xlnt wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 4:18 pm
But one should not force it in, as Satanists aren't supposed to push Satanism.
There is a quote I intend to post in a new thread in the Internet Batallion section soon. It is "we mustn't force our way and culture upon other peoples; rather, breathe it in, become part of it". I expect it is more niche than known, but there is also further subtle understanding of that quote/where it's from, etc. It is more than a mere quote here.
It also says on the main website:
Spiritual Satanists acknowledge science and believe everything of the occult/supernatural to have a rational scientific explanation. We believe humanity has been held back dangerously in this area due to the hoax of Judeo/Christianity and its relentless attacks upon science for centuries.
We believe each and every person who is willing and respectful can have a personal relationship with Satan.
We believe in justice and just as martial artists are versed in the uses of Dim Mak and other aspects of physical combat, Spiritual Satanists are versed in the Black Arts of "magick" should they ever need them.
"Belief" is a mixed-up word. It means to accept as true/fact, but people also use it like faith - despite proof which is in opposition to the thing they believe/have faith in. We know justice exists, so we don't need to have any belief in it; but we accept that actual justice exists - just (((the "system"))) ignores actual justice.
Belief is not holding steadfastly to something; instead, accepting as true/fact and if something else comes and fine-tunes it or changes it, the belief changes; faith is denying all everything else, including direct and absolute proof contrary to the thing one has faith in - being closed-minded and deliberately ignorant of the actual truth. In an existence where we don't know much, we have to believe (accept as true and fact) that what HPS Maxine and HPHC tells us is true. We can still, however, test it and check if it is real, so then it is no longer having faith in it; it is fact; it is belief. Once we test Spiritual Satanic teachings and we find they are real, we still believe them; we still accept them as true and fact.
In the future, it won't be a belief in the sense of faith. It will be belief in the sense that we not only accept it as truth and fact, but we can observe and demonstrate it as truth and fact directly. Also some people say, e.g. "I believe I told you that already" or "I believe I went to the shop at that time"... not that they
believe it, but a softer way of making a direct claim, and also as accepting as fact that they said that or went there. The World understands "believe". If we start making big, bold claims, then we have to prove them; then belief, in the sense of having faith in those big, bold claims, is irrelevant; we still accept those big, bold claims as true - if we prove them true. It seems more that it is about testing things and then knowing the answer. A lot of the time, people confuse "belief" with "faith".
"You believe in Spiritual Satanism. I believe in the god of the bibles". "Believe" here has different meanings. We know Spiritual Satanism exists. We also know christianity exists. We believe in both Spiritual Satanism and christianity. We know justice exists. We believe in justice. Believing is an agreement, subscribing to that thing, to that school of thought, to that doctrine, as fact and truth. We know yahweh doesn't exist; we believe, accept as fact and truth, that yahweh doesn't exist; christians, while they say they know it does exist, only believe that is exists - both accepting as real without proof, and in the sense of having faith, ignoring everything contrary - that it exists. We believe/accept as real without proof that Nature is powerful and worthy, by which I mean we can use Nature - Paganism/Spiritual Satanism/Ancient Hinduism/Magick - to make things happen. We believe this; we accept it as real and true, and we can also test it, observe it and demonstrate it.
We believe/accept as real without proof that the teachings of Spiritual Satanism are real; christians believe/accept as real without proof that Spiritual Satanism is evil. Truth is whatever it is; we can update, fine-tune and correct/change things that we learn and know to make them better and improved. Satan does not want nor need gold-mining slaves; it might be a mistake that this was mentioned, and I presume back in 2002 to e.g. 2015 (at a guess) Satan wanting/needing gold-mining slaves, but then changing His mind and rebelling against the reptillians, etc., was accepted; now, we know it was never the case. We (before I joined JoS) believed/accepted as real and true that this was the case; now we believe/accept as real and true that it is not. It is left in for others to read about and explore further and know and understand more. It is also a jewish perversion and corruption, as well - I am typing about it here, as others have; people will read these things. If it was not left in, then it would be forgot about. We believe/accept as real without proof that justice works; a victim believes/accepts as real without proof that justice doesn't work, but I refer to actual justice, not (((justice "systems"))). We can test these things; christians may and must have only faith.
While we believe - accept as real and true - different things, belief can change. Faith is ignorant and deliberately-so, closed-minded, unforgiving, unrelenting, the person refusing to accept anything other than what they are sticking to, that which they have faith in, regardless of actual proof against it. We can prove christianity exists and we believe in christianity, for it does exist; we can prove christianity's teachings are false, we believe/accept as real and true that christianity's teachings are false by demonstrating, and having others observe, after we have tested, Spiritual Satanism teachings and Magick.