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The more I learn about Nazi Germany the less I can understand how we lost.


Ol argedco luciftias said:
Greaat article! :D Just in the first paragraph, the gods came here much longer ago than 10-20 thousand years. That's probably more closer to around the time they left from here and went back home.

Where you said lower down the page, "Sumerians were a colony of superior beings sent from Aldebaran 500 million years ago." This is more accurate to the time when the gods came to Earth. I don't know when it was, but it was at least several million years ago, as the Sumerian and Egyptian records show.
If we were created that much time ago we would have been much more advanced and the war with the enemy would have been won time ago.
I'm pretty sure HP Mageson has stated that before Christianity we were in the 18th century technologically.
 
TopoftheAbyss said:
The more I learn about Nazi Germany the less I can understand how we lost.


Ol argedco luciftias said:
Greaat article! :D Just in the first paragraph, the gods came here much longer ago than 10-20 thousand years. That's probably more closer to around the time they left from here and went back home.

Where you said lower down the page, "Sumerians were a colony of superior beings sent from Aldebaran 500 million years ago." This is more accurate to the time when the gods came to Earth. I don't know when it was, but it was at least several million years ago, as the Sumerian and Egyptian records show.
If we were created that much time ago we would have been much more advanced and the war with the enemy would have been won time ago.
I'm pretty sure HP Mageson has stated that before Christianity we were in the 18th century technologically.
:evil:

500 thousand years, I thought, is how old Satan is... Maybe that is when He and some Others first visited here, so He is older. He visited here before Azazel was born, who is about 60 thousand years old, and then Azazel became a Crowned Prince of Hell - so before that, there were... 3, 2 or 1 Crowned Prince/s of Hell (I don't know Their birthdays).

The 7 Sons of Satan, including Azazel, correspond to the 7 main Chakras, but before 60 thousand years ago Azazel wouldn't have been been around yet, so before that time, someone or something else would have had to have corresponded to that Chakra...
 
Ol argedco luciftias said:
Greaat article! :D Just in the first paragraph, the gods came here much longer ago than 10-20 thousand years. That's probably more closer to around the time they left from here and went back home.

Where you said lower down the page, "Sumerians were a colony of superior beings sent from Aldebaran 500 million years ago." This is more accurate to the time when the gods came to Earth. I don't know when it was, but it was at least several million years ago, as the Sumerian and Egyptian records show.


I am wondering if dinosaurs were still around when Father Satan and the Gods landed here, or they were long gone by then?


Awesome article. Thank you very much.
 
TopoftheAbyss said:
The more I learn about Nazi Germany the less I can understand how we lost.


Ol argedco luciftias said:
Greaat article! :D Just in the first paragraph, the gods came here much longer ago than 10-20 thousand years. That's probably more closer to around the time they left from here and went back home.

Where you said lower down the page, "Sumerians were a colony of superior beings sent from Aldebaran 500 million years ago." This is more accurate to the time when the gods came to Earth. I don't know when it was, but it was at least several million years ago, as the Sumerian and Egyptian records show.
If we were created that much time ago we would have been much more advanced and the war with the enemy would have been won time ago.
I'm pretty sure HP Mageson has stated that before Christianity we were in the 18th century technologically.

As far as I know 500 "millions" is probably a typo. 500 thousands is the estimate. As for technological advancement, the pyramids built in the Age of Leo are more advanced thar 18th century technologies can build. If I remember correctly, the Roman Imperium was already in a declining phase, which could show why technology was only comparable to 18th century tech. Feel free to correct me, if you think I misremembered soemthing.

As for National Socialist Germany, I suspect there might have been direct interference from Greys and Reptilians, instead of using proxy measures. That is just my understanding.
 
FancyMancy said:
TopoftheAbyss said:
The more I learn about Nazi Germany the less I can understand how we lost.


Ol argedco luciftias said:
Greaat article! :D Just in the first paragraph, the gods came here much longer ago than 10-20 thousand years. That's probably more closer to around the time they left from here and went back home.

Where you said lower down the page, "Sumerians were a colony of superior beings sent from Aldebaran 500 million years ago." This is more accurate to the time when the gods came to Earth. I don't know when it was, but it was at least several million years ago, as the Sumerian and Egyptian records show.
If we were created that much time ago we would have been much more advanced and the war with the enemy would have been won time ago.
I'm pretty sure HP Mageson has stated that before Christianity we were in the 18th century technologically.
:evil:

500 thousand years, I thought, is how old Satan is... Maybe that is when He and some Others first visited here, so He is older. He visited here before Azazel was born, who is about 60 thousand years old, and then Azazel became a Crowned Prince of Hell - so before that, there were... 3, 2 or 1 Crowned Prince/s of Hell (I don't know Their birthdays).

The 7 Sons of Satan, including Azazel, correspond to the 7 main Chakras, but before 60 thousand years ago Azazel wouldn't have been been around yet, so before that time, someone or something else would have had to have corresponded to that Chakra...
Where did you read about Azazel being 60 thousand years old? Isn't He twin with Astarte? There must have been more than two other correspondences to the chakras.
Still I doubt He's that young and humanity that old. The enemy is powerful but we should have resisted better if we were that ancient.
HP HC stated that we are in this state because we were attacked when we were still young. So I really doubt we're even 20 thousand years old.
 
Ol argedco luciftias said:
FancyMancy said:
500 thousand years, I thought, is how old Satan is... Maybe that is when He and some Others first visited here, so He is older. He visited here before Azazel was born, who is about 60 thousand years old, and then Azazel became a Crowned Prince of Hell - so before that, there were... 3, 2 or 1 Crowned Prince/s of Hell (I don't know Their birthdays).

The 7 Sons of Satan, including Azazel, correspond to the 7 main Chakras, but before 60 thousand years ago Azazel wouldn't have been been around yet, so before that time, someone or something else would have had to have corresponded to that Chakra...
Why do you think that Satan is exactly 500 thousand years old, not a decade plus or minus? Why do you think Azazel is exactly 60 thousand years old, not a decade plus or minus? Where did you get these numbers, and how could you be sure?

I didn't say exactly. I got these figures ages ago from JoS posts or pages.

Or is it just that there were cultures 60 thousand years ago who were focused on Azazel, and any evidence of anything older than that has been hidden away, destroyed, or "lost" by rats. So you don't see any mention of Azazel that is more than 60 thousand years, so that must be his birthday. There is a lot that has been lost, and a lot that must be found again.
Of course. That makes sense. I should have realised that.
 
TopoftheAbyss said:
FancyMancy said:
TopoftheAbyss said:
The more I learn about Nazi Germany the less I can understand how we lost.



If we were created that much time ago we would have been much more advanced and the war with the enemy would have been won time ago.
I'm pretty sure HP Mageson has stated that before Christianity we were in the 18th century technologically.
:evil:

500 thousand years, I thought, is how old Satan is... Maybe that is when He and some Others first visited here, so He is older. He visited here before Azazel was born, who is about 60 thousand years old, and then Azazel became a Crowned Prince of Hell - so before that, there were... 3, 2 or 1 Crowned Prince/s of Hell (I don't know Their birthdays).

The 7 Sons of Satan, including Azazel, correspond to the 7 main Chakras, but before 60 thousand years ago Azazel wouldn't have been been around yet, so before that time, someone or something else would have had to have corresponded to that Chakra...
Where did you read about Azazel being 60 thousand years old? Isn't He twin with Astarte? There must have been more than two other correspondences to the chakras.
Still I doubt He's that young and humanity that old. The enemy is powerful but we should have resisted better if we were that ancient.
HP HC stated that we are in this state because we were attacked when we were still young. So I really doubt we're even 20 thousand years old.
From JoS posts or pages ages ago. If we were older, we should have resisted more and better, I agree, so the Gods and Goddesses must have left before we were attacked. If we're not more than 20 thousand years, then how might you explain evidence, which has been said I think by HPHC, which goes back about 70 000 to 100 000 years+ of Humanity and writings of history and knowledge?
 
From what I know to clarify it states Satan is around a little over 540,000 Earth years old. As for Ashur and Astarte they are around 60,000 not exactly but slightly above or below.

Funny enough I recall somewhere stating that about 50,000 years old is considered the "young" Gods age. Not sure if young God refers to entities of the Empire of Orion, maybe Aldebaran Arm since they are closest or if it means humans that reached high levels and are considered Godlike in their development.

500 million is a bit crazy in fact it gets crazier with reading Joseph Pharrels book stating 505 million year old boot prints. If our civilization was millions to billions of years old. Non of this 10K years ago bullshit would have happened.

The only other possible thing I can think of is the Gods work slow and steady and don't really push their civilizations to full steam. Perhaps as a nascent civilization we were to do it slowly, over time to learn.

Kinda like how they state we pretty much live in 1950s society(non-Axis powers mind you) with technology i.e. smartphone in 50s style. In fact I'd wager to state the reason why so many people are fucked up and so messed with particularly with this internitazion of pumping up the internet into everything of a (((trans-humanist))) manner is driving people crazy.

I recall being said that technology requires spirituality to ease people into it. Not drive them crazy with some (((Orwellian-Kurzweilian))) psychotic technology with everything.

I'm not a technophobe nor against technology, I'm pro-tech. But when it's used the way we use it, it's downright crazy and a feeling of too much information, too much data.
 
TopoftheAbyss said:
FancyMancy said:
TopoftheAbyss said:
The more I learn about Nazi Germany the less I can understand how we lost.



If we were created that much time ago we would have been much more advanced and the war with the enemy would have been won time ago.
I'm pretty sure HP Mageson has stated that before Christianity we were in the 18th century technologically.
:evil:

500 thousand years, I thought, is how old Satan is... Maybe that is when He and some Others first visited here, so He is older. He visited here before Azazel was born, who is about 60 thousand years old, and then Azazel became a Crowned Prince of Hell - so before that, there were... 3, 2 or 1 Crowned Prince/s of Hell (I don't know Their birthdays).

The 7 Sons of Satan, including Azazel, correspond to the 7 main Chakras, but before 60 thousand years ago Azazel wouldn't have been been around yet, so before that time, someone or something else would have had to have corresponded to that Chakra...
Where did you read about Azazel being 60 thousand years old? Isn't He twin with Astarte? There must have been more than two other correspondences to the chakras.
Still I doubt He's that young and humanity that old. The enemy is powerful but we should have resisted better if we were that ancient.
HP HC stated that we are in this state because we were attacked when we were still young. So I really doubt we're even 20 thousand years old.

Azazel's age is given on his personal page on JoS. Furthermore, there is Asmodeus who is half-human from the mother's side and he's not the only demigod to ever be conceived. So there are Gods that are younger than the engineering of humanity. It's possible.
 
Gear88 said:
From what I know to clarify it states Satan is around a little over 540,000 Earth years old. As for Ashur and Astarte they are around 60,000 not exactly but slightly above or below.

Funny enough I recall somewhere stating that about 50,000 years old is considered the "young" Gods age. Not sure if young God refers to entities of the Empire of Orion, maybe Aldebaran Arm since they are closest or if it means humans that reached high levels and are considered Godlike in their development.

500 million is a bit crazy in fact it gets crazier with reading Joseph Pharrels book stating 505 million year old boot prints. If our civilization was millions to billions of years old. Non of this 10K years ago bullshit would have happened.

The only other possible thing I can think of is the Gods work slow and steady and don't really push their civilizations to full steam. Perhaps as a nascent civilization we were to do it slowly, over time to learn.

Kinda like how they state we pretty much live in 1950s society(non-Axis powers mind you) with technology i.e. smartphone in 50s style. In fact I'd wager to state the reason why so many people are fucked up and so messed with particularly with this internitazion of pumping up the internet into everything of a (((trans-humanist))) manner is driving people crazy.

I recall being said that technology requires spirituality to ease people into it. Not drive them crazy with some (((Orwellian-Kurzweilian))) psychotic technology with everything.

I'm not a technophobe nor against technology, I'm pro-tech. But when it's used the way we use it, it's downright crazy and a feeling of too much information, too much data.

In a post some time ago, either Mageson or Cobra mentioend something: three waves of "creation". The first wave got it wrong; the second was something good like "homo erectus" or something, but still a failure; the third was us, the success, when their blood/genes were used.

I'll look it up and link it.
 
TopoftheAbyss said:
The more I learn about Nazi Germany the less I can understand how we lost.


Ol argedco luciftias said:
Greaat article! :D Just in the first paragraph, the gods came here much longer ago than 10-20 thousand years. That's probably more closer to around the time they left from here and went back home.

Where you said lower down the page, "Sumerians were a colony of superior beings sent from Aldebaran 500 million years ago." This is more accurate to the time when the gods came to Earth. I don't know when it was, but it was at least several million years ago, as the Sumerian and Egyptian records show.
If we were created that much time ago we would have been much more advanced and the war with the enemy would have been won time ago.
I'm pretty sure HP Mageson has stated that before Christianity we were in the 18th century technologically.

I said this, not HP Mageson.
 
HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:
TopoftheAbyss said:
The more I learn about Nazi Germany the less I can understand how we lost.


Ol argedco luciftias said:
Greaat article! :D Just in the first paragraph, the gods came here much longer ago than 10-20 thousand years. That's probably more closer to around the time they left from here and went back home.

Where you said lower down the page, "Sumerians were a colony of superior beings sent from Aldebaran 500 million years ago." This is more accurate to the time when the gods came to Earth. I don't know when it was, but it was at least several million years ago, as the Sumerian and Egyptian records show.
If we were created that much time ago we would have been much more advanced and the war with the enemy would have been won time ago.
I'm pretty sure HP Mageson has stated that before Christianity we were in the 18th century technologically.

I said this, not HP Mageson.
Ah, OK.
Sorry, HP.
 
These numbers are correct.

People who think the Gods are like half a billion years old are merely thinking stupidly or just are deeply misinformed with crap they read online. But pay not attention as said people are already deeply deluded with grand delusions, and this is only part of these.

Half a billion linear earth years, is a time frame people cannot even comprehend. If Satan and the Gods were there for like the huge amounts of time people assume and write, we would have conquered galaxies as they have, not struggle with just maintaining a single planet in a half asses manner or falling to hooknoses.

Time can also be quite trivial. A germ can exist for millions of years and do nothing absolutely, but be a germ. Time is relative and in the case of the Gods, their thousands of years time accounts to knowledge and power that would normally take millions or tens of millions to achieve conventionally by evolutionary standards. In this case, yes, one might as well say, they are extremely far more evolved in existential years than linear earth years.

The travel of the Gods to this place was relatively short. Even in the Egyptian eras like 10000 or more years earlier, they weren't here all the time. They came and went. This is iterated in the Egyptian Pyramid texts. Cultivation of a species should be done patiently, and the Gods have been really patient with us.

On the other hand the Greys and other aliens are accelerating growth as one does that to a vegetable by adding fertilizer eternally. This is because to them we are merely a plantation, and they want to borg us out as quickly as possible in their terms. The promise of quick "evolution" towards becoming borgs is part of this.

Given that some specific human beings can cause world change by times such as 30 linear and normal earth years, 500,000 is just an insane amount of time.

Asmodeus is anywhere from 6000 to 10,000 years old. Age however does not always directly decide ranking. Another Demon from the Demon section that existed as a demigod in the last 10000 years is Balaam. Balaam's legacy survived even as a Demon who even in the Torah is commemorated for launching a curse that killed tens of thousands of Jews at the time. This even they have hid in cryptic words, but this is what is said between the lines.

Gear88 said:
From what I know to clarify it states Satan is around a little over 540,000 Earth years old. As for Ashur and Astarte they are around 60,000 not exactly but slightly above or below.

Funny enough I recall somewhere stating that about 50,000 years old is considered the "young" Gods age. Not sure if young God refers to entities of the Empire of Orion, maybe Aldebaran Arm since they are closest or if it means humans that reached high levels and are considered Godlike in their development.

500 million is a bit crazy in fact it gets crazier with reading Joseph Pharrels book stating 505 million year old boot prints. If our civilization was millions to billions of years old. Non of this 10K years ago bullshit would have happened.

The only other possible thing I can think of is the Gods work slow and steady and don't really push their civilizations to full steam. Perhaps as a nascent civilization we were to do it slowly, over time to learn.

Kinda like how they state we pretty much live in 1950s society(non-Axis powers mind you) with technology i.e. smartphone in 50s style. In fact I'd wager to state the reason why so many people are fucked up and so messed with particularly with this internitazion of pumping up the internet into everything of a (((trans-humanist))) manner is driving people crazy.

I recall being said that technology requires spirituality to ease people into it. Not drive them crazy with some (((Orwellian-Kurzweilian))) psychotic technology with everything.

I'm not a technophobe nor against technology, I'm pro-tech. But when it's used the way we use it, it's downright crazy and a feeling of too much information, too much data.
 
HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:
Asmodeus is anywhere from 6000 to 10,000 years old. Age however does not always directly decide ranking. Another Demon from the Demon section that existed as a demigod in the last 10000 years is Balaam. Balaam's legacy survived even as a Demon who even in the Torah is commemorated for launching a curse that killed tens of thousands of Jews at the time. This even they have hid in cryptic words, but this is what is said between the lines.

On Asmodeus despite his young age as a high or higher ranking God, is it fair to say that there is something about him different than the other Gods? I mean they state "Asmodeus is Chief Astrologer of Hell and Oversees the Gambling Houses in Hell." Are the Gods that advanced that a young entity has so much compared to elder Gods? I mean it in a manner that the Gods themselves advanced and the information was placed sooner in his hands to learn.

Also I knew I was right with my hunch the Demon Balam was Balaam the soothsayer(Kabalistic vibrator). "Balam discerns the past and future, confers humor, wit, intellect, gives invisibility, and foretells the future."

Mind if I ask was he here on Earth at some point or was it just astral/spiritual warfare being allegoritized in the enemy lingo to make it seem like a physical down to Earth situation. I have the assumption he was here on Earth and got escorted off-world for being too hot to lose a being of higher power in case they tried hunting him down.

But non the less it sounds on my part a bit delusional to state such things as the sheer fact is it could just be the enemy creating a story just for (((muh heb konquest))).

Stormblood said:
In a post some time ago, either Mageson or Cobra mentioend something: three waves of "creation". The first wave got it wrong; the second was something good like "homo erectus" or something, but still a failure; the third was us, the success, when their blood/genes were used.

I'll look it up and link it.

Thanks, I believe I've read it before it sounds familiar but I might re-read to learn.

Is that normal behavior for the Gods? Not to disrespect but do they develop civilizations like that slowly speed up evolution over time?

It seems weird like if you knew your civilization was gonna act like a bunch of jews and then they got exterminated. Why bother doing it without God-Genes and God-Souls.
 
HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:
Sorry if I'm wrong about most things. Maybe I should leave then. I'm just trying to be the most helpful that I can be, to other people and to myself. I'm trying to be some kind of an influence for goodness in this world. I'm trying to fix all the problems I ever had, and I'm trying to do my best, but it's hard.

What I was saying about on this topic, the evidence that I was thinking about made sense to me and I thought it could be true. 500 thousand / 500 million, either way it's infinitely more time than I could ever imagine, so it's an easy mistake to make when it looks like there's some good evidence on both sides. I know I'm wrong sometimes and I'm very far from perfect, but I am trying to improve as much as I can. I know that a lot of the things I've said before were wrong, but I hope that most of the things I said were right. I never pretended to be strong, I'm just trying to be helpful. If you ever see me trying to say something and you know that it isn't true, then disapprove the comment. I'm not trying to cause any problems, I'm trying my best to fix the problems. But sometimes I miss the right answer, I never pretended to be perfect.
 
HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:
If I'm mistaken about something and about to write something untrue that's just going to confuse other people and drag them all down, you should have just disapproved the comment, or replied to the first time I said it and made a correction. Instead of allowing the mistake to continue over multiple different posts to confuse and drag down other people, then replying to one of those people that were harmed from it saying "Why would you ever listen to him? He's horribly delusional about everything." Basically choosing for a while to allow a confusing mistake that could have easily been shut down before it started, then kicking me when I'm down telling everyone how broken I am.

I thought I've been doing a good thing always trying to help a lot of people, and I know I get things wrong sometimes but I thought I was mostly telling the truth and being helpful. But if I'm wrong about everything and only making more problems for the group, I should have just never made any account here. But I really thought I was helping at least some amount. If I put a small fraction of the care and effort to help into myself that I've been trying to always use to help other people, maybe I would have already fixed all my problems. And then I wouldn't have gotten all the enemies' attention either, them trying to curse me worse and worse every day, and trying to bind me down so bad that it's so hard to do any action that would help myself. But I honestly thought that I was doing the right thing, and that helping others is more important than helping myself. Sorry if I'm always wrong about everything, and all I do is confuse and harm everyone else with these mistakes, but I'm doing the best that I can do and trying to make the best outcome of the situation. You know this is a very difficult world for sensitive people, but I really am trying to do my best, even if the only thing you're able to see about me is all my problems. Not everyone is as strong as you, and not everyone is able to know what to do. I never pretended to be perfect, the way you seem to be able to be. My biggest mistake was caring about other people instead of myself, but that's just how my soul has always been. I got too much love, and only very little of it is for myself because I'm not as important as all the people I care about. I think I should be done writing any comments here ever again, and hopefully I'll be able to use that effort to help myself instead and start to not care about anyone else. I hope those rituals we're about to do will help me to be able to start to take care of myself better.
 
Stormblood said:
In a post some time ago, either Mageson or Cobra mentioend something: three waves of "creation". The first wave got it wrong; the second was something good like "homo erectus" or something, but still a failure; the third was us, the success, when their blood/genes were used.

I'll look it up and link it.
The first two "waves" were not "failures". The first "wave" was the black race, which is told to be physically stronger and resistant, the second "wave" was the yellow race which is told to be smarter/bigger intellect, the third "wave" was the white race which is told to be more spiritual than the others. No wonder why, I'm quite sure there are more white SS than all the other races and subraces combined.
 
Since Asmodeus' mother is human and His father is a God, does it count as race mixing?
I guess not if the father is a human that achieved the Magnum Opus?
 
Ol argedco luciftias said:
HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:
If I'm mistaken about something and about to write something untrue that's just going to confuse other people and drag them all down, you should have just disapproved the comment, or replied to the first time I said it and made a correction. Instead of allowing the mistake to continue over multiple different posts to confuse and drag down other people, then replying to one of those people that were harmed from it saying "Why would you ever listen to him? He's horribly delusional about everything." Basically choosing for a while to allow a confusing mistake that could have easily been shut down before it started, then kicking me when I'm down telling everyone how broken I am.

I thought I've been doing a good thing always trying to help a lot of people, and I know I get things wrong sometimes but I thought I was mostly telling the truth and being helpful. But if I'm wrong about everything and only making more problems for the group, I should have just never made any account here. But I really thought I was helping at least some amount. If I put a small fraction of the care and effort to help into myself that I've been trying to always use to help other people, maybe I would have already fixed all my problems. And then I wouldn't have gotten all the enemies' attention either, them trying to curse me worse and worse every day, and trying to bind me down so bad that it's so hard to do any action that would help myself. But I honestly thought that I was doing the right thing, and that helping others is more important than helping myself. Sorry if I'm always wrong about everything, and all I do is confuse and harm everyone else with these mistakes, but I'm doing the best that I can do and trying to make the best outcome of the situation. You know this is a very difficult world for sensitive people, but I really am trying to do my best, even if the only thing you're able to see about me is all my problems. Not everyone is as strong as you, and not everyone is able to know what to do. I never pretended to be perfect, the way you seem to be able to be. My biggest mistake was caring about other people instead of myself, but that's just how my soul has always been. I got too much love, and only very little of it is for myself because I'm not as important as all the people I care about. I think I should be done writing any comments here ever again, and hopefully I'll be able to use that effort to help myself instead and start to not care about anyone else. I hope those rituals we're about to do will help me to be able to start to take care of myself better.


I would say do not stress this much about it. You got the age wrong, so what? You helped people so many times in past, and you continue to do so, everyone who is long enough on this forum know that you have no ill intentions.


I would just ignore this mistake, and move on. It happens to all of us sometimes.
 
Ol argedco luciftias said:
HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:
Sorry if I'm wrong about most things. Maybe I should leave then. I'm just trying to be the most helpful that I can be, to other people and to myself. I'm trying to be some kind of an influence for goodness in this world. I'm trying to fix all the problems I ever had, and I'm trying to do my best, but it's hard.

What I was saying about on this topic, the evidence that I was thinking about made sense to me and I thought it could be true. 500 thousand / 500 million, either way it's infinitely more time than I could ever imagine, so it's an easy mistake to make when it looks like there's some good evidence on both sides. I know I'm wrong sometimes and I'm very far from perfect, but I am trying to improve as much as I can. I know that a lot of the things I've said before were wrong, but I hope that most of the things I said were right. I never pretended to be strong, I'm just trying to be helpful. If you ever see me trying to say something and you know that it isn't true, then disapprove the comment. I'm not trying to cause any problems, I'm trying my best to fix the problems. But sometimes I miss the right answer, I never pretended to be perfect.

I have nothing against that, it's ok. It's just that misinforming can cause great confusion.

500 million in linear time, as in, without an advanced civilization, aren't required to reach a supreme level of advancement. The Gods are from a supremely advanced level of civilization. Refer to some stories like The Coming Race. From their race, even a child had tremendous power compared to a human psychically speaking. Time is not all that is relevant, so it's not a time competition here.
 
SSwombat said:
I think it was a good article degraded by people arguing about when the Gods came here. It takes time and effort to post an article like this (which I borrowed extensively from Clergy sermons). Please keep this in mind in the future.

I will go by what HP Cobra said.

I think your article was nice, it's ok about what came later, no probs.
 
Larissa666 said:
Ol argedco luciftias said:
HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:
If I'm mistaken about something and about to write something untrue that's just going to confuse other people and drag them all down, you should have just disapproved the comment, or replied to the first time I said it and made a correction. Instead of allowing the mistake to continue over multiple different posts to confuse and drag down other people, then replying to one of those people that were harmed from it saying "Why would you ever listen to him? He's horribly delusional about everything." Basically choosing for a while to allow a confusing mistake that could have easily been shut down before it started, then kicking me when I'm down telling everyone how broken I am.

I thought I've been doing a good thing always trying to help a lot of people, and I know I get things wrong sometimes but I thought I was mostly telling the truth and being helpful. But if I'm wrong about everything and only making more problems for the group, I should have just never made any account here. But I really thought I was helping at least some amount. If I put a small fraction of the care and effort to help into myself that I've been trying to always use to help other people, maybe I would have already fixed all my problems. And then I wouldn't have gotten all the enemies' attention either, them trying to curse me worse and worse every day, and trying to bind me down so bad that it's so hard to do any action that would help myself. But I honestly thought that I was doing the right thing, and that helping others is more important than helping myself. Sorry if I'm always wrong about everything, and all I do is confuse and harm everyone else with these mistakes, but I'm doing the best that I can do and trying to make the best outcome of the situation. You know this is a very difficult world for sensitive people, but I really am trying to do my best, even if the only thing you're able to see about me is all my problems. Not everyone is as strong as you, and not everyone is able to know what to do. I never pretended to be perfect, the way you seem to be able to be. My biggest mistake was caring about other people instead of myself, but that's just how my soul has always been. I got too much love, and only very little of it is for myself because I'm not as important as all the people I care about. I think I should be done writing any comments here ever again, and hopefully I'll be able to use that effort to help myself instead and start to not care about anyone else. I hope those rituals we're about to do will help me to be able to start to take care of myself better.


I would say do not stress this much about it. You got the age wrong, so what? You helped people so many times in past, and you continue to do so, everyone who is long enough on this forum know that you have no ill intentions.


I would just ignore this mistake, and move on. It happens to all of us sometimes.
Yeah, actually, Oly. You reminded me that I told you to stop trolling when you first came here, but now you've been helping people. You're good and don't need to be leaving.
 
Larissa666 said:
I would just ignore this mistake, and move on. It happens to all of us sometimes.
Thank you, but it's about much more than just this. Other things that are more private that you don't know about. I think I have been a lot more of a help than a problem, but I've been neglecting myself for a long time. I'm always wishing to do more to help myself, but the enemy puts so many more bindings and curses on me every day that it's so hard to take any action to help myself. But it's okay if I start with small steps. And then I'm so busy with all the work I gotta do, then all the effort that I put into helping everyone around me, that there's nothing left for myself. So I do need to stop caring about everyone else, and start taking care of myself instead. I need to think of myself as being worth more than all the people I care about, because I've been inside out, used up, and empty for a very long time and I can't keep going like that anymore. I need to have more of a care for myself, because my extreme loving/protective/caring personality is my biggest strength and my most difficult weakness at the same time. If I ever put anywhere as much effort in helping myself as I've thrown away towards other people, I would maybe already be perfect by now. Instead of having problems that feel like a permamnent curse.
 
The Alchemist7 said:
Stormblood said:
In a post some time ago, either Mageson or Cobra mentioend something: three waves of "creation". The first wave got it wrong; the second was something good like "homo erectus" or something, but still a failure; the third was us, the success, when their blood/genes were used.

I'll look it up and link it.
The first two "waves" were not "failures". The first "wave" was the black race, which is told to be physically stronger and resistant, the second "wave" was the yellow race which is told to be smarter/bigger intellect, the third "wave" was the white race which is told to be more spiritual than the others. No wonder why, I'm quite sure there are more white SS than all the other races and subraces combined.

Man, instead of making up stuff that wasn't written anywhere, look up the replies from the clergy and read them. Assumptions can only get you so far. Don't invent stuff just to make yourself look knowledgeable.
 
TopoftheAbyss said:
Since Asmodeus' mother is human and His father is a God, does it count as race mixing?
I guess not if the father is a human that achieved the Magnum Opus?

Race-mixing? Gods and humans are not two races but two species. If some Gods and Goddesses took human spouses, it means they choose someone compatible to them. If you complete the Magnum Opus, you become a deity. So the offspring can't be a demigod, but is a full god.
 
Ol argedco luciftias said:
Larissa666 said:
I would just ignore this mistake, and move on. It happens to all of us sometimes.
Thank you, but it's about much more than just this. Other things that are more private that you don't know about. I think I have been a lot more of a help than a problem, but I've been neglecting myself for a long time. I'm always wishing to do more to help myself, but the enemy puts so many more bindings and curses on me every day that it's so hard to take any action to help myself. But it's okay if I start with small steps. And then I'm so busy with all the work I gotta do, then all the effort that I put into helping everyone around me, that there's nothing left for myself. So I do need to stop caring about everyone else, and start taking care of myself instead. I need to think of myself as being worth more than all the people I care about, because I've been inside out, used up, and empty for a very long time and I can't keep going like that anymore. I need to have more of a care for myself, because my extreme loving/protective/caring personality is my biggest strength and my most difficult weakness at the same time. If I ever put anywhere as much effort in helping myself as I've thrown away towards other people, I would maybe already be perfect by now. Instead of having problems that feel like a permamnent curse.
Please take the time to empower and heal yourself
 
TopoftheAbyss said:
Since Asmodeus' mother is human and His father is a God, does it count as race mixing?
I guess not if the father is a human that achieved the Magnum Opus?

It counts as inter-species mixing which is probably as bad as race mixing.

But since humans are genetically compatible with the Gods, it's not a problem to them. If they did it beforehand it seems as long as they stick to the appropriate race, it's not a problem.
 
Stormblood said:
Man, instead of making up stuff that wasn't written anywhere, look up the replies from the clergy and read them. Assumptions can only get you so far. Don't invent stuff just to make yourself look knowledgeable.
Ok then expand what you said above about these 3 waves please, so I can understand better. I am curious about the first 2 waves being failures and why.
 
Ol argedco luciftias said:
Larissa666 said:
I would just ignore this mistake, and move on. It happens to all of us sometimes.
Thank you, but it's about much more than just this. Other things that are more private that you don't know about. I think I have been a lot more of a help than a problem, but I've been neglecting myself for a long time. I'm always wishing to do more to help myself, but the enemy puts so many more bindings and curses on me every day that it's so hard to take any action to help myself. But it's okay if I start with small steps. And then I'm so busy with all the work I gotta do, then all the effort that I put into helping everyone around me, that there's nothing left for myself. So I do need to stop caring about everyone else, and start taking care of myself instead. I need to think of myself as being worth more than all the people I care about, because I've been inside out, used up, and empty for a very long time and I can't keep going like that anymore. I need to have more of a care for myself, because my extreme loving/protective/caring personality is my biggest strength and my most difficult weakness at the same time. If I ever put anywhere as much effort in helping myself as I've thrown away towards other people, I would maybe already be perfect by now. Instead of having problems that feel like a permamnent curse.

I remember when you wrote about your problems several months ago. It is just that I have thought your situation has improved by now. Looks like it hasn't.


I do not know what are you battling right now, but I assume it is fairly difficult for you. I can relate to you on one level, and when I say this, I say it from experience: whatever you are facing right now, and no matter how it is hard for you, it can be overcome, and you can do it!


You are like the steel more it goes through the fire, stronger it becomes. Remember that.
 
Gear88 said:
It counts as inter-species mixing which is probably as bad as race mixing.

But since humans are genetically compatible with the Gods, it's not a problem to them. If they did it beforehand it seems as long as they stick to the appropriate race, it's not a problem.
Either you made a typo there or you are completely contradicting yourself.

It could be considered "inter-species" mixing if you're being very nitpicky about it, but the white race was created in the image of the Gods anyway so in reality I really wouldn't call it that.

The simple fact that many of our Gods (who are extemely intelligent and wise beings) willingly chose to take humans as their partners, is already more than enough to know that it is a completely acceptable thing to do.
 
Gear88 said:
TopoftheAbyss said:
Since Asmodeus' mother is human and His father is a God, does it count as race mixing?
I guess not if the father is a human that achieved the Magnum Opus?

It counts as inter-species mixing which is probably as bad as race mixing.

But since humans are genetically compatible with the Gods, it's not a problem to them. If they did it beforehand it seems as long as they stick to the appropriate race, it's not a problem.
We are the children of Satan, he put his own DNA into us. We are 100% the same species and the same race as the gods are. We are just a localized population in a different place, so there are some small differences caused by that, which would be fixed with magnum opus. So how is it any kind of mixing?
 
Stormblood said:
TopoftheAbyss said:
Since Asmodeus' mother is human and His father is a God, does it count as race mixing?
I guess not if the father is a human that achieved the Magnum Opus?

Race-mixing? Gods and humans are not two races but two species. If some Gods and Goddesses took human spouses, it means they choose someone compatible to them. If you complete the Magnum Opus, you become a deity. So the offspring can't be a demigod, but is a full god.
If they were separate species then mating with humanity would be a form of bestiality, because it would be copulating a higher order creature with a lower order one, as with a human and an animal. It would also mean that the offspring would struggle with infertility, as we can see with the liger and mule hybrids for example. This is not the case for humanity or any demigods that I'm aware of.

Then you might say that these issues are avoided by engineering the human/her egg to be compatible with the god and produce fertile offspring, or engineering the offspring itself. Well, at that point the differences are nullified and they're no longer totally different species like you say here. The gaps are closed.

You're also implying that completing the MO makes it okay to breed with different species, because the human wife became a deity after the MO and gods are deities as well, and they reproduced effectively, despite being "different species". By this logic, there would be no issues with blacks and whites mixing after finishing the MO because they're both deities, after all, and the difference between races is not any more significant than the difference between species.


Keep in mind, I'm not saying that the gods engage in bestiality or race mixing nor am I condoning it, just trying to show that what you said doesn't add up.

What I think is that the process took place more scientifically, until the human strain they were working on became effectively the same species as the gods, maybe more of an "ethnicity" than anything, IE whites/aryans. Then they bred with the best of these to uplift the species, as the human mothers didn't have as strong of a spiritual foundation that a nordic would have, producing demigods. This later became the aristocratic class that would direct and advance humanity in liasion with nordics.

But this is all conjecture and arguing about what really happened doesn't help accomplish anything.
 
I am not gonna pretend to know how did Father Satan make us to be same as Him, because I do not know.


But I am sure He wouldn’t let other Gods procreate with us if we weren’t Their blood. So, I am 100 percent sure we are not different race and species from Them.


How did Father manage to make us to be His blood, I do not know. One day we will find out.
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Satan

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