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Postby High Priestess Maxine Dietrich » Mon Nov 06, 2017 5:09 am

I'm new to this group here. I joined on for a reason.

If you have to wear glasses or contact lenses, read on...

I have an extensive background in alternative healing. Vitamins, minerals, supplements, herbs and so forth.

Last night while reading the daily news, I clicked on some ad concerning eyesight. I normally ignore any and all ads, links, etc.

Satan and Azazel showed me something.

To get to the point, some greedy Christian fucker went on and on and on ad nauseum about how he was going to reveal key ingredients for healing defective vision. The guy was excruciating to have to listen to, but I had a pad and took notes.

The video reached a climax with this unimaginably greedy individual pitching a sale; demanding close to $30.00 for his "smoothies."

Although excruciating to have to listen to, he did include a lot of useful information regarding the corrupt optometry industry, important points regarding eyesight and so forth.

Given my background, and what little he hinted at regarding the ingredients, it didn't take me long to do some online research and identify those ingredients. This filled in gaps concerning what I already knRutinor those of you who are interested in listening to this selfish greedy fucker, I included the link at the end of my post here.

Anyways, my point for posting this is I took my own version of that smoothie. Within 30 minutes, my vision was noticeably much more focused.

I was absolutely enraged and appalled. How someone could actually hoard this sort of knowledge and use it for personal profits, knowledge that would help millions of people and stop corruption is abominable to say the very least.

I don't want this to keep going on and on here.

I am one person. Each of us is individual and has different eyesight. I am asking volunteers here for taking this drink every day for 1 month and reporting back here the effects.

If this is favorable, I will post it to all the JoS groups and the forum, which total in the tens of thousands of members, asking that this be blabbed all over the internet.

Please read through the ingredients. They are readily available in most cities here in the US, or online.

These should all be taken together, as each one works with the others:

You can add these to juice in a blender.

Magnesium 2,000 mg (see note below)

Liquid Chlorophyll 2 - 4 tablespoons (see note below)

Nutritional Yeast Flakes 2 - 4 tablespoons

Lutein 24 mg
Zeaxanthin 24 mg

30 mg of Zinc (Zinc that contains Copper)

DHA, EPA Fish oil caps 500 mg

Vitamin C 1 - 3,000 mg

Rutin 500 mg

Vitamin E 3,000 IUs (see note below)

NOTE*
Magnesium is one of the most important minerals in the body. It gets drastically depleted on a daily basis. In order to get the full effects, it must be consumed in large doses. Unless you have a kidney disorder and/or don't drink enough water, these large doses won't be a problem.
One SIDE EFFECT is diarrhea.

Liquid Chlorophyll (Nature's Way brand, mint flavor is best) will turn your stool green. This is harmless. Again, and in addition to the magnesium, this can cause diarrhea. DON'T EVER take this by itself on an empty stomach as it can make you vomit. Best to include juice, add it to the smoothie.

Both the chlorophyll and magnesium together, in addition to being excellent for improving vision, also noticeably increases flexibility, and has other major health benefits.

Vitamin E is not water soluble. This means it accumulates in your system. Start out with taking 3,000 IUs and then after a few days, reduce this down to 2,000, then 1,000.

The diarrhea can be a problem. Just be very aware of this, as accidents can happen. I'm not trying to be crude here, but coming home with a hot date and falling asleep after blissful sex, then waking up the next morning next to lover in a pool of shit... Or if you're in sports...

This must be taken every day. Each of us is individual. Make sure your body is OK with the ingredients. My point of this post is to see how it affects everyone before posting it to the bigger audiences.

The Jewish controlled optometry industry has made trillions of dollars off the suffering of millions of people.

Please help. By the Grace of Satan, we can change this.

Greedy Christian. Has detailed info about eyes, though:

http://topupbeat.press/7161_41447/?volu ... 2704603485



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Postby High Priestess Maxine Dietrich » Mon Nov 06, 2017 5:24 am

Make sure the zinc caplets include copper. Very important.

Also, for real fast results, if you can hold a handstand, NOT a headstand, (this should be done against a wall for support), for 2 minutes or more, this can correct any vision problems real fast, especially with the nutrients.

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Postby High Priestess Maxine Dietrich » Mon Nov 06, 2017 5:26 am

Something was trying to stop me from posting in the Yahoo group. The enemy.

YES, it is supposed to cure nearsightedness, farsightedness, astigmatism, all eye problems.

Magnesium Oxide. Twin Lab Brand sells Twin Lab Magnesium 400 mg High Potency

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00412 ... ref=plSrch

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Postby HPS Shannon » Mon Nov 06, 2017 3:52 pm

Thank you very much, High priestess Maxine.

My multivitamin plus the other supplements I take contain many of these ingredients. They are a good safe guard as well to keep disease at bay. A lot of food is processed and stripped away of its minerals and natural components.

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Postby TruthSeeker » Mon Nov 06, 2017 9:27 pm

Hey Maxine, other brands will just be ok, right?

Also, about the diarreha, it's not like i will poop in the middle of my class or will I? ( Or when doing physical education )
lol

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Postby TruthSeeker » Mon Nov 06, 2017 9:57 pm

Oh and also, what do we do with our glasses/contact lenses. We'll just try staying 1 month without them?
Because if we keep using this smoothie/formula, our vision will gradually improve. So if we keep wearing the lenses, it would just worsen our vision...

Hmm, what do you think about this? :roll:

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Postby High Priestess Maxine Dietrich » Tue Nov 07, 2017 6:05 am

Any brands are fine. Twinlab Magnesium works well.
Given the severity of vision problems, this is gradual. Let us know how these nutrients are working for you.

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Postby TruthSeeker » Tue Nov 07, 2017 2:13 pm

Hello.

I asked a nurse in a farmacy and she says that these are very high doses ( for magnesium and vitamine E for example )

Do you think I'll be ok?

Also about the fish oil, u mean to consume 500 mg DHA and 500mg Epa, or 500 mg that contains both?

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Postby Stormblood » Tue Nov 07, 2017 3:22 pm

If I wanted to join you in this test, should I discontinue momentarily the multivitamin I'm currently taking or just upgrade with the values of the components I'm missing?

What I usually take is this: https://www.biovea.com/eu/product_detai ... -Compresse

Of the ingredients for this experiment, my multi contains:

• Mg 10 mg
• Zn 10 mg
• Vitamin C 250 mg (I don't know how many IU is this supposed to be)
• Vitamin E 150 IU
• Lutein 250 mcg
• Rutin 25 mg

The irrelevant value can be seen through the link provided.

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Postby Stormblood » Tue Nov 07, 2017 3:26 pm

I forgot to say the vitamin C is present as ascorbic acid, the vitamin E as d-alpha tocopherol, magnesium is magnesium chelate, and zinc is zinc chelate. That can't be seen from the website.

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Postby Aquarius » Tue Nov 07, 2017 6:57 pm

TruthSeeker wrote:Hello.

I asked a nurse in a farmacy and she says that these are very high doses ( for magnesium and vitamine E for example )

Do you think I'll be ok?

Also about the fish oil, u mean to consume 500 mg DHA and 500mg Epa, or 500 mg that contains both?
I don't want to sound unpolite but these nurses, doctors and whatever are very very retarded, like they never did any research on their own other than the jew owned universities and colleges.. I had an argument with a pharmacist who didn't want to sell me distilled water because thought that taking it with hydrogen peroxide was dangerous..... That's why I don't suggest speaking about what you want to take with these people, be cold with them and just buy and don't start conversations.
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Postby Roswitha » Tue Nov 07, 2017 7:52 pm

It makes sense that deficiencies are not fixed by just slightly increasing the daily intake.
After all you may still be deficient for a long time.
Perhaps the Daily Recommended Amount or something is meant for people whom are already healthy and have a healthy balance of vitamins and minerals that they'd want to keep.

And that some (or most I honestly do not know) people get hungry after a meditation session, and has been said before, this burns calories and such as well.

So it'd make only sense for an SS to need more nutrients even if it is just for that.

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Postby High Priestess Maxine Dietrich » Wed Nov 08, 2017 7:02 am

To answer some questions...

First off, keep wearing your glasses/contacts if you really need them, for driving, etc. If they become too strong, then get a new prescription.

Yes, these are high doses of magnesium. Lesser doses will not work for drastically improving eyesight, nor with facilitating flexibility. If you are not comfortable with this, then don't take it. It is your choice, use your own judgment.

Now, IMO, multiple vitamins are crap. Look at your multiple vitamin listing. Does it contain both Vitamin E and Iron? If so, did you know that taking both Vitamin E and Iron together cancel each other out?

In contrast, certain vitamins/minerals complement each other and work well together. You have to know what you're doing.

Also, Vitamin D can be very toxic. I learned this in my teens when I was taking a multiple vitamin that contained 1,000 IUs of Vitamin D. Even 400 IUs can be toxic, though it is 100% of the RDA. Food, sunlight, etc, can add to that 400 IU.

Vitamin A, Vitamin D and other fat soluble vitamins are stored in the body. These, unlike water soluble vitamins are NOT excreted in the urine.

In addition, most if not all multivitamins contain synthetic B vitamins. They are seriously inferior to Nutritional Yeast Flakes, that contain natural B vitamins. By natural, I mean like what we get from the food we eat. The only difference is NYFs contain a concentrated amount.

Again, what I posted here was sharing information. If you are not comfortable with the amounts or anything else, then don't take it.

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Postby Aquarius » Wed Nov 08, 2017 4:23 pm

TruthSeeker wrote:Hey Maxine, other brands will just be ok, right?

Also, about the diarreha, it's not like i will poop in the middle of my class or will I? ( Or when doing physical education )
lol
Be sure there is no magnesium sterearate added to the magnesium you buy:)
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Postby Rocky90-Oceano » Wed Nov 08, 2017 7:48 pm

You can try to strengthen the stomach by adding a few tablespoons of brown millet to this blend so explosive. With brown millet I can take large doses of Maca without having problems with my stomach...

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Postby Aquarius » Wed Nov 08, 2017 9:16 pm

I am having trouble finding good brands for the ingredients mostly for the lutein, I have found this https://www.amazon.it/Swanson-Health-Pr ... dpSrc=srch
do you think it's good? if not could you share the brand you are using? Most of the brands have they shitty magnesium stearate or other ingredients like glycerin which doesent sound too good to me.. Can you suggest the brand for zeaxanthin too?
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Postby AscendingSun » Sat Nov 11, 2017 7:16 am

I go to the eye doctor annually, my prescription went from -3.25 to -2.5 over the course of 2 years. This is about the time I started taking ZMA supplement daily for sleep and post workout recovery, ZMA containing zinc, magnesium, and B6. Also I began drinking this Magnesium powder (Calm) around this time frame infrequently. I asked the optometrist what that was about and she said something like your eyes can relax and focus can change.

I'll up to Magnesium to 2,000 mg for now and get the rest when I can and post results next time I get a check up.

Maybe eye "yoga" would help too, like look left/right, up/down, and eye rolls. ?

High Priestess Maxine Dietrich wrote:To answer some questions...

First off, keep wearing your glasses/contacts if you really need them, for driving, etc. If they become too strong, then get a new prescription.

Yes, these are high doses of magnesium. Lesser doses will not work for drastically improving eyesight, nor with facilitating flexibility. If you are not comfortable with this, then don't take it. It is your choice, use your own judgment.

Now, IMO, multiple vitamins are crap. Look at your multiple vitamin listing. Does it contain both Vitamin E and Iron? If so, did you know that taking both Vitamin E and Iron together cancel each other out?

In contrast, certain vitamins/minerals complement each other and work well together. You have to know what you're doing.

Also, Vitamin D can be very toxic. I learned this in my teens when I was taking a multiple vitamin that contained 1,000 IUs of Vitamin D. Even 400 IUs can be toxic, though it is 100% of the RDA. Food, sunlight, etc, can add to that 400 IU.

Vitamin A, Vitamin D and other fat soluble vitamins are stored in the body. These, unlike water soluble vitamins are NOT excreted in the urine.

In addition, most if not all multivitamins contain synthetic B vitamins. They are seriously inferior to Nutritional Yeast Flakes, that contain natural B vitamins. By natural, I mean like what we get from the food we eat. The only difference is NYFs contain a concentrated amount.

Again, what I posted here was sharing information. If you are not comfortable with the amounts or anything else, then don't take it.

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Postby TruthSeeker » Sat Nov 11, 2017 1:24 pm

Please share your experience on how Magnesium is effecting your bowel movement and describe the dosage and the type of it, by drinking a good amount of water.

About the eye ''yoga'' I think its not necessary since it actually stresses your eyes more in my opinion. So just do what HP Maxine says. HandStand against a wall for support.

AscendingSun wrote:I go to the eye doctor annually, my prescription went from -3.25 to -2.5 over the course of 2 years. This is about the time I started taking ZMA supplement daily for sleep and post workout recovery, ZMA containing zinc, magnesium, and B6. Also I began drinking this Magnesium powder (Calm) around this time frame infrequently. I asked the optometrist what that was about and she said something like your eyes can relax and focus can change.

I'll up to Magnesium to 2,000 mg for now and get the rest when I can and post results next time I get a check up.

Maybe eye "yoga" would help too, like look left/right, up/down, and eye rolls. ?

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Postby HPS Shannon » Sun Nov 12, 2017 12:51 am

Vitamin D is toxic when not supplemented with Vitamin A and some Vitamin K.
Vitamin A regulates Vitamin D. Vitamin A alone is also toxic in high doses when not supplemented with D.

That's why in nature, where there are high Vitamin A or D foods, the other vitamin is usually present in a balanced ratio. For example fish oils like cod liver oil, which is a good oil supplement. The best in my opinion if you are looking for high beneficial omegas and Vit. A and D.

Taking vitamins and some minerals just by itself (like in taking Vitamin A alone) can be dangerous because they need their co factors as well. Food is the best form of getting your nutrients but now based on farm practices, processing, health needs etc, supplementation is very useful and almost needed nowadays. For example, people who are anemic need iron supplementation because just eating food will not supply enough if you're trying to increase the iron content in your blood. It will take weeks to months to fix that.

The Daily recommendation or DV is just a minimal requirement to prevent nutritional deficiencies and not what you should be taking, the optimal. Virtually everyone benefits from a good quality multi. Many are deficient in nutrients and do not even know.

Also, as for multi-vitamins, they are only useless if you get them from companies and brands who do not know the synergistic effect of them and have them in amounts in which the body cannot fully absorb. Like HP Maxine has said, you have to know what you are doing. Magnesium and calcium in high amounts can compete, so does magnesium and calcium with iron. Also, there are food based multis out there. I get my multi vitamin from Dr. Ron's because they are balanced in that manner.

I get my calcium from food and dairy but I take magnesium individually and my iron as well.

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Postby TruthSeeker » Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:39 pm

Okay so I searched all over the internet about luenin/zeaxanthin so I could get 24/24 ratio with, but it was impossible. So what do you suggest me doing? It's impossible to get a kind of supplement that contains 1/1 ratio, or even 8/1 ratio... Idk what to do. Basically you need to eat like 200 mg of Luenin with 20 mg zeaxanthine. but that would be so so so expensive if you consume it for 30 days straight..

What should I do? Will this smoothie still be effective if I don't consume the required amount of 24 mg zeaxanthin? Will it be a problem if I get higher doses of Luenin?

Please enlighten me!
Thank you

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Postby Roswitha » Wed Nov 15, 2017 11:26 am


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Postby Rocky90-Oceano » Fri Nov 17, 2017 1:44 pm

With this mixture and meditation I feel like a bomb. Also I have felt too after taking the mixture the pressure in the eyes.

Grazie High Priestess Maxine Dietrich...!!! Hail Padre SATANA...!!!

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Postby TruthSeeker » Fri Nov 17, 2017 7:25 pm

Rocky90-Oceano wrote:With this mixture and meditation I feel like a bomb. Also I have felt too after taking the mixture the pressure in the eyes.

Grazie High Priestess Maxine Dietrich...!!! Hail Padre SATANA...!!!


So you mean that you tried this smoothie of Maxine already, in the right dosses?

Gonna order all these ingredients soon from iHerb.com.

Also, the liquid chlorophyll contains 5 mg copper per serving. Add that to 1-2 mg of Copper from the Zinc that contains it.
Total value: 6 or 7 mg of Copper per day.

Now, we know that zinc:copper ratio should be like 15:1 . So basically 30 mg zinc and 2 gram copper is max.

But will I still be okay if I consume 30 mg zinc with 6-7 mg of copper? Should I get zinc without copper at least?

Thanks!

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Postby Rocky90-Oceano » Sat Nov 18, 2017 8:28 pm

https://de.m.pipingrock.com/cart
In otto giorni ho ricevuto tutto in europa.

Con Banane e miglio marrone ho fermato la diarrea.

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Postby TruthSeeker » Sat Nov 18, 2017 11:45 pm

Rocky90-Oceano wrote:With this mixture and meditation I feel like a bomb. Also I have felt too after taking the mixture the pressure in the eyes.

Grazie High Priestess Maxine Dietrich...!!! Hail Padre SATANA...!!!


Did you actually take this? If so, share your experience!

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Postby Aquarius » Sun Nov 19, 2017 1:13 pm

Rocky90-Oceano wrote:https://de.m.pipingrock.com/cart
In otto giorni ho ricevuto tutto in europa.

Con Banane e miglio marrone ho fermato la diarrea.
eh capissi il tedesco hahaha
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Postby Roswitha » Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:04 pm

There were a lot of negative reviews about pipingrock. One of them being that whatever they sold wasn't the real thing but a pseudo thing.
Along with some other negative customer reviews.

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Postby Rocky90-Oceano » Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:09 pm

I feel that this mixture with this dosage has an effect on the spiritual side as well. As if they were the ingredients for the Snake ... But I'm still struggling with diarrhea.

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Postby SoulSnipes » Sun Nov 19, 2017 8:27 pm

I'm not a supplements kind of person but here's a meditation for the eyes, there's multiple levels in which the eye may be affected and cause swelling, and high blood pressure in the eyes, much like these [https://goo.gl/images/8Bosm9] (fourth Astral eye in an active state) the abilities have to be learned though.

http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... nergy.html
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... owers.html
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... d_Eye.html the mudra should be used for specific eye meditations, the ones you're doing going to do and so on
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... oints.html

I would say to do the full Chakra mediation for the eyes until you learn everything possible but there's a good and bad side to it so yeah...


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http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... on_II.html
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Postby Rocky90-Oceano » Tue Nov 21, 2017 8:09 am

I do not know if what I'm about to write is important or has to do with the care,
But I immediately noticed that this care have an effect on the spiritual side.
This night I woke up because I had a feeling of vomiting. A vortex pulling high, joining my sixth chakra, causing me strong headrests, because the sixth chakra started to vibrate quickly.
For the first time after so long I did not have control of the situation. With all my strength I stopped that energy that wanted to get up because I did not have the energy to handle the situation.
This is often repeated overnight.

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Postby Rocky90-Oceano » Tue Nov 21, 2017 9:36 am

HP Maxime, es geht mir nicht gut. Ich muss noch alle meinen Planeten machen. Und heute nacht muss ich noch mein Stein drehen lassen. Ich habe das Gefühl ich werde unmächtig...

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Postby Rocky90-Oceano » Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:10 am

Pero' non ho piu' la diarrea

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Postby TruthSeeker » Tue Nov 21, 2017 11:49 am

Rocky90-Oceano wrote:I feel that this mixture with this dosage has an effect on the spiritual side as well. As if they were the ingredients for the Snake ... But I'm still struggling with diarrhea.


Have you noticed any vision changes so far? + You took all the 10 types of nutritions in exact doses?
Please share your experience! :roll:

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Postby Aquarius » Thu Nov 23, 2017 10:04 pm

Day 3 of having magnesium 2000mg a day:
I am scared of farting.
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Postby WinterHearth666 » Tue Dec 05, 2017 1:51 am

I'm gonna start too after Yule and see what effects it has on me ;)

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Postby TruthSeeker » Tue Dec 12, 2017 12:42 pm

Hello

I actually tried this smoothue expect for the organic NYF because couldn't find it (tho I increased the intake of Vitamin B foods).

Bought them from best companies too. Also I made sure to drink every last drop of it. Even adding extra water so i could drink the leftovers too.

The problem here is the results. It's been 3-4 days that I've been consuming them after a meal, but so far no changes on my eyesight. Still the same... :( , though you had noticeable results within 30 mins :/

The first time I took the supplements I actually felt a bit high but still no effect on eyesight.

Any tips?

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Postby TruthSeeker » Sun Dec 24, 2017 8:29 pm

Still waiting for an answer so we can improve this formula.. :roll: :geek:

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Postby T.A.O.L. » Tue Dec 26, 2017 11:24 pm

I should mention this.

Last night I had a dream in which I was hearing or something, information about eyesight problems.

And basicly it told me in my dream that when your eyes continuously go bad or worsen gradually over time and you need stronger glasses, that it doesn't 'stop' at some point even though it appears like that, but still worsens in a different way that might not have a direct effect on the glasses one is wearing.

Which also then means that if one is starting with this, you won't always see immediate results. If you have a health issue for a long time it takes longer to cure. And most likely it takes longer to show results.

Now I don't think diarrhea is healthy to have for a longer period of time in any way, so this is most likely going to be a problem.
That means, in an adjustment, maybe something that is non toxic to the body in any way, yet has a slightly stopping side effect to it could be added.
Thats what I was thinking.


By the way, I have not started this treatment as of yet, I will go and try this later for a month straight. I won't have the 500mg fish oil, but the 1000 mg variation in a softgel or something like that. I do not think this one matters much on dose.

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Postby TruthSeeker » Wed Dec 27, 2017 5:54 pm

T.A.O.L. wrote:I should mention this.

Last night I had a dream in which I was hearing or something, information about eyesight problems.

And basicly it told me in my dream that when your eyes continuously go bad or worsen gradually over time and you need stronger glasses, that it doesn't 'stop' at some point even though it appears like that, but still worsens in a different way that might not have a direct effect on the glasses one is wearing.

Which also then means that if one is starting with this, you won't always see immediate results. If you have a health issue for a long time it takes longer to cure. And most likely it takes longer to show results.

Now I don't think diarrhea is healthy to have for a longer period of time in any way, so this is most likely going to be a problem.
That means, in an adjustment, maybe something that is non toxic to the body in any way, yet has a slightly stopping side effect to it could be added.
Thats what I was thinking.


By the way, I have not started this treatment as of yet, I will go and try this later for a month straight. I won't have the 500mg fish oil, but the 1000 mg variation in a softgel or something like that. I do not think this one matters much on dose.


She meant 500mg EPA and DHA ( total value 500mg of both ) , which like only 2000mg of fish oil contains. So it won't be a problem for you.

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Postby Stormblood » Fri Dec 29, 2017 1:28 am

This cure is very expensive by my country's standards, meaning cost of living and average wages. I won't be among the pioneers to test it, but will only do it after it's proved to be effective when I can save enough money to afford it. To make an example, the cost of 30 days of it equals to my family's (me and my grandma) food bills for three weeks, which is more than a visit with a specialist, unlike in the US where the costs of healthcare are abnormally crazy (just like education there).

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Postby T.A.O.L. » Sat Dec 30, 2017 12:43 am

Alright thanks Truthseeker, although, now Im confused a little though, but I guess the EPA and DHA together are the 500, not seperately, as it seems to have to be more in balance.
I found a 1000 mg capsule with 350 mg EPA and 250 mg DHA from Mattisson. You've probably never heard of it, its a brand that sells biological stuff and their prices seem rather reasonable.
You can't read it, but here is the link of what I meant:
https://www.mattisson.nl/product/absolu ... adha-3525/

I tried to look it up elsewhere and it send me to something from Holland&Barret.


@Stormblood Yes it is way more expensive than I initially thought it'd be. I thought maybe 100 will be enough. Turns out it isn't. I go for the "healthiest" and cheapest solution I could find. And that means I will have to measure the magnesium in grams while I have to add it to there.

As for the living conditions here. We have a compulsory health insurance for years, started since around 199 something or 2000. Currently I have to pay for myself with additional things over 120 a month.
My health insurance doesn't even cover the cost of new glasses for me in the slightliest bit. Itd cover it for someone who just got them, but I've had them pretty much since first grade.
I get 100 from my health insurance once every 2 years to get new glasses. Last time I got new ones which was about 3 years ago now, it cost me nearly 700. about 500 was for the glasses itself. The thing that holds those pieces degrades and breaks down over time as well. And since its something you have to wear for a long time.. IT HAS TO FIT. Im not even wearing designer stuff that cost like 500 euro just to look fancy and like you belong to the rich like what the f.
And then you have companies like specsavers or I have no idea what the other one was where I had my sunglasses from, whom are just bulk buyers, whom have crap holders for the part of the glasses you look through.

Look this might be more detailed than what is perhaps needed, but some people can't understand that that crap is expensive.
I can see the wear on my current glasses already, and Im going to have to replace them either somewhere in 2018 or the year thereafter anyway.

Then trying something and spending close to 200 perhaps, seems rather reasonable compared to a whole new set of glasses.
If need be I'll wear my old ones. I still have those laying around.

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Re: Test, Need Help...

Postby T.A.O.L. » Sat Dec 30, 2017 12:58 am

Oh by the way, if anyone knows a brand for good rutine that is affordable in europe I'd like to hear about it, I had to ship a bottle in from the brand NOW through iHerb, but it contains stearic acid. Im not sure if that can be of any harm in the smoothie itself, but it doesn't have magnesium stearate at least or anything else that can be really harmful.

This is the only thing I've really had a problem with though. It just absolutely not available here, or only in a combination and then its like contains per ... such and such of ... and 50mg rutin. Im not kidding. I'd have to take like nearly the entire bottle for that in one smoothie.
Seems to be a combination of bioflavonoids though, that one. Haven't seen it in a while so I might not remember correctly.

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Re: Test, Need Help...

Postby Aquarius » Sat Dec 30, 2017 10:12 am

T.A.O.L. wrote:Oh by the way, if anyone knows a brand for good rutine that is affordable in europe I'd like to hear about it, I had to ship a bottle in from the brand NOW through iHerb, but it contains stearic acid. Im not sure if that can be of any harm in the smoothie itself, but it doesn't have magnesium stearate at least or anything else that can be really harmful.

This is the only thing I've really had a problem with though. It just absolutely not available here, or only in a combination and then its like contains per ... such and such of ... and 50mg rutin. Im not kidding. I'd have to take like nearly the entire bottle for that in one smoothie.
Seems to be a combination of bioflavonoids though, that one. Haven't seen it in a while so I might not remember correctly.
don’t take it, stearic acid is just like mag sterearate
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Re: Test, Need Help...

Postby T.A.O.L. » Sat Dec 30, 2017 12:42 pm

Alright, if I cant find it shall I just replace it with the combi thing instead then?
Quantity would still be less but its either leave it out or take less then. Or take the crappy thing.

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Re: Test, Need Help...

Postby Aquarius » Sat Dec 30, 2017 5:33 pm

T.A.O.L. wrote:Alright, if I cant find it shall I just replace it with the combi thing instead then?
Quantity would still be less but its either leave it out or take less then. Or take the crappy thing.
If you're having that much trouble to find the ingredients I'd just leave it tbh, I did like that.
I don't know what is that combi thing you mentioned haha
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Re: Test, Need Help...

Postby T.A.O.L. » Tue Jan 02, 2018 1:16 pm

@Aquarius

There was one place I didn't look because I can't order from them.. Amazon.

I found these 2:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Super-Rutin-50 ... ords=rutin
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Greenfield-Rut ... in+capsule

I went to look for greenfield. Apparently they have a german website with an adress in NL, but the ship everything from Germany.
No wonder I couldn't find it, but I also find that rather confusing.
Anyway, here is their website (with that rutin product):
https://www.greenfood-shop.eu/Beauty/Ru ... aram=rutin

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Re: Test, Need Help...

Postby T.A.O.L. » Tue Jan 02, 2018 1:23 pm

Apparently they changed the formula for the super rutin I posted from amazon. https://www.healthleadsuk.com/super-rut ... sules.html

"*From September 2017 we have revised the Super Rutin formulation to: Rutin 200mg, Vitamin C 150mg, Citrus Bioflavanoids 100mg, Hesperidin 50mg. Other ingredients: None. 100% Additive Free. "

Thats what it changed to. I think it can still be used if one takes the vitamin C off the total.

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Re: Test, Need Help...

Postby T.A.O.L. » Wed Jan 03, 2018 4:28 pm

There is 2.000mg magnesium in the formula.
I decided to use magnesium citrate powder for this because its simply the one thats pricewise and without too much crap the best available that I can find.
(I think in some places you can also get magnesiumoxide as a powder, which is also cheaper than magnesium citrate powder)

However, I am somewhat worried as it might make a smoothie way too sour.

And I also came across a random post that said something along the lines of
"whilst magnesium oxide has a lower rate (about 25%) of being taken in by the body, the amount of magnesium in 1 gram is much higher, compared to the amount of magnesium in the more bioavailable forms which have a rate of about 90% absorption. Magnesiumoxide would have about 60% magnesium in one gram whilst the "organic" forms would have about 15% in the same amount."

Which means by calculation. If 1 gram has 600mg magnesium from magnesium oxide, but only 25% percent is absorbed, that means 150mg magnesium from magnesium oxide is absorbed.
Compared to, 15% from 1g = 150g magnesium in bio form, at a rate of 90% absorption, gives 135 mg magnesium from bioavailable magnesium absorbed.

Meaning the latter probably is not even the best to use either..



Also another note on magnesiumcitrate.. When products are made with chemistry in a factory, in example they attempt to make omega 6 and 3 and such in butter they make something with transfats..
Magnesiumcitrate can be made in a factory where they let magnesiumhydroxide react with citric acid.
A biological process makes a different structure and connects molecules differently than when its forced in a factory.. usually.
So the question is weather or not this way of making magnesium citrate is trustworthy.


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