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Re: The Kevala Pranayama

Postby HP. Hoodedcobra666 » Thu Sep 19, 2019 3:46 pm

I vouch for this particular breath also.

It's important to always remember that Pranayama is one part of the 8 fold path, another corruption in the East is extreme focus solely on the Pranayama, which if done past a point and continuously, can cause nervous disorders.

Common corruptions include extreme holds, extreme exhales, violent breaths, and strange breaths produced without any insight or care, are common in the east, so be careful of what you read and tread cautiously.

If you feel bad, immediately stop doing a Pranayama.
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Re: The Kevala Pranayama

Postby HPS Shannon » Thu Sep 19, 2019 4:23 pm

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Re: The Kevala Pranayama

Postby Shael » Thu Sep 19, 2019 4:46 pm

Thank you for providing additional intel on this exercise. I think should be very powerful to add this into one's daily routine alongside the sun & moon breath.
This exercise would also be great to have on the JoS website in the pranayama section in my opinion, once time allows it of course. :)
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Re: The Kevala Pranayama

Postby Aquarius » Thu Sep 19, 2019 4:54 pm

HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:I vouch for this particular breath also.

It's important to always remember that Pranayama is one part of the 8 fold path, another corruption in the East is extreme focus solely on the Pranayama, which if done past a point and continuously, can cause nervous disorders.

Common corruptions include extreme holds, extreme exhales, violent breaths, and strange breaths produced without any insight or care, are common in the east, so be careful of what you read and tread cautiously.

If you feel bad, immediately stop doing a Pranayama.
I can vouch for this, when I was new I just took the tibetan breaths and did them carelessly and I fainted from doing them too but continued, that did cause some problems... I would go back and slap me for being so dumb.
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Re: The Kevala Pranayama

Postby Egon » Thu Sep 19, 2019 5:02 pm

HP Mageson666 wrote:The same reason the area to focus on the end of the nose was moved from underneath the nose.


So the corrupted is the tip of the nose and the correct is this?

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Re: The Kevala Pranayama

Postby Dypet Rod » Thu Sep 19, 2019 5:32 pm

Fascinating!
As I read the first few parts, I stopped to give it a try, without having quite understood which point of the nose I should focus upon. I interpreted it as being the narrow top part of the nose between the eyebrows. Nevertheless, I focused on that point while doing the breath, and that point started pulsating vigorously! Might also have to do with the fact that I've been doing work on my 6th chakra. But this practice is incredibly powerful and stimulating!

Thanks for sharing, HP.
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Re: The Kevala Pranayama

Postby Stormblood » Thu Sep 19, 2019 5:40 pm

Dypet Rod wrote:Fascinating!
As I read the first few parts, I stopped to give it a try, without having quite understood which point of the nose I should focus upon. I interpreted it as being the narrow top part of the nose between the eyebrows. Nevertheless, I focused on that point while doing the breath, and that point started pulsating vigorously! Might also have to do with the fact that I've been doing work on my 6th chakra. But this practice is incredibly powerful and stimulating!

Thanks for sharing, HP.


It seems we both had a misconception about what the philtrum is. What you described is the first eye/centre of clairvoyance: you've been breathing in through that. What I thought it was is the meaty part directly in-between the nostrils. A quick look on the search engine showed I was wrong. Egon seems also to have a posted a picture showing what the philtrum is.
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Re: The Kevala Pranayama

Postby 94n » Thu Sep 19, 2019 6:23 pm

Egon wrote:
HP Mageson666 wrote:The same reason the area to focus on the end of the nose was moved from underneath the nose.


So the corrupted is the tip of the nose and the correct is this?

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In between the two nostrils, which I'm assuming is this:

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The columella in fig. c.
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Re: The Kevala Pranayama

Postby luis » Thu Sep 19, 2019 6:29 pm

Stormblood wrote:
Dypet Rod wrote:Fascinating!
As I read the first few parts, I stopped to give it a try, without having quite understood which point of the nose I should focus upon. I interpreted it as being the narrow top part of the nose between the eyebrows. Nevertheless, I focused on that point while doing the breath, and that point started pulsating vigorously! Might also have to do with the fact that I've been doing work on my 6th chakra. But this practice is incredibly powerful and stimulating!

Thanks for sharing, HP.


It seems we both had a misconception about what the philtrum is. What you described is the first eye/centre of clairvoyance: you've been breathing in through that. What I thought it was is the meaty part directly in-between the nostrils. A quick look on the search engine showed I was wrong. Egon seems also to have a posted a picture showing what the philtrum is.

By reading the previous sermon I thought the same thing as you but now HP Mageson clearly wrote that is the philtrum that we should concentrate on so now I don't have any doubts...

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Re: The Kevala Pranayama

Postby Stormblood » Thu Sep 19, 2019 6:48 pm

luis wrote:
Stormblood wrote:
Dypet Rod wrote:Fascinating!
As I read the first few parts, I stopped to give it a try, without having quite understood which point of the nose I should focus upon. I interpreted it as being the narrow top part of the nose between the eyebrows. Nevertheless, I focused on that point while doing the breath, and that point started pulsating vigorously! Might also have to do with the fact that I've been doing work on my 6th chakra. But this practice is incredibly powerful and stimulating!

Thanks for sharing, HP.


It seems we both had a misconception about what the philtrum is. What you described is the first eye/centre of clairvoyance: you've been breathing in through that. What I thought it was is the meaty part directly in-between the nostrils. A quick look on the search engine showed I was wrong. Egon seems also to have a posted a picture showing what the philtrum is.

By reading the previous sermon I thought the same thing as you but now HP Mageson clearly wrote that is the philtrum that we should concentrate on so now I don't have any doubts...


Oddly, I thought the philtrum was the columnella. I'm glad this has been cleared. The columnella didn't give me as strong an experience as the philtrum.
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Re: The Kevala Pranayama

Postby luis » Thu Sep 19, 2019 6:53 pm

Stormblood wrote:
luis wrote:
Stormblood wrote:
It seems we both had a misconception about what the philtrum is. What you described is the first eye/centre of clairvoyance: you've been breathing in through that. What I thought it was is the meaty part directly in-between the nostrils. A quick look on the search engine showed I was wrong. Egon seems also to have a posted a picture showing what the philtrum is.

By reading the previous sermon I thought the same thing as you but now HP Mageson clearly wrote that is the philtrum that we should concentrate on so now I don't have any doubts...


Oddly, I thought the philtrum was the columnella. I'm glad this has been cleared. The columnella didn't give me as strong an experience as the philtrum.

Same, actually now I see that it makes sense that is the philtrum because even if I focus lightly on it I already "fell it" instead I cannot fell the same pressure while focusing on the columella at all. Plus I didn't do the retention of breath before nor the placing of the tongue behind my two front teeth. Now we have the complete breath at least.

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Re: The Kevala Pranayama

Postby HP Mageson666 » Thu Sep 19, 2019 7:16 pm

The nadi point is between the two nostrils the under part of the nose.

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Postby HP Mageson666 » Thu Sep 19, 2019 7:19 pm

This in my opinion solves the mystery of Nadi Shodhana there are three main nadis so where is the method for the middle nadi.

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Re: The Kevala Pranayama

Postby SATchives » Thu Sep 19, 2019 7:20 pm

luis wrote:
Stormblood wrote:
Dypet Rod wrote:Fascinating!
As I read the first few parts, I stopped to give it a try, without having quite understood which point of the nose I should focus upon. I interpreted it as being the narrow top part of the nose between the eyebrows. Nevertheless, I focused on that point while doing the breath, and that point started pulsating vigorously! Might also have to do with the fact that I've been doing work on my 6th chakra. But this practice is incredibly powerful and stimulating!

Thanks for sharing, HP.


It seems we both had a misconception about what the philtrum is. What you described is the first eye/centre of clairvoyance: you've been breathing in through that. What I thought it was is the meaty part directly in-between the nostrils. A quick look on the search engine showed I was wrong. Egon seems also to have a posted a picture showing what the philtrum is.

By reading the previous sermon I thought the same thing as you but now HP Mageson clearly wrote that is the philtrum that we should concentrate on so now I don't have any doubts...


He clearly stated the columnella from what I read.

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Re: The Kevala Pranayama

Postby HP Mageson666 » Thu Sep 19, 2019 7:22 pm

What is your problem, its like you don't believe in the texts that tell people to hold your breath for three fooking hours literally as the superior method of holding your breath. Its like you just don't believe in clown struggle pranayama or something. If you paint your face like a clown and hold a rainbow you can just maybe make such happen. Magic everywhere in this bitch!

HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:I vouch for this particular breath also.

It's important to always remember that Pranayama is one part of the 8 fold path, another corruption in the East is extreme focus solely on the Pranayama, which if done past a point and continuously, can cause nervous disorders.

Common corruptions include extreme holds, extreme exhales, violent breaths, and strange breaths produced without any insight or care, are common in the east, so be careful of what you read and tread cautiously.

If you feel bad, immediately stop doing a Pranayama.

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Re: The Kevala Pranayama

Postby Eric13 » Thu Sep 19, 2019 9:51 pm

Great meditation. Thank you HP, really appreciate this advice. Each meditation session is like a drop hollowing the rock. This felt like adding more drops. Highly recommend.

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Re: The Kevala Pranayama

Postby HP. Hoodedcobra666 » Fri Sep 20, 2019 12:06 am

As Rabbi Shlomo added: "If you hold your breath for 20 minutes, you become like your goy evil God Shiva, you become Blue, and then you ascend, trust me goy I have 20 years of Reiki experience."



HP Mageson666 wrote:What is your problem, its like you don't believe in the texts that tell people to hold your breath for three fooking hours literally as the superior method of holding your breath. Its like you just don't believe in clown struggle pranayama or something. If you paint your face like a clown and hold a rainbow you can just maybe make such happen. Magic everywhere in this bitch!

HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:I vouch for this particular breath also.

It's important to always remember that Pranayama is one part of the 8 fold path, another corruption in the East is extreme focus solely on the Pranayama, which if done past a point and continuously, can cause nervous disorders.

Common corruptions include extreme holds, extreme exhales, violent breaths, and strange breaths produced without any insight or care, are common in the east, so be careful of what you read and tread cautiously.

If you feel bad, immediately stop doing a Pranayama.
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Re: The Kevala Pranayama

Postby HP. Hoodedcobra666 » Fri Sep 20, 2019 12:15 am

Focusing on the middle of the nostrils where the paths connect, makes total sense. Do not confuse it with the upper lip space [where your upper lip touches your skin, at this point].

Now, someone stated about the focus on the upper lip. Middle of the nostrils is not this place, it's not upper lip area. This region is not a particular very good one as it's associated with passive energy [Yin] and forgetfulness, and amnesia. If you focus on the philtrum, the above feeling may arise. This is a heavy Yin area. This is why it's said that people lose their memories due to this area, because there is a lot of Yin energy there.

In Kung-fu practice that is a place where a person can be knocked from or die. It's also known to cause disorders, and it's one of these points that can knock people senseless.

The Columella is not the Philtrum. The Columella is an active circuit area, and active. This is why if you focus there properly, you'll probably feel alertness, and not lethargy.

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Re: The Kevala Pranayama

Postby HP. Hoodedcobra666 » Fri Sep 20, 2019 12:19 am

The tongue behind the teeth, touches the two nerves of your frontal teeth. These two sides correspond to the Ida and the Pigala. Touch your tongue there helps stimulate both at the same time. Each of the front teeth, correspond to each at the side.

Your tongue does not need to be inverted as it's claimed in some books, or forcefully pressed, it just needs to touch. Your teeth do not have to touch either.
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Re: The Kevala Pranayama

Postby SATchives » Fri Sep 20, 2019 1:35 am

HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:Focusing on the middle of the nostrils where the paths connect, makes total sense. Do not confuse it with the upper lip space [where your upper lip touches your skin, at this point].

Now, someone stated about the focus on the upper lip. Middle of the nostrils is not this place, it's not upper lip area. This region is not a particular very good one as it's associated with passive energy [Yin] and forgetfulness, and amnesia. If you focus on the philtrum, the above feeling may arise. This is a heavy Yin area. This is why it's said that people lose their memories due to this area, because there is a lot of Yin energy there.

In Kung-fu practice that is a place where a person can be knocked from or die. It's also known to cause disorders, and it's one of these points that can knock people senseless.

The Columella is not the Philtrum. The Columella is an active circuit area, and active. This is why if you focus there properly, you'll probably feel alertness, and not lethargy.

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Thank you this is what I thought because when I did it I felt power and positivity when I focused inbetween the nostrils. above the lip I felt less a lot less

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Re: The Kevala Pranayama

Postby Stormblood » Fri Sep 20, 2019 2:54 am

HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:Focusing on the middle of the nostrils where the paths connect, makes total sense. Do not confuse it with the upper lip space [where your upper lip touches your skin, at this point].

Now, someone stated about the focus on the upper lip. Middle of the nostrils is not this place, it's not upper lip area. This region is not a particular very good one as it's associated with passive energy [Yin] and forgetfulness, and amnesia. If you focus on the philtrum, the above feeling may arise. This is a heavy Yin area. This is why it's said that people lose their memories due to this area, because there is a lot of Yin energy there.

In Kung-fu practice that is a place where a person can be knocked from or die. It's also known to cause disorders, and it's one of these points that can knock people senseless.

The Columella is not the Philtrum. The Columella is an active circuit area, and active. This is why if you focus there properly, you'll probably feel alertness, and not lethargy.

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Thank you for explaining this. So moving from the columnella to the philtrum was a mistake. The philtrum was mentioned only because it's used by the enemy, then? Great to hear.
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Re: The Kevala Pranayama

Postby Dypet Rod » Fri Sep 20, 2019 2:55 am

Stormblood wrote:
Dypet Rod wrote:Fascinating!
As I read the first few parts, I stopped to give it a try, without having quite understood which point of the nose I should focus upon. I interpreted it as being the narrow top part of the nose between the eyebrows. Nevertheless, I focused on that point while doing the breath, and that point started pulsating vigorously! Might also have to do with the fact that I've been doing work on my 6th chakra. But this practice is incredibly powerful and stimulating!

Thanks for sharing, HP.


It seems we both had a misconception about what the philtrum is. What you described is the first eye/centre of clairvoyance: you've been breathing in through that. What I thought it was is the meaty part directly in-between the nostrils. A quick look on the search engine showed I was wrong. Egon seems also to have a posted a picture showing what the philtrum is.


Actually, the part that first made me think of focusing on the first eye area was the "tip of the nose" part. But when I read along and got to the philtrum part, I thought the same as you did; that it was the bottom of the septum.

But now knowing what the philtrum really is, this may sound kinda funny but I wonder: perhaps the style in which Adolf Hitler wore his mustache is actually related to the philtrum? Like his mustache symbolized a doorway to the sushumna?
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Re: The Kevala Pranayama

Postby Rambo » Fri Sep 20, 2019 7:09 am

Da quello che ho notato io con il trattenere il respiro a lungo é che mi fa avanzare nella mia forza fisica. Non so se dopo un punto, dato che io trattengo Il fiato al massimo della mia prestazione, fa anche aumentare il Prana sempre di piú, peró mi fa avanzare nella prestazione fisica. Devo peró dire che Il vero Prana sale quando medito von le tecniche che ci insegna Bin Don.

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Re: The Kevala Pranayama

Postby luis » Fri Sep 20, 2019 7:57 am

SATchives wrote:
HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:Focusing on the middle of the nostrils where the paths connect, makes total sense. Do not confuse it with the upper lip space [where your upper lip touches your skin, at this point].

Now, someone stated about the focus on the upper lip. Middle of the nostrils is not this place, it's not upper lip area. This region is not a particular very good one as it's associated with passive energy [Yin] and forgetfulness, and amnesia. If you focus on the philtrum, the above feeling may arise. This is a heavy Yin area. This is why it's said that people lose their memories due to this area, because there is a lot of Yin energy there.

In Kung-fu practice that is a place where a person can be knocked from or die. It's also known to cause disorders, and it's one of these points that can knock people senseless.

The Columella is not the Philtrum. The Columella is an active circuit area, and active. This is why if you focus there properly, you'll probably feel alertness, and not lethargy.

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Thank you this is what I thought because when I did it I felt power and positivity when I focused inbetween the nostrils. above the lip I felt less a lot less

Well i have to say that with the previous breath (the breathing in and out while focusing on the columella) i didn't feel that much but i think it's because it's not the breathing gived here where we retain the breath while focusing on that part. I'm going to try it now and see what i feel.

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Re: The Kevala Pranayama

Postby Donovandal » Fri Sep 20, 2019 9:08 am

Very interesting, and unique experiences i have with this breath technique, and it's very addicting in my case for some reason, i will be careful to not overdose it.

Thank you for sharing HP.

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Re: The Kevala Pranayama

Postby Savitar » Fri Sep 20, 2019 10:54 am

I reccomend building up alternate nostril breahting slowly and gradually from 4-16-8 to 16-64-32 as the very maximum.
It’s crucial not to force the kumbakha (breath retention) or it will have the opposite effect. Instead of stilling the mind (and thus aiding in channeling energy into the central nadi) it will agitate and disturb pranic energies.

The only reason for practicing high rep/lower count is to get a good routine. Once practiced enough, you can fully concentrate on mentally vibrating mantras and applying body locks properly while doing the breathing execise simultaneously.

Breath of Fire is exellent for a quick preparation, since it oxiginates the whole body, strengthens the lungs and increases the healthy capacity of breath retention.
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Postby ShadowTheRaven » Fri Sep 20, 2019 10:54 am

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Re: The Kevala Pranayama

Postby Shael » Fri Sep 20, 2019 11:22 am

HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:Focusing on the middle of the nostrils where the paths connect, makes total sense. Do not confuse it with the upper lip space [where your upper lip touches your skin, at this point].

Now, someone stated about the focus on the upper lip. Middle of the nostrils is not this place, it's not upper lip area. This region is not a particular very good one as it's associated with passive energy [Yin] and forgetfulness, and amnesia. If you focus on the philtrum, the above feeling may arise. This is a heavy Yin area. This is why it's said that people lose their memories due to this area, because there is a lot of Yin energy there.

In Kung-fu practice that is a place where a person can be knocked from or die. It's also known to cause disorders, and it's one of these points that can knock people senseless.

The Columella is not the Philtrum. The Columella is an active circuit area, and active. This is why if you focus there properly, you'll probably feel alertness, and not lethargy.

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Thank you for the clarification. I also felt much more effect from focusing on the columella. The philtrum gave me a bad feeling. I honestly would have kept doing it with the columella regardless simply because it felt miles better, regardless of what other members may have stated.
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Re: The Kevala Pranayama

Postby HP Mageson666 » Fri Sep 20, 2019 11:27 am

Somewhere deep in Israel Rabbi Jewggulo-witz, was sitting bent over in his chair with his face between his legs, turd eye gazing, engaged in the sacred practice of the magical mysteries of the fart huffing of the shitkinah.

The Rabbi was shaken out of the shitkinah state by the door suddenly opening and his two assistants walking in and stating excitedly "Rabbi we have found the ultimate Soy Goy you wanted!" As Rabbi Jewggulo-witz looked upwards his face painted with clown make up including Hebrew letters. The Rabbi stated " did he pass the test?" To which one of his assistants a camel faced globin looking ghoul stated happy " Yes Rabbi! He successfully held his breath for three hours straight the brainwave graph showed nothing changed in his mental activity it stayed the same the mental output of a plant. He is the perfect Soy Goy a real Goylem!"

The Rabbi gave an evil smile and rubbed his hands together and exclaimed "Excellent bring him in he will be the vehicle of the most powerful form of Juju magic, kosher clown magic! He will be the Soylent Golem to bring the Goyim of America to their knees for us!" Exclaimed the Rabbi with sardonic glee.

As the Golem walked into the darkly lit room it moved clumsily towards the Rabbi's desk as the Golem came to a mindless halt in front of the Rabbi, its empty gaze and drool running down his chin it just spoke one phrase: "Muh name is Beto.....Beto Gump."


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Postby ASQV13886662080 » Fri Sep 20, 2019 9:16 pm

Thank you so much for uniting these concepts of the Sun and Moon breath with the Kevala breath.

Any time I think of the Sun and Moon breath, I remember Savitar on here speaking about balancing the five winds in which the supernatural and MO are attainable after it's healed the body.

Adding this Kevala will really complete a lot of SS regimens.

As for people discussing the location of this particular nadi, I remembered that one of the "minor" facial nadis as shown on the JoS are located at this point:

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Re: The Kevala Pranayama

Postby Cacique Satanás » Sun Oct 13, 2019 3:05 am

HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:Focusing on the middle of the nostrils where the paths connect, makes total sense. Do not confuse it with the upper lip space [where your upper lip touches your skin, at this point].

Now, someone stated about the focus on the upper lip. Middle of the nostrils is not this place, it's not upper lip area. This region is not a particular very good one as it's associated with passive energy [Yin] and forgetfulness, and amnesia. If you focus on the philtrum, the above feeling may arise. This is a heavy Yin area. This is why it's said that people lose their memories due to this area, because there is a lot of Yin energy there.

In Kung-fu practice that is a place where a person can be knocked from or die. It's also known to cause disorders, and it's one of these points that can knock people senseless.

The Columella is not the Philtrum. The Columella is an active circuit area, and active. This is why if you focus there properly, you'll probably feel alertness, and not lethargy.

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Hope this helps our members to clarify things and make them easier to understand.

I found this clear pic for the Columella, is here where we have to put our mental focus?
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Re: The Kevala Pranayama

Postby SS66610888 » Sun Oct 20, 2019 9:09 pm

HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:Focusing on the middle of the nostrils where the paths connect, makes total sense. Do not confuse it with the upper lip space [where your upper lip touches your skin, at this point].

Now, someone stated about the focus on the upper lip. Middle of the nostrils is not this place, it's not upper lip area. This region is not a particular very good one as it's associated with passive energy [Yin] and forgetfulness, and amnesia. If you focus on the philtrum, the above feeling may arise. This is a heavy Yin area. This is why it's said that people lose their memories due to this area, because there is a lot of Yin energy there.

In Kung-fu practice that is a place where a person can be knocked from or die. It's also known to cause disorders, and it's one of these points that can knock people senseless.

The Columella is not the Philtrum. The Columella is an active circuit area, and active. This is why if you focus there properly, you'll probably feel alertness, and not lethargy.

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I confused the philtrum with the columnella.
Since the post that I focus on the philtrum has been written.
I'm worried this could have had a negative impact on my memory?


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