccines.


THREE GROUND RULES FOR DISCUSSION

If you care to engage on this topic with me, excellent.

Here are the rules...

I am more than happy to correspond with you if...

You are respectful and treat me the way you would want to be treated.

You ask genuinely thoughtful questions about what makes sense to you.

You make your points using sound logic and don't hide behind links or the word "science." In other words, make a kind, level-headed argument (links welcome), but don't just post a link and say "read the science." That's intellectually lazy.


If you do respond, and you break any of those rules, your comments will be ignored/deleted.

With that out of the way, let me say this...

I don't know everything, but so far no one has been able to answer the objections below.

So here are the reasons I'm opting out of the covid vaccine.

#1: VACCINE MAKERS ARE IMMUNE FROM LIABILITY

The only industry in the world that bears no liability for injuries or deaths resulting from their products, are vaccine makers.

First established in 1986 with the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act, and reinforced by the PREP Act, vaccine makers cannot be sued, even if they are shown to be negligent.

The covid-vaccine makers are allowed to create a one-size-fits-all product, with no testing on sub-populations (i.e. people with specific health conditions), and yet they are unwilling to accept any responsibility for any adverse events or deaths their products cause.

If a company is not willing to stand behind their product as safe, especially one they rushed to market and skipped animal trials on, I am not willing to take a chance on their product.

No liability. No trust.

Here's why...

#2: THE CHECKERED PAST OF THE VACCINE COMPANIES

The four major companies who are making these covid vaccines are/have either:

Never brought a vaccine to market before covid (Moderna and Johnson & Johnson).

Are serial felons (Pfizer, and Astra Zeneca).

Are both (Johnson & Johnson).


Moderna had been trying to "Modernize our RNA" (thus the company name)--for years, but had never successfully brought ANY product to market--how nice for them to get a major cash infusion from the government to keep trying.

In fact, all major vaccine makers (save Moderna) have paid out tens of billions of dollars in damages for other products they brought to market when they knew those products would cause injuries and death--see Vioxx, Bextra, Celebrex, Thalidomide, and opioids as a few examples.

If drug companies willfully choose to put harmful products in the market, when they can be sued, why would we trust any product where they have NO liability?


In case it hasn't sunk in, let me reiterate...3 of the 4 covid vaccine makers have been sued for products they brought to market even though they knew injuries and deaths would result.

Johnson & Johnson has lost major lawsuits in 1995, 1996, 2001, 2010, 2011, 2016, 2019 (For what it's worth, J&J's vaccine also contains tissues from aborted fetal cells, perhaps a topic for another discussion)

Pfizer has the distinction of the biggest criminal payout in history. They have lost so many lawsuits it's hard to count. You can check out their rap sheet here. Maybe that's why they are demanding that countries where they don't have liability protection put up collateral to cover vaccine-injury lawsuits.

Astra Zeneca has similarly lost so many lawsuits it's hard to count. Here's one. Here's another...you get the point. And in case you missed it, the company had their covid vaccine suspended in at least 18 countries over concerns of blood clots, and they completely botched their meeting with the FDA with numbers from their study that didn't match.

Oh, and apparently J&J (whose vaccine is approved for "Emergency Use" in the US) and Astrazenca (whose vaccine is not approved for "Emergency Use" in the US), had a little mix up in their ingredients...in 15 million doses. Oops.


Let me reiterate this point:

Given the free pass from liability, and the checkered past of these companies, why would we assume that all their vaccines are safe and made completely above board?


Where else in life would we trust someone with that kind of reputation?

To me that makes as much sense as expecting a remorseless, abusive, unfaithful lover to become a different person because a judge said deep down they are a good person.

No. I don't trust them.

No liability. No trust.

Here's another reason why I don't trust them.

#3: THE UGLY HISTORY OF ATTEMPTS TO MAKE CORONAVIRUS VACCINES

There have been many attempts to make viral vaccines in the past that ended in utter failure, which is why we did not have a coronavirus vaccine in 2020.

In the 1960's, scientists attempted to make an RSV (Respiratory Syncytial Virus) vaccine for infants.

In that study, they skipped animal trials because they weren't necessary back then.

In the end, the vaccinated infants got much sicker than the unvaccinated infants when exposed to the virus in nature, with 80% of the vaccinated infants requiring hospitalization, and two of them died.

After 2000, scientists made many attempts to create coronavirus vaccines.

For the past 20 years, all ended in failure because the animals in the clinical trials got very sick and many died, just like the children in the 1960's.

You can read a summary of this history/science here.

Or if you want to read the individual studies you can check out these links:

In 2004 attempted vaccine produced hepatitis in ferrets

In 2005 mice and civets became sick and more susceptible to coronaviruses after being vaccinated

In 2012 the ferrets became sick and died. And in this study mice and ferrets developed lung disease.

In 2016 this study also produce lung disease in mice.


The typical pattern in the studies mentioned above is that the children and the animals produced beautiful antibody responses after being vaccinated.

The manufacturers thought they hit the jackpot.

The problem came when the children and animals were exposed to the wild version of the virus.

When that happened, an unexplained phenomenon called Antibody Dependent Enhancement (ADE) also known as Vaccine Enhanced Disease (VED) occurred where the immune system produced a "cytokine storm" (i.e. overwhelmingly attacked the body), and the children/animals died.

Here's the lingering issue...

The vaccine makers have no data to suggest their rushed vaccines have overcome that problem.


In other words, never before has any attempt to make a coronavirus vaccine been successful, nor has the gene-therapy technology that is mRNA "vaccines" been safely brought to market, but hey, since they had billions of dollars in government funding, I'm sure they figured that out.

Except they don't know if they have...

#4: THE "DATA GAPS" SUBMITTED TO THE FDA BY THE VACCINE MAKERS

When vaccine makers submitted their papers to the FDA for the Emergency Use Authorization (Note: An EUA is not the same as a full FDA approval), among the many "Data Gaps" they reported was that they have nothing in their trials to suggest they overcame that pesky problem of Vaccine Enhanced Disease.

They simply don't know--i.e. they have no idea if the vaccines they've made will also produce the same cytokine storm (and deaths) as previous attempts at such products.

As Joseph Mercola points out...

"Previous attempts to develop an mRNA-based drug using lipid nanoparticles failed and had to be abandoned because when the dose was too low, the drug had no effect, and when dosed too high, the drug became too toxic. An obvious question is: What has changed that now makes this technology safe enough for mass use?"


If that's not alarming enough, here are other gaps in the data--i.e. there is no data to suggest safety or efficacy regarding:

Anyone younger than age 18 or older than age 55

Pregnant or lactating mothers

Auto-immune conditions

Immunocompromised individuals

No data on transmission of covid

No data on preventing mortality from covid

No data on duration of protection from covid


Hard to believe right?

In case you think I'm making this up, or want to see the actual documents sent to the FDA by Pfizer and Moderna for their Emergency Use Authorization, you can check out this, or this respectively. The data gaps can be found starting with page 46 and 48 respectively.

For now let's turn our eyes to the raw data the vaccine makers used to submit for emergency use authorization.

#5: NO ACCESS TO THE RAW DATA FROM THE TRIALS

Would you like to see the raw data that produced the "90% and 95% effective" claims touted in the news?

Me too...

But they won't let us see that data.

As pointed out in the BMJ, something about the Pfizer and Moderna efficacy claims smells really funny.

There were “3,410 total cases of suspected, but unconfirmed covid-19 in the overall study population, 1,594 occurred in the vaccine group vs. 1,816 in the placebo group.”


Wait...what?

Did they fail to do science in their scientific study by not verifying a major variable?

Could they not test those "suspected but unconfirmed" cases to find out if they had covid?

Apparently not.

Why not test all 3,410 participants for the sake of accuracy?

Can we only guess they didn't test because it would mess up their "90-95% effective" claims?

Where's the FDA?

Would it not be prudent for the FDA, to expect (demand) that the vaccine makers test people who have "covid-like symptoms," and release their raw data so outside, third-parties could examine how the manufacturers justified the numbers?

I mean it's only every citizen of the world we're trying to get to take these experimental products...

Why did the FDA not require that? Isn't that the entire purpose of the FDA anyway?

Good question.

Foxes guarding the hen house?

Seems like it.

No liability. No trust.

#6: NO LONG-TERM SAFETY TESTING

Obviously, with products that have only been on the market a few months, we have no long-term safety data.

In other words, we have no idea what this product will do in the body months or years from now--for ANY population.

Given all the risks above (risks that ALL pharmaceutical products have), would it not be prudent to wait to see if the worst-case scenarios have indeed been avoided?

Would it not make sense to want to fill those pesky "data gaps" before we try to give this to every man, woman, and child on the planet?

Well...that would make sense, but to have that data, they need to test it on people, which leads me to my next point...

#7: NO INFORMED CONSENT

What most who are taking the vaccine don't know is that because these products are still in clinical trials, anyone who gets the shot is now part of the clinical trial.

They are part of the experiment.

Those (like me) who do not take it, are part of the control group.

Time will tell how this experiment works out.

But, you may be asking, if the vaccines are causing harm, wouldn't we be seeing that all over the news?

Surely the FDA would step in and pause the distribution?

Well, if the adverse events reporting system was working, maybe things would be different.

#8: UNDER-REPORTING OF ADVERSE REACTIONS AND DEATH

According to a study done by Harvard (at the commission of our own government), less than 1% of all adverse reactions to vaccines are actually submitted to the National Vaccine Adverse Events Reports System (VAERS) - read page 6 at the link above.

While the problems with VAERS have not been fixed (as you can read about in this letter to the CDC), at the time of this writing VAERS reports over 2,200 deaths from the current covid vaccines, as well as close to 60,000 adverse reactions.

"VAERS data released today showed 50,861 reports of adverse events following COVID vaccines, including 2,249 deaths and 7,726 serious injuries between Dec. 14, 2020 and March 26, 2021."


And those numbers don't include (what is currently) 578 cases of Bell's Palsy.

If those numbers are still only 1% of the total adverse reactions (or .8 to 2% of what this study published recently in the JAMA found), you can do the math, but that equates to somewhere around 110,000 to 220,000 deaths from the vaccines to date, and a ridiculous number of adverse reactions.

Bet you didn't see that on the news.

That death number would currently still be lower than the 424,000 deaths from medical errors that happen every year (which you probably also don't hear about), but we are not even six months into the rollout of these vaccines yet.

If you want a deeper dive into the problems with the VAERS reporting system, you can check this out, or check this out.

But then there's my next point, which could be argued makes these covid vaccines seem pointless...

#9: THE VACCINES DO NOT STOP TRANSMISSION OR INFECTION

Wait, what?

Aren't these vaccines supposed to be what we've been waiting for to "go back to normal"?

Nope.

Why do you think we're getting all these conflicting messages about needing to practice social distancing and wear masks AFTER we get a vaccine?

The reason is because these vaccines were never designed to stop transmission OR infection.


If you don't believe me, I refer you again to the papers submitted to the FDA I linked to above.

The primary endpoint (what the vaccines are meant to accomplish) is to lower your symptoms.

Sounds like just about every other drug on the market right?

That's it...lowering your symptoms is the big payoff we've been waiting for.

Does that seem completely pointless to anyone but me?

It can't stop us from spreading the virus.

It can't stop the virus from infecting us once we have it.

To get the vaccine is to accept all the risk of these experimental products and the best it might do is lower symptoms?


Heck, there are plenty of other things I can do to lower my symptoms that don't involve taking what appears to be a really risky product.

Now for the next logical question:

If we're worried about asymptomatic spreaders, would the vaccine not make it more likely that we are creating asymptomatic spread?


If it indeed reduces symptoms, anyone who gets it might not even know they are sick and thus they are more likely to spread the virus, right?

For what it's worth, I've heard many people say the side effects of the vaccine (especially the second dose) are worse than catching covid.

I can't make sense of that either.

Take the risk.

Get no protection.

Suffer through the vaccine side-effects.

Keep wearing your mask and social distancing...

And continue to be able to spread the virus.

What?

It gets worse.

#10: PEOPLE ARE CATCHING COVID AFTER BEING FULLY VACCINATED

Talk about a bummer.

You get vaccinated and you still catch covid.

It's happening in Washington State

It's happening in New York

It's happening in Michigan

It's happening in Hawaii

It's happening in several other states too.

It happened to 80% of 35 nuns who got the vaccine in Kentucky. Two of them died by the way.


In reality, this phenomenon is probably happening everywhere, but those are the ones making the news now.

Given the reasons above (and what's below), maybe this doesn't surprise you, but bummer if you thought the vaccine was a shield to keep you safe.

It's not.

That was never the point.

If 66% of healthcare workers in L.A. are going to delay or skip the vaccine...maybe they aren't wowed by the rushed science either.

Maybe they are watching the shady way deaths and cases are being reported...

#11: THE OVERALL DEATH RATE FROM COVID

According to the CDC's own numbers, covid has a 99.74% survival rate.

Why would I take a risk on a product, that doesn't stop infection or transmission, to help me overcome a cold that has a .26% chance of killing me--actually in my age range is has about a .1% chance of killing me (and .01% chance of killing my kids), but let's not split hairs here.

With a bar (death rate) that low, we will be in lockdown every year...i.e. forever.

But wait, what about the 500,000 plus deaths, that's alarming right?

I'm glad you asked.

#12: THE BLOATED COVID DEATH NUMBERS

Something smells really funny about this one.

Never before in the history of death certificates has our own government changed how deaths are reported.

Why now, are we reporting everyone who dies with covid in their body, as having died of covid, rather than the co-morbidities that actually took their life?

Until covid, all coronaviruses (common colds) were never listed as the primary cause of death when someone died of heart disease, cancer, diabetes, auto-immune conditions, or any other major co-morbidity.

The disease was listed as the cause of death, and a confounding factor like flu or pneumonia was listed on a separate line.

To bloat the number even more, both the W.H.O. and the C.D.C. changed their guidelines such that those who are suspected or probable (but were never confirmed) of having died of covid, are also included in the death numbers.

Seriously?

If we are going to do that then should we not go back and change the numbers of all past cold and flu seasons so we can compare apples to apples when it comes to death rates?

According to the CDCs own numbers, (scroll down to the section "Comorbidities and other conditions") only 6% of the deaths being attributed to covid are instances where covid seems to be the only issue at hand.

In other words, reduce the death numbers you see on the news by 94% and you have what is likely the real numbers of deaths from just covid.

Even if the former CDC director is correct and covid-19 was a lab-enhanced virus (see Reason #14 below), a .26% death rate is still in line with the viral death rate that circles the planet ever year.

Then there's this Fauci guy.

I'd really love to trust him, but besides the fact that he hasn't treated one covid patient...you should probably know...

#13: FAUCI AND SIX OTHERS AT NIAID OWN PATENTS IN THE MODERNA VACCINE

Thanks to the Bayh-Dole Act, government workers are allowed to file patents on any research they do using tax payer funding.

Tony Fauci owns over 1,000 patents (see this video for more details), including patents being used on the Moderna vaccine...which he approved government funding for.

In fact, the NIH (which NIAID is part of) claims joint ownership of Moderna's vaccine.

Does anyone else see this as a MAJOR conflict of interest, or criminal even?

I say criminal because there's also this pesky problem that makes me even more distrustful of Fauci, NIAD, and the NIH in general.

#14: FAUCI IS ON THE HOT SEAT FOR ILLEGAL GAIN-OF-FUNCTION RESEARCH

What is "Gain-of-Function" research?

It's where scientists attempt to make viruses gain functions--i.e. make them more transmissible and deadlier.

Sounds at least a touch unethical, right?

How could that possibly be helpful?

Our government agreed, and banned the practice.

So what did the Fauci-led NIAID do?

They pivoted and outsourced the gain-of-function research (in coronaviruses no less) to China--to the tune of a $600K grant.

You can see more details, including the important timeline of these events in this fantastically well-researched documentary.

Mr. Fauci, you have some explaining to do...and I hope the cameras are recording when you have to defend your actions.

For now, let's turn our attention back to the virus...

#15: THE VIRUS CONTINUES TO MUTATE

Not only does the virus (like all viruses) continue to mutate, but according to world-renowned vaccine developer Geert Vanden Bossche (who you'll meet below if you don't know him) it's mutating about every 10 hours.

How in the world are we going to keep creating vaccines to keep up with that level of mutation?

We're not.


Might that also explain why fully vaccinated people are continuing to catch covid?

Why, given that natural immunity has never ultimately failed humanity, do we suddenly not trust it?

Why, if I ask questions like the above, or post links like what you find above, will my thoughts be deleted from all major social media platforms?

That brings me to the next troubling problem I have with these vaccines.

#16: CENSORSHIP...AND THE COMPLETE ABSENCE OF SCIENTIFIC DEBATE

I can't help but get snarky here, so humor me.

How did you enjoy all those nationally and globally-televised, robust debates put on by public health officials, and broadcast simultaneously on every major news station?

Wasn't it great hearing from the best minds in medicine, virology, epidemiology, economics, and vaccinology from all over the world as they vigorously and respectfully debated things like:

Lockdowns

Mask wearing

Social-distancing

Vaccine efficacy and safety trials

How to screen for susceptibility to vaccine injury

Therapeutics, (i.e. non-vaccine treatment options)


Wasn't it great seeing public health officials (who never treated anyone with covid) have their "science" questioned?

Wasn't it great seeing the FDA panel publicly grill the vaccine makers in prime time as they stood in the hot-seat of tough questions about products of which they have no liability?

Oh, wait...you didn't see those debates?

No, you didn't...because they never happened.

What happened instead was heavy-handed censorship of all but one narrative.

Ironically, Mark Zuckerberg can question vaccine safety, but I can't?

Hypocrite?

When did the first amendment become a suggestion?

It's the FIRST amendment Mark--the one our founders thought was most important.

With so much at stake, why are we fed only one narrative...shouldn't many perspectives be heard and professionally debated?

WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO SCIENCE?

What has happened to the scientific method of always challenging our assumptions?

What happened to lively debate in this country, or at least in Western society?

Why did anyone who disagrees with the WHO, or the CDC get censored so heavily?

Is the science of public health a religion now, or is science supposed to be about debate?

If someone says "the science is settled" that's how I know I'm dealing with someone who is closed minded.

By definition science (especially biological science) is never settled.

If it was, it would be dogma, not science.

OK, before I get too worked up, let me say this...

I WANT TO BE A GOOD CITIZEN

I really do.

If lockdowns work, I want to do my part and stay home.

If masks work, I want to wear them.

If social distancing is effective, I want to comply.

But, if there is evidence they don't (masks for example), I want to hear that evidence too.

If highly-credentialed scientists have different opinions, I want to know what they think.

I want a chance to hear their arguments and make up my own mind.

I don't think I'm the smartest person in the world, but I think I can think.

Maybe I'm weird, but if someone is censored, then I REALLY want to hear what they think.

Don't you?

To all my friends who don't have a problem with censorship, will you have the same opinion when what you think is censored?

Is censorship not the technique of dictators, tyrants, and greedy, power-hungry people?

Is it not a sign that those who are doing the censoring know it's the only way they can win?

What if a man who spent his entire life developing vaccines was willing to put his entire reputation on the line and call on all global leaders to immediately stop the covid vaccines because of problems with the science?


What if he pleaded for an open-scientific debate on a global stage?

Would you want to hear what he has to say?

Would you want to see the debate he's asking for?

#17: THE WORLD'S LEADING VACCINOLOGIST IS SOUNDING THE ALARM...

Here is what may be the biggest reason this covid vaccine doesn't make sense to me.

When someone who is very pro-vaccine, who has spent his entire professional career overseeing the development of vaccines, is shouting from the mountaintops that we have a major problem, I think the man should be heard.

In case you missed it, and in case you care to watch it, here is Geert Vanden Bossche, explaining:

Why the covid vaccine may be putting so much pressure on the virus that we are accelerating it's ability to mutate and become more deadly.

Why the covid vaccines may be creating vaccine-resistant viruses (similar to anti-biotic resistant bacteria).

Why, because of previous problems with Antibody Dependent Enhancement, we may be looking at a mass casualty event in the next few months/years.



If you want to see/read about a second, and longer, interview with Vanden Bossche, where he was asked some tough questions, you can check this out.

If half of what he says comes true, these vaccines could be the worst invention of all time.

If you don't like his science, take it up with him.

I'm just the messenger.

But I can also speak to covid personally.

#18: I ALREADY HAD COVID

I didn't enjoy it.

It was a nasty cold for two days:

Unrelenting butt/low-back aches

Very low energy.

Low-grade fever.


It was weird not being able to smell anything for a couple days.

A week later, coffee still tasted a little "off."

But I survived.

Now it appears (as it always has) that I have beautiful, natural, life-long immunity...

...not something likely to wear off in a few months if I get the vaccine.

In my body, and my household, covid is over.

In fact, now that I've had it, there is evidence the covid vaccine might actually be more dangerous for me.

That is not a risk I'm willing to take.

IN SUMMARY

The above are just my reasons for not wanting the vaccine.

Maybe my reasons make sense to you, maybe they don't.

Whatever does makes sense to you, hopefully we can still be friends.

I for one think there's a lot more that we have in common than what separates us.

We all want to live in a world of freedom.

We all want to do our part to help others and to live well.

We all want the right to express our opinions without fearing we'll be censored or viciously attacked.

We all deserve to have the access to the facts so we can make informed decisions.


Agree or disagree with me; I'll treat you no differently.

You're a human just as worthy of love and respect as anyone else.

For that I salute you, and I truly wish you all the best.

I hope you found this helpful.

If so, feel free to share.

If not, feel free to (kindly) let me know what didn't make sense to you and I'd be happy to hear your thoughts too.

Stay curious and stay humble.

Until next time,

Christian

PS. If you think I studied this topic well, think about how much thought I would put into helping you with your health. Helping people with their health is what I do all day, every day.

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Lydia wrote:Because many people don't click links, or perhaps it will be taken down, here it is:
Thanks Lydia, I didn't think about that.
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That is a very informative and well written article. Thanks for posting. It's just what I need to help persuade my family in not taking the vaccine. Once again thank you very much. It's much appreciated!
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Bump, as it only has a few hundred views so far.
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We all need to share this on bittute thats what i am going to do now.
Thank you Lydia for this really good post that will bring people to us and wake them up aswel. 🙂
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An additional reason:

No mention of vitamin intake. Not only do these vitamins prevent or help fight covid, but YOU NEED VITAMINS TO MAKE THE VACCINE WORK. The vitamins are a component of the immune system, and they get used up in the immune response. This is why supplementing them helps because one develops conditional deficiencies of these vitamins when the immune activity is high.

So it doesn't matter whether your immune system is "trained" appropriately or not, it still needs the building blocks from which to mount a response. They may as well say one doesn't have to eat anything, either.

Not only that but these vitamins play a role in fighting all illnesses, so how could it possibly be more efficient to create and distribute 7 trillion vaccines (just for 1 covid strain), as opposed to the vitamins. However, they did not even mention the benefits of the vitamins, let alone attempt to distribute them.

Of course, we know they are not so stupid, nor so lazy, or forgetful that they did not mention it. Any real doctor would first look at the simple building blocks of health before trying some ultra-complicated and expensive solution.
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That's brilliantly written.
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This entire "trust us, we ran the numbers, no you can't see them or test them yourselves" reminds me a LOT of the old cigarette manufacturers.."oh it's safe, ignore the health problems, ignore the side effects, they're nothing, buy our product"...

I just hope, for those who realize it (too late) and wake up, they're might be a way of helping them..or them helping themselves and fixing themselves up after this shit. not everyone who isn't yet awake is lost, but...

we just need someone to get all this info out on the air. people see it, they'll wake up
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I dont know bout others but im getting vaccinated just on papers Once just this one time im greatful my country is cuurupt and i can get it on my id linked and registerd as vaccinated with some money thown on docs face and get away from this madness i hope my brothers and sisters find their way out in other countries. :evil:

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Because I really do not want to go back to work.
I do contract work and have been told that no Jab no work for me. People will tell me they cannot do that but that is exactly what they are doing.
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Very informative, thanks for sharing.
IDK wht is covid since my wife got covid but I never got any symptom since last 2 month.
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I have taken the first pfizer vaccine myself 2 weeks ago, nothing happend on all levels (physicaly/mentaly/spiritualy) i still feel my chakras and aura and i am still advancing "at least until now", i am not pro-vaccine at all, but the saudi govrenment made it forcable (in a soft civilized manner not with militiry control like china as example), but what i want to say is that the vaccine in itself may be a " jewish quick fix" for the covid disaster and deaths that happend in 2020, i don't beliave the vaccine in itself is harmful unless some of the vaccines reported like astra zinica as example, but here in saudi arabia the govrenment banned astra zinica compeletly.

"the communist kikes who rule china created covid in labs then they created the vaccine to fix things up and cover up thier crime, this doesn't nessery mean the vaccine is poison in itself, even jews take it in israel as far as i know, so if you have been forced legaly to take it someday i recomended you to take pfizer, even if it countain long term secret negative effects, at least you chose the least damage between all of them"



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One Wire Phenomenon wrote:
Sun Jun 13, 2021 4:10 pm
We all need to share this on bittute thats what i am going to do now.
Thank you Lydia for this really good post that will bring people to us and wake them up aswel. 🙂
I didn't make the post, all credit to Schwarze Sonne for finding and linking this :)
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Schwarze Sonne wrote:
Thu Jun 10, 2021 8:31 am
Thank you Schwarze.
This is a very good research.
Please post it in Italian in the Italian section of the forum.
It could be useful for many SS people in this situation.
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Re: 18 Reasons I Won't Be Getting a Covid Vaccine

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Lydia wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:34 am
One Wire Phenomenon wrote:
Sun Jun 13, 2021 4:10 pm
We all need to share this on bittute thats what i am going to do now.
Thank you Lydia for this really good post that will bring people to us and wake them up aswel. 🙂
I didn't make the post, all credit to Schwarze Sonne for finding and linking this :)
:lol: i saw your name above the post

Well thanks Sonne
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Re: 18 Reasons I Won't Be Getting a Covid Vaccine

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This is also worth considering for those who have fallen for the Covid lie!
It doesn't matter what the vaccines are called, they are all biological viruses!
All kill people!
And the Covid virus is a serious blinder! No one should forget that the Jews are masters of manipulation, and have studied the human mind for thousands of years!
It is very important to let people know the truth about the current situation!
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Re: 18 Reasons I Won't Be Getting a Covid Vaccine

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Satanfire666 wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:48 am
I have taken the first pfizer vaccine myself 2 weeks ago, nothing happend on all levels (physicaly/mentaly/spiritualy) i still feel my chakras and aura and i am still advancing "at least until now", i am not pro-vaccine at all, but the saudi govrenment made it forcable (in a soft civilized manner not with militiry control like china as example), but what i want to say is that the vaccine in itself may be a " jewish quick fix" for the covid disaster and deaths that happend in 2020, i don't beliave the vaccine in itself is harmful unless some of the vaccines reported like astra zinica as example, but here in saudi arabia the govrenment banned astra zinica compeletly.

"the communist kikes who rule china created covid in labs then they created the vaccine to fix things up and cover up thier crime, this doesn't nessery mean the vaccine is poison in itself, even jews take it in israel as far as i know, so if you have been forced legaly to take it someday i recomended you to take pfizer, even if it countain long term secret negative effects, at least you chose the least damage between all of them"



Sometimes in life you have to make Sacrifices in order to survive, especially when you face a malignant and tricky enemies like "kikes", keep meditating and eat healthy and do your satanic rituals and always meditate on satan's sigil.


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That's the one the Jews took mostly everywhere. I would be inclined to say maybe your right about this being the least damaging one. But if at all possible people should avoid this altogether.
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I will never take the vaccine! I would rather die. Hail Satan!
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I had a lady come into my store and start talking about how her 2 year old died from it..
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Re: 18 Reasons I Won't Be Getting a Covid Vaccine

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Satanfire666 wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:48 am
I have taken the first pfizer vaccine myself 2 weeks ago, nothing happend on all levels (physicaly/mentaly/spiritualy) i still feel my chakras and aura and i am still advancing "at least until now", i am not pro-vaccine at all, but the saudi govrenment made it forcable (in a soft civilized manner not with militiry control like china as example), but what i want to say is that the vaccine in itself may be a " jewish quick fix" for the covid disaster and deaths that happend in 2020, i don't beliave the vaccine in itself is harmful unless some of the vaccines reported like astra zinica as example, but here in saudi arabia the govrenment banned astra zinica compeletly.

"the communist kikes who rule china created covid in labs then they created the vaccine to fix things up and cover up thier crime, this doesn't nessery mean the vaccine is poison in itself, even jews take it in israel as far as i know, so if you have been forced legaly to take it someday i recomended you to take pfizer, even if it countain long term secret negative effects, at least you chose the least damage between all of them"



Sometimes in life you have to make Sacrifices in order to survive, especially when you face a malignant and tricky enemies like "kikes", keep meditating and eat healthy and do your satanic rituals and always meditate on satan's sigil.


Hail satan.
I also took the first pfizer vaccine, but it caused me a headache and meditation has become more difficult and tiring. Don't take the second dose of this shit. We have been warned by the high priests. My parents obligated me to take it (i am a minor), but i will absolutely avoid the second dose and i will try to show them the information of this article.
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Very well written article by the writer.

Thank you for this post, Schwarze Sonne.
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Thanks.

I will never take the vaccine. Rather die.
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Re: 18 Reasons I Won't Be Getting a Covid Vaccine

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I really don't understand people who take these vaccines, even to the point of destroying themselves, rotting their blood, their brains etc...

What do you have to lose? A job? But you have been doing nothing but that for decades.

What are you afraid of? To say no? Of dying?

I'd rather kill myself than take these vaccines.

And the Gods... no comment.
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Re: 18 Reasons I Won't Be Getting a Covid Vaccine

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Schwarze Sonne wrote:
Thu Jun 10, 2021 8:31 am
You are respectful and treat me the way you would want to be treated.

You ask genuinely thoughtful questions about what makes sense to you.

You make your points using sound logic and don't hide behind links or the word "science." In other words, make a kind, level-headed argument (links welcome), but don't just post a link and say "read the science." That's intellectually lazy.
I hope this comment doesn't sound rude or offensive to anyone (if it does to someone, I guess the chances are they haven't really been paying attention to what happened the last year and a half.. let alone the past few decades at least).

I don't know why or how someone could or should disrespect you for making this post. From what I've seen, you've got excellent points and obviously did your research, so I would think anyone that has something to say against your thoughts obviously needs to take another look around and actually see what's been going on for longer than just the last couple of years.

I've seen people denying scientific facts (the facts that the media does NOT want leaked) by showing me absurd hypothesis and their idea of "proof" in corrupted doctors' interviews and books. These people are clearly not wanting to see the truth. They just want their illusion that the govt "cares about them and doesn't lie" to continue for as long as possible, because they couldn't bear to admit the opposite.

In this Forum we (and I'm going to assume "we ALL") understand these "vaccines" (genetic therapy aiming to undo our being Human and not only that) are the problem and, to me, any real Spiritual Satanist would rather be slaughtered and tortured than let the jewish invaders shoot their poison in his/her body.

But that's me.
I heard of people (not Satanists, even people I knew) who were so scared of losing their jobs that they got whatever they were forced to accept injected in them and then they died. They lost their life for fear of losing their job... this is the foolishness of it all. People are ignoring the dead because they prefer to think it's all fake and take the jab for fear of losing a job, and then they die (or go through something extremely severe that seems not to stop but only gets worse over time, according to current reported cases).

In this Forum, that I cherish incredibly much and consider my Family, the last time that I have seen some confusion about so called vaccines was around April 2020 when HPS Shannon spoke against them (the way I too always have) and she was belittled for thinking so and speaking her mind.

Soon after that, the 'plandemic" became more and more clear even to those that vouched for vaccines, and HPS Shannon's thoughts were suddenly the truth everyone else knew, as it has been proven over and over and over the whole coronacircus has been pulled only to get this shit as mandatory and as forced as possible, obviously having in it something that the jews WANT in the body of Gentiles.

I would rather taking a bullet than a "vaccine" and there is no way I'll ever get it. I lost a job that I loved simply because I spoke publicly against using face masks one week before they would no longer be mandatory in the workplace... I'm wouldn't take a "vaccine" if I had a gun to my head.

I hope there's no need to wish that more of you in our Family will do the same, no matter what happens.

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Re: 18 Reasons I Won't Be Getting a Covid Vaccine

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Exceptional perspectives and a well written article. This is very important to be debated, sadly, the mainstream media rarely cover these things because of the jews. I've seen some videos of Stéphane Bancel promoting mRNA-vaccine, the final stages of his/their development. All that was left was to test it on humans. Not long after humanity found themselves in a Pandemic in full panic. What was the solution? The Covid-19 mRNA vaccine totally approved by Emergency Use Autorization, meaning no deaths will be held accountable by the companies providing them. They are a billion market industry after all. Previous products by Moderna never got approved, ever. I remember that some of the products were classified as unethical. It should raise questions and further investigation should take place. However, I can see other things at play here also.

Now, in my studies at university, I have learned that mRNA-vaccines don't really modify or alters our DNA. It only stimulates the ribosomes in the cells to produce proteins. The vaccine/mRNA would need a specialized enzyme to penetrate the nucleus for it to alter the DNA, which it doesn't. Though they do study on enzymes as well as a note. Moderna is short for Modified RNA. So the questions are, how and in what extent is the RNA used in the vaccines modified into? Is the RNA-sequence they have used on people altered? If so, into what? If no, who fact-controls that? The thing is, no one really knows how this affects the body; the protein-expression; what is the side effects in the long run (+ a few years from now), or if it has any long-term effect at all such as our progeny, or people developing adverse side effects such as what happened with the flue vaccine where people developed narcolepsy. Those Covid-19 vaccinated are indeed the labrats in one of histories biggest experiment.

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Re: 18 Reasons I Won't Be Getting a Covid Vaccine

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Satan_is_our_Father666 wrote:I don't know why or how someone could or should disrespect you for making this post. From what I've seen, you've got excellent points and obviously did your research, so I would think anyone that has something to say against your thoughts obviously needs to take another look around and actually see what's been going on for longer than just the last couple of years.
I didn't write the article, only posted it :).
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Re: 18 Reasons I Won't Be Getting a Covid Vaccine

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Satan_is_our_Father666 wrote:
Tue Jun 15, 2021 1:24 pm
Schwarze Sonne wrote:
Thu Jun 10, 2021 8:31 am
You are respectful and treat me the way you would want to be treated.

You ask genuinely thoughtful questions about what makes sense to you.

You make your points using sound logic and don't hide behind links or the word "science." In other words, make a kind, level-headed argument (links welcome), but don't just post a link and say "read the science." That's intellectually lazy.
I hope this comment doesn't sound rude or offensive to anyone (if it does to someone, I guess the chances are they haven't really been paying attention to what happened the last year and a half.. let alone the past few decades at least).

I don't know why or how someone could or should disrespect you for making this post. From what I've seen, you've got excellent points and obviously did your research, so I would think anyone that has something to say against your thoughts obviously needs to take another look around and actually see what's been going on for longer than just the last couple of years.

I've seen people denying scientific facts (the facts that the media does NOT want leaked) by showing me absurd hypothesis and their idea of "proof" in corrupted doctors' interviews and books. These people are clearly not wanting to see the truth. They just want their illusion that the govt "cares about them and doesn't lie" to continue for as long as possible, because they couldn't bear to admit the opposite.

In this Forum we (and I'm going to assume "we ALL") understand these "vaccines" (genetic therapy aiming to undo our being Human and not only that) are the problem and, to me, any real Spiritual Satanist would rather be slaughtered and tortured than let the jewish invaders shoot their poison in his/her body.

But that's me.
I heard of people (not Satanists, even people I knew) who were so scared of losing their jobs that they got whatever they were forced to accept injected in them and then they died. They lost their life for fear of losing their job... this is the foolishness of it all. People are ignoring the dead because they prefer to think it's all fake and take the jab for fear of losing a job, and then they die (or go through something extremely severe that seems not to stop but only gets worse over time, according to current reported cases).

In this Forum, that I cherish incredibly much and consider my Family, the last time that I have seen some confusion about so called vaccines was around April 2020 when HPS Shannon spoke against them (the way I too always have) and she was belittled for thinking so and speaking her mind.

Soon after that, the 'plandemic" became more and more clear even to those that vouched for vaccines, and HPS Shannon's thoughts were suddenly the truth everyone else knew, as it has been proven over and over and over the whole coronacircus has been pulled only to get this shit as mandatory and as forced as possible, obviously having in it something that the jews WANT in the body of Gentiles.

I would rather taking a bullet than a "vaccine" and there is no way I'll ever get it. I lost a job that I loved simply because I spoke publicly against using face masks one week before they would no longer be mandatory in the workplace... I'm wouldn't take a "vaccine" if I had a gun to my head.

I hope there's no need to wish that more of you in our Family will do the same, no matter what happens.

HAIL SATAN FOREVER! HAIL LERAJE (who keeps affectionately guiding me despite my clumsiness)!
Vaccines may be ineffective and even dangerous, mainly because of jews but they are better than nothing. If doctors and scientists can't currently do much, people who don't specialize in these fields can do even less.

I am not offending HPS Shannon or anyone else with what I am saying but there is a need for expertise, knowledge, research and professionalism in this field as well as in other things. In things we are not professionals but even if we were and therefore without being able to practice professionally, we can only help with information and never replace the direct relationship with the professional.

There are no simple solutions to complex problems, those who claim otherwise are lying.

For the moment I do not trust any covid vaccine because they do not show much about their composition.
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Re: 18 Reasons I Won't Be Getting a Covid Vaccine

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Thank you for your hard work, you have given me new points to use in convincing people to wake up to it. I've been dreading the day they try to force me or my children to get it to stay in school or work and this has given me valuable info. Very appreciated.
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Re: 18 Reasons I Won't Be Getting a Covid Vaccine

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Havok wrote:
Tue Jun 15, 2021 1:15 pm
I really don't understand people who take these vaccines, even to the point of destroying themselves, rotting their blood, their brains etc...

What do you have to lose? A job? But you have been doing nothing but that for decades.

What are you afraid of? To say no? Of dying?

I'd rather kill myself than take these vaccines.

And the Gods... no comment.
People don't realise the danger. They don't know who is behind vaccines and what their real purpose is.

A few days ago I was talking to some colleagues, one of them said she didn't want to get the vaccine but eventually she did, because she saw that her rights were starting to be restricted. Another girl said she got the vaccine so she could go to the cinema...

From another person I heard saying the same stupid things I heard on the news "The vaccine will bring us back to normal. Vaccine means normality. Don't you want to get vaccinated? Then you can just stay home. Are you complaining about not being able to attend events? It's your fault for not getting vaccinated..... It was pretty obvious that there would be a difference between vaccinated and unvaccinated people."

And the irony is that there are health professionals, both doctors and nurses, who are against the vaccine and some of them do not find it at all normal that it has gone so far as to force the population to be vaccinated, to restrict their rights. Even at a graduation ceremony of a medical school I heard that they want to let in only vaccinated people and there are students (few in number) who did not want to get their vaccine. And they believe that what is actually happening is manipulation.
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Re: 18 Reasons I Won't Be Getting a Covid Vaccine

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Even the best-known vaccines can have nasty effects on people, such as the flu vaccine. I read from a neurology book that it may be responsible, among other causes (respiratory or digestive infections; even tetanus, diphtheria and polio vaccines), for Guillain-Barré syndrome (but there is still not enough evidence for this).

There was also a study done a few years ago on a group of children in Finland and it was shown that the Pandemrix vaccine may be responsible for narcolepsy.
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Satan_is_our_Father666 wrote:
Tue Jun 15, 2021 1:24 pm
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The way HPS Shannon wrote her opinion could have gotten the forums shut down for legal reasons the jews would use. Remember, the jews will use any method they have available to shut us down. HPS Maxine even said she would never take vaccines and that in her opinion they were harmful, but it needs to be worded a certain way with a disclaimer so as to avoid getting us shut down. THAT was the issue, not Shannon's opinion. It was the way she stated it. Shannon was not belittled for writing her article, she was even asked to re-post it but with a disclaimer on the top.
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The way its set up here you could pay someone to go get the vaccine for you, now there were no checks etc it was/is a sham i admit i went for the first. I know how to circumvent the 2nd and these new all of a sudden "boosters"


You all did warn me.

End of the day we can all get access to fake passes if need be.

Im okay can even write the 2nd jab in as complete on my card even though i didnt go.


Plenty of loopholes, also plenty of holes the way they go about it..they are stopping you at the supermarket asking if you are "jabbed" then offer you one.

Its terrible also the money these people are making.(chosen ones)

The Op is right the fastest one in history but i bet it was already to go in this scamdemic.

My wife and kid arent getting theirs.

I do appreciate alot of you guys helping me obviously there were a few attacks to and fro but in the past.

happy and healthy guys is the one.

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Lydia wrote:
Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:09 pm
The way HPS Shannon wrote her opinion could have gotten the forums shut down for legal reasons the jews would use. Remember, the jews will use any method they have available to shut us down. HPS Maxine even said she would never take vaccines and that in her opinion they were harmful, but it needs to be worded a certain way with a disclaimer so as to avoid getting us shut down. THAT was the issue, not Shannon's opinion. It was the way she stated it. Shannon was not belittled for writing her article, she was even asked to re-post it but with a disclaimer on the top.
I remember that now.. it was about the time everyone started to reply to any post with "In my opinion,..." before they said anything.. :lol: wasn't it? It's sounding more and more like we may need a lawyer present just to say anything, disclaimers and stuff.. guess I hate not to be direct. But I do see the point and how we need to thread lightly (for the time being).

There will be the day when it will eventually be illegal for jews to question anything Gentiles do (things like "up to 5 years incarceration" as they apparently have it in Germany if anyone questions the holohoax' numbers).

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NishaWillow wrote:
Wed Jun 16, 2021 3:36 pm
Havok wrote:
Tue Jun 15, 2021 1:15 pm
I really don't understand people who take these vaccines, even to the point of destroying themselves, rotting their blood, their brains etc...

What do you have to lose? A job? But you have been doing nothing but that for decades.

What are you afraid of? To say no? Of dying?

I'd rather kill myself than take these vaccines.

And the Gods... no comment.
People don't realise the danger. They don't know who is behind vaccines and what their real purpose is.

A few days ago I was talking to some colleagues, one of them said she didn't want to get the vaccine but eventually she did, because she saw that her rights were starting to be restricted. Another girl said she got the vaccine so she could go to the cinema...

From another person I heard saying the same stupid things I heard on the news "The vaccine will bring us back to normal. Vaccine means normality. Don't you want to get vaccinated? Then you can just stay home. Are you complaining about not being able to attend events? It's your fault for not getting vaccinated..... It was pretty obvious that there would be a difference between vaccinated and unvaccinated people."

And the irony is that there are health professionals, both doctors and nurses, who are against the vaccine and some of them do not find it at all normal that it has gone so far as to force the population to be vaccinated, to restrict their rights. Even at a graduation ceremony of a medical school I heard that they want to let in only vaccinated people and there are students (few in number) who did not want to get their vaccine. And they believe that what is actually happening is manipulation.
Personally, I'm at a stage where I'm ready to be out there naked with nothing if the Jewish dystopia progresses further and further.

People forget about the law of consent (which they try to hide as much as possible, like many other laws). And that's the problem.

The material needs, and the comfortable situation, is something that I have already transcended for a while. I have always been satisfied with the little without looking for the very high. And that gives me a huge advantage in this particular situation.

I advise you to find out how to become pranic. It can be a huge protection and relief in the sense that it's something they can't totally block, let alone take over. Especially since it will not impact your spiritual progress. But it's still an emergency solution.
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Schwarze Sonne ... thanks for sharing this important information. The arguments in this post seem to fill the lakes and solve doubts that a lot of people, including me, have been dealing with for a while.

Following FATHER means freedom, stop being a sheep, we all know that, but that freedom must come with a deep analysis on how the world, society and global phenomena evolve and might affect our vital energy so we can make decisions on the path we want to follow. This post absolutely makes sense to me as it's inspired on hard data, that's priceless.

From now on I can see society divided into two main groups: those who decided to be part of a laboratory experiment with no objection and those who are now the control group (that was my favorite part in the post). Having said that, I am glad not being a sheep anymore and instead decide for myself what is best for me, the post you shared just reasserted what I already knew, THANK YOU!

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