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animeman666
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U.b.i

Postby animeman666 » Sun Dec 15, 2019 6:49 am

Hey,
Mageson wrote a sermon about ubi not to long ago, now there's a guy that is running for president and wants to implement it Andrew Yang I've been looking at his policies and it looks like he's the only one that can beat trump, his u.b.i would give every American 18+ 1k/m for life , what do you guys think?

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Re: U.b.i

Postby HP. Hoodedcobra666 » Sun Dec 15, 2019 8:11 am

Yang win against Trump...Yea, alright. Confirmed promotion here. Not really.

I think its a stupid way to buy votes and a nice way for Capitalism to get going into eternity, or a good way to bankrupt America.

When corporations will stop needing people due to automation, the UBI is supposed to come in as charity money so that people can spend it back into the companies, essentially just giving people spending power to keep the companies that do not need the people going.

The solution is not UBI the solution is to fucking get people to work and put a pace to the advent of automation, which will render humans worthless.

The enemy rants and raves how this will create a "worthless people" class in modern societies, who will be needed for nothing. These will be worthless. How long will it be until the "mercy" of corporations runs out on the people?

Free Market economy can adjust its prices to also render the UBI useless. A rent of a thousand today can get to two thousand and there goes the UBI.

The more policies that domesticate people to this level, all the worse.

It sounds great at first but the implications can be bad. Give the government gives not a shit about automation, illegals, and so forth, something has to be done. Yang proposes the UBI as a random solution to a far deeper problem.

So he has a real view of the problem but just throwing money to people is not really going to help. There are far greater issues than giving people money involved here. Giant corporations, and many other things are playing hard ball here.

In the end also it makes one wonder if Yang is some sort of these politicians that are promoted by foreign governments. This is only an assumption. Many Nations who have applied such measures or inflated the welfare system past a point have went bankrupt. There is no reason to say the US cannot be one of them potentially.

I am sure Zuckerberg jacks off daily to the idea that robots that never question him do serve him, and produce him trillions of dollars of wealth, while others in the system are totally impoverished and part of a "worthless class of people", begging him and other corporations for charity money to exist, while the cattle below is only given some bucks to be able to add to the spending process, but not really able to do anything important or be able to demand anything. For this the robot army can take care of that.

Domestication policy such as this is dangerous for the longterm, people need to go for claims and revolts if these things happen and they are permanently displaced. Not peacefully take some little money not enough for life and get it done with.
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Re: U.b.i

Postby luis » Sun Dec 15, 2019 10:34 am

HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:....


In Italy they did something similar and it doesn't work at all. It's seriously the most stupid thing ever. If those money where put somewhere else we would have been better.

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Postby Jack » Sun Dec 15, 2019 12:23 pm

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Re: U.b.i

Postby HP Mageson666 » Sun Dec 15, 2019 4:43 pm

The dumb argument against UBI is its Communism. Its not and it defies Communism taking UBI is not the dictatorship of the Proletariat, the abolishing of private property and the free market. So its not this is an America rightwing tard reaction everything they don't like is communism its the just less obnoxious the leftwing tard everything is fascists natsees. America is not politically literate.

UBI is based on the reality of money, the economy is a water wheel and money is the water. UBI would simply take tax dollars and invest them into society by giving everyone the extra capital to then invest into goods and services. That is all, its not the end of the world or the Communist apocalypse. The Jew corporations are already getting billions of tax dollars to send jobs over seas and don't operate by free market principals in the neo-feudal kikedom they are building. The money flowing to the corporate monopolies and foreign nations should go back into the American public.

The question is one of practical need not ideology. The benefit of UBI is it would create more economic power and give people more needed money. It might even balance out the crashing of the America dollar. The Jew banks just had the biggest bail out of up to 350 billion this autumn. And the last major manufacturing plants are now in lay off mode and the retail industry is collapsed as people don't have money to spend. America is entering the great recession so is Europe. I hear a lot of praise of the Trump economy but its probably too little and too late. The entire system is run and designed by Jews. If the economy has no energy and the dollar is deflated too far its over the dollar will crash.

Also there will not be some White Nationalist movement in America that will take advantage of such. The Jews will have their red guards on the streets they are organized and ready to roll. Everything is moving across the board to Socialism because this is how it goes in historical political trends of which forces the world is within. The stats show 40 percent of Americans now want some type of Socialism. The only question is will it be National Socialism or Marxist Socialism since most Americans seem to think National Socialism is just Socialism and even people who call themselves National Socialists don't know what NS actually is and think its somehow anti Socialism because American's hate Socialism till they want their Social Security check..... Who knows.

If your smart you will hope for the collapse of Communist China really fast.

You don't need Yang for UBI maybe Trump can set this up. When enough people demand it anything can happen. Yang and Tulsi are excellent because the Demo Party is fucking them over and running some insane loser over them. Its just speeding up their end.



animeman666 wrote:Hey,
Mageson wrote a sermon about ubi not to long ago, now there's a guy that is running for president and wants to implement it Andrew Yang I've been looking at his policies and it looks like he's the only one that can beat trump, his u.b.i would give every American 18+ 1k/m for life , what do you guys think?

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Re: U.b.i

Postby HP. Hoodedcobra666 » Sun Dec 15, 2019 4:53 pm

We need more than UBI to make the idea behind it work, but if one dares say the State has to do something to stop the exportation of jobs to the third world, and people just go rabid and say that is the destruction of Free Market.

Because someone would tell these guys to get a grip and stop selling Asthma inhalers at 350$ per unit. The same asthma inhaler that costs like 10 or 20 bucks in every other place in the world. And it's only Bernie that even talks about the subject because if anyone else does everyone who has no idea will just start raving about the so called "Free Market" which is already totally monopolized.

This is the same brainwashed types that say that "If Youtube goes to shit then something will replace it!". Like yes, it is definitely feasible to replace an unending billion dollar industry such as Jewtube believe it goy.

National Socialism has a powerful base on helping racial kin with grants or what we call today "State Welfare", but this makes sense within the racial matters and legal racial migration, otherwise, feeding welfare to everyone that just invades you is just feeding a ticking timebomb. You redirect resources to the people that want to displace you.

UBI with the current jewish economy and control context will easily turn to a neo-feudal, spend some bucks while we pillage everyone and have some grains so we can sack them, type of thing.

What really scares the Jews as an idea is also the idea that people can have a specific type of currency with which they can back up financially their canditates, as some form of "Money vote". This scares them shitless in every panel.

Let us all remember that Hitler rose by the people and not by jewish corporations, and by a popular demand of 88,8% voters. The jewish world oligarchy hated Hitler for this reason. He was a man of the people in the whole sense of the word.
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Postby HP Mageson666 » Sun Dec 15, 2019 5:07 pm

Hitler had the support of the Germans in important levels in many area's that were alarmed by Communism. Eckhart was probably the most important man in German politics' and did not boast at his final words. He set Hitler up with the connections and help needed to become Chancellor. He built the base.

Also Hitler's party was finally able to make enough push into the German Reichstag with the depression, the German Chancellor and more anti-Communist parities made a deal with Hitler. The National Socialist Party formed a alliance with them in return for Hitler becoming Vice Chancellor, Hindenburg died of old age and then Hitler became Chancellor. The National Socialist Party steered the alliance of Parities to vote for their polices in series of deals. And the next national election then the National Socialists were voted into power with a majority government and the Communists attempted an armed revolution and were banned and this left Hitler with a majority government to rebuild Germany.

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Re: U.b.i

Postby HP Mageson666 » Sun Dec 15, 2019 5:10 pm

I suspect what triggers Jews about Trump is he is a guy who was put into office by small but hard going group of renegades within the conservative movement who want change. The goal is economic nationalism and to crush cultural Marxism and its globalist economic ideology. Bannon's economic nationalism is deracinated National Socialism.

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Postby Eric13 » Sun Dec 15, 2019 5:19 pm

HP Mageson666 wrote:UBI is based on the reality of money, the economy is a water wheel and money is the water. UBI would simply take tax dollars and invest them into society by giving everyone the extra capital to then invest into goods and services. That is all, its not the end of the world or the Communist apocalypse.

This is why it makes sense to me personally. And I feel even if some people are spending it on drugs or whatever this doesn’t nullify it getting into our economy in time.

There may be some wrinkles in the beginning if it’s implemented, but that will get ironed out as it puts pressure on speeding up things so everything falls in place. Like increase in production of goods and services or else, prices will go up and that defeats the purpose.

I think if trump implements it, he has the track record to do it in an effective way.

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Re: U.b.i

Postby HP. Hoodedcobra666 » Sun Dec 15, 2019 5:45 pm

HP Mageson666 wrote:I suspect what triggers Jews about Trump is he is a guy who was put into office by small but hard going group of renegades within the conservative movement who want change. The goal is economic nationalism and to crush cultural Marxism and its globalist economic ideology. Bannon's economic nationalism is deracinated National Socialism.


I have a problem with the De-racinated aspect but still the ideological aspect makes me like Bannon's ideals and makes him in my eyes a very decent man. He is also quite a brilliant mind and this is why the left dehumanizes him frequently in the media as a booze drinker or something.

Thing is if this is not implemented quickly, China will keep growing, and we will have to encounter a WW3 down the line including Communist haphazard really getting empowered.

Big capital is pro anyone who is able to create exploitative conditions for workers. So many of them are already siding with China, even inadvertently.

Let's not lie to ourselves China became great because the United States and many others decided to feed into this "cheap labor" type of shit, which not before long, turns lethal. It's was a great short term strategy for big corps but in the longterm this is a disaster strategy. China doesn't care how it will go and how long it will take.

Bannon knows this and he is hated for this, because he was the only person to go in the front and make this a central agenda issue.
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Re: U.b.i

Postby Blitzkreig » Mon Dec 16, 2019 5:06 am

HP Mageson666 wrote:I suspect what triggers Jews about Trump is he is a guy who was put into office by small but hard going group of renegades within the conservative movement who want change. The goal is economic nationalism and to crush cultural Marxism and its globalist economic ideology. Bannon's economic nationalism is deracinated National Socialism.


Correct me if I am missing something, but I thought Trump was in bed with the Jews. Bannon, idk, but I thought Trump was pretty clearly just another puppet like the rest.
Yes, I know, I transposed "e" and "i" in my name.

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Re: U.b.i

Postby HP Mageson666 » Tue Dec 17, 2019 4:50 am

Prices go up because the Jewish Fed manipulates currency production to make them go up their either print not enough or too much on purpose to fuck over the economy and allow their tribes agenda to go on. This is outside of UBI. The arguments of how Jews will probably Jew with UBI is one that Jews are always Jewing.

Eric13 wrote:
HP Mageson666 wrote:UBI is based on the reality of money, the economy is a water wheel and money is the water. UBI would simply take tax dollars and invest them into society by giving everyone the extra capital to then invest into goods and services. That is all, its not the end of the world or the Communist apocalypse.

This is why it makes sense to me personally. And I feel even if some people are spending it on drugs or whatever this doesn’t nullify it getting into our economy in time.

There may be some wrinkles in the beginning if it’s implemented, but that will get ironed out as it puts pressure on speeding up things so everything falls in place. Like increase in production of goods and services or else, prices will go up and that defeats the purpose.

I think if trump implements it, he has the track record to do it in an effective way.

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Re: U.b.i

Postby curio » Tue Dec 17, 2019 9:05 am

Yang is a typical democrat(ic socialist). There's nothing to convince me that he's not a ChiCom plant to ruin america economically & competitively and spread its asshole wider for the CCP and the rest of the turd world. The MSM snubbing him is the one of the best things they've done for us lately.

His tousan dorra gibs are partly to placate whites, because he's afraid of being seen on the order of jews and getting interned and holocausted, because of the actions of his motherland - china.

Check the video.
https://www.infowars.com/dem-presidenti ... ion-camps/

One of his parents has a PHD and the other has a masters. He has several other relatives that are professors. He himself worked in (((medical, venture capital, law and now politics))) and went to an elite boarding school and university when he was a kid. Yet he talks shit about how he "really relates to the underdog", because his white classmates convinced him he has a small penis or something (t. his book).

He never seems to hold china accountable and seems to have the same cucked appeasement policy toward china that every other politician has had and which lead to the growing the CCP into the monstrosity it is today.

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Postby HP. Hoodedcobra666 » Tue Dec 17, 2019 12:34 pm

To me it is an obvious thing that electing a President to bankrupt completely the United States wouldn't be beyond of the Chinese who are Communists and essentially only apply Marxist methods one of which is infiltration. Jews do the very same thing.

China has no real hope to catch up to the United States unless it somehow implodes or has a civil war or demographic issues, or its brought down from within such as the Soviet Union tried with numerous plants.

China has used Liberal candidate plants in Australia by financing them. Why not in the United States? Biden may also be in this thing but he will not take it full way, and why not Yang also?
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Postby Eric13 » Tue Dec 17, 2019 2:36 pm

HP Mageson666 wrote:...

I guess what I meant was, isn’t part of the point of UBI to help take away the struggle? So people aren’t having to work like two crap jobs just to get by and people aren’t slaving 50-60+ hour weeks, destroying their health and quality of life.

But this would mean less workers, less work being done. And so it seems like production and services would go down right? And thus prices go up cause supply and demand. Unless automation is at a certain point.

I’m still all for UBI and think it’s a major solution, but the point of jews always jewin is kind of a real point. Cause they are always jewin. I wonder how this would effect the ironing out of some initial problems, like automation, etc.

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Postby luis » Tue Dec 17, 2019 2:41 pm

HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:To me it is an obvious thing that electing a President to bankrupt completely the United States wouldn't be beyond of the Chinese who are Communists and essentially only apply Marxist methods one of which is infiltration. Jews do the very same thing.

China has no real hope to catch up to the United States unless it somehow implodes or has a civil war or demographic issues, or its brought down from within such as the Soviet Union tried with numerous plants.

China has used Liberal candidate plants in Australia by financing them. Why not in the United States? Biden may also be in this thing but he will not take it full way, and why not Yang also?

I watched the full interview of the Chinese spy in Australia and it's not impossible at all. Especially America because the Jews definitely want to put down. I do not trust a jew giving me money and telling me what to buy...

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Postby HP Mageson666 » Tue Dec 17, 2019 2:47 pm

China is moving in historical trend the situation is the Communist regime knows a coup against them is the big threat this is why Xi Jinping has purged certain military officials in the party. What brought down the other Communist regimes was a combination of a coup within the party, military and civil uprising all at the same time. This is how its going in China.

Trump sent aid to Hong Kong and its movement against Beijing. If there is coup within China its more then likely Trump will send aid to the anti-Communist movement. Taiwan is considered the legal government of China in exile.

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Postby HP Mageson666 » Tue Dec 17, 2019 2:58 pm

That is true and its obvious to note they really are all fucking commies. I am not even being factitious, even Biden will just be like Bubba and sell America out to Communist China for the tribe.

curio wrote:Yang is a typical democrat

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Postby HP Mageson666 » Tue Dec 17, 2019 3:09 pm

Its all over the place, Trump is building the wall, going after China, lowering some taxes and causing the entire strange Democratic Marxist world to implode in kamikaze tantrum. He also does not want war with Iran he just wants to troll them with economic restrictions. Things are going in all directions and big Jew got Trojan horsed defacto. I don't think Trump is plotting he just wants to do all this stuff because he wants to and it just happens to fuck over big Jew in major ways. And the Jews are just having strange fits of Jew rage and its just costing them.

Blitzkreig wrote:
HP Mageson666 wrote:I suspect what triggers Jews about Trump is he is a guy who was put into office by small but hard going group of renegades within the conservative movement who want change. The goal is economic nationalism and to crush cultural Marxism and its globalist economic ideology. Bannon's economic nationalism is deracinated National Socialism.


Correct me if I am missing something, but I thought Trump was in bed with the Jews. Bannon, idk, but I thought Trump was pretty clearly just another puppet like the rest.

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Postby HP. Hoodedcobra666 » Tue Dec 17, 2019 4:48 pm

Trump has destroyed the Left completely, both the good and bad elements. Its left desolate. The jews will not forgive him for this no matter what he does. Plus, they are exposed as both incompetent and commies. Biden's exposure alone for being Chinese owned is a big issue.

No matter how many favors he does to the jews the above is a fact.

He has made many enemies. His presidency on the larger spectrum of things until now is a win for the longterm. No wars yet which is important give the bloodthirst of jews. The problem is that he does what jews push him to do as a form of amending for his own sins for fucking shit up and numerous jews because has actually minded America at some point.

Europe shovels his reputation also, because he actually is not 100% everyone else and 100% jewish interest. This is why he pays for this with all the attacks he gets.

He is the best president in the last 20 years for the United States. He is also the only one who took it serious to deal with Communist danger of China rather than feeding them with an open hand. This is crucial for the next 10 and 20 years.

If he also puts an actual wall in place something meaningful may come out of this whole presidency but this has to be after 2020. If he makes an actual wall this is net gain for the future in the US, the wall is an important measure to stop random invasion.
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Postby SS66610888 » Tue Dec 17, 2019 8:58 pm

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