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GoldenxChild1

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I was reading "Lucifer And the Philosophy Behind Satan/Lucifer" on Exposing Kabbalah. I understand that the "Akasha" or "Void", what have you, is pure potentiality; however, if a "conscious entity" is needed to express the Abyss then how does the Universe create unto itself? IE., Space Phenomenon, Life that hasn't been touched by the Gods, Formation and Design, etc.
 
GoldenxChild1 said:
I was reading "Lucifer And the Philosophy Behind Satan/Lucifer" on Exposing Kabbalah. I understand that the "Akasha" or "Void", what have you, is pure potentiality; however, if a "conscious entity" is needed to express the Abyss then how does the Universe create unto itself? IE., Space Phenomenon, Life that hasn't been touched by the Gods, Formation and Design, etc.

This is the same question as who created the "Akasha" in the beginning, or how did the universe emerge, we don´t know and probably the gods also don´t know.
 
Fuchs said:
GoldenxChild1 said:
I was reading "Lucifer And the Philosophy Behind Satan/Lucifer" on Exposing Kabbalah. I understand that the "Akasha" or "Void", what have you, is pure potentiality; however, if a "conscious entity" is needed to express the Abyss then how does the Universe create unto itself? IE., Space Phenomenon, Life that hasn't been touched by the Gods, Formation and Design, etc.

This is the same question as who created the "Akasha" in the beginning, or how did the universe emerge, we don´t know and probably the gods also don´t know.

I do believe the gods know.

I'm not necessarily asking about the creation of Akasha as it has always been, bur rather, how it knows the blueprint of life and phenomenon.

In my own opinion, The ALL is Mind. Which means Spirit creates Mentally. Just as we create on a miniature scale. However, it isn't conscious as you or I, or even the Daemons. It's conscious unto itself and knows what to do by itself. It's just food for thought.
 
Fuchs said:
GoldenxChild1 said:
I was reading "Lucifer And the Philosophy Behind Satan/Lucifer" on Exposing Kabbalah. I understand that the "Akasha" or "Void", what have you, is pure potentiality; however, if a "conscious entity" is needed to express the Abyss then how does the Universe create unto itself? IE., Space Phenomenon, Life that hasn't been touched by the Gods, Formation and Design, etc.

This is the same question as who created the "Akasha" in the beginning, or how did the universe emerge, we don´t know and probably the gods also don´t know.

I do believe the gods know.

I'm not necessarily asking about the creation of Akasha as it has always been, bur rather, how it knows the blueprint of life and phenomenon.

In my own opinion, The ALL is Mind. Which means Spirit creates Mentally. Just as we create on a miniature scale. However, it isn't conscious as you or I, or even the Daemons. It's conscious unto itself and knows what to do by itself. It's just food for thought.
 
The gods have actually explained to me exactly how the universe was created. It is hard to explain so long story short it started with the big bang the big bang theory is actually correct.
 
Noobslayer123 said:
The gods have actually explained to me exactly how the universe was created. It is hard to explain so long story short it started with the big bang the big bang theory is actually correct.

No, definitely not.
 
Noobslayer123 said:
The gods have actually explained to me exactly how the universe was created. It is hard to explain so long story short it started with the big bang the big bang theory is actually correct.

Fuck off kike
 
Noobslayer123 said:
The gods have actually explained to me exactly how the universe was created. It is hard to explain so long story short it started with the big bang the big bang theory is actually correct.

You having a drug induced dream is not a message from any god.
 
GoldenxChild1 said:
I was reading "Lucifer And the Philosophy Behind Satan/Lucifer" on Exposing Kabbalah. I understand that the "Akasha" or "Void", what have you, is pure potentiality; however, if a "conscious entity" is needed to express the Abyss then how does the Universe create unto itself? IE., Space Phenomenon, Life that hasn't been touched by the Gods, Formation and Design, etc.

There's this page by Maxine on the JoS where she explains that what modern physics now calls dark matter flowing through the entirety of deep space was once known as the classical element Aether, and was logically discovered based on the premise that "Nature abhors a vacuum." So modern physicists saying that deep space is a vacuum would have sounded loony tunes to the Greeks.

Maxine always said also that everything of the Occult can be explained by Science. Science just hasn't gotten far enough yet, or rather Science hasn't recovered far enough yet.

Think of the way atoms fuse together, elements combine. Helium, hydrogen, etc... all elements are given rise by the Aether. This should be enough to form the connections in your mind without me explaining further. You're a smart person.

I can also add my own little bit of intellectual theory crafting I did on my own using Greek mythology as a base, if you care to hear it. Let me know. It has to do with the layers of deep space and the three Titans, Gaia, Tartaros and Ouranos.
 
Fuchs said:
Noobslayer123 said:
The gods have actually explained to me exactly how the universe was created. It is hard to explain so long story short it started with the big bang the big bang theory is actually correct.

Fuck off kike
Fuchs I ran into this but I honestly do not know if it's just old info:

The reverse swastika of the Nazis represents the "Black Sun" as it is backwards. The Black Sun is of the void. It is a blackhole where all light is drawn in and nothing escapes. The black sun is Plutonian in concept (astrologically) and represents the necessary death and transformation before new life can occur. Those of us who have meditated on the symbol of the black sun have seen the lightening bolts eminating from the center as in the National Socialist symbol above. This is the void of creation as when the blackhole can absorb no more into the vaccuum, it implodes like an atom bomb and this is where the "Big Bang" of creation originates.

https://www.satanslibrary.org/666BlackSun/Symbols666.htm

Maybe somebody can clarify?
 
GoldenxChild1 said:
I was reading "Lucifer And the Philosophy Behind Satan/Lucifer" on Exposing Kabbalah. I understand that the "Akasha" or "Void", what have you, is pure potentiality; however, if a "conscious entity" is needed to express the Abyss then how does the Universe create unto itself? IE., Space Phenomenon, Life that hasn't been touched by the Gods, Formation and Design, etc.

As far as I know, there is no beginning and end of universe. That was what pagans believe. All mythologies say at the beginning there is only either chaos or water. Chaos = akasha (essence of everything) and water = spirituality (I think this may be a reference to akasha, at the end of the day it is still an energy and be found at astral realm).
 
GoldenxChild1 said:
I was reading "Lucifer And the Philosophy Behind Satan/Lucifer" on Exposing Kabbalah. I understand that the "Akasha" or "Void", what have you, is pure potentiality; however, if a "conscious entity" is needed to express the Abyss then how does the Universe create unto itself? IE., Space Phenomenon, Life that hasn't been touched by the Gods, Formation and Design, etc.

Big bang theory is not the answer. It claims something from nothing, which is nonsense.

People who have had near death experiences have said they "merged" with a reality that had a consciousnes, and also with beings of the same there. This consciousness was all pervading and alive in everything around them there. One moment was eternity and eternity in one moment. These beings told them by thought that this is the next level of existence and that this world we are in is just part of something bigger.

I think we will probably work it all out when we are ready at the level of the Godhead. Don't forget, the Gods themselves are still evolving.
 
of the true light said:
Fuchs said:
Noobslayer123 said:
The gods have actually explained to me exactly how the universe was created. It is hard to explain so long story short it started with the big bang the big bang theory is actually correct.

Fuck off kike
Fuchs I ran into this but I honestly do not know if it's just old info:

The reverse swastika of the Nazis represents the "Black Sun" as it is backwards. The Black Sun is of the void. It is a blackhole where all light is drawn in and nothing escapes. The black sun is Plutonian in concept (astrologically) and represents the necessary death and transformation before new life can occur. Those of us who have meditated on the symbol of the black sun have seen the lightening bolts eminating from the center as in the National Socialist symbol above. This is the void of creation as when the blackhole can absorb no more into the vaccuum, it implodes like an atom bomb and this is where the "Big Bang" of creation originates.

https://www.satanslibrary.org/666BlackSun/Symbols666.htm

Maybe somebody can clarify?

this is where the "Big Bang" of creation originates

It´s the same statement as like christ was depicted hanging on the cross as odin was hanging from a tree 3 days.

The took something pagan, renamed it "Big Bang" [quotation marks are sometimes used to describe something in a sarcastic way] brought it out of context (gentiles subconciones is influenced by it, like symbols), twist it´s meaning to push thear agenda. You cited the explanation. It´s orignal also allegorical for a spiritual process the Nigredo stage:

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Skull.gif

The Skull and Bones is symbolic of the Nigredo [transformation] stage of the Magnum Opus (The transformation of the soul into the godhead). This is the death stage in the work, before the soul is purified into the godhead. The dross is separated from the pure.

Black_Sun.gif


The Black Sun, the Raven, the Crow, and the color black also symbolize the Nigredo [transformation] stage. The Black Sun is the astral Sun." https://www.satanisgod.org/dawn666blacksun.angelfire.com/Satanic_Symbols.html
 
GoldenxChild1 said:
Fuchs said:
GoldenxChild1 said:
I was reading "Lucifer And the Philosophy Behind Satan/Lucifer" on Exposing Kabbalah. I understand that the "Akasha" or "Void", what have you, is pure potentiality; however, if a "conscious entity" is needed to express the Abyss then how does the Universe create unto itself? IE., Space Phenomenon, Life that hasn't been touched by the Gods, Formation and Design, etc.

This is the same question as who created the "Akasha" in the beginning, or how did the universe emerge, we don´t know and probably the gods also don´t know.

I do believe the gods know.

I'm not necessarily asking about the creation of Akasha as it has always been, bur rather, how it knows the blueprint of life and phenomenon.

In my own opinion, The ALL is Mind. Which means Spirit creates Mentally. Just as we create on a miniature scale. However, it isn't conscious as you or I, or even the Daemons. It's conscious unto itself and knows what to do by itself. It's just food for thought.

I hope one day I can reach a level of scientific understanding, to understand how from nothing at once, something can be there, or differently expressed how already always something can be there.
 
jrvan said:
GoldenxChild1 said:
I was reading "Lucifer And the Philosophy Behind Satan/Lucifer" on Exposing Kabbalah. I understand that the "Akasha" or "Void", what have you, is pure potentiality; however, if a "conscious entity" is needed to express the Abyss then how does the Universe create unto itself? IE., Space Phenomenon, Life that hasn't been touched by the Gods, Formation and Design, etc.

There's this page by Maxine on the JoS where she explains that what modern physics now calls dark matter flowing through the entirety of deep space was once known as the classical element Aether, and was logically discovered based on the premise that "Nature abhors a vacuum." So modern physicists saying that deep space is a vacuum would have sounded loony tunes to the Greeks.

Maxine always said also that everything of the Occult can be explained by Science. Science just hasn't gotten far enough yet, or rather Science hasn't recovered far enough yet.

Think of the way atoms fuse together, elements combine. Helium, hydrogen, etc... all elements are given rise by the Aether. This should be enough to form the connections in your mind without me explaining further. You're a smart person.

I can also add my own little bit of intellectual theory crafting I did on my own using Greek mythology as a base, if you care to hear it. Let me know. It has to do with the layers of deep space and the three Titans, Gaia, Tartaros and Ouranos.

Thanks for the sincere reply. I would love to hear your theory when you have the time.
 
GoldenxChild1 said:
jrvan said:
GoldenxChild1 said:
I was reading "Lucifer And the Philosophy Behind Satan/Lucifer" on Exposing Kabbalah. I understand that the "Akasha" or "Void", what have you, is pure potentiality; however, if a "conscious entity" is needed to express the Abyss then how does the Universe create unto itself? IE., Space Phenomenon, Life that hasn't been touched by the Gods, Formation and Design, etc.

There's this page by Maxine on the JoS where she explains that what modern physics now calls dark matter flowing through the entirety of deep space was once known as the classical element Aether, and was logically discovered based on the premise that "Nature abhors a vacuum." So modern physicists saying that deep space is a vacuum would have sounded loony tunes to the Greeks.

Maxine always said also that everything of the Occult can be explained by Science. Science just hasn't gotten far enough yet, or rather Science hasn't recovered far enough yet.

Think of the way atoms fuse together, elements combine. Helium, hydrogen, etc... all elements are given rise by the Aether. This should be enough to form the connections in your mind without me explaining further. You're a smart person.

I can also add my own little bit of intellectual theory crafting I did on my own using Greek mythology as a base, if you care to hear it. Let me know. It has to do with the layers of deep space and the three Titans, Gaia, Tartaros and Ouranos.

Thanks for the sincere reply. I would love to hear your theory when you have the time.

Sure thing.

So I put this together in my spare time when I was reading the Greek creation myth. I don't know if it's correct, but it's how my mind conceptualized it for me. Read this first as a primer: https://www.theoi.com/articles/what-is-the-greek-creation-myth/

So I came to believe that there are three primary layers to deep space. The upper layer is Ouranos, the middle layer is Gaia with Pontos kind of merged with her in a way I guess, and the lower layer is Tartaros. There were three "airs" known to the Greeks as Air, Aether (Aeth-air) and Erebos (Air-ebos). Aether would be contained in the upper layer of deep space, air would be contained in the middle layer of deep space, and Erebos in the lower layer of deep space.

The layer of Gaia would correspond to the inner atmosphere of planets where there is oxygen, the air that we breathe. The layer of Ouranos would be above where the Aether is that was said to be breathed by the Gods in heaven which I think means the planets and celestial bodies which were formed from the Aether in the first place. And finally, the layer of Tartaros would correspond to the underground level of planets where Erebos was said to be breathed. I'm also assuming that in a mythological context the creatures of the sea breathe their own sort of air with gills which would correspond to Pontos.

Maybe I'm nutty, but this is how I put it together in my mind.
 
jrvan said:
GoldenxChild1 said:
jrvan said:
There's this page by Maxine on the JoS where she explains that what modern physics now calls dark matter flowing through the entirety of deep space was once known as the classical element Aether, and was logically discovered based on the premise that "Nature abhors a vacuum." So modern physicists saying that deep space is a vacuum would have sounded loony tunes to the Greeks.

Maxine always said also that everything of the Occult can be explained by Science. Science just hasn't gotten far enough yet, or rather Science hasn't recovered far enough yet.

Think of the way atoms fuse together, elements combine. Helium, hydrogen, etc... all elements are given rise by the Aether. This should be enough to form the connections in your mind without me explaining further. You're a smart person.

I can also add my own little bit of intellectual theory crafting I did on my own using Greek mythology as a base, if you care to hear it. Let me know. It has to do with the layers of deep space and the three Titans, Gaia, Tartaros and Ouranos.

Thanks for the sincere reply. I would love to hear your theory when you have the time.

Sure thing.

So I put this together in my spare time when I was reading the Greek creation myth. I don't know if it's correct, but it's how my mind conceptualized it for me. Read this first as a primer: https://www.theoi.com/articles/what-is-the-greek-creation-myth/

So I came to believe that there are three primary layers to deep space. The upper layer is Ouranos, the middle layer is Gaia with Pontos kind of merged with her in a way I guess, and the lower layer is Tartaros. There were three "airs" known to the Greeks as Air, Aether (Aeth-air) and Erebos (Air-ebos). Aether would be contained in the upper layer of deep space, air would be contained in the middle layer of deep space, and Erebos in the lower layer of deep space.

The layer of Gaia would correspond to the inner atmosphere of planets where there is oxygen, the air that we breathe. The layer of Ouranos would be above where the Aether is that was said to be breathed by the Gods in heaven which I think means the planets and celestial bodies which were formed from the Aether in the first place. And finally, the layer of Tartaros would correspond to the underground level of planets where Erebos was said to be breathed. I'm also assuming that in a mythological context the creatures of the sea breathe their own sort of air with gills which would correspond to Pontos.

Maybe I'm nutty, but this is how I put it together in my mind.

Could Tartaros be Shambala? So there is in underground and living gods there breathing too. Just occurred in my mind after read your theory. What do you think? Is it possible? By the way, good theory, I liked it.
 
Bright Truth said:
jrvan said:
GoldenxChild1 said:
Thanks for the sincere reply. I would love to hear your theory when you have the time.

Sure thing.

So I put this together in my spare time when I was reading the Greek creation myth. I don't know if it's correct, but it's how my mind conceptualized it for me. Read this first as a primer: https://www.theoi.com/articles/what-is-the-greek-creation-myth/

So I came to believe that there are three primary layers to deep space. The upper layer is Ouranos, the middle layer is Gaia with Pontos kind of merged with her in a way I guess, and the lower layer is Tartaros. There were three "airs" known to the Greeks as Air, Aether (Aeth-air) and Erebos (Air-ebos). Aether would be contained in the upper layer of deep space, air would be contained in the middle layer of deep space, and Erebos in the lower layer of deep space.

The layer of Gaia would correspond to the inner atmosphere of planets where there is oxygen, the air that we breathe. The layer of Ouranos would be above where the Aether is that was said to be breathed by the Gods in heaven which I think means the planets and celestial bodies which were formed from the Aether in the first place. And finally, the layer of Tartaros would correspond to the underground level of planets where Erebos was said to be breathed. I'm also assuming that in a mythological context the creatures of the sea breathe their own sort of air with gills which would correspond to Pontos.

Maybe I'm nutty, but this is how I put it together in my mind.

Could Tartaros be Shambala? So there is in underground and living gods there breathing too. Just occurred in my mind after read your theory. What do you think? Is it possible? By the way, good theory, I liked it.

I remember reading this line in mythology where Zeus said to someone who asked him about Tartaros, "Tartaros is as far below Hades as Heaven is above Earth." That's part of what got me to thinking that Tartaros is a layer of deep space which contains the Underworld of planets, or something similar to that.

As for Shambala, I suspect that may be related to Avalon, Duat, Hel, Hades, Asgard, Orion, etc.., but that's just my own conjecture. Most of the mythologies seem to overlap quite a lot and share references to an Underworld and residing place of the Gods. I don't know the exact reason why they made distinctions between Olympos/Hades, Asgard/Hel, and so on other than the obvious connection to the base and crown chakras. There's some scholarly writing out there which suggests Asgard and Hel were originally considered the same afterlife, but that Asgard became a popular conception for the nobles and other important figures who died in battle. They seem to think so because they discovered tombs on a high hill I think which was a reserved burial ground for the wealthier folk or something like that, IIRC. That's just scholarly opinion though. Personally I don't trust a damn thing that Snorri Sturluson wrote about the Norse myths of the Gods. I actually threw away the copy I owned of the Prose Edda after realizing more and more just how corrupted it all was. I couldn't take it anymore. There was actually a thunderstorm going on when I did that which was kind of interesting. I figured it either meant I was blaspheming by throwing away the book, or doing the right thing by making the decision to trust the Gods and get to know them without a book. Or maybe it was just a thunderstorm :lol:

There was also supposedly the underground caverns beneath the Earth where the Gods were said to have temporarily lived with humans, but this might be simply Vril Society literature. I'm not well read enough on that particularly.
 
jrvan said:
GoldenxChild1 said:
jrvan said:
There's this page by Maxine on the JoS where she explains that what modern physics now calls dark matter flowing through the entirety of deep space was once known as the classical element Aether, and was logically discovered based on the premise that "Nature abhors a vacuum." So modern physicists saying that deep space is a vacuum would have sounded loony tunes to the Greeks.

Maxine always said also that everything of the Occult can be explained by Science. Science just hasn't gotten far enough yet, or rather Science hasn't recovered far enough yet.

Think of the way atoms fuse together, elements combine. Helium, hydrogen, etc... all elements are given rise by the Aether. This should be enough to form the connections in your mind without me explaining further. You're a smart person.

I can also add my own little bit of intellectual theory crafting I did on my own using Greek mythology as a base, if you care to hear it. Let me know. It has to do with the layers of deep space and the three Titans, Gaia, Tartaros and Ouranos.

Thanks for the sincere reply. I would love to hear your theory when you have the time.

Sure thing.

So I put this together in my spare time when I was reading the Greek creation myth. I don't know if it's correct, but it's how my mind conceptualized it for me. Read this first as a primer: https://www.theoi.com/articles/what-is-the-greek-creation-myth/

So I came to believe that there are three primary layers to deep space. The upper layer is Ouranos, the middle layer is Gaia with Pontos kind of merged with her in a way I guess, and the lower layer is Tartaros. There were three "airs" known to the Greeks as Air, Aether (Aeth-air) and Erebos (Air-ebos). Aether would be contained in the upper layer of deep space, air would be contained in the middle layer of deep space, and Erebos in the lower layer of deep space.

The layer of Gaia would correspond to the inner atmosphere of planets where there is oxygen, the air that we breathe. The layer of Ouranos would be above where the Aether is that was said to be breathed by the Gods in heaven which I think means the planets and celestial bodies which were formed from the Aether in the first place. And finally, the layer of Tartaros would correspond to the underground level of planets where Erebos was said to be breathed. I'm also assuming that in a mythological context the creatures of the sea breathe their own sort of air with gills which would correspond to Pontos.

Maybe I'm nutty, but this is how I put it together in my mind.

Very interesting, I have never read the Greek creation myth. Is there a place I can find the entire text?
 
GoldenxChild1 said:
jrvan said:
GoldenxChild1 said:
Thanks for the sincere reply. I would love to hear your theory when you have the time.

Sure thing.

So I put this together in my spare time when I was reading the Greek creation myth. I don't know if it's correct, but it's how my mind conceptualized it for me. Read this first as a primer: https://www.theoi.com/articles/what-is-the-greek-creation-myth/

So I came to believe that there are three primary layers to deep space. The upper layer is Ouranos, the middle layer is Gaia with Pontos kind of merged with her in a way I guess, and the lower layer is Tartaros. There were three "airs" known to the Greeks as Air, Aether (Aeth-air) and Erebos (Air-ebos). Aether would be contained in the upper layer of deep space, air would be contained in the middle layer of deep space, and Erebos in the lower layer of deep space.

The layer of Gaia would correspond to the inner atmosphere of planets where there is oxygen, the air that we breathe. The layer of Ouranos would be above where the Aether is that was said to be breathed by the Gods in heaven which I think means the planets and celestial bodies which were formed from the Aether in the first place. And finally, the layer of Tartaros would correspond to the underground level of planets where Erebos was said to be breathed. I'm also assuming that in a mythological context the creatures of the sea breathe their own sort of air with gills which would correspond to Pontos.

Maybe I'm nutty, but this is how I put it together in my mind.

Very interesting, I have never read the Greek creation myth. Is there a place I can find the entire text?

It's probably in Hesiod's Theogony. I've never read it myself. The only texts I'm intimately familiar with are the Eddas, and even that isn't a complete understanding as I haven't fully read the Poetic Edda. I haven't studied the Vedas or the Greek texts by Homer and others. I only know the pieces of it all that I have gained from reading summaries and such online (which is actually a lot of knowledge from doing that continually over time. For example, I instantly recognized Ariton 666's name as a reference to the mythical horse child of Poseidon and Demeter).

I used to study mythology a lot in my own time at home including articles and whatnot. I studied everything I could find about the Norse myths because for some reason I felt the most drawn to the Norse depictions of the Gods at the time and even simply the word "Norse." Maybe I was a Scandinavian in a past life.

I was so interested in mythological knowledge and the occult that I even started reading the bible years ago before I knew anything about the jews. I only managed to get up to the book of leviticus before I was ready to barf, and I was like "Yep. God's an asshole." I closed it and gave the book back, and I never touched a bible again. There was this part where Aaron's son gets swallowed up in flame and devoured by their "god" because the son accidentally mishandled a ritual tool or something. And the priest's annotation comments were trying to justify it by saying "It's God's holy ineffable perfect nature, and God's attendants and servants cannot be impure" or some dumb shit like that. That's just like a jew too because if you do one little mistake in their eyes around them they start freaking out on you. If more xians actually read the bible instead of just skipping to revelations or whatever because they don't like to read then they would (hopefully) be thoroughly disgusted with the material in the book. If I couldn't even handle leviticus then I don't know how I would have stomached the rest of the garbage beyond. And I didn't even finish leviticus so I'm sure it got worse from there. As if burnt offerings could get much worse, but you know what I mean.

I also remember this joke in an animated show I watched a long time ago called Brickleberry, and the xian park master (it's a cartoon about park management and park rangers) decided to actually read the bible. He was skimming through genesis and whatnot, and he was like "okay okay so far so good." Then he got to the begotten sons part, and he kept reading the names and getting frustrated, and finally he threw the book behind his head and was like "God! Who wrote this gibberish!?" It was so funny.

Excuse the major digression haha. I'm pretty sure the Theogony is where to look for the Greek creation myth.
 

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