On the Importance of Dialogue

Osiris Silvio · Jun 15, 2021

There is a striking problem wherewith I am constantly faced in most of the National Socialist groups among several others: the complete inability to go through a discussion and maintain a dialogue with someone who has an opposing view, or even a slightly different viewpoint.

It is through sharing our ideas and challenging our beliefs that we learn new thoughts and discover inconsistencies within our ideology; otherwise our beliefs become stagnant and weak.

I oppose blindly sticking to any set of beliefs or rules, no matter what they be. Haven’t the JoS clergy reviewed many ideas over time and corrected them?

Upset about the homophobic narratives of National Socialism which fill the internet, I wanted to see what the NS really think about homosexuality, how reasonable and accepting they are; I therefore ventured to ask about it on a NS group (GoyimTV). The amount of hate with which the members began to corner me was beyond reason. I shared a few relevant points thereof and was immediately blocked. This article by High Priestess Maxine Dietrich shows that National Socialists had no problem with homosexuality: https://archive.fo/gfgSg.

Why are these NS so homophobic? Because they are uncritically believing and absorbing the Jewish lies about National Socialism. The Jews seem to have been planning to promulgate homosexuality in hope to reduce the Gentile population and as a means of divide and conquer; so they hit two birds with one shot by creating blood-curdling fairytales about National Socialists’ torturing homosexuals for their private sexual life. The Jews had forged a speech and attributed it to Himmler. Many of us are familiar with this speech (The Homosexual Threat to Civilization). The shrewd are able to recognize the Jewish hand in this speech, for the amount of incoherent stupidity, unreasonable hate, and Jewish propaganda therein are utterly unlike the true essence of National Socialism. However, the majority of the Goyim fall fo fit; and this forged speech is not nearly homophobic as much as it is harmful to National Socialism. It is sad that many National Socialists of today are actually neo-Nazis whose knowledge and principles are influenced entirely by the Jews who control the Neo-Nazi movement.

I hardly can count the number of groups from which I was banned for merely sounding Satanic or uttering a word about Satan. I was even banned from a Satanic group which seemed to be more of a meeting place for homophobic neo-Nazi skinheads and sociopaths than for spiritual Satanists. I was banned because I asked a question in hope of finding an answer about a paragraph from the Protocols of Zion in which the "Elders" said something about Vishnu and which I could not comprehend at all.

Without going into further details, it is doubtless that the dialogue, and the ability to have a healthy one, is an invaluable skill from which we can all benefit and which will help us in promoting our cause and reaching for wider audiences.
In the end, we come from different cultures and places, we are not and should not be identical; we are Satanists, not a reptilian hive of extra-terrestrials which function like a one-minded borg. Thus, it is acceptable to have opposing opinions; it should be well accepted to think and not only absorb and conform.

As for how to have a good dialogue, there are thousands of books and articles on the internet. I myself am extremely undiplomatic, almost full of traumas yet unresolved and aggression; I am not saying that I am a good conversationalist, but that these unreasonable censorships and deafness are only slowing our evolution. We must always stay rational and reasonable, for these are Satanic qualities. No matter what you believe in, if you cannot have a serious discussion about it, then you are not worthy of preaching about it; this is a sign of weakness. It is through challenging and criticizing the core beliefs of society that the great thinkers and philosophers succeeded in highlighting all the blemishes and shortcomings of Christianity and Abrhamic religions, and in all things good and bad there exist shortcomings which need to be addressed so as to be fixed.

Thuledragon666 · Jun 15, 2021

I was going to write a big ass comment but tbh let me just say you had a chat that had o9a content being posted, o9a apologists, and you were dangerously considering letting a jew stay in chat. You are talking about dialogue with the enemy and people who would rather be adversarial to their own people. Is Satan actually okay with us getting aquainted with jews? I honestly don't think so and the clergy if memory serves right actually warned us to not associate with o9a members. Calling the kettle black on a certain chat when yours is worse about informing people considering what is allowed as to mix up what satanism is. I am not sorry if we don't dialogue with the enemy of satan and our race as well as the enemies non jewish who is sworn against their own.

Osiris Silvio · Jun 16, 2021

Thuledragon666 said:
I was going to write a big ass comment but tbh let me just say you had a chat that had o9a content being posted, o9a apologists, and you were dangerously considering letting a jew stay in chat. You are talking about dialogue with the enemy and people who would rather be adversarial to their own people. Is Satan actually okay with us getting aquainted with jews? I honestly don't think so and the clergy if memory serves right actually warned us to not associate with o9a members. Calling the kettle black on a certain chat when yours is worse about informing people considering what is allowed as to mix up what satanism is. I am not sorry if we don't dialogue with the enemy of satan and our race as well as the enemies non jewish who is sworn against their own.

We cannot transform people overnight. What I do on my channel is share JoS content everyday and speak against o9a which is a topic I know least about whenever possible, so all I can say is that o9a is Jewish and it promotes blood libel or blood sacrifice. As for having good interpersonal and communication skills, this will make it easier to convince other Satanists that o9a is bad. This is better than giving up and labelling others as anything.
I did not allow a Jew to stay on my channel. I have already blocked many. But that one was asking a question and I was in the process of answering him and I was all fine with your blocking him. I still find my channel much better than the latter despite it is budding size, esp because the latter is literally infested with unspiritual Neo-Nazi skinheads who know too little about true NS.
We all come from different backgrounds, we all conceive different ideas in out introspection. Giving voice to our doubts and introspections does not make us disloyal to the will of our Father Satan, but should permit us to find more tangible arguments which would correct the mistaken side.
As for the too many red lines of taboos that some people are creating for themselves, it only make is harder to find out a certain truth which a good discussion can otherwise achieve.

Osiris Silvio · Jun 16, 2021

Thuledragon666 said:
I was going to write a big ass comment but tbh let me just say you had a chat that had o9a content being posted, o9a apologists, and you were dangerously considering letting a jew stay in chat. You are talking about dialogue with the enemy and people who would rather be adversarial to their own people. Is Satan actually okay with us getting aquainted with jews? I honestly don't think so and the clergy if memory serves right actually warned us to not associate with o9a members. Calling the kettle black on a certain chat when yours is worse about informing people considering what is allowed as to mix up what satanism is. I am not sorry if we don't dialogue with the enemy of satan and our race as well as the enemies non jewish who is sworn against their own.

I'm unsure how your logic works, but I am not at all responsible for the beliefs and convictions of people on my group, and I do not ban users just for having different convictions. I am only responsible for the content which I share and which has so far been exclusive to JoS and through which I seek to influence those with different convictions. Other than that, I will be only promoting exaggerated censorship as the Jews do with their monopolized communication platforms.

Satanic Eagle · Jun 16, 2021

Osiris Silvio said:
There is a striking problem wherewith I am constantly faced in most of the National Socialist groups among several others: the complete inability to go through a discussion and maintain a dialogue with someone who has an opposing view, or even a slightly different viewpoint.

Definitely. This problem extends to most of society, as people would rather blindly follow their beliefs instead of question what they know. Christianity is a great example of that as you said, it necessitates dogma because it's 'gods word' and you will be punished for not believing in him. If people questioned the historical roots of christianity and were receptive to that information, then it would collapse within days.

I completely agree with questioning everything. Everything we want to know as well as everything we think we already know. The great advances humanity has made, always occurred because somebody questioned the current way of thinking, and what was already 'known'.

However, on an individual basis, definitely choose which places to have discussion and debates. It simply isn't productive to debate with a dogmatic person, or as Yuri Bezmenov would say; "demoralised"; "they are programmed to think and react to certain stimuli and pattern. You cannot change their mind, even if you expose them to authentic information".

Instead pick your battles, don't bother with people who are completely unreceptive to new information. It's just taking up your valuable time as a Satanist. People these days are weak, and many larp as national socialists or satanists with no understanding of what they mean.

Thuledragon666 · Jun 17, 2021

Osiris Silvio said:
Thuledragon666 said:

I was going to write a big ass comment but tbh let me just say you had a chat that had o9a content being posted, o9a apologists, and you were dangerously considering letting a jew stay in chat. You are talking about dialogue with the enemy and people who would rather be adversarial to their own people. Is Satan actually okay with us getting aquainted with jews? I honestly don't think so and the clergy if memory serves right actually warned us to not associate with o9a members. Calling the kettle black on a certain chat when yours is worse about informing people considering what is allowed as to mix up what satanism is. I am not sorry if we don't dialogue with the enemy of satan and our race as well as the enemies non jewish who is sworn against their own.

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I'm unsure how your logic works, but I am not at all responsible for the beliefs and convictions of people on my group, and I do not ban users just for having different convictions. I am only responsible for the content which I share and which has so far been exclusive to JoS and through which I seek to influence those with different convictions. Other than that, I will be only promoting exaggerated censorship as the Jews do with their monopolized communication platforms.

Too long didn't read, was crap

You can keep o9a tob shitheads in your room as well as leather freaks but I am not rolling with that, the other chat has better adminship and keeps the spread of information to that of Jos and articles spitting truth. It don't quite matter that there is this huge number of dipshits that spew Jewish lies when we don't even waste our time with most of it, just delete and say it's not a debate channel/group and if they keep posting propaganda just mute or remove them. It's rather a good and nice chat that you are just pissy about because of what impression you have left towards some of us in that chat. Your chat that is, painting a pretty suspicious picture of you seeing what you are tolerating and not seeing as a problem. Again you can have edgelord o9a members in your chat and leather freaks too... Maybe a pinch of jews too. I will never be in your chat again and I never wanna be.

Henu the Great · Jun 17, 2021

Dialogue with the enemy is akin to negotiating with terrorists, hostage takers and so on.

No such thing.

Only viable solution is total annihilation, and by that I mean astrally, of course.

Bravera · Jun 17, 2021

Look at what we have accomplished with Spiritual Means up until now.
All of our RTRs are like Wishes with a fuse.
Every single one of our affirmations will be completed.
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I personally prefer to take the "selfish" path, I will only assist my SS siblings, I do get requests for guidance all the time now, and Ill drop hints related to what I believe is proper for people to open their minds to at this point.
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I agree Online Warfare is vital, and I have hangups in regards to this, but I believe in "perfect practice makes perfect". Assist those who will actually make a difference right now, Satan, Our Daemons, The priesthood, the Advanced, and the Dedicated.
We should be our own #1 Priority. If we have family, especially should we learn to be a role model for them. And we must work to be a role model within the cities we call home.
Our SS community is massive and growing, I noticed I have 1000s of views on my posts from years ago. If we wish to guide people, let us guide our SS family first and foremost.

https://satanisgod.org/www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Al_Jilwah.html

Dahaarkan · Jun 17, 2021

You should not entertain retards with dialogue at all. You should come to realize a majority of people are closer to excrement than actual sentient beings and should not be engaged beyond just presenting them with links and leaving it at that.

You will see a pattern when observing people who are incapable or unwilling to have any form of open and honest dialogue, or having their views or beliefs challenged. The overly zealous types are easily manipulated livestock that exist just to be exploited by people smarter than them, as they always are.

I am not at all surprised most NS groups are largely composed of morons and/or jews. It takes a modicum of intelligence and effort to truly be able to deconstruct one's world-view and look at things objectively and in an unbiased manner, and most people really just exist to be exploited, slaves/livestock and nothing beyond that.

It's easier and more comfortable to simply align yourself with groups where everyone blindly believes the same things than to actually meditate and think on the reality of the world around you.

Thinking and processing information is a difficult thing for morons and anybody that shakes up their world-view is a major inconvenience for them, so they shun them away so they can remain in their bubble.

When you understand the reality of how these people operate you come to realize there is neither a chance nor a point at any dialogue. They may have convinced themselves that they are NS or that they oppose the jews, but in the end they are just confused livestock that serve their kike overlords' agenda without even realizing it. At their core they are still just good goyim.

Sometimes such people stumble into this place and are usually shocked to see the group does not operate like a hivemind where everyone has the same views and the same opinions. Indeed some try to make it so, exploding into psychotic and ludicrous rants towards anybody who differs in views to them to drive them away and turn the forum into a hivemind where every post is agreement or compliments.

I suppose in keeping with the light handed approach to freedom of speech their retardation has to be tolerated to an extent. Don't feel discouraged from opening dialogue because of these types, the group mostly views them as pests anyway.

As for dialogue with jews, remember that most of them are pretty retarded and you'll get nothing out of it. Jews that could actually have valuable information will not engage you anyway, so dialogue with them is a waste of time.

SouthernWhiteGentile · Jun 17, 2021

I agree it’s hard to have discussion outside of JoS because everyone rightfully thinks you’re an enemy or subverter if you go against their strict doctrine whichever it may be. I feel comfortable talking about anything with you guys not so much in other places.

Gearshift · Jun 17, 2021

Satanic Eagle said it best especially from the words of a former communist supporter/sympathizer/worker. They are "demoralized" end of discussion.

I don't think even sending people to re-education centers or the opposite "Re-moralization". Would work, in fact if anything it'll cause a brainfart in them causing them to implode or even explode or both from the shock and awe of differences.

For example Hitler said it best on homosexuals and this is coming from King of the Nazis. Himmler one day walks into Hitler's office and goes "Hitler some of my men, they are having sex with each other". To which Hitler replies "Let me tell you something Himmler, my lads are no angels nor do I expect them to be. I have no time for goody, goodies and leagues of viruoso. I have no time for my men to listen to a bunch of church hens, what my men do to blow off steam is their personal business, you got that Himmler?".

The Nazi way on homosexuality is it's your personal business as a matter of fact MANY meeting bars and places were or at those times WAS a meeting place for homosexuals whether they were Nazis or not either before Nazism's rise or during it's rise.

I think the entire attitude of anti-homosexual is perfect example of xtian indoctrination. It's akin to the French chef from The Simpsons. He tries and kill Homer by putting poison into the pastry to which he also puts in the antidote before he realizes and puts a stop to that.

These people for whatever reason probably due to having inferior mental abilities and being followers rather than leaders rather they don't take the Fuhrertum position. They believe whatever they believe, Hitler hated homos, Oy vey we got the goyim to hate their own goyim lul'd the Kike.

Funny if these people knew how jewish their Weltanschaang is they'd probably accept it and go I'd rather be a Jewish Nazi than a Gentile Nazi. To which even a forced labor camp where they work 4-5 hours a day and the rest of the free time is spent either at breakfast, lunch, or dinner and finally several hours worth of propaganda training would not change them at all if anything like I said it'll drive them into being schizophrenics with multiple personalities. Unless THEY make the decision they'll NEVER change.

For example the big hot button issue now a days is the racial issue i.e. racial bigotry(hatred of another race like calling them a nigger or chink especially the anti-Asian hate coming around). Rather disguised as racists or racialist.

To which the opposite information would encourage better racial relation. Funny the guy from the N.R.M.(Nordic Resistance Movement) said it best. He was a former hardcore communist and the only reason why he became NS with the NRM was because they discussed the racial issue and he never heard or if he did hear about racialists stuff with commies is always the same thing "Oy vey fellow goys we are being raciazized we are racists there are racists how can we do things without being racists".

Tim Pool said it best "The people who promote anti-racism(anti-bigotry proper term) are in fact promoting racism(bigotry)". In other words in Satan, Satanism, Hitler, Nazism and everyone else promoting racial discourse they are in fact preserving and racial diversity rather the opposite the people who oppose it are in fact destroying it.

Race = one of the top 10 most important properties of humanity. Just as the jew kvetches incessantly about jewmanity and it's preservation "oy vey goyim we gotta goy things up for future generazions and sheit no goyim should be left alone especially if it works against us kikes". The same can be said about Gentiles there needs to be racialist realism discussion and proper coordination against JNWO.

In my personal opinion I believe this jewphilia these groups exhibit(cucked NS groups) is because they are jealous of the jewish values and jewish existence. They are raised to be xtian but not jewish but be jewish without being jewish. They are raised in a demoralized fashion of being a goyim sinner whereby every they do down to the very creation and very birth is a sin thus born from sin, into sin. And on top of that they see the jewish community expanding progressing and doing things which originally is Paganized/Satanic stuff transmogrified into kosher hymie hustle kike non-sense.

They are told jews are chosen of god and some how gods in carneth(the old kike statement "To strike a jew is akin to striking God" thus we kill you". Funny good jews we are chosen of god or else we kill you nice people those jews Might is Right if you don't like us jews we kill you lul'd the jew.

Well funny enough these people are born to be non-jewish jewish people. What is chrsitianity communism with a tinsel of metaphysics. What is christianity being jewish without being jewish. Somehow these demoralized retards believe the jew is the greatest thing ever they are so hava nagilic that the hava nagila needs to played at bass boosted levels for the goyshkopfation processes.

In my personal opinion these people have never seen the Gods, don't know anything about their Gods, and never seen the civilization of the Gods. I think if one of these kosher non-kosher kosher cucks saw the Gods and what they do. It begs the question will they shatter and surrender and go "Okay teach me everything from the ground up" or "Would they somehow attack the Gods or get pist off at the Gods or do something to harm the Gods which in turn harms them cause harming the Gods is retarded".

So in simple terms these people have been demoralized. They are not SS they not NS they are simply kosher goyims of the enemy of the kikes who are kept under lock and key. It's almost like their freedom of studying NS has actually imprisoned them. In other words they entered the trap of the jews. They don't check the bait, nor trap, nor anything they blindly see Hitler or NS and go "Sheeb goyim" "Tob sheeb goyim harag". They are in essence like I said before non-kosher kosher cocksuckers.

Hitler said this, so we do this. When in reality Hitler never said that. Nazis hate homo, wait dumbass the only homos Hitler had a problem with were 8-10% of the gay and lesbian population whom were communist subverters and even then it begs the question of how many of the 8-10% eventually became NS or returned to society reeducated at a camp for their own benefit of being a proper German citizen or even combatant.

At the end of the day if people want a proper message on being a proper NS/SS. Is be firm, stand up for yourself, shut down their debates, use information they never heard of and use it against them(ex: the Army of Mankind website mourningtheancients) etc.etc.etc. Use information they never even heard of or bothered to research. It's akin to playing certain video games whereby you perform metagaming i.e. using advanced tactics and builds which are not being used to change the entire landscape of a game to which you change the meta and everyone copies you.

In other words by using knowledge you wreck'em. Don't allow them to gain a foothold rather play to crush.

At the end of the day I also gotta agree with Henu the Great. Spiritual warfare and focus on the diamonds in the rough. Extract the diamonds and let the rest falter unto their own stupidity.

Satanism/Nazism/Gentilism is not about being stupid or more specifically being a slave to kosher hymies i.e. goyim.

Rather your a God in training might as well use the less egotistical and non-hypocritical God in training. Rather than being a kike who is a God in carneth whose ego is so heightened they literally believe somehow being chosen by god is something special.

We Gentiles were chosen of God as well by Satan but he never stated take it to your head and grow your ego to magnanimous levels whereby you become an insufferable piece of shit.

Rather he took the high road it's something special as I found the Earth and other habitable planets a rarity I'm sure humanity is very special for the intriguing amount of life sustaining planets in our neck of the woods. But again I highly doubt Satan take this chosen of godness and explode it so high your just the only ultimate rather he probably went look further then that sure your special but don't make it all about yourself rather see it from the 300IQ position.

Either way it's nice to reach out to these groups but the only ones who bother to change themselves are the diamonds surrounded by the rough. Barring certain others groups and certain other organizations JoS has survived since 2002 which in internet terms is an eternity we still have 2002-2003 information which HP.Cobra mentioned new information. Our website is basically a blast from the past. Like my friend mentioned to me the old HTML1/2/3 websites those old cheapy websites like Geocities have a goldmine of information.

If these people do not wish to be anything other than jewish nazi goyim. Shut them down and make them see past the Forrest and trees.

Like Marilyn Manson stated in his song "They can't see the Forrest nor the trees and they can't smell their own shit on their knees".

Disinformation and fake information is the #1 job of the enemy. But when the truth is told and "blockchained" into reality or memed into reality, blockchaining the information then the enemy shits their pants as their narrative breaks down as your metagaming them with old, new, and advanced information use mental, physical, spiritual and technological information to destroy their narrative and never let the virus gain a foothold.

Thuledragon666 · Jun 17, 2021

Henu the Great said:
Dialogue with the enemy is akin to negotiating with terrorists, hostage takers and so on.

No such thing.

Only viable solution is total annihilation, and by that I mean astrally, of course.

ALRIGHT speaking my language brother/sister hail!

Osiris Silvio · Jun 18, 2021

Thuledragon666 said:
Osiris Silvio said:

Thuledragon666 said:

I was going to write a big ass comment but tbh let me just say you had a chat that had o9a content being posted, o9a apologists, and you were dangerously considering letting a jew stay in chat. You are talking about dialogue with the enemy and people who would rather be adversarial to their own people. Is Satan actually okay with us getting aquainted with jews? I honestly don't think so and the clergy if memory serves right actually warned us to not associate with o9a members. Calling the kettle black on a certain chat when yours is worse about informing people considering what is allowed as to mix up what satanism is. I am not sorry if we don't dialogue with the enemy of satan and our race as well as the enemies non jewish who is sworn against their own.

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I'm unsure how your logic works, but I am not at all responsible for the beliefs and convictions of people on my group, and I do not ban users just for having different convictions. I am only responsible for the content which I share and which has so far been exclusive to JoS and through which I seek to influence those with different convictions. Other than that, I will be only promoting exaggerated censorship as the Jews do with their monopolized communication platforms.

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Too long didn't read, was crap

You can keep o9a tob shitheads in your room as well as leather freaks but I am not rolling with that, the other chat has better adminship and keeps the spread of information to that of Jos and articles spitting truth. It don't quite matter that there is this huge number of dipshits that spew Jewish lies when we don't even waste our time with most of it, just delete and say it's not a debate channel/group and if they keep posting propaganda just mute or remove them. It's rather a good and nice chat that you are just pissy about because of what impression you have left towards some of us in that chat. Your chat that is, painting a pretty suspicious picture of you seeing what you are tolerating and not seeing as a problem. Again you can have edgelord o9a members in your chat and leather freaks too... Maybe a pinch of jews too. I will never be in your chat again and I never wanna be.

Here's a short answer for your retarded mind: you are completely idiotic with compromised intelligence and comprehension. For real, you have a bit of schizophrenia. And the tendency to get stuck at one detail which you keep exaggerating and exaggerating is just funny.

Osiris Silvio · Jun 18, 2021

Dahaarkan said:
You should not entertain retards with dialogue at all. You should come to realize a majority of people are closer to excrement than actual sentient beings and should not be engaged beyond just presenting them with links and leaving it at that.

You will see a pattern when observing people who are incapable or unwilling to have any form of open and honest dialogue, or having their views or beliefs challenged. The overly zealous types are easily manipulated livestock that exist just to be exploited by people smarter than them, as they always are.

I am not at all surprised most NS groups are largely composed of morons and/or jews. It takes a modicum of intelligence and effort to truly be able to deconstruct one's world-view and look at things objectively and in an unbiased manner, and most people really just exist to be exploited, slaves/livestock and nothing beyond that.

It's easier and more comfortable to simply align yourself with groups where everyone blindly believes the same things than to actually meditate and think on the reality of the world around you.

Thinking and processing information is a difficult thing for morons and anybody that shakes up their world-view is a major inconvenience for them, so they shun them away so they can remain in their bubble.

When you understand the reality of how these people operate you come to realize there is neither a chance nor a point at any dialogue. They may have convinced themselves that they are NS or that they oppose the jews, but in the end they are just confused livestock that serve their kike overlords' agenda without even realizing it. At their core they are still just good goyim.

Sometimes such people stumble into this place and are usually shocked to see the group does not operate like a hivemind where everyone has the same views and the same opinions. Indeed some try to make it so, exploding into psychotic and ludicrous rants towards anybody who differs in views to them to drive them away and turn the forum into a hivemind where every post is agreement or compliments.

I suppose in keeping with the light handed approach to freedom of speech their retardation has to be tolerated to an extent. Don't feel discouraged from opening dialogue because of these types, the group mostly views them as pests anyway.

As for dialogue with jews, remember that most of them are pretty retarded and you'll get nothing out of it. Jews that could actually have valuable information will not engage you anyway, so dialogue with them is a waste of time.

Dialogue with Satanists, especially JoS Satanists is what I meant by this post. But dialogue in general among NS and others is also necessary.

Osiris Silvio · Jun 18, 2021

Gear88 said:
Satanic Eagle said it best especially from the words of a former communist supporter/sympathizer/worker. They are "demoralized" end of discussion.

I don't think even sending people to re-education centers or the opposite "Re-moralization". Would work, in fact if anything it'll cause a brainfart in them causing them to implode or even explode or both from the shock and awe of differences.

For example Hitler said it best on homosexuals and this is coming from King of the Nazis. Himmler one day walks into Hitler's office and goes "Hitler some of my men, they are having sex with each other". To which Hitler replies "Let me tell you something Himmler, my lads are no angels nor do I expect them to be. I have no time for goody, goodies and leagues of viruoso. I have no time for my men to listen to a bunch of church hens, what my men do to blow off steam is their personal business, you got that Himmler?".

The Nazi way on homosexuality is it's your personal business as a matter of fact MANY meeting bars and places were or at those times WAS a meeting place for homosexuals whether they were Nazis or not either before Nazism's rise or during it's rise.

I think the entire attitude of anti-homosexual is perfect example of xtian indoctrination. It's akin to the French chef from The Simpsons. He tries and kill Homer by putting poison into the pastry to which he also puts in the antidote before he realizes and puts a stop to that.

These people for whatever reason probably due to having inferior mental abilities and being followers rather than leaders rather they don't take the Fuhrertum position. They believe whatever they believe, Hitler hated homos, Oy vey we got the goyim to hate their own goyim lul'd the Kike.

Funny if these people knew how jewish their Weltanschaang is they'd probably accept it and go I'd rather be a Jewish Nazi than a Gentile Nazi. To which even a forced labor camp where they work 4-5 hours a day and the rest of the free time is spent either at breakfast, lunch, or dinner and finally several hours worth of propaganda training would not change them at all if anything like I said it'll drive them into being schizophrenics with multiple personalities. Unless THEY make the decision they'll NEVER change.

For example the big hot button issue now a days is the racial issue i.e. racial bigotry(hatred of another race like calling them a nigger or chink especially the anti-Asian hate coming around). Rather disguised as racists or racialist.

To which the opposite information would encourage better racial relation. Funny the guy from the N.R.M.(Nordic Resistance Movement) said it best. He was a former hardcore communist and the only reason why he became NS with the NRM was because they discussed the racial issue and he never heard or if he did hear about racialists stuff with commies is always the same thing "Oy vey fellow goys we are being raciazized we are racists there are racists how can we do things without being racists".

Tim Pool said it best "The people who promote anti-racism(anti-bigotry proper term) are in fact promoting racism(bigotry)". In other words in Satan, Satanism, Hitler, Nazism and everyone else promoting racial discourse they are in fact preserving and racial diversity rather the opposite the people who oppose it are in fact destroying it.

Race = one of the top 10 most important properties of humanity. Just as the jew kvetches incessantly about jewmanity and it's preservation "oy vey goyim we gotta goy things up for future generazions and sheit no goyim should be left alone especially if it works against us kikes". The same can be said about Gentiles there needs to be racialist realism discussion and proper coordination against JNWO.

In my personal opinion I believe this jewphilia these groups exhibit(cucked NS groups) is because they are jealous of the jewish values and jewish existence. They are raised to be xtian but not jewish but be jewish without being jewish. They are raised in a demoralized fashion of being a goyim sinner whereby every they do down to the very creation and very birth is a sin thus born from sin, into sin. And on top of that they see the jewish community expanding progressing and doing things which originally is Paganized/Satanic stuff transmogrified into kosher hymie hustle kike non-sense.

They are told jews are chosen of god and some how gods in carneth(the old kike statement "To strike a jew is akin to striking God" thus we kill you". Funny good jews we are chosen of god or else we kill you nice people those jews Might is Right if you don't like us jews we kill you lul'd the jew.

Well funny enough these people are born to be non-jewish jewish people. What is chrsitianity communism with a tinsel of metaphysics. What is christianity being jewish without being jewish. Somehow these demoralized retards believe the jew is the greatest thing ever they are so hava nagilic that the hava nagila needs to played at bass boosted levels for the goyshkopfation processes.

In my personal opinion these people have never seen the Gods, don't know anything about their Gods, and never seen the civilization of the Gods. I think if one of these kosher non-kosher kosher cucks saw the Gods and what they do. It begs the question will they shatter and surrender and go "Okay teach me everything from the ground up" or "Would they somehow attack the Gods or get pist off at the Gods or do something to harm the Gods which in turn harms them cause harming the Gods is retarded".

So in simple terms these people have been demoralized. They are not SS they not NS they are simply kosher goyims of the enemy of the kikes who are kept under lock and key. It's almost like their freedom of studying NS has actually imprisoned them. In other words they entered the trap of the jews. They don't check the bait, nor trap, nor anything they blindly see Hitler or NS and go "Sheeb goyim" "Tob sheeb goyim harag". They are in essence like I said before non-kosher kosher cocksuckers.

Hitler said this, so we do this. When in reality Hitler never said that. Nazis hate homo, wait dumbass the only homos Hitler had a problem with were 8-10% of the gay and lesbian population whom were communist subverters and even then it begs the question of how many of the 8-10% eventually became NS or returned to society reeducated at a camp for their own benefit of being a proper German citizen or even combatant.

At the end of the day if people want a proper message on being a proper NS/SS. Is be firm, stand up for yourself, shut down their debates, use information they never heard of and use it against them(ex: the Army of Mankind website mourningtheancients) etc.etc.etc. Use information they never even heard of or bothered to research. It's akin to playing certain video games whereby you perform metagaming i.e. using advanced tactics and builds which are not being used to change the entire landscape of a game to which you change the meta and everyone copies you.

In other words by using knowledge you wreck'em. Don't allow them to gain a foothold rather play to crush.

At the end of the day I also gotta agree with Henu the Great. Spiritual warfare and focus on the diamonds in the rough. Extract the diamonds and let the rest falter unto their own stupidity.

Satanism/Nazism/Gentilism is not about being stupid or more specifically being a slave to kosher hymies i.e. goyim.

Rather your a God in training might as well use the less egotistical and non-hypocritical God in training. Rather than being a kike who is a God in carneth whose ego is so heightened they literally believe somehow being chosen by god is something special.

We Gentiles were chosen of God as well by Satan but he never stated take it to your head and grow your ego to magnanimous levels whereby you become an insufferable piece of shit.

Rather he took the high road it's something special as I found the Earth and other habitable planets a rarity I'm sure humanity is very special for the intriguing amount of life sustaining planets in our neck of the woods. But again I highly doubt Satan take this chosen of godness and explode it so high your just the only ultimate rather he probably went look further then that sure your special but don't make it all about yourself rather see it from the 300IQ position.

Either way it's nice to reach out to these groups but the only ones who bother to change themselves are the diamonds surrounded by the rough. Barring certain others groups and certain other organizations JoS has survived since 2002 which in internet terms is an eternity we still have 2002-2003 information which HP.Cobra mentioned new information. Our website is basically a blast from the past. Like my friend mentioned to me the old HTML1/2/3 websites those old cheapy websites like Geocities have a goldmine of information.

If these people do not wish to be anything other than jewish nazi goyim. Shut them down and make them see past the Forrest and trees.

Like Marilyn Manson stated in his song "They can't see the Forrest nor the trees and they can't smell their own shit on their knees".

Disinformation and fake information is the #1 job of the enemy. But when the truth is told and "blockchained" into reality or memed into reality, blockchaining the information then the enemy shits their pants as their narrative breaks down as your metagaming them with old, new, and advanced information use mental, physical, spiritual and technological information to destroy their narrative and never let the virus gain a foothold.

That part of Hitler and Himmler on homosexuality is epic. Do you have a reference or something ? I agree with all you said, very beautifully written

Osiris Silvio · Jun 18, 2021

Thuledragon666 said:
Osiris Silvio said:

Thuledragon666 said:

I was going to write a big ass comment but tbh let me just say you had a chat that had o9a content being posted, o9a apologists, and you were dangerously considering letting a jew stay in chat. You are talking about dialogue with the enemy and people who would rather be adversarial to their own people. Is Satan actually okay with us getting aquainted with jews? I honestly don't think so and the clergy if memory serves right actually warned us to not associate with o9a members. Calling the kettle black on a certain chat when yours is worse about informing people considering what is allowed as to mix up what satanism is. I am not sorry if we don't dialogue with the enemy of satan and our race as well as the enemies non jewish who is sworn against their own.

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I'm unsure how your logic works, but I am not at all responsible for the beliefs and convictions of people on my group, and I do not ban users just for having different convictions. I am only responsible for the content which I share and which has so far been exclusive to JoS and through which I seek to influence those with different convictions. Other than that, I will be only promoting exaggerated censorship as the Jews do with their monopolized communication platforms.

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Too long didn't read, was crap

You can keep o9a tob shitheads in your room as well as leather freaks but I am not rolling with that, the other chat has better adminship and keeps the spread of information to that of Jos and articles spitting truth. It don't quite matter that there is this huge number of dipshits that spew Jewish lies when we don't even waste our time with most of it, just delete and say it's not a debate channel/group and if they keep posting propaganda just mute or remove them. It's rather a good and nice chat that you are just pissy about because of what impression you have left towards some of us in that chat. Your chat that is, painting a pretty suspicious picture of you seeing what you are tolerating and not seeing as a problem. Again you can have edgelord o9a members in your chat and leather freaks too... Maybe a pinch of jews too. I will never be in your chat again and I never wanna be.

Now i realize that I am happy that i got rid of an obese bramble from my group.
It's like you're saying "too long, i cannot read more than 3 words bcz i have 3 briancells. All shit. Conform, conform, conform, otherwise you are suspicious and should be banned. Do not dare to think or be any different. Do not ask any question that the close-minded do not understand." Yeah, good luck with ur unintelligent conformity and censorship. And now please, im fed up with your twirling in circles of empty excuses and funny logic so do not answer or quote me anymore in any thread. Thank you.

Osiris Silvio · Jun 18, 2021

Thuledragon666 said:
Osiris Silvio said:

Thuledragon666 said:

I was going to write a big ass comment but tbh let me just say you had a chat that had o9a content being posted, o9a apologists, and you were dangerously considering letting a jew stay in chat. You are talking about dialogue with the enemy and people who would rather be adversarial to their own people. Is Satan actually okay with us getting aquainted with jews? I honestly don't think so and the clergy if memory serves right actually warned us to not associate with o9a members. Calling the kettle black on a certain chat when yours is worse about informing people considering what is allowed as to mix up what satanism is. I am not sorry if we don't dialogue with the enemy of satan and our race as well as the enemies non jewish who is sworn against their own.

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I'm unsure how your logic works, but I am not at all responsible for the beliefs and convictions of people on my group, and I do not ban users just for having different convictions. I am only responsible for the content which I share and which has so far been exclusive to JoS and through which I seek to influence those with different convictions. Other than that, I will be only promoting exaggerated censorship as the Jews do with their monopolized communication platforms.

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Too long didn't read, was crap

You can keep o9a tob shitheads in your room as well as leather freaks but I am not rolling with that, the other chat has better adminship and keeps the spread of information to that of Jos and articles spitting truth. It don't quite matter that there is this huge number of dipshits that spew Jewish lies when we don't even waste our time with most of it, just delete and say it's not a debate channel/group and if they keep posting propaganda just mute or remove them. It's rather a good and nice chat that you are just pissy about because of what impression you have left towards some of us in that chat. Your chat that is, painting a pretty suspicious picture of you seeing what you are tolerating and not seeing as a problem. Again you can have edgelord o9a members in your chat and leather freaks too... Maybe a pinch of jews too. I will never be in your chat again and I never wanna be.

Coming back one last time to this, for the sake of elucidation, this post was not created for you. I have been thinking for some time about tackling this issue after several clashes with NS and non-Satanists.
And I am not promoting dialogue with the enemy! This is your schizophrenic hallucination. I know that the Jews are masters of lies and endless debate. They are created to corrupt everything and ruin life on Earth. I am promoting dialogue especially with fellow Satanists and SS (if they are sane or not xian).

*** Do you know who did use to ban and block Satanists arbitrarily? Mageson. And I will not do it on my channel, nor will I create border lines for the freedom of thinking outside the box like the Catholic Inquisitions.
Everytime I shared anything about the RTRs on the channel of Inanna (whose pseudonym is an offence to our Goddess), I found that my messages got deleted and my account got banned. At first I thought they were the bots which for the proportion of the group are too numerous. Then again, I shared all the RTRs which I spent several hours to compile into one pdf when I noticed that the link on the website was broken, and again, for no reason, all my messages were deleted.
Then I began suspecting that the owner of the group is a jewess and I even thought of addressing this issue on this forum.
Actually I was not suspicious of being anything other than a JoS, and I'm enough knowledgeable that I was made an admin in the end. But when I shared something from the Protocols of Zion i was blocked at last. Because the probably Jewess who is for sure schizophrenic and who calls herself Inanna does not want anti-Jewish content on that group. Why, otherwise, would all my RTRs material get deleted? I give no damn at all. I am happy that I am out of that place because it is not psychologically healthy.
I was always happy with the JoS content, sharing some on my channel. The only 2 things that bothered me were getting all my messages deleted a few days after sharing anything related to the RTRs; and getting frequently cornered by neo-Nazi skinheads who relentlessly bullied me for defending homosexuality, that was after being already exhausted by the war on Gaza. They bullied me on and on and one of them had a quote of (Jesus the King...). After pushing all my buttons and making me lose my mind, they went on saying that I need a stronger aura and must not be triggered so easily. How would you feel if someone said that you should be burnt for being homosexual and then began sending you videos of Israel-made ISIS (the name of which offends our glorious Isis of Egypt) throwing innocent gay young men off the roof and seeing their heads getting smashed to the ground??
These were the reasons I hated that shithole of a group whose owner is , as i and many others believe, a Jewess.

During the last war on Gaza, I was instigating everyone to do the RTRs. This might have annoyed the Jewess Inanna who was looking for a reason to block a real SS. But you are too naive and shortsighted to notice these things.
I said that you 2 are schizophrenic, and I really mean it. You suspect things that are non-existent, and I'm completely convinced that you are delusional and hallucinate about things that do not exist in reality.
As for your attacking my group, first the topic of o9a is hardly ever mentioned. It is not my business to microscope the character and subconscious elements of the members to see who is worthy of the Jewcy obsession with banning and censorship. At the end, a Satanist woman who was new to the chat and was obviously confused was asking why the hatred for o9a. Since you know more than anyone about o9a, you could have provided some documents and explanations as to why o9a is Jewish, horrible, and is to be avoided. But being a schizophrenic weakling , you only hallucinated imaginary scenarios and accused me of being a member of something I have only recently known it existed, after labeling me as an Arab which shows an immature signs of prejudice.

As a last note, you speak like a petulant 3yo child. Grow up and stop getting glued at hallucinated notions. You can THANK me for literally sacrificing a big portion of my TIME EVERYDAY, to promote JoS and convince other Gentiles to join the Gentile spirituality known as Satanism. And I do this because I am confident that when enough people become real Satanists and SS, we will be able to destroy Pissrael and get rid of the Jewish control of the world.
Even this message is not meant for you, since I doubt that you will read a reply of more than three sentences or even three words. This is meant for anyone who has read your replies and think that I am promoting dialogue with the enemy or that I am suspicious as you hallucinate about me.

Henu the Great · Jun 18, 2021

To me it seems you have chosen your battles poorly. What use it is to promote JoS on an enemy platform, even your promotion of rtrs got cancelled. When you have such a conviction to do online warfare it's best to choose a platform where your message is heard by people. Most efficient way is to simply post stuff, and that's that. When someone genuienly has questions it's ok to answer or to direct them here. When you put your energy into fruitless posting, and let yourself be drained and affected by lower vibrational fools you have lost.

If I got this thing right then you have conversing with "NS" people of judaic values. Time wasted, in my opinion.

Anyone of such level plays no importance of any kind, not now, and not in the future.

I hope you better your game since it's an important part of our organisation.

Bible_Burner · Jun 18, 2021

In my opinion, time wasted going back and forth on the internet with people I don't know, who aren't SS is time better spent advancing or doing rtr's.

We are a tribal species and the internet magnifies this with these kinds of groups. You are literally attacking their identities when you bring up these points.

I mean, have you been paying attention to the US lately? People are getting fired from their jobs for not having the right opinions!

I'd say 2% of people on the internet are open to reason. I'd rather help people who are struggling on this path succeed than type back and forth into oblivion.

Gearshift · Jun 19, 2021

Henu the Great said:
To me it seems you have chosen your battles poorly. What use it is to promote JoS on an enemy platform, even your promotion of rtrs got cancelled. When you have such a conviction to do online warfare it's best to choose a platform where your message is heard by people. Most efficient way is to simply post stuff, and that's that. When someone genuienly has questions it's ok to answer or to direct them here. When you put your energy into fruitless posting, and let yourself be drained and affected by lower vibrational fools you have lost.

If I got this thing right then you have conversing with "NS" people of judaic values. Time wasted, in my opinion.

Anyone of such level plays no importance of any kind, not now, and not in the future.

I hope you better your game since it's an important part of our organisation.

Gotta agree with this. They were defeated before even the battle nor the war started. They were thumped from the very inception of the parental family trying to create new life i.e. reproduction.

Like I said your talking to people who believe Satan is a jewish terminology like Varg Vickerns. Your talking about people who literally believe everything is jewish in a Gentile fashion i.e. xtianity. Jews are bad so we LARP to somehow make them Gentilic jews and turn ourselves into jewish Gentiles.

It's like Hp.Cobra mentioned in "Final Answer - On Christian Anti-semitism".

And then people wonder why the jews control everything if everyone of those so-called Nazi groups are LARPing as jews. Then the people like ourselves wonder why the jews dominate and are so cutthroat that every single xtianized country has jews running them from top to bottom.

Might as well go for the shotgun approach or more specifically pop the diamonds from the rough and let the rest fall to the ground.

I have suspicion that when the Gods come lots of people are gonna hate them because they make you do work of any kind. I think people believe spirituality to sit on your ass and let rabbi yeshoua deal with all the stuff. I think it's greyficiation process, jesus I need sprite go open the fridge and get me some.

Xtianity = learned helplessness. Like I said they dropped out of the War before any conflict occurred.

Dahaarkan · Jun 19, 2021

Osiris Silvio said:
But dialogue in general among NS and others is also necessary.

It is not. Understand the difference between influence and control. We are at a point where we can influence things (and people), but we don't have full control. You can try to influence someone but you cannot control them towards the right path.

You can talk to someone but you can't make them listen.

You don't insist on dialogue with those without for the same reason you don't pursue dialogue with an ant. No matter what you say, it will just aimlessly wander until it stumbles into something that kills it.

Since you touched on freedom of speech, understand this too should have reasonable limits. Jews have corrupted this to an absolute extreme where it has become common place to openly mock leaders of the most powerful nations in the world.

Any sane political figure would put you in prison in response to mockery or slander. A man who allows himself to be openly mocked is a clown and when you have a clown leading a nation it becomes a circus.

When the right to freedom of speech is misused there must be consequences. Jews want no limits on this "right" so that they may openly spread their poisonous ideas and mentalities.

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