Hello everybody I'd like to resolve a over a decade ignorance that I have on energy.

As we know when we command or program energy aside from producing a result there is also an action word/s such as permanent, forever, and eternal can be used even if the action word isn't used a cycle of engraving days can produce results for a long time just simply the action word works for MUCH longer and also to stick the energy into the soul much more so. It's also been stated that 40/90 day or other numbers of day can be used to engrave into the soul however much or deep you wish to add to depending on how bad of a situation. Aside from that just recently I learned from Lydia responding to my thread. Visualization or directing further engraves and imprints an astral result in fact she states yes short to long can be used as for periods of times ranging from willing(few seconds) to many minutes. The longer you visualize the more permanent it becomes or engraves.

So judging from the situation length, programming, and visualizing produce more engraving.

But what about when energy is taken in and not programmed and more than likely not visualized. I have read that simply bringing energy in in many cases bleeds off your soul if your lucky. If your not lucky the energy gets maligned by your karma and mental imprint often resulting in path of least resistance i.e. negative scenarios. Like for example a Hatha/Kundalini Yogi experiencing negative effects from Yoga and producing poor realities much like Yogis state to keep your mind positive.

For example Ol Argedco Luciftan recently informed me of the vibration "Akashaum". So you breath in ultraviolet energy and vibrate Akashaum. He stated to me you may not need an affirmation. It doesn't hurt but not necessary.

So my question is judging what Akasha does to the soul in balancing the elements it's kaballah the parameters of it's action may not require an affirmation even though it doesn't hurt. My question is doesn't the Akasha energy bleed off and get potentially it may get programmed incorrectly? Or is it imbued into the soul and not coming out nor being improperly programmed nor visualized?

And the same for other energies. If I perform some pranayama does the effects of pranayama it's kaballah like balancing, bringing in MORE prana, absorbing prana through breath holds and whatnot etc.etc. does it not need to be programmed?

I guess what I'm trying to state is how paranoid should we be with programming and visualization? Or is it okay for sometimes to not need to program nor visualize?

Gear88 said:

So my question is judging what Akasha does to the soul in balancing the elements it's kaballah the parameters of it's action may not require an affirmation even though it doesn't hurt. My question is doesn't the Akasha energy bleed off and get potentially it may get programmed incorrectly? Or is it imbued into the soul and not coming out nor being improperly programmed nor visualized?
And the same for other energies.

I guess what I'm trying to state is how paranoid should we be with programming and visualization? Or is it okay for sometimes to not need to program nor visualize?

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From my understanding, when we talk about energies specifically, they are always programmed one way or another, whether that be through conscious programming, or just from the energies following your thoughts at the time.
The difference is, if the energies are not consciously programmed, then not only will they be weaker, but they will also more than likely dissipate, because your thoughts will likely be different each time and as such the energies will be lacking the consistent, daily programming that is necessary for successful manifestation and permanence.

As for Akasha specifically, we are talking about elemental energies. These are special in that they balance and affect the energies of your soul directly. You most likely could vibrate Akashaum (which is a weird mantra imo, but whatever) and not program the energies at all while still getting good effects. But I would say that it'd benefit you much more to consciously program them, just with a simple affirmation like "In a positive way for me, the energies of Akasha are balancing the elements in my soul". You can add permanence clauses and whatever else too, but I wouldn't see them as necessary here.

As for raising energy through other ways, like pranic breathing, I would advise to just keep your mind void and focus on actually feeling and amplifying the energies.

Shael said:

Gear88 said:

So my question is judging what Akasha does to the soul in balancing the elements it's kaballah the parameters of it's action may not require an affirmation even though it doesn't hurt. My question is doesn't the Akasha energy bleed off and get potentially it may get programmed incorrectly? Or is it imbued into the soul and not coming out nor being improperly programmed nor visualized?
And the same for other energies.

I guess what I'm trying to state is how paranoid should we be with programming and visualization? Or is it okay for sometimes to not need to program nor visualize?

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From my understanding, when we talk about energies specifically, they are always programmed one way or another, whether that be through conscious programming, or just from the energies following your thoughts at the time.
The difference is, if the energies are not consciously programmed, then not only will they be weaker, but they will also more than likely dissipate, because your thoughts will likely be different each time and as such the energies will be lacking the consistent, daily programming that is necessary for successful manifestation and permanence.

As for Akasha specifically, we are talking about elemental energies. These are special in that they balance and affect the energies of your soul directly. You most likely could vibrate Akashaum (which is a weird mantra imo, but whatever) and not program the energies at all while still getting good effects. But I would say that it'd benefit you much more to consciously program them, just with a simple affirmation like "In a positive way for me, the energies of Akasha are balancing the elements in my soul". You can add permanence clauses and whatever else too, but I wouldn't see them as necessary here.

As for raising energy through other ways, like pranic breathing, I would advise to just keep your mind void and focus on actually feeling and amplifying the energies.

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Akashaum i don't think it's right. In the Jos there is a page where Maxine added the AU to some elements mantra, like Tejas becomed Tejaus. Even if in this page there is not Akasha i think it would be Akausha, to make it more powerful.

Shael said:

From my understanding, when we talk about energies specifically, they are always programmed one way or another, whether that be through conscious programming, or just from the energies following your thoughts at the time.

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I really hate to state this cause I'm gonna get a stick across the head. But I've grown so tired of meditating not sure what it is with this burn out feeling, which I continue don't worry in fact after forcing myself for hatha/k-yoga I do feel better. But I believe my energies that I absorb are being programmed by my thoughts to a degree while programming with normal affirmations.

For example I like to meditate walking around(BTW this isn't just a gesture to my boredom perhaps it might be astrological there is an aspect that states nervous reserve of energies that require you to be active all the time) so I walk around my room and perform breathing exercises, or vibration of Akashaum(11 breaths), or performing auras or protection.

I will admit I've never been in a trance which I can state yes I've been in one consciously and everything felt weird just like trance meditators have stated. Nor voided, can I void sometimes just for a second or so. Usually how it breaks is I find myself thinking in some sort of extreme background am I doing it, is this void. I mean hell I've heard vibrating mantras with the mental voice is considered a form of void as for some the act of void is drowning out the background, mid-ground, and foreground of the mind. Despite the fact you should be quite sometimes the mental voice you speak is not precisely the factor of not being voided for example counting breaths when performing mindfulness(a.k.a. void)

Some might not get angry with me for not meditating properly in fact I feel many will state at least your doing something it's not 100% correct but it's a good try. So in essence I do feel bad talking and explaining myself cause people will think this guy is advanced. When in reality I'd say I'm still the same person I was back in 2003 when I dedicated and started meditation.

In other words like the whole West vs East statue where Eastern meditators state Western statues of the thinkers is the opposite of meditation. I've thought my way into meditation. I come up with ideas and attributes for meditation. Like I said in a previous thread meditation, National Socialism, and Spiritual Satanism have just become "Mental Curiosities" because it's my way of living. So meditation feels like the 800-pound gorilla in the room as I try and wrestle with it.

I know some people have had flashes of intuition with meditation but technically I get this sensation that it is completely wrong to invent meditations. I mean anyone can invent a meditation or invent one from scraping together other meditations. So for me unless it's by the book meditation I do not do it. I know that it is a fearful mentality but even other people have stated if such meditations can be done. Perhaps yes but I hate to sound like some xtian but the Gods aren't around and I'm no where near open to them to abridge meditations from them.

Shael said:

The difference is, if the energies are not consciously programmed, then not only will they be weaker, but they will also more than likely dissipate, because your thoughts will likely be different each time and as such the energies will be lacking the consistent, daily programming that is necessary for successful manifestation and permanence.

As for Akasha specifically, we are talking about elemental energies. These are special in that they balance and affect the energies of your soul directly. You most likely could vibrate Akashaum (which is a weird mantra imo, but whatever) and not program the energies at all while still getting good effects. But I would say that it'd benefit you much more to consciously program them, just with a simple affirmation like "In a positive way for me, the energies of Akasha are balancing the elements in my soul". You can add permanence clauses and whatever else too, but I wouldn't see them as necessary here.

As for raising energy through other ways, like pranic breathing, I would advise to just keep your mind void and focus on actually feeling and amplifying the energies.

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So what your stating in your quote is as long as what your doing with your mind is a conscious reasoning it is being imprinted to a degree but an affirmation a stronger imprint creates a more reasonable manifestation of the energies. Just using Argedco's example he states the understanding of Akahsa is it automatically goes to it's location of balancing the elements an affirmation might not be necessary. I have used a calculator to examine the percentage of elements and all of them are balanced to a natural degree obviously not balanced perfectly. In fact my elements compared to others charts might be quite balanced naturally but the only element missing past the 20% mark is air(17.7%).

I will readily admit my mind is very different each time. If I had to explain myself while I have a consistent background mindset when it comes to daily activities it changes. I guess if I had to explain better I have the same persistent thoughts; the operating system, but not always the same level of thoughts if that makes any sense.

Oh that is funny you mention permanent clauses aren't necessary I've always been under the assumption with balancing you'd want to generate a great long-lasting effect. I mean if you program just balancing it will eventually balance and whatnot but what about far in the future.

See this is something that kinda is my ignorance from the very beginning it's been mentioned to use clauses for permanence like permanent, eternal, or forever. And yet here you are stating it's not needed per say. It reminds me of doing Lydia's Vynn 88 vibration last year or two in 2017 or 2018 to assist in the removal of I believe depression. In fact it never had a permanence clause I did it as is for 40 days. Well the thing is it still imprints but wouldn't adding permanence produce a much deeper engraving I mean isn't the point to manifest in this lifetime and over many lifetimes to come.

I hate to state this as yes I've read much of the JoS site but is it possible that I might need to go to beginners 101 raising, programming, and directing energies in my case?

Many might state I'm overthinking it but I'm just trying to be assured. I will admit despite my blow-up with the threads I've posted, I have learned quite a bit in the past few weeks and about month or so than in my own world learning. I guess some might state I'm delving too deep into simple stuff that just requires a bit of arithmetic, JoS is saying 1+1 = 2 but here I'am trying to scientifically calculate if that is true.

how many types of energies are there is it infinite types?
i heard emotions like love and hate count as their own energy :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: