MGTOW Is Toxic

[HP Mageson666]

Stop thinking of yourself as such otherwise that is what your projecting out there.

Hi! This is quite a good post overall, but I have a question regarding this subject:
As a short and ugly male, how, by any chance, would I be able to escape Inceldom?
I agree that MGTOW/Incel is toxic and quite frankly deadly for men (bro you literally become a terrorist because of it, hence the starting point of the article), but what would be some solutions for it? How would I, a manlet somehow become 6'0" or above, and go from 0/10 truecel KHHV permavirgin to something worth looking at?

But in all fairness, this whole MGTOW/Incel thing is just another gig by (((We all know who))) to divide people, divide them so they cannot unite to fight (((them))).
I'm not disagreeing with anything you're saying, I was just wondering. Thank you for your responses.

HAIL SATAN AND THE GODS OF HELL! THE ERA OF THE JEWS SHALL COME TO AN END!

[ss666]

My apologies friends, in all my time browsing the MGTOW community I've never seen the toxic side of it.

Faulty Logic in MGTOW, misleading philosophy!

Let's take the best philosopher of MGTOW: "Groundwork For The Metaphysics of MGTOW"
He made this video - Let's see if it holds true

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bSMaTFbIXs
NWALT argument - deductive

NWALT stands for "Not all women are like that". The argument is then layed out as:

1) Premise: MGTOW assert that all women posses certain qualities and certain behaviours.
2) Counter examples exists of women who do not posses certain qualities and certain behaviours.

Therefore not all women are like what MGTOW describe

He then simplifies the statement 1 to statement 3 [my notation]:
- "All women posses certain qualities and certain behaviors"

He says that "certain qualities and certain behaviors" refers to those attributes for which the term "women" can be understood.
What are those certain "qualities and certain behaviors"? It doesn't matter because for the term woman to have any sense those "certain qualities and certain behaviors" must exists.

Statement 3 thus becomes:
"All women participate in the form of being a women"

So let's look at premise 2 again:
"2) Counter examples exists of women who do not posses certain qualities and certain behaviours."
Rephrasing statement 2 for statement 3 become:
"Women exits who do not participate in the for of being a woman"

He concludes that since Statement 2 and 3 are in contradiction than the NWALT argument is false.


The simplification that he made from statement (1) to statement (3) is a fallacy. As what MGTOW describe as women, is not what women is described/defined by any dictionary, academia or sane persons.
You can define as HP Cobra said once: Diarrhea of rhino as Golden Heavenly Elixir. Does this notation make the definition true by any margin. Absolutely not.

This is the misdirection that is constantly present in MGTOW!!!


MGTOW IS TOXIC


Let's see: "MGTOW - Women as Non-Human Beings"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1S032T2rro

That is not toxic at all...

This is like listening to a Communist lecture were bourgeois class is Females:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rGsQx1CzGE

Don't forget MGTOW teaches race-mixing is good [i've send the debunked version]:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0IOBsj4q3Q

Nope, nothing toxic in MGTOW...

[Lordbaphamet666]

Stop quoting me. I stopped giving a fuck.

[Godmode]

Hi! This is quite a good post overall, but I have a question regarding this subject:
As a short and ugly male, how, by any chance, would I be able to escape Inceldom?
I agree that MGTOW/Incel is toxic and quite frankly deadly for men (bro you literally become a terrorist because of it, hence the starting point of the article), but what would be some solutions for it? How would I, a manlet somehow become 6'0" or above, and go from 0/10 truecel KHHV permavirgin to something worth looking at?

But in all fairness, this whole MGTOW/Incel thing is just another gig by (((We all know who))) to divide people, divide them so they cannot unite to fight (((them))).
I'm not disagreeing with anything you're saying, I was just wondering. Thank you for your responses.

HAIL SATAN AND THE GODS OF HELL! THE ERA OF THE JEWS SHALL COME TO AN END!

Oh my god this post is cringe. But I will tell you why because I studied this movement a bit mainly because the people I associated with IRL so happened to get into it. Listen fella I'm 6'3, had girlfriends and am now involuntarily celibate as they would say. I'm involuntarily celibate because I have no choice but to follow my destiny and the truth and my destiny is too busybusybusy to fool around dating women I know in my heart I will not be marrying. And on the other side of me the girls I can pick up in town have been through so many other guys that look just like me that I wouldn't touch them with a ten-foot pole. I live where there's under 200,000 people and the girls hanging out in sportsbars have typically had 12 guys and are on the pill. Hook-up culture is a horrible lifestyle (the other side of MGTOW and PUA talk) and the best thing you can do is keep trying to find cool friends until you run into a girl who's really on-board with who you are as a man and as a Satanist and get to know her inside and out. If you do it correctly maybe you will never break up but its a learning process and its absolutely not a race. Any male SS Satanist on JoS claiming they are getting laid all the time has been deep into the jewish pussy and is a hypocritical race-mixer.

Also MGTOW is as well just a front for locker-room talk. If you want to have "talks with the guys" find a group of down-to-earth men to hang out with who you can learn from and teach as well. We men have so much to learn from each other and we let our egos get in the way so often. It is not a surprised so many men have been Jew'd by MGTOW because we have trouble being vulnerable around each other and teaching each other the necessities of life, regardless of age.

I will tell you the secret of race-mixing.
>Attractive white guy breaks white girls heart by convincing himself he could marry her.
>White girl is confused and cannot find another handsome/rich/sexual white guy to date her.
>White girl believes in myth that blacks are superior for them, perpetrated by the jews.
>White girl ends up with manlet black guy with 4.5 inch penis and hates herself for being a Beta Female
>White genocide

It is a very ugly truth to accept but men will actually treat you with the same hypgergamous and manipulative behaviors women treat you if you are speaking to the wrong men and women. You are superior to all those brainwashed, just accept it and live your life to the fullest with the best friends you can find. If you're like me and true friends are rare, you can spend time here on the forums and talk to others who are actually on the same page when it comes to love. There is a truth and the truth is good and that is what MGTOW totally ignores as they think the truth has to be somehow bad for it to be the truth.

[Snell'sLaw]

Stop thinking of yourself as such otherwise that is what your projecting out there.

Hi! This is quite a good post overall, but I have a question regarding this subject:
As a short and ugly male, how, by any chance, would I be able to escape Inceldom?
I agree that MGTOW/Incel is toxic and quite frankly deadly for men (bro you literally become a terrorist because of it, hence the starting point of the article), but what would be some solutions for it? How would I, a manlet somehow become 6'0" or above, and go from 0/10 truecel KHHV permavirgin to something worth looking at?

But in all fairness, this whole MGTOW/Incel thing is just another gig by (((We all know who))) to divide people, divide them so they cannot unite to fight (((them))).
I'm not disagreeing with anything you're saying, I was just wondering. Thank you for your responses.

HAIL SATAN AND THE GODS OF HELL! THE ERA OF THE JEWS SHALL COME TO AN END!

Thanks for the replay and actually good advice (didn't know it was so easy), so to actually get some SMV and worth in the eyes of women as a romantic and sexual being and a human and not just a wallet on legs I just need to think of myself as having such value (confidence)?

With all due respect, I was also wondering what your reaction on this dude's article defending Incels would be:
https://incels.me/threads/evolutionary- ... der.39777/
(I thought and still do think that Incels are retarded, as well as this article itself, but IDK how to debunk anything in here, I'm at a dead end w/ it ....)

[MoonlessNight666]

Lol I hate this is my first post on the forums but Im also somone who had issues regaring to me physical apperiance in the past and the one thing that seemed to help me a lot was power meditation. After a good sej. not only I would feel ALOT better but over time I also started to become more handsome,almost like a 2.0 version of myself . People outside these forums would find this idea nuts but I know yall get me.


Also since we are on the subject on partnership there is something I have been wanting to open for discussion for a minute, what do u guys think about having a partner from a different sub group of your own race?

Sometime ago I read that when the gods look at races they dont see Swiss or Greek or German ect they just see the white race as a whole. I have pale skin with dark eyes and Dark hair and my boyfriend has red hair with blue eyes and we find each other very attractive but sometimes I almost catch my self thinking if I should have taken a partner from my own nationality?

What do you all think let me know

[HP Mageson666]

I don't care..... Just look at yourself here a guy with low self-esteem about attracting the ladies and is ears deep in this Mgtow nonsense...... I don't need a long winded intellectual rationalization of the same.

Thanks for the replay and actually good advice (didn't know it was so easy), so to actually get some SMV and worth in the eyes of women as a romantic and sexual being and a human and not just a wallet on legs I just need to think of myself as having such value (confidence)?

With all due respect, I was also wondering what your reaction on this dude's article defending Incels would be:
https://incels.me/threads/evolutionary- ... der.39777/
(I thought and still do think that Incels are retarded, as well as this article itself, but IDK how to debunk anything in here, I'm at a dead end w/ it ....)

[ss666]

Lol I hate this is my first post on the forums but Im also somone who had issues regaring to me physical apperiance in the past and the one thing that seemed to help me a lot was power meditation. After a good sej. not only I would feel ALOT better but over time I also started to become more handsome,almost like a 2.0 version of myself . People outside these forums would find this idea nuts but I know yall get me.


Also since we are on the subject on partnership there is something I have been wanting to open for discussion for a minute, what do u guys think about having a partner from a different sub group of your own race?

Sometime ago I read that when the gods look at races they dont see Swiss or Greek or German ect they just see the white race as a whole. I have pale skin with dark eyes and Dark hair and my boyfriend has red hair with blue eyes and we find each other very attractive but sometimes I almost catch my self thinking if I should have taken a partner from my own nationality?

What do you all think let me know

Those articles will make you understand more about race. From what you described both of you are White, so you are not race-mixing. I see no problems, it can actually be in your charts that you are attracted by people from other nationalities.

God, Race, Existence and the Future:
https://web.archive.org/web/20170720071 ... 11616.html

Race-Mixing:
https://web.archive.org/web/20170724024 ... 19167.html

Racial Egalitarianism Is Jewish:
http://web.archive.org/web/201603101414 ... Jewish.pdf

[NaziMan12]

MGTOW just seems to be a spin-off of the culture that placed restrictions upon women in historical times, Christianity and Islamic culture. Women are already free prey to men who wish to break the law and are willing to accept a prison sentence. This MGTOW wants to distract people from the fact that women are brave souls via publishing pseudo-science about not only women but life in general.

[NaziMan12]

MGTOW just seems to be a spin-off of the culture that placed restrictions upon women in historical times, Christianity and Islamic culture. Women are already free prey to men who wish to break the law and are willing to accept a prison sentence. This MGTOW wants to distract people from the fact that women are brave souls via publishing pseudo-science about not only women but life in general.

MGTOW culture is the culture of America and is the result of a Judaized society. If society recognized the Jewish control, and influence and understood the Jews as their enemies then the people would have a correct frame of mind. The education system does not look at things from the view point of a true Nazi and this is the only reason MGTOW culture exists because MGTOW culture is created from a lack of that frame of mind (racialism).

[Godmode]

What Mageson said, its classic advice, you won't find love until you aren't looking. It doesnt say anything about your looks, sexuality or soul that you can't get laid you just want attention. So instead of trying to get it from girls just learn how to make cool stuff and show it off or something to get the attention you need. The bonus is that when doing it that way, instead of feeling guilt over not knowing if your last girlfriend was jewish or not, you'll feel happy creating a product that was somehow wholesomely beneficial to society. If that's what MGTOW calls incel (which it is) then most of MGTOW must be kikes that can't get laid.

[hailourtruegod]

Hi! This is quite a good post overall, but I have a question regarding this subject:
As a short and ugly male, how, by any chance, would I be able to escape Inceldom?
I agree that MGTOW/Incel is toxic and quite frankly deadly for men (bro you literally become a terrorist because of it, hence the starting point of the article), but what would be some solutions for it? How would I, a manlet somehow become 6'0" or above, and go from 0/10 truecel KHHV permavirgin to something worth looking at?

But in all fairness, this whole MGTOW/Incel thing is just another gig by (((We all know who))) to divide people, divide them so they cannot unite to fight (((them))).
I'm not disagreeing with anything you're saying, I was just wondering. Thank you for your responses.

HAIL SATAN AND THE GODS OF HELL! THE ERA OF THE JEWS SHALL COME TO AN END!

Like Godmode said, this is kind cringey bro. Height is shouldn't be something to feel bad about WHATSOEVER. It's crazy because I never realized how height was so important to idiotic normies until a few years after high school. I'm under 6 feet tall and I've never had a problem hooking up with women or dating pretty women. Having even been with taller ones. Because I never was afraid to speak to them back or now. I was always and am confident and they picked up on this confidence. I was never conscience about that height mattered in the dating arena tbh until I started hearing insecure short men complaining or insecure tall men talking shit about shorter guys to make themselves feel better. Also you don't want to be with women who just care about height. They'd get with a guy with a horrible personality JUST because they're tall? No good person would want a mate that has a mindset like that.

If you have trouble raising your confidence then this might be a problem with your soul so do something to change it like working or even doing a simple affirmation everyday. If it's that serious if not then like HP Mageson said, stop looking at yourself in a negative way.

Also no one should be a fat slob and expect women to want to be with them unless you're trying to find someone who's equally disgusting. I'm talking in general btw. Or for example how most if not all MGTOW losers are.

We are here to be the best version of ourselves and this goes for the physical part too. You don't need to go overboard trying to look good... unless you want to? Lol. but it's not necessary as most women aren't shallow people who just go for only looks. If you want to look good or beyond that then the best reason imo is because you are doing it for yourself.

The way the media portrays women is that they just want a man with a lot of money, a 18 inch dick and looks like a bodybuilder. He can be brain dead and soulless too... Lol. If guys would stop getting their information on how women supposedly act from Jewish sources they would understand women way better by actually interacting with them. They aren't mystical beings but are just different from a man because that's how nature works. Then it breaks down to each race and more because of culture etc etc. Hope I'm making sense here xD.

[Poweredbythesun]

Huh, I actually feel bad for defending MGTOW now. I left their community for a few weeks and actually feel better, just remembered about a utuber I used to watch every day, and I couldn't stop cringing the entire time he was talking (while watching a video of his today).

What's worse too is most of them are so close to the truth, but either deny it's the Jews. Or they only spout "Take Women's rights away" (Or both)


Maybe it's my long lost lover reconnecting with me that pulled me out of their community, but whatever it is I'm glad I got out. There is NOTHING of use there, just the same points being restated over and over again. Though. . . They do make a good candidates for dropping links to our sites

[luis]

Huh, I actually feel bad for defending MGTOW now. I left their community for a few weeks and actually feel better, just remembered about a utuber I used to watch every day, and I couldn't stop cringing the entire time he was talking (while watching a video of his today).

What's worse too is most of them are so close to the truth, but either deny it's the Jews. Or they only spout "Take Women's rights away" (Or both)


Maybe it's my long lost lover reconnecting with me that pulled me out of their community, but whatever it is I'm glad I got out. There is NOTHING of use there, just the same points being restated over and over again. Though. . . They do make a good candidates for dropping links to our sites

You cleaned your soul and advanced so now it seems even weird that you liked that, am i right? This happened to me many times with many things that i thought were good but with advancement i understood that It was not the case.

[beareroflightandtrth83]

Its just reverse-feminism. If you're a young intelligent person you should just love women and not worry about fucking courting them and marrying them haha. It seem like that stuff should just get easier as you age and MGTOW is made up of guys who never grew up.

Sometimes you also have someone so obsessed with the whole question of dating and especially obsessed with proving "looks dont matter" you end up with some malnourished guy in a wheelchair on welfare with a trophy-wife saying "look see I'm proof anyone can get a good wife with no money." And the wife is like "I'm proof I don't need a man to define me". Lmfao.
I wonder when we're going to get a title for that stance... maybe Unisexism? Asexuogamy? I think these MGTOW guys just ache for Hitler's National Socialism inside

Hahaha..... that's a good one.... LOL