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Italy is in danger, any opinion?

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The worse happened in Italy thanks to our not-elected leftist (communist/super jewish) government, they accepted the so-called MES. If you do not know what it is it's a fund that should "help" you by giving some money, this is what happened to Greece when they accept the MES http://www.thecommentator.com/article/6001/has_the_troika_destroyed_greece. This is extremely terrifying and horrible, what the heck should we do?

HP's do you have any opinion on this? Do you think Italy will get through this? As much as I trust the RTR and what we are doing I'm definitely scared... :(
 
Basically what Italy is doing now is only an overlap of what the Leftist Socialist government of Jews did in many European countries, entering them immediately under financial supervision of the EU, in particular for money stealing and strangulating politicial control within said country, to centralize it on the hands of the EU.

This is basically something that is being done when a country has been ruined fiscally and many of these socialist types cannot find a way to fix anything because they need infinite refugee and they don't really care about the Nation.

Greece got destroyed easily financially because it's a small country with a small population. Spain also had a similar situation going. In regards to Italy, when the situation emerges and how everything has fallen in place, there will be no turning back, Italy will go through the tunnel but in the end they will be free.

Abusing other countries in history may have worked, abusing Italy will not work. This is probably a last ditch attempt because the EU understands that Italians are extremely fed up and now that it's time to "punish them" or tie them with perpetual debt in order to keep them in check.

I have to remind also that the major "Semi" National Socialist or hyper Nationalist parties, arose and became third in power in Greece because of the above. In Italy, given there is already momentum, Italians may actually get control in the end.

The EU is currently sowing all the seeds to it's own destruction, it is uncertain how much it will hold together, but especially how it handled the Co-Vid and the impossibility to deal with the financial aftermath of the whole crisis in Europe, will probably break it down on the most fundamental level. In the recent situation about Co-vid it was proven jewish based EU cannot be held together.
 
HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:
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The current leftist government got in power by kicking out the league(center-right party) in a deceitful way, many italians were very angry about this, this will hopefully be Italy's last leftie government.
 
HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:
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I have to say that most Italians are aware of the Mes and what is happening, this "socialists" (or better jews) LIED to everyone in television every day that they were not going to accept the MES but now they have accepted it, the oppositions denounced this and many Italians are aware, now a option I see is that many will start a civil war, this is a possibility that I'm earing. Hopefully, we can go through this...Italians are fed up with Europe and many are even asking to go out of it. I'm definitely scared but I know the Gods will protect me and who I love and I have faith in the Final RTR.
 
HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:
Basically what Italy is doing now is only an overlap of what the Leftist Socialist government of Jews did in many European countries, entering them immediately under financial supervision of the EU, in particular for money stealing and strangulating politicial control within said country, to centralize it on the hands of the EU.

This is basically something that is being done when a country has been ruined fiscally and many of these socialist types cannot find a way to fix anything because they need infinite refugee and they don't really care about the Nation.

Greece got destroyed easily financially because it's a small country with a small population. Spain also had a similar situation going. In regards to Italy, when the situation emerges and how everything has fallen in place, there will be no turning back, Italy will go through the tunnel but in the end they will be free.

Abusing other countries in history may have worked, abusing Italy will not work. This is probably a last ditch attempt because the EU understands that Italians are extremely fed up and now that it's time to "punish them" or tie them with perpetual debt in order to keep them in check.

I have to remind also that the major "Semi" National Socialist or hyper Nationalist parties, arose and became third in power in Greece because of the above. In Italy, given there is already momentum, Italians may actually get control in the end.

The EU is currently sowing all the seeds to it's own destruction, it is uncertain how much it will hold together, but especially how it handled the Co-Vid and the impossibility to deal with the financial aftermath of the whole crisis in Europe, will probably break it down on the most fundamental level. In the recent situation about Co-vid it was proven jewish based EU cannot be held together.
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+ the facts that 53% of Italians want to leave either Eurozone or the EU. 40% to leave the EU AND the Eurozone. And only 41%(brainwashed idiots) wanting to stay in the EU.
 
luis said:
The worse happened in Italy thanks to our not-elected leftist (communist/super jewish) government, they accepted the so-called MES. If you do not know what it is it's a fund that should "help" you by giving some money, this is what happened to Greece when they accept the MES http://www.thecommentator.com/article/6001/has_the_troika_destroyed_greece. This is extremely terrifying and horrible, what the heck should we do?

HP's do you have any opinion on this? Do you think Italy will get through this? As much as I trust the RTR and what we are doing I'm definitely scared... :(
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In the end only so many measures can be taken on the enemies side before they have no options left to choose from to preserve their garbage. From there it is the people that take the control and even then this arises from unrest against corrupt orders.

I have full faith that in the harshest of times ahead many people will pull through in ways the enemy could not have predicted. You forget that even outsiders are still gentiles of our gods deep within their souls whether they know it or not. Our own nature will prevail and rise to the surface as the artificial constructs of the enemy reveals the severe contrasting differences. Not everybody needs to be told the truth to wake up, nor do they all need the RTR to wake up, sometimes simply seeing the truth will shatter the bindings entirely.

From there realization takes over. Have faith in our cause, faith in our people, faith in our planet and have faith in our gods. If there's one thing humans have been defined as throughout the ages even without the concept of spirituality and religion, it's that by nature we are stubborn and determined.
 
luis said:
HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:
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I have to say that most Italians are aware of the Mes and what is happening, this "socialists" (or better jews) LIED to everyone in television every day that they were not going to accept the MES but now they have accepted it, the oppositions denounced this and many Italians are aware, now a option I see is that many will start a civil war, this is a possibility that I'm earing. Hopefully, we can go through this...Italians are fed up with Europe and many are even asking to go out of it. I'm definitely scared but I know the Gods will protect me and who I love and I have faith in the Final RTR.
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This may be dark news but it sounds mostly like good news, there is no freedom without fighting for it, and yes, most definitely, this is all a plot because the enemy knows the Italians are drifting out of control permanently now. This is why they put "financial supervision" over Italy, in an attempt to take it down. But with everything going on energetically this will backfire.

Do not be worried the Gods will protect as always, make sure to do what is required, and stay strong. This would not be happening if the Italians weren't already waking up en masse.
 
luis said:
The worse happened in Italy thanks to our not-elected leftist (communist/super jewish) government, they accepted the so-called MES. If you do not know what it is it's a fund that should "help" you by giving some money, this is what happened to Greece when they accept the MES http://www.thecommentator.com/article/6001/has_the_troika_destroyed_greece. This is extremely terrifying and horrible, what the heck should we do?
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I am watching one guy who post weekly live streams. He has a good understanding of the financial domain and is very open minded and aware of the jews and what they are doing. He was saying about Italy that they will have no choice but return to their traditional currency and leave EU after this, if they don't get money from EU to solve the financial issues, which apparently Germany and the other EU powers do not agree with. He was saying that by returning to traditional currency, Italians will have like half of the buying power that they have now with euro, but they will have no choice if they don't get probably hundreds of billions from EU.
A little off-topic, he was saying that France and Spain are exactly in the same situation. A collapse of EU is slowly taking shape
 
Aquarius said:
HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:
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The current leftist government got in power by kicking out the league(center-right party) in a deceitful way, many italians were very angry about this, this will hopefully be Italy's last leftie government.
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I forgot to say that the Left exposed themself quite heavily this time around, I really doubt they will ever be elected. League, in my opinion, is quite bad, remember that some weeks ago they said they wanted Draghi as the Republic President or as a Prime Minister, that super looking jew and many other stupid things, they are definitely far less bad than the Democratic Party and any other leftist but they are not the best. Fratelli D'Italy is far better and they showed it a lot right now. They say very logical things and they never did mistakes. They may not be the best but they are the best we have now.
 
HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:
luis said:
HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:
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I have to say that most Italians are aware of the Mes and what is happening, this "socialists" (or better jews) LIED to everyone in television every day that they were not going to accept the MES but now they have accepted it, the oppositions denounced this and many Italians are aware, now a option I see is that many will start a civil war, this is a possibility that I'm earing. Hopefully, we can go through this...Italians are fed up with Europe and many are even asking to go out of it. I'm definitely scared but I know the Gods will protect me and who I love and I have faith in the Final RTR.
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This may be dark news but it sounds mostly like good news, there is no freedom without fighting for it, and yes, most definitely, this is all a plot because the enemy knows the Italians are drifting out of control permanently now. This is why they put "financial supervision" over Italy, in an attempt to take it down. But with everything going on energetically this will backfire.

Do not be worried the Gods will protect as always, make sure to do what is required, and stay strong. This would not be happening if the Italians weren't already waking up en masse.
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Thank you, I forgot to add that this is the "Light Mes" which means the bad things will not happen right now but maybe after some months, weeks or even up to a year. Hopefully, this will give us the time to fight this and get a good government!
 
The Alchemist7 said:
luis said:
The worse happened in Italy thanks to our not-elected leftist (communist/super jewish) government, they accepted the so-called MES. If you do not know what it is it's a fund that should "help" you by giving some money, this is what happened to Greece when they accept the MES http://www.thecommentator.com/article/6001/has_the_troika_destroyed_greece. This is extremely terrifying and horrible, what the heck should we do?
Click to expand...
I am watching one guy who post weekly live streams. He has a good understanding of the financial domain and is very open minded and aware of the jews and what they are doing. He was saying about Italy that they will have no choice but return to their traditional currency and leave EU after this, if they don't get money from EU to solve the financial issues, which apparently Germany and the other EU powers do not agree with. He was saying that by returning to traditional currency, Italians will have like half of the buying power that they have now with euro, but they will have no choice if they don't get probably hundreds of billions from EU.
A little off-topic, he was saying that France and Spain are exactly in the same situation. A collapse of EU is slowly taking shape
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Yep, I agree with this guy. I'm pretty sure Europe will collapse after this situation.
 
Personally, I was in complete shock from Athens when I ended up there for two months in language courses. Thought to move there from depressed Russia. But it turned out that there are countries on this planet where you can’t even eat normally and use public transport, as there are constant strikes. And some areas in the center are like a horror movie because of drug addicts and migrants and the homeless. And besides, there’s also a bunch of anarchists who smash universities. Antifa in the best spirit of the commie terrorists. Now I understand that Vologda is not the worst place on the planet. In my opinion, the best option is to exit the EU using the example of Great Britain, but for this it is necessary at least to start mass protests demanding a referendum. I have a question for any of the high priests and priestesses. Were there Jews in the army of the Third Reich who consciously rejected themselves from their fellow tribesmen and sincerely wanted to fight for the future of the planet? For me it is very difficult, I can not find this information anywhere. Perhaps I want to believe that some of them are capable of feat. In our Russian province, everything is quite calm, there is quarantine, but people still walk in the streets and run in the stadium, and the shops have food as usual. This is so in Russian, no one is afraid of anything except the old generation. But in large cities it’s more serious, they need a pass to go out. I would really like to know about the Antichrist. There is at least approximate information about when he will come. Thank you for your educational work. I'v been with you for several years of active search, but only know i understand how right you are. My father cabbalist have 1/2 Jewish blood and he totally in laitman's shit. But i never support him, i absolutely different, because my mother non-jewish. I hate enemy and wonna be with you, i chose the side of the Empire of Orion.
 
Kailas666satanama said:
Personally, I was in complete shock from Athens when I ended up there for two months in language courses. Thought to move there from depressed Russia. But it turned out that there are countries on this planet where you can’t even eat normally and use public transport, as there are constant strikes. And some areas in the center are like a horror movie because of drug addicts and migrants and the homeless. And besides, there’s also a bunch of anarchists who smash universities. Antifa in the best spirit of the commie terrorists. Now I understand that Vologda is not the worst place on the planet. In my opinion, the best option is to exit the EU using the example of Great Britain, but for this it is necessary at least to start mass protests demanding a referendum. I have a question for any of the high priests and priestesses. Were there Jews in the army of the Third Reich who consciously rejected themselves from their fellow tribesmen and sincerely wanted to fight for the future of the planet? For me it is very difficult, I can not find this information anywhere. Perhaps I want to believe that some of them are capable of feat. In our Russian province, everything is quite calm, there is quarantine, but people still walk in the streets and run in the stadium, and the shops have food as usual. This is so in Russian, no one is afraid of anything except the old generation. But in large cities it’s more serious, they need a pass to go out. I would really like to know about the Antichrist. There is at least approximate information about when he will come. Thank you for your educational work. I'v been with you for several years of active search, but only know i understand how right you are. My father cabbalist have 1/2 Jewish blood and he totally in laitman's shit. But i never support him, i absolutely different, because my mother non-jewish. I hate enemy and wonna be with you, i chose the side of the Empire of Orion.
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You are a disgusting jew, you are not connected to Satan in any way and you will never be accepted by him, you are a parassite, literally a virus and you will end up like all other jews.
 
Kailas666satanama said:
My father cabbalist have 1/2 Jewish blood and he totally in laitman's shit. But i never support him, i absolutely different, because my mother non-jewish. I hate enemy and wonna be with you, i chose the side of the Empire of Orion.
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As far as I know, even with 1/16 of jew DNA, your soul is jew, meaning you ARE jew.
In that case, I don't want to waste my time insulting a lizard, so I'll just reply with: do the Final RTR.
It is the solution in any case, whether you're a stinky reptilian (leading you to death) or a Gentile (leading you to spiritual advancement). In any case, if you do the Final RTR you will do a good thing for humanity.
I even realize that if you are a jew, you'd probably never do the Final RTR, so maybe I'm still wasting my time.
 
@ luis

hello luis. I had replied to your topic on the Italian forum, but the post has not yet been approved.

In reality what has happened so far is that the European Council has approved the mes not Italy.

This means that for now, Europe has only made the funds available.

It is up to each country through parliament to decide whether to use the mes.

unfortunately I think Italy will use it.

but this has not happened yet.

I gave more details on the Italian forum, I can't explain it here my English doesn't allow me
 
SS66610888 said:
@ luis

hello luis. I had replied to your topic on the Italian forum, but the post has not yet been approved.

In reality what has happened so far is that the European Council has approved the mes not Italy.

This means that for now, Europe has only made the funds available.

It is up to each country through parliament to decide whether to use the mes.

unfortunately I think Italy will use it.

but this has not happened yet.

I gave more details on the Italian forum, I can't explain it here my English doesn't allow me
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Italy did choose it, here is the video from Fratelli D'Italia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0VvRD-FxUk

La buona notizia è che questo che hanno scelto è chiamato Mes Light che significa che la politica non ci verra commissionata dalla Troika subito ma solo dopo un anno. Questo ci da un po di tempo per reaggire e magari per togliere questo governo e metterne uno migliore. Non so se ci sono altre condizioni che prevedono una riduzzione di tempo, la Meloni ha detto che se gli spread si alzano per esempio e abbiamo solo il Mes saremmo costretti ad accederci e quindi ci commissionano la politica come in Grecia. Spero tanto che non arriveremo a questo ma è decisamente preoccupante :(
 
The most obvious thing you should do is not take a job that relies on government pension and social security in the latter half of your life
 
luis said:
SS66610888 said:
@ luis


I gave more details on the Italian forum, I can't explain it here my English doesn't allow me
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Italy did choose it, here is the video from Fratelli D'Italia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0VvRD-FxUk

La buona notizia è che questo che hanno scelto è chiamato Mes Light che significa che la politica non ci verra commissionata dalla Troika subito ma solo dopo un anno. Questo ci da un po di tempo per reaggire e magari per togliere questo governo e metterne uno migliore. Non so se ci sono altre condizioni che prevedono una riduzzione di tempo, la Meloni ha detto che se gli spread si alzano per esempio e abbiamo solo il Mes saremmo costretti ad accederci e quindi ci commissionano la politica come in Grecia. Spero tanto che non arriveremo a questo ma è decisamente preoccupante :(
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No luis, Italy has not approved the mes.

I had already posted that video of meloni

https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=39497#p159630
this video, does not refer to the approval of the mes.

but to the vote of pd and m5s against the proposal of the meloni, which asked to approve a law, which prohibited in all cases from accepting the mes.

you know Italian so you should hear what that video says.


Do not continue tell people that the mes has been approved in italy, I understand your panic, but I have explained in detail here
https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=39497
all the steps to access the mes,I did that post on purpose to avoid confusion.
I don't want to be controversial, but don't spread misinformation, it's not like you
 
SS66610888 said:
luis said:
SS66610888 said:
@ luis


I gave more details on the Italian forum, I can't explain it here my English doesn't allow me
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Italy did choose it, here is the video from Fratelli D'Italia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0VvRD-FxUk

La buona notizia è che questo che hanno scelto è chiamato Mes Light che significa che la politica non ci verra commissionata dalla Troika subito ma solo dopo un anno. Questo ci da un po di tempo per reaggire e magari per togliere questo governo e metterne uno migliore. Non so se ci sono altre condizioni che prevedono una riduzzione di tempo, la Meloni ha detto che se gli spread si alzano per esempio e abbiamo solo il Mes saremmo costretti ad accederci e quindi ci commissionano la politica come in Grecia. Spero tanto che non arriveremo a questo ma è decisamente preoccupante :(
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No luis, Italy has not approved the mes.

I had already posted that video of meloni

https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=39497#p159630
this video, does not refer to the approval of the mes.

but to the vote of pd and m5s against the proposal of the meloni, which asked to approve a law, which prohibited in all cases from accepting the mes.

you know Italian so you should hear what that video says.


Do not continue tell people that the mes has been approved in italy, I understand your panic, but I have explained in detail here
https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=39497
all the steps to access the mes,I did that post on purpose to avoid confusion.
I don't want to be controversial, but don't spread misinformation, it's not like you
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Comunque quando dico che il Mes è stato approvato intendo dire che siamo al 90% vicino se continueremo ad avere questo governo. Il ministro Gualtieri a dato l'ok ad un documento che dice che l'Italia è interessata ad accedere al Mes, a quello "light" per adesso che poi si trasformerà in quello con la Troika dopo un po' di tempo. Non è mia intenzione fare disinformazione.

Somehow in english i think May have said It not in the right way. But you are right, it's not now approved but the government said "yes" to it three time. First the economic minister Gualtieri gived is Okay to a document where it's wrote that Italy would like to accept the Mes, then they voted in the Parlament and the magiority said Yes and then Conte the 23th did gived is okay for it. This does not mean we have it now but with this government it will come.
 
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