I posted about this anather forum here.
Now I post here again.

Who is freemasons ? - JoS undersatanding.
They are jews? or cntrolled by jews, occultist group what they (jews) occupied?

We believe in as much FreeMasons, Rosicrucians, and a few others to be originally either some form of non-Church organization hellbent on destroying the Church and de-cucking people or some sort of quasi-Spiritual organization that banded together to fight Judeo-Bolshevism.

We believe inasmuch things like the Illuminate existed prior to the Church and were good or better and promoted stuff either direct Paganism or indirect attacks such as promoting certain people to slow or stop Church's power. Such as the Church spending 200-300 years stating Pagans are worst than shit. Only to dupe around and state Gnostics and these people who take xtian concepts and turn it into this alternative almost Pagan explanation are worse than Pagans.

I'm sorry but HOW the FUCK can Gnostics be WORST than Pagans if you spent nearly 300 years bashing that dead horse.

Sheer fact is we believe they were either good organizations or if created by the enemy we believe they infiltrated these organizations and murdered the people and twisted it's occult for biblical non-sense. Believe in christ and bible 'n' sheit or we kill you 'n' sheit.

In essence we believe inasmuch the jews spent considerable time and effort sometimes occurring for years to hijack these organizations and prevent a return to Paganism. Of course these organizations are now a rotten scourge and were wiped out in Hitler's time as they were roached out shit holes cesspool of judeo-bolshevism i.e. bible fags.

The current versions of these xtian occultists is basically LARPing as christ cucks and LARPing as jews. They are practicing occult judiasm basically cause they are a bunch of ultracucks. Most of the time they are just launder money or pay each other off.

For example it's a huge shekelberging, shekelsteining operation; look at Shaquielle O'Neal he is like a fairly ranking degree freemason. Do you know how much gobs of money he's paid to become higher "rank". He spent tens if not hundreds of millions of dollars to "BUY" his way to "Heaven". Like literally they lie to this Shaq cause he is a christ cuck. This is what xtianity does and then funny enough the minorities go all gangstah mode cause if they do anything bad just repent a bit, move your hands in a cross kiss mudra, and say a few hail mary, our father and a bit of prayer and your good.

It's almost like the KC and Sunshine band memetics. Do a little dance, make a little love, get down tonight. Do a little prayer, do a little repenting, keep cucking around.

Keep Calm and Keep Cucking, basically.

Currently these organizations are hideous communist cesspools working for the Tzidikkim and it's Greyification process. Not ultracucks no Ultimate Cucks. Hell the boundless stupidity of people would probably turn them into Beyond Greys.

Beyond Greys? This isn't even the final form of Greys, there is a Beyond Greys.

The Ultimate Cuck being outcucked into a Ultra-Super-Giga Grey. A grey beyond grey.

These organizations control a disproportionate amount of power and wealth and while deeming themselves as business assistance organizations which they do. Their insidious nature of working with hostile extra-terrestrials which some have admitted to stating they've delved into furthering their soul into spirituality and communicating with inter-galactic federation dupes i.e. greys, reptilians, hostile E.T.s and other hostile entities.

These people basically sign a death sentence I'm sure the Gods and humans after them show no mercy to them. And rightfully so.

As for Theosophites we believe inasmuch that H.P. Blatvasky is a christcuck admits to cucking up Hindu and other SEA Nation manuscripts and doing solely for christ. We believe inasmuch her christcucking is actually a good thing as many people could see through the forest and trees and go, "Can I get jesus christs shit stains out of my life". We believe a number of people took Blatvasky's work and said, "Can I follow this stuff without sucking christ cock".

And so for many they broke out of xtianity with H.P. Blatvasky's blatant disregard and disrespect of Hinduism. IF anything Theosophy just promoted jesuit liberal/liberation theology to subvert India into a xtian construct.

We believe inasmuch Alice Bailey and the Lucis Trust property had more with creating Pagan-Xtians i.e. hybrids and other modern gnostics that can't get christ out of their ass and around the corner. We believe Blatvasky ruined a lot of Hinduism and other movements but that in her apparent cucking she de-cucked people who said, "FUCK christ but this Hindu stuff this is choice".

So the people who studied and were educated by Yogis, Rishis, or other religions like Shintoism they broke out of kosher supervision.

Baily not Blatvasky was the real headache. It's one reason why the current form of xtianty exists in reality.

In other words how do we go from Islamic cutthroat xtianity and liberal Protestant/Catholic properties into a soft, cuck, LGBTQ+ inclusive, and how do we open ourselves up to being reused as thralldom slaves for glorious christ.

As much as I hate xtianity in some cases Modern Buddhism and Western Buddhism is worst. They praise their attacker, bless them, and thank them even if they have a knife plunging into them stabbing them to death. At least with xtians they turn the other check and do so but as Fight Club, the movie, taught us they get pist off and attack you back.

At least with some christcucks their willing to fight for America or their nation. Even if every single bible thumper is anti-American and anti-National. Some of the Amendments done for America are anti-christian because the xtians would fuck around with people's lives forcing them to believe better me than that motherfucker who wanted to pagan shit and fuck shit up with magick.

In other words a racial, religious, and gentile traitor to his own gentiles.

Believe in krast or die.

Yeah fun shit.

Hadész said:

I posted about this anather forum here.
Now I post here again.

Who is freemasons ? - JoS undersatanding.
They are jews? or cntrolled by jews, occultist group what they (jews) occupied?

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Freemasonry has been mentioned in many sermons of the JoS. It was originally a group of secret societies which represented the main Satanic-Occult opposition to the Jews and the Catholic Church before they were infiltrated by the (((Illuminati))). Nowadays, Freemasons are nothing more than slaves of the Jews that practices their Kabbalah with them.

Rosicrucian orders were similar to Freemasonry but with different rituals. Nowadays they are corrupted too.

Theosophy is an enemy program that was made by (((Helena Blavatsky))) as an attempt to mix Pagan Occultism and Esoteric doctrines with the Jewish Kabbalah. It proved itself to be fraud when it failed to summon the Maitreya Buddha. It also caused the birth of the Jewish New Age.

Firstly I have two guestions.
What is xianity?
What is LARP?

The gnostics groups, generally has a definition, that, they was a cristian church, but they did not follow the Catholic faith, as the Catholic Church demanded, and therefore they were persecuted. There may be some truth in this. This is how stupid Christians teased each other during the Reformation. Many people felt that something was wrong, but they could not see beyond Christianity, so they did a reformation for them. Nevertheless, the Catholic Church killed the reformers.

Presumably, the Gnostics and the Templar Order were the forerunners of the Rosicrucian Association.

The question is whether the Gnostics were really Christians or Gal-Drida pagans who pretended to be Christians so as not to be seen and this was revealed somehow, for example, by infiltration. The same question can be asked about the Coptic Church in Egypt. There were members who were Christians until the end of their lives and believed that they were Christians, and there were others who were initiated into the true gnosis and who passed on the knowledge. Later, the infiltrated members with hostile intentions got hold of the knowledge. The initiates were killed and eventually only Christianity remained. They incorporated the stolen knowledge into their magic in the Kabbalah.

Another question is whether the Templar Order had anything to do with Gnosticism, or whether it was already under Jewish control when it was founded.
Then there are the alchemists. Among them, how many were greedy gold seekers and real occultists. Many Catholic monks also practiced alchemy in the Middle Ages. Here comes into the picture how many Germanic drotas and Celtic druids survived the violent conversions of the Crusaders. And a Hungarian shaman, or a Finnish shaman. In fact, these are not lost. This gnosis is not lost only to us. These still exist today somewhere in the hands of the Jews, secretly.

It is a fact that Nostradamus was a Jew and was associated with such an occult, semi-Rosicrucian society. Perhaps such good faith led to the theft of knowledge, which was naturally used against them.

I wonder how much corruption was in the occult field when Rosicrucianism and Freemasonry began to take shape in 1300 AC.

Shakespeare was a member of the Triangular Lodge, which is not yet considered one of the former, but they already use the symbolism, which is completely occult, so it is not something Jewish, but it is mixed up to this day.

John Dee, and Edward Kelly.
He seems to me to be a strongly Christian-influenced person with The Search for Angels. Peddig was one of the greatest occultists and black magicians. But, he still couldn't get rid of the search for God and the angels.

But even if we don't get answers to all these questions, it's still a shame that we have to look for the pure ancient religions, gnosis and the occult, free of distortions, because we were not separated from them by accident.

Even in Africa, in the far east, in India, there is a little bit of it in an untouched form. But, politically, India and other countries are also strongly pushed in a direction where they will lose their spirituality, like the influence of communism in China.

Xian=christian, just like Xmas is christmas
LARP=Live Action Role Playing

Hadész said:

Another question is whether the Templar Order had anything to do with Gnosticism, or whether it was already under Jewish control when it was founded.

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The Templars were just normal catholic xians. They weren't occultists like anything like that, but they influenced many occult orders or initiatory orders like the Freemasons.

Hadész said:

I wonder how much corruption was in the occult field when Rosicrucianism and Freemasonry began to take shape in 1300 AC.

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Rosicrucianism didn't start in 1300 CE but in early 17th century with the published Rosicrucian manifestoes written by Johann Valentin Andreae. The entire order was a hoax, it didn't exist before then, but again the manifestoes influenced many orders that begun in late 19th century and called themselves "Rosicrucian": the Martinists, Golden Dawn, AMORC, Rosicrucian Fellowship and many others. The AMORC that you mentioned is mostly influenced by New Thought and has very little in common with others which are xian and use xian terminology and symbology. It's more secularized than others and doesn't mention xian concepts.

In the pansophers.com website which was written by an expert on Rosicrucian orders (if you want to learn more about them I'd suggest you read it) it says that modern Rosicrucian orders are of 3 types:

1. Fraternal orders like Freemasonry that are brotherhoods and focus on social change but have nothing to do with occultism or mysticism
2. Mystic xian ones like the Martinists
3. Occult/Magickal ones like the Golden Dawn

Hadész said:

Firstly I have two guestions.
What is xianity?
What is LARP?

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Xtianity = Christianity. It's an old Roman way of disrespecting them. It's like saying "Fuck Christ and Christians".

The Romans cross-out the christ and put it as Xtian. It can be pronounced as Ecks-ti-ans or Zi-an-ity. Since the X can sometimes be double-sounded like Z in certain alphabets. Think like Xmas, since we Pagans celebrate the Solstice(21), Xmas (24-25), and Saturnalia(24-25). The three main dates of the Satanic Winter holidays of that area of holidays.

L.A.R.P. = Live-Action Role Playing; people who Role-Play but in real life. For example a person instead of playing a RPG board game or video game decides to act out in real-life. Or for example some lady dresses up like a Anime or Hentai character for role-playing purposes.

It's a play on words; it's a memetic way of stating the person is pretending to be something they are not or simply acting that way for shits and giggles. Or genuinely believe they are doing something alternative or cool. In most cases LARPing is used sarcastically albeit some people do use it straightforward, I'm doing this and I'm LARPing this character.

Ex: Gnostics would be xtian LARPers because some but not all had xtian undertones even the ones who were more in the Pagan view did posses some judeo-bolshevism(political/religious name for political/religious organizations of their variety).

So in essence Gnostics can be broken down into people who had some sort of Pagan appreciation and may have decided to continue Paganism or use Pagan concepts. Gnostics who are xtians but deny certain properties and view the church with suspicion. Or ignorant Gnostics who believe it's nothing more than church with a little more liberal properties. I'd rather have the Gnostics than the church at least they studied the Ancients and would easily return to Paganism if properly educated.

The Church spend centuries attacking Pagans, only for them to state Gnostics are worse than Pagans. Reminds me of jews who state judiasm is perfect and other religions are shit. Forgoing the knowledge that a good chunk of judiasm is nothing more than Paganism repackaged for kosher consumption. Particular properties in Ancient Greek and other Hellenized religious properties or religions of the past from the Middle East.

If anything xtianity and it's ilk(Islam, Orthodox xtianity, Copitc etc.etc.) are nothing more than Pagan programs repackaged from Pagan polytheism into Monotheistic ruler with Polytheistic principles subvert Nation-State with reverse Paganism and reverse Nationalism.

Think of it like Neo-Liberals, they are a form of NazBol(National Bolshevism); they are National Socialists that are kosher supervised Nazism to promote communism by the backdoor.

Neo-Libs are basically Commie-Nazi or Kosher Nazis who promote things to reverse the flow of Nationalism, Intra-Nationalism, and other forms of Autarky and self-Governance.

Basically in this World. There are two people Communists and their horde cucks from Clown World. And National Socialists and a smaller amount of people who are into Populism, Nationalism, and fixing the World.

Shadowmage said:

The Templars were just normal catholic xians. They weren't occultists like anything like that, but they influenced many occult orders or initiatory orders like the Freemasons.

Rosicrucianism didn't start in 1300 CE but in early 17th century with the published Rosicrucian manifestoes written by Johann Valentin Andreae. The entire order was a hoax, it didn't exist before then, but again the manifestoes influenced many orders that begun in late 19th century and called themselves "Rosicrucian": the Martinists, Golden Dawn, AMORC, Rosicrucian Fellowship and many others. The AMORC that you mentioned is mostly influenced by New Thought and has very little in common with others which are xian and use xian terminology and symbology. It's more secularized than others and doesn't mention xian concepts.

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Part of your answer is enemy propaganda:

1): The Templars were not xians in any way. It was stated in many sermons that they were Satanists and that the Baphomet is actually an androgynous Sophia, a.k.a. the Kundalini Snake.
2) The Rosicrucian order is authentic. In fact, it even had precursors such as Dante Alighieri.

Thank you so much for answer
Gear88 and Shadowmage.

That's pretty much how I see things.

That is why I left AMORC.
I also looked around in Theosophy and Anthroposophy, but they all seemed to be exactly the same, just dressed up in different clothes.

It's good that we see things the same way.

I read many articles here on the forum, in which I see only the truth. It's good to have a place like this.

This is my place.

Nimrod33 said:

Part of your answer is enemy propaganda:

1): The Templars were not xians in any way. It was stated in many sermons that they were Satanists and that the Baphomet is actually an androgynous Sophia, a.k.a. the Kundalini Snake.
2) The Rosicrucian order is authentic. In fact, it even had precursors such as Dante Alighieri.

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1)The sermons by (((Magestein))) are BS. There's zero evidence that the Templars were anything more than normal xians, this sophia thing all just speculation. It's said that the Templars discovered the head of John the Baptist which somehow got twisted into the "head of Baphomet" because they got much power and fortune and threatened the Catholic church so it had to spread lies about them that they were somehow Satanists. There's a modern "Knights Templar Order International" which are just normal xians who want to defend and preserve xianity:

https://www.knightstemplarorder.com/faq

2)Yes, *precursors*, which means that their philosophy influenced the myth of the Rosicrucian Order. It doesn't mean it existed then. Johann Valentin Andreae admitted that he made it up and his writings about the Rosicrucian Order were a parody and not a serious thing. The first mention of a "Rosicrucian Order", like I said, is in the manifestoes of Johann Valentin Andreae, you will not find it mentioned anywhere before that.

Andreae is also the creator of the mythos of the Rosicrucian Order and its fictitious founder Christian Rosencreutz. Current research discusses that he may have contributed to the mythos around the Rosicrucian Order, but that the utopia should not be seen as a program. Later, Andreae distanced himself from his work.

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https://www.kloster-bebenhausen.de/en/interesting-amusing/figures/johann-valentin-andreae