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Revenge after many years

Postby WiseDragon » Tue Dec 24, 2019 9:30 am

I have Mars in Scorpio so i am a vindictive person and when i hate someone i hate him/her with all my soul and with a lot of intensity. Some people have harmed me in the past, when i was not even a Satanist. I haven't seen them for some time and i think i never will. But i still hate them, i can feel the fire in my guts when i think of them. But as I said i cannot see them so even if i do a spell i can't see their life being fucked up and shit like that. Also it was some time ago, should I let it go or you think that i should punish them, even to feel better?

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Re: Revenge after many years

Postby FancyMancy » Tue Dec 24, 2019 6:25 pm

Satan stands for justice. You may do a working to be able to see them again, but not to interact with them, if this is not too uncomfortable for you; or perhaps if it is, then you can use that in the follow-up workings against them. You can use anger and hatred, and whatever else, as fuel, with your emotions and feelings used so as to increase the effectiveness of the workings. If it is more than one person, then you need to go workings on them individually.
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Re: Revenge after many years

Postby Shael » Tue Dec 24, 2019 6:54 pm

WiseDragon wrote:I have Mars in Scorpio so i am a vindictive person and when i hate someone i hate him/her with all my soul and with a lot of intensity. Some people have harmed me in the past, when i was not even a Satanist. I haven't seen them for some time and i think i never will. But i still hate them, i can feel the fire in my guts when i think of them. But as I said i cannot see them so even if i do a spell i can't see their life being fucked up and shit like that. Also it was some time ago, should I let it go or you think that i should punish them, even to feel better?
Hmmmm it's really up to you. You could do a 9-day revenge spell or something, to get your revenge without wasting 40 full days on that person. It should make you feel better while also not taking tons of your time.
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Re: Revenge after many years

Postby Ghost in the Machine » Wed Dec 25, 2019 2:12 am

WiseDragon wrote:I have Mars in Scorpio so i am a vindictive person and when i hate someone i hate him/her with all my soul and with a lot of intensity. Some people have harmed me in the past, when i was not even a Satanist. I haven't seen them for some time and i think i never will. But i still hate them, i can feel the fire in my guts when i think of them. But as I said i cannot see them so even if i do a spell i can't see their life being fucked up and shit like that. Also it was some time ago, should I let it go or you think that i should punish them, even to feel better?


Please be careful with this hatred, the emotional energies can be self-destructive if you do not vent them out, so yes definitely find means of revenge if this is what you require. You don't even need to do a real working or be able to see them. If you can visualize them in some way, knowing that the person you are visualizing is that person, then the energy will automatically redirect to the actual individual.

I call these castes, in that they are vessels of the actual thing that makes a mimicry for you to direct energy to that thing, and it's similar to how a poppet works. You associate that thing with the individual, object, whatever, and when you direct energy to it with intent belief that it actually IS that thing, the energy will automatically go to the real deal. This is why when you visualize your chakras, whether you visualize them in your body, floating in a forest, in the sky, in a castle, on an altar, or whatever you visualize, the energy will still direct and go to the actual chakra, because that is the associated connection you made through intent and belief, that the caste you made in visualization is the chakra, so the energy will go straight to the actual chakra in your body/soul as a result.

Just visualize these individuals and visualize them in whatever way you want to vent your anger and hatred. Imagine you are torturing them, visualize them burning in fire and screaming in agony, visualize them dead in the gutter or being murdered or suffering in whatever way you want them to suffer in the most brutal fashion you desire. And this isn't just mindless mental imagery, with this kind of focus and along with the negative energy being sent through your anger and hatred, you are spiritually attacking them this way and programming that energy to actually make such suffering happen to the individual. Though it would of course take time to actually manifest like any working would, but it's still something. I've actually brought harm and misfortune to people this way alone without an actual official working or even using any runes, just raw anger and hatred and visual intent and focus in their suffering.

I hope this helps.
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Re: Revenge after many years

Postby Gear88 » Thu Dec 26, 2019 12:37 am

Ghost in the Machine wrote:...mental banefulness...


Very interesting and very correct I believe it might have been you who mentioned the whole forest chakra thing in other words visualizing the charka in whatever location and the energy still goes probably like 6 months ago.

Anyways as someone who is vengeful and wants revenge or sees things to such nature. I've always felt weird about performing black magick, not because I'm against it. But because the fact of the matter is "How the hell do I do a ritual on someone if the event already occurred and when am I gonna find privacy to do it plus the event already occurred the feelings and emotions had wanned". For example there is this off-duty police officer, a real asshole of a person, who got me arrested. Back in '12, I suffered my mental health crisis and a paddy wagon van along with like 5 police cars showed up. Basically like a swat team and I got arrested for throwing a punch at him during a blacked out scenario whereby I wasn't in control of my body. The proper thing that should have happened was he calls in ONE single police officer he investigates speaks to my family and then decides it's probably a good idea to contact either a ambulance or a crisis unit and take me somewhere. Not storm the house like it's some terrorist inside. He comes by to his families house from time to time and I always wanted to black magick him.

Funny like that saying goes someone does a big crime nothing happens, the slightest smallest crime occurs and half the police force is after you.

Anyways the arrest was kinda blessing in disguise as I received assistance from it due to the severity of the illness and the events that occurred the assistance was expedited.

But here I sit 2019, 7 years, and I still feel the revenge. I've always felt like black magick required deep dedication, deep spiritual advancement, and your statements make it seem like simply visualize as best as possible in a focused manner works. Which is funny because like I said I thought it required a deep commitment.

But your statements also seem weird in that as someone with a dark militaristic mind I do visualize a lot of stuff like that. And it comes to the question of whether it's me detecting it in the air from others or curses or something or if it's just me.

Am I performing spiritual warfare all the time? I know an unfocused mind doesn't do much but is it possible that it's all in our heads. Pardon the kinda judiac joke that jews state it's in your imagination goy. But I guess what I'm trying to state is "WHAT IS spiritual warfare?"

Is it just a mental thing with augmentations(tools to direct)?

Sorry if these questions sound ignorant and stupid from someone dedicated since 2003 so nearing 17 years now this coming April. But I guess I never felt like I was in a spiritual warfare, it just seemed like normal thinking, everything done was just normal stuff.

Is it possible my normalization of such things contribute to such a shallow understanding? Not trying to call myself stupid obviously but I guess if K.I.S.S.; keep it simple stupid. Is it possible I just normalize it.

Obviously like you said it's not just mere mindless mental imagery. But a focused action, non-the less, but non-the less your statement on getting the revenge is important cause these emotions are self-destructive. What if you kinda have become self-destructed already?

What if you destroy a lot but don't create or if you create it's greatly difficult?

I sound like I'm exaggerating and perhaps I am but non-the less as a angry soul I'm guess I've had my fair share of relishing on my own poison.
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Re: Revenge after many years

Postby Aldrick Strickland » Thu Dec 26, 2019 1:42 am

WiseDragon wrote:I have Mars in Scorpio so i am a vindictive person and when i hate someone i hate him/her with all my soul and with a lot of intensity. Some people have harmed me in the past, when i was not even a Satanist. I haven't seen them for some time and i think i never will. But i still hate them, i can feel the fire in my guts when i think of them. But as I said i cannot see them so even if i do a spell i can't see their life being fucked up and shit like that. Also it was some time ago, should I let it go or you think that i should punish them, even to feel better?


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Re: Revenge after many years

Postby Ghost in the Machine » Thu Dec 26, 2019 2:10 am

Gear88 wrote:
Ghost in the Machine wrote:...mental banefulness...


.... "WHAT IS spiritual warfare?" ....


Spiritual Warfare for me, is just using the energies and means available to you to bring harm to your enemies in battle. It's no different than picking up a weapon and fighting with it, it's there, so you use it. Black Magick is as simply accessible and integrated as White Magick is, all aspects are just energy that you direct and control, there is no special seperation other than what defines them. Black Magick is negative or hostile used to insight negativity and such, White Magick is positive, used for positive things and what not. The only differentiation of energy that decides which one you are doing is how you utilize it.

Take the colours for example, let's saaay, Red. Red coloured energy can be used to incite anger, bloodshed, accidents, violence, hatred, war, anarchy, these are it's negative traits when you apply them, and when you apply these negative traits to incite negative means, say on an enemy for example, then suddenly that's not just magick, that's Black Magick which is defined as a category of magick USEAGE that caters to negative incantations.

Now Red can also incite strength, courage, passionate love, will-power, determination, energy, self-confidence. These are the positive traits of the colour, and when applied for positive USE, then suddenly what you're doing is called White Magick of which is defined as the use of positive incantations for positive means.

White Magick and Black Magic are not divided by any sense other than what they define the specific usage of magick or working you are doing. There is no special difference when using Black Magick compared to White Magick other than it can be dangerous if one is not confident and skilled enough in their capabilities. It can be done casually, or intensely with a direct and focused working, much like White Magick. Casually breathing in white-gold energy to empower yourself vs casually directing grey energy into another individual for revenge. And doing a full-fledged focused working to heal a disease in your body with White Magick vs doing a full-fledged focused working to GIVE a disease to an enemy with Black Magick.

When you focus and delve too deeply into negative things for too long, you are connecting yourself with it as you form a kind of bond, those energy links that attach to you. You don't want to do that with negative energies or scenarios. For example, I have a catering to darkness, 'evil' things and feel a distinct comfort with dark energies, grey, black darkness, death, whatever, I like graveyards and stuff and death symbolism, grim reaper, you name it; but I also remain aware to keep this interest objective, and as much as I want to embrace and be 'part' of it somehow and bring it into my soul because of this connection (likely due to Saturn) I have to ensure by all means that I don't. It sucks and feels like I'm missing something but I exact discipline because it HAS harmed me in the past doing this and brought misfortune upon me. I still like it and feel that comfort with it, but I ensure it stays outside of myself and that I am to be aware specifically what my thought patterns are.

If you keep visualizing and thinking of murdering people frequently for example, or wondering what it's like to kill someone all the time and putting yourself in that scene to 'test' it, chances are you'll end up in a scenario eventually where you actually end up killing someone whether by accident or on purpose and you'll severely regret it, not only causing a massive blockage and hangup in your soul but also end up in jail. Never visualize YOURSELF involved or in any scenario, visual, focus or whatever with negative energy and negative energy caterings, as yes... it is self-destructive. Control objectivity and evocation appropriately and be aware of yourself in regards to this.

Here's another example of self-destructive caterings. You see in my past-life as a pagan knight in the Knights Templar, I was tortured to death, that was normal for us as "heretics". And in this life-time, that has been manifested as a sexual fetish, I'm very masochistic and find sexual delight in being harmed or fantasizing about being harmed/tortured. This. is. bad. And I have to discipline myself every time to control it and shut it out because when one fantasizes about such things, they bring it to them. It was once revealed to me the reasoning that such things develop as sexual fetishes in a life-time and it was revealed out of no where. It's been experimented and studied that fear and lust can interchange with one another on a psychological level, and everything physical reflects on the astral as well, they are mirrors of one another, so of course this interchange also responds as energy or a trait within the soul, and in the medieval era everybody greatly feared torture, and no doubt I was absolutely petrified and consumed with utter terror and fear while being tortured. I also was very likely bound up of course while being tortured because I also like bondage and being tied up, again as a sexual fetish. So I guess this is also an answer to people's questions that yes, sexual fetishes DO develop from a past-life and it could be from a harmful source too.

Anyways, in regards to natural dark and malicious caterings... I just vent all of it on the enemy and thoroughly enjoy inflicting every negative aspect I can on them. The enemy is where you can let loose these caterings and natural viciousness in a healthy way. I have such a grand time doing RTRs and visualizing dead jews piled up to the sky or their bodies just lying every where in the most gruesome imagery I can come up with. I'll visualize greys crashing their ships and being split apart with serrated metal, I'll visualize the entire reptiloid race becoming extinct, their guts spilled everywhere, their souls torn apart into nonexistence, you name it, I go all out, I love it, it's such a wicked delight, I hope someday to actually do it personally to them.

Yes, you are programming and directing things on the astral when you do all of this and it does have the potential to definitely manifest, that is why one must be careful and aware of what they are really doing. And in regards to destroying a lot and creating little, you excel naturally where you excel naturally. But you need to find strength and power in both, it's been stated on the website that one shouldn't focus on only White Magick, as you advance you'll eventually need to learn how to use Black Magick. This is the same idea when your main focus is Black Magick, you need to learn and strengthen your use of White Magick as well, you shouldn't atrophy or be weak in either as you advance. I make a point of keeping up with my skills and uses of White Magick, building protective auras, manipulating white-gold energy, doing lots of positive workings that help me just for the sake of it.

Because if you focus on darkness all the time and only darkness...


That's all you'll see.
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Re: Revenge after many years

Postby Narancia » Thu Dec 26, 2019 2:35 pm

Actually Idk how to use a forum, sorry.. but I need help to make 2 altars for Beelzebub and Azazel.. can someone please help me to make them in the right way?

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Re: Revenge after many years

Postby Narancia » Thu Dec 26, 2019 2:45 pm

Actually Idk how to use a forum, sorry.. but I need help to make 2 altars for Beelzebub and Azazel.. can someone please help me to make them in the right way?

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Re: Revenge after many years

Postby Gear88 » Thu Dec 26, 2019 10:54 pm

Ghost in the Machine wrote:...wow that was deep...


Thank you GitM, but unfortunately I think the damage was done already for a long time.

I will admit as a person who is VERY psychological i.e. a mental brain person. Someone who cannot turn off their brain and spends a considerable amount of time thinking. I literally in school tuned off school I was just in my own world. Most of my thoughts were WW2, Alternative history scenarios again mostly relating to WW2, sexual stuff funny though I never thought much about myself mostly a pornographic mindset of thinking about sex but surprisingly not in a POV manner of myself interacting, and the other would be thinking about killing and creating destructive events and whatnot. I guess I always since childhood had a low opinion of myself or non-existent opinion of myself.

But here I am years later since those events passed gladly non of the manifested. But here I am and seems like nothing has happened in my life. It's probably one of the reasons why yes magick exists it's a shortcut method but it never worked. I'm not saying I'm leaving the JoS or the JoS is wrong, but the thought that popped into my head during the week or so of reading the JoS back when I was 12 years old. My thought was "If I do this dedication, I better not end up the same years later".

Funny enough I'm currently nearing 30 and nothing has ever happened. I'm still the same exact person I was since 6 or 7 years old when my mind hardened usually the first waxing Saturn if I'm not mistaken.

So at this point in time I think I delved so deeply into negative side of life that it clouds me from everything. Like Ussop from One piece said fighting the girl who induced negativity "I'm just a naturally negative person".

And funny enough once I saw that episode and heard him say it. I said "Aha that's me down to a T".

I just can't help but think negative stuff. Which is funny my obsession with warfare and guns and whatnot because just this 24th having to celebrate with my family cause of xtian bullshit everyone has. I held and cocked(don't worry magazine was removed) my first pistol a Smith and Wesson 245T pistol I believe that's what it said surprisingly light except for the metal slide, the polymer grip made it light but funny enough the gun felt cheap.

I will admit I recall in recent times a blog mentioning an astrological aspect of myself Mercury-Pluto aspect the guy called it the X-ray cause you can not literally but mentally spy on people and funny enough it said some interesting things that I've observed such as peering too much into the darkside and seeing the nastiness of people. It's similar to what he said focusing too much on the hate of confusion and not accepting people in your life who just wish to love you but due to your suspicions and negativity it clouds you.

Either way GitM I'm not an easy person to deal with. I feel like there is a huge conflict within me that is never gonna be solved and yet I don't know what that is. It's like for example I'm a Satanist and yet holiday xtian music pops into my head or something like praise jesus or jesus christ words pop into my head. I have read that it's possible that it might be psychic emanations from others or perhaps the enemy E.T. always pumping that shit in the air and people picking up on it.

But in the end the more I age the less I feel Satanic. In fact I've stated before I feel like a xtian-Satanist and I have mentioned my admiration of National Socialism. But the religious or spiritual side is literally non-existent.

I appreciate your comments you've helped me out quite a bit kinda like Jack, your wording on spiritual black/white respects is spectacular. But I just can't seem to solve my issues.

Anyways thanks.
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Re: Revenge after many years

Postby Ghost in the Machine » Fri Dec 27, 2019 8:28 pm

Gear88 wrote:
Ghost in the Machine wrote:...wow that was deep...


Thank you GitM, but unfortunately I think the damage was done already for a long time.

I will admit as a person who is VERY psychological i.e. a mental brain person. Someone who cannot turn off their brain and spends a considerable amount of time thinking. I literally in school tuned off school I was just in my own world. Most of my thoughts were WW2, Alternative history scenarios again mostly relating to WW2, sexual stuff funny though I never thought much about myself mostly a pornographic mindset of thinking about sex but surprisingly not in a POV manner of myself interacting, and the other would be thinking about killing and creating destructive events and whatnot. I guess I always since childhood had a low opinion of myself or non-existent opinion of myself.

But here I am years later since those events passed gladly non of the manifested. But here I am and seems like nothing has happened in my life. It's probably one of the reasons why yes magick exists it's a shortcut method but it never worked. I'm not saying I'm leaving the JoS or the JoS is wrong, but the thought that popped into my head during the week or so of reading the JoS back when I was 12 years old. My thought was "If I do this dedication, I better not end up the same years later".

Funny enough I'm currently nearing 30 and nothing has ever happened. I'm still the same exact person I was since 6 or 7 years old when my mind hardened usually the first waxing Saturn if I'm not mistaken.

So at this point in time I think I delved so deeply into negative side of life that it clouds me from everything. Like Ussop from One piece said fighting the girl who induced negativity "I'm just a naturally negative person".

And funny enough once I saw that episode and heard him say it. I said "Aha that's me down to a T".

I just can't help but think negative stuff. Which is funny my obsession with warfare and guns and whatnot because just this 24th having to celebrate with my family cause of xtian bullshit everyone has. I held and cocked(don't worry magazine was removed) my first pistol a Smith and Wesson 245T pistol I believe that's what it said surprisingly light except for the metal slide, the polymer grip made it light but funny enough the gun felt cheap.

I will admit I recall in recent times a blog mentioning an astrological aspect of myself Mercury-Pluto aspect the guy called it the X-ray cause you can not literally but mentally spy on people and funny enough it said some interesting things that I've observed such as peering too much into the darkside and seeing the nastiness of people. It's similar to what he said focusing too much on the hate of confusion and not accepting people in your life who just wish to love you but due to your suspicions and negativity it clouds you.

Either way GitM I'm not an easy person to deal with. I feel like there is a huge conflict within me that is never gonna be solved and yet I don't know what that is. It's like for example I'm a Satanist and yet holiday xtian music pops into my head or something like praise jesus or jesus christ words pop into my head. I have read that it's possible that it might be psychic emanations from others or perhaps the enemy E.T. always pumping that shit in the air and people picking up on it.

But in the end the more I age the less I feel Satanic. In fact I've stated before I feel like a xtian-Satanist and I have mentioned my admiration of National Socialism. But the religious or spiritual side is literally non-existent.

I appreciate your comments you've helped me out quite a bit kinda like Jack, your wording on spiritual black/white respects is spectacular. But I just can't seem to solve my issues.

Anyways thanks.


Thinking you're too far gone is utter bullshit. The only difference in how 'deep' you get into something is how long it will take and how much effort to get out of it you will have to do. It took me 5 whole years to cut away that negative shit I was into like murder, serial killers, corrupting innocents and shit from my soul and clean it out and separate it out of me to where I am now with full awareness and control and that thinking of that kind of stuff just disgusts me now and feels so wrong and has for a few years now. There is no sudden line that says 'impossible' unless you are mentally retarded and can't even do a basic thing without outside help. This kind of thinking is what will make it impossible for you, without it actually being impossible if you know what I mean. The whole belief factor.

And on a VERY important and life-changing note, what you said with "xtian music pops into my head or something like praise jesus or jesus christ words pop into my head" just gave away what the hell your entire issue is and has been all these years because that is a major and immediate sign of an actual astral linking connection to the enemy thoughtform. I experience a very similar thing but not with the enemy thoughtform, with that disgusting jew I've mentioned that has infiltrated my family. Growing up she has become so insane and clingy emotionally and in just so many ways, she is obsessed about me, my mother and everything because we are nothing but material items to her, and anything material that is taken away from a jew, they freak out about it all the time. This obsessive thinking and anxiety she gets over me keeps creating an astral leeching attachment to my soul that I've had to cut away multiple times now. When it's attached that filthy things name will very invasively pop into my head so many times, often disrupting my meditations with disgust and utter repulsion. When I break away the link and completely clean out the leeching links and cut them away, this stops.

This kind of thing happens with the enemy thoughtform too when you are connected to it or if there is a connection. The link in itself passively affects you over time and influences you through subtlety VERY much like subliminal messages, and this astral link WILL feed things through into your head and they WILL be invasive thoughts catering to it. Perhaps you haven't realized this whole time for certain that you've had this connection with the enemy, but now that I'm bringing it to your awareness, you need to work to cut it away from yourself and clean everything about it out of your soul completely. Destroy the connection, free yourself, clean everything it's fed into you all those years, and you WILL find yourself slowly feeling better just by that alone. But in addition to cutting the link and connection you MUST clean everything out of your soul that it put into you, even well after the complete breaking of the connection which could take who knows how long depending on how many years it's been feeding into you, it could be a week, it could be two weeks, it could be a couple of months, you'll have to chip away at it every day until it's completely destroyed and gone from you and disconnected, I think a full working would be in order.

If you are actually willing to put in the effort to free yourself of this connection and do this and take it seriously, then I will provide further details and information on how to do so. But I can tell you with utmost certainty that is 1000% your problem and has been all these years. You should be grateful it's one measly thing such as that, everything else will run smooth as butter in dealing with when this connection you have is broken and you're freed and cleaned of it completely. Even if you clean your soul regularly and meditate to break bindings, our focus can only spread so far, if you are not aware of and keep missing that actual link itself, then all your efforts aren't going to touch it. You have to go and dive to the very direct source. I've cleaned my soul for years and broken bindings and I still sometimes find things I've missed. You really have to search for some of these things, they will not typically be made blatantly obvious, especially if it's of the enemy and they actually put in psychic effort to prevent you from noticing it.
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Re: Revenge after many years

Postby FancyMancy » Sat Dec 28, 2019 6:13 pm

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Re: Revenge after many years

Postby Bellynha666 » Wed Jan 01, 2020 2:56 am

[/quote]Hmmmm it's really up to you. You could do a 9-day revenge spell or something, to get your revenge without wasting 40 full days on that person. It should make you feel better while also not taking tons of your time.[/quote]

Shael,

What would this 9-day revenge spell look like?

Is this spell specific or do you only cast a revenge spell (for example the gray energy aura for destruction) of 40 days; but working for 9 days only.

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Re: Revenge after many years

Postby Shael » Wed Jan 01, 2020 11:23 am

Bellynha666 wrote:Shael,

What would this 9-day revenge spell look like?

Is this spell specific or do you only cast a revenge spell (for example the gray energy aura for destruction) of 40 days; but working for 9 days only.

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I would say the Tyr rune, for justice. Plus one or more additional runes if you want to further specify what kind of revenge you want.
Be aware that you need to be cautious if you want to make this working into a more black-magick style working.
If you use only Tyr, there should be no negative effects on you whatsoever. But if you for example want to add Hagl to bring misfortune to the target, you would need to take care that it does not also negatively affect you as well.

The deathspell thing with gray energy is also possible, but I think it'd be less effective than just going for the runic approach here. Since this would be a "revenge" working, centered around delivering justice, rather than a deathspell.

Deathspells would also be more time-intensive than 9 days unless you've accumulated a lot of personal power already. Doing the gray energy method for 9 days very likely would not kill, but rather just sporadically cause some bad feelings and illness in the target. Overall less precise and effective here than the runic approach with Tyr.

I recommend the 9 day method here because it should serve as a good outlet for pent-up rage and delivering justice, while also not wasting 40 days of your time on one single asshole.

For very grave offenses I would recommend a full 40 days if you feel it to be necessary.
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Re: Revenge after many years

Postby Bellynha666 » Thu Jan 02, 2020 4:17 pm

Shael wrote:
Bellynha666 wrote:Shael,

What would this 9-day revenge spell look like?

Is this spell specific or do you only cast a revenge spell (for example the gray energy aura for destruction) of 40 days; but working for 9 days only.

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I would say the Tyr rune, for justice. Plus one or more additional runes if you want to further specify what kind of revenge you want.
Be aware that you need to be cautious if you want to make this working into a more black-magick style working.
If you use only Tyr, there should be no negative effects on you whatsoever. But if you for example want to add Hagl to bring misfortune to the target, you would need to take care that it does not also negatively affect you as well.

The deathspell thing with gray energy is also possible, but I think it'd be less effective than just going for the runic approach here. Since this would be a "revenge" working, centered around delivering justice, rather than a deathspell.

Deathspells would also be more time-intensive than 9 days unless you've accumulated a lot of personal power already. Doing the gray energy method for 9 days very likely would not kill, but rather just sporadically cause some bad feelings and illness in the target. Overall less precise and effective here than the runic approach with Tyr.

I recommend the 9 day method here because it should serve as a good outlet for pent-up rage and delivering justice, while also not wasting 40 days of your time on one single asshole.

For very grave offenses I would recommend a full 40 days if you feel it to be necessary.


Shael,

Thanks

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Re: Revenge after many years

Postby Bellynha666 » Thu Jan 02, 2020 10:34 pm

Shael wrote:
Bellynha666 wrote:Shael,

What would this 9-day revenge spell look like?

Is this spell specific or do you only cast a revenge spell (for example the gray energy aura for destruction) of 40 days; but working for 9 days only.

Save Satan
I would say the Tyr rune, for justice. Plus one or more additional runes if you want to further specify what kind of revenge you want.
Be aware that you need to be cautious if you want to make this working into a more black-magick style working.
If you use only Tyr, there should be no negative effects on you whatsoever. But if you for example want to add Hagl to bring misfortune to the target, you would need to take care that it does not also negatively affect you as well.

The deathspell thing with gray energy is also possible, but I think it'd be less effective than just going for the runic approach here. Since this would be a "revenge" working, centered around delivering justice, rather than a deathspell.

Deathspells would also be more time-intensive than 9 days unless you've accumulated a lot of personal power already. Doing the gray energy method for 9 days very likely would not kill, but rather just sporadically cause some bad feelings and illness in the target. Overall less precise and effective here than the runic approach with Tyr.

I recommend the 9 day method here because it should serve as a good outlet for pent-up rage and delivering justice, while also not wasting 40 days of your time on one single asshole.

For very grave offenses I would recommend a full 40 days if you feel it to be necessary.


Shael,

Do you think it would be a good idea to use Rune Tyr with Thorr to destroy a damn one?

And how many vibrations do you guide me?

Thanks

Shael
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Re: Revenge after many years

Postby Shael » Fri Jan 03, 2020 6:01 am

Bellynha666 wrote:Shael,

Do you think it would be a good idea to use Rune Tyr with Thorr to destroy a damn one?

And how many vibrations do you guide me?

Thanks
If you just want a deathspell then I would recommend the aura deathspell method on the JoS website. Runes can be dangerous for this because the energies would stick to you as well.

Also read here viewtopic.php?f=3&t=24711&p=109945#p109945
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Re: Revenge after many years

Postby Bellynha666 » Fri Jan 03, 2020 4:38 pm

Shael wrote:
Bellynha666 wrote:Shael,

Do you think it would be a good idea to use Rune Tyr with Thorr to destroy a damn one?

And how many vibrations do you guide me?

Thanks
If you just want a deathspell then I would recommend the aura deathspell method on the JoS website. Runes can be dangerous for this because the energies would stick to you as well.

Also read here viewtopic.php?f=3&t=24711&p=109945#p109945


Thank you Shael,

I will follow your recommendations.


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