Question about our Gods manifesting the universe

Mar 10, 2024#1

1- There is no being in the universe who is in charge of justice. But gods protect us from bad situations and negative events.

I want to give an example.
In a bad period of my life, because of my obsessions, I started harming myself. It became a dangerous situation for me.
Fortunately, Lord Sitri helped me a lot in this. I am not going to talk about it now, I am just sharing it as an example.

Lord Sitri showed me his love and wisdom. I will never forget that moment for the rest of my life.

2- Yes. Especially today the gods are very busy.

3- Great results cannot be achieved without raising energy. But a strong soul can influence the universe with its thoughts alone.
The answer must depend on the strength of the soul.

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1- There is no being in the universe who is in charge of justice. But gods protect us from bad situations and negative events.

I want to give an example.
In a bad period of my life, because of my obsessions, I started harming myself. It became a dangerous situation for me.
Fortunately, Lord Sitri helped me a lot in this. I am not going to talk about it now, I am just sharing it as an example.

Lord Sitri showed me his love and wisdom. I will never forget that moment for the rest of my life.

2- Yes. Especially today the gods are very busy.

3- Great results cannot be achieved without raising energy. But a strong soul can influence the universe with its thoughts alone.
The answer must depend on the strength of the soul.

Mar 10, 2024#2

ay lambasisaid:post: 494557
Hello Dear Zevism Community, I'm going to ask you a few questions
How does the universe work and how does the concept of divine justice work?
For example, do universal laws really exist?

1From what it seems, taking into account my interpretation of HP.Cobra's Sermons
The Gods really do wield extreme power over the universe, something that cannot be easily understood.
Almost like omnipotence.
The Gods are forces, part of the universe and eternal. Kosmic justice works alone and a God can represent it.
Just as the Shakti is power itself, or the Akasha is the Universal Creator and Destroyer, so is the law of justice.

2

ay lambasisaid:post: 494557
Hello Dear Zevism Community, I'm going to ask you a few questions
How does the universe work and how does the concept of divine justice work?
For example, do universal laws really exist?

1It seems that, given my interpretation of HP.Cobra's Sermons

The Gods really do wield extreme power over the universe, something that cannot be easily understood.

Almost like omnipotence.

The Gods are forces, part of the universe and eternal. Cosmic justice works on its own and a God can represent it.

Just as the Shakti is power itself, or the Akasha is the Universal Creator and Destroyer, so is the law of justice.

2There are universal laws.

One of them is duality, you are alive and therefore that becomes a law.

And another law is created from the moment you die, that is, the law of your death.

This is dual ty

3God is the essence of what he is and, at the same time, he is an individual.

He's alive on various levels that I can't remember right now, but that's literally it.

So much so that the names we give to the Gods are simply sounds of certain existing situations and thoughts.

I can say that a God on the Total (Universal) level as a law does interfere in your life, but the same God on the Medium (very individual) level has nothing to do with it.

6The Flow of the universe is the Whole inside a container, and that container has no individuality. It's just a container that holds the various unique things and disentangles them from each other.

Trying to take yourself into the universal flow as an individual Being of Atma is impossible.

Your consciousness is literally a part of the universe of Kosmos that deals with itself and in order to continue being that, you can't let yourself die.

... εἰ δὲ νοεῖς, ἔστιν, ὦ βασιλεῦ, ϰαὶ σωμάτων ἀσώματα. — Ποῖα; ἔφη ὁ βασιλεύς. — Τὰ ἐν τοῖς ἐσόπτροις φαινόμενα σώματα οὐ δοϰεῖ σοι ἀσώματα εἶναι; — Οὕτως ἔχει, ὦ Τάτ· ϑείως νοεῖς, ὁ βασιλεὺς εἶπεν. — Ἔστι δὲ ϰαὶ ἀσώματα ἄλλα, οἷον αἱ ἰδέαι οὐ δοϰοῦσιν εἶναί σοι, ἀσώματοι οὖσαι, ἐν σώματι φαινόμεναι, οὐ μόνον τῶν ἐμψύχων ἀλλὰ ϰαὶ τῶν ἀψύχων; — Εὖ λέγεις, ὦ Τάτ. — Οὕτως ἀνταναϰλάσεις εἰσὶ τῶν ἀσωμάτων πρὸς τὰ σώματα, ϰαὶ τῶν σωμάτων πρὸς τὰ ἀσώματα, τουτέστι τοῦ αἰσϑητοῦ πρὸς τὸν νοητὸν ϰόσμον ϰαὶ τοῦ νοητοῦ πρὸς τὸν αἰσϑητόν· διὸ προσϰύνει τὰ ἀγάλματα, ὦ βασιλεῦ, ὡς ϰαὶ αὐτὰ ἰδέας ἔχοντα ἀπὸ τοῦ νοητοῦ ϰόσμου. ὁ οὖν βασιλεὺς ἐξαναστὰς ἔφη, Ὥρα ἐστίν, ὦ προφήτα, περὶ τὴν τῶν ξένων ἐπιμέλειαν γενέσϑαι· τῇ δὲ ἐπιούσῃ περὶ τῶν ἑξης ϑεολογήσομεν.

ay lambasisaid:post: 494557
Hello Dear Zevism Community, I'm going to ask you a few questions
How does the universe work and how does the concept of divine justice work?
For example, do universal laws really exist?

1From what it seems, taking into account my interpretation of HP.Cobra's Sermons
The Gods really do wield extreme power over the universe, something that cannot be easily understood.
Almost like omnipotence.
The Gods are forces, part of the universe and eternal. Kosmic justice works alone and a God can represent it.
Just as the Shakti is power itself, or the Akasha is the Universal Creator and Destroyer, so is the law of justice.

2

ay lambasisaid:post: 494557
Hello Dear Zevism Community, I'm going to ask you a few questions
How does the universe work and how does the concept of divine justice work?
For example, do universal laws really exist?

1It seems that, given my interpretation of HP.Cobra's Sermons

The Gods really do wield extreme power over the universe, something that cannot be easily understood.

Almost like omnipotence.

The Gods are forces, part of the universe and eternal. Cosmic justice works on its own and a God can represent it.

Just as the Shakti is power itself, or the Akasha is the Universal Creator and Destroyer, so is the law of justice.

2There are universal laws.

One of them is duality, you are alive and therefore that becomes a law.

And another law is created from the moment you die, that is, the law of your death.

This is dual ty

3God is the essence of what he is and, at the same time, he is an individual.

He's alive on various levels that I can't remember right now, but that's literally it.

So much so that the names we give to the Gods are simply sounds of certain existing situations and thoughts.

I can say that a God on the Total (Universal) level as a law does interfere in your life, but the same God on the Medium (very individual) level has nothing to do with it.

6The Flow of the universe is the Whole inside a container, and that container has no individuality. It's just a container that holds the various unique things and disentangles them from each other.

Trying to take yourself into the universal flow as an individual Being of Atma is impossible.

Your consciousness is literally a part of the universe of Kosmos that deals with itself and in order to continue being that, you can't let yourself die.

Mar 10, 2024#3

Aleksiossaid:post: 494575
1- There is no being in the universe who is in charge of justice. But gods protect us from bad situations and negative events.
I want to give an example.
In a bad period of my life, because of my obsessions, I started harming myself. It became a dangerous situation for me.
Fortunately, Lord Sitri helped me a lot in this. I am not going to talk about it now, I am just sharing it as an example.
Lord Sitri showed me his love and wisdom. I will never forget that moment for the rest of my life.

Ohhh goodd Thank you

Aleksiossaid:post: 494575
1- There is no being in the universe who is in charge of justice. But gods protect us from bad situations and negative events.
I want to give an example.
In a bad period of my life, because of my obsessions, I started harming myself. It became a dangerous situation for me.
Fortunately, Lord Sitri helped me a lot in this. I am not going to talk about it now, I am just sharing it as an example.
Lord Sitri showed me his love and wisdom. I will never forget that moment for the rest of my life.

Ohhh goodd Thank you

Mar 11, 2024#4

Hello.

ay lambasisaid:post: 494557
How does the universe work and how does the concept of divine justice work?
For example, do universal laws really exist?

The Universe is dominated by natural laws but it is so immense, I believe that there are endless areas in the Universe that are completely different to what we humans understand to be around us (and we don't even understand a lot), where the "laws" may come across to us as impossible or inexplicable. I wouldn't say that the Universe 'works" in a certain way but just that it "exists" and that there are limitations to what is realistically possible. But the current understanding is extremely limited. For example if the Gods are a Species that is advanced enough to travel between solar systems, constellations or even galaxies, humanity has barely figured out how to get to the moon (and even around this event there are a lot of controversies). Is very hard to tell from the perspective of a "human" how the Universe works, because we know extremely little about it. Not to mention the non-physical aspects of the Universe, how energy affects reality and events, most scientists don't even believe in this.

I think "karma" is what would best describe the idea of "divine justice" but not in the sense of a conscious intelligent being (like the Gods) instilling justice, but in the sense that a sort of justice occurs naturally. I think it does but it affects people differently and at various levels, and this is mostly bound by how planetary energies affect their existence, which again is different for every person. Also I wouldn't necessarily say that nature is "inherently just", but nature simply exists in all forms, from one extreme to the other and everything in between. Many people who committed serious offenses evaded "justice" whilst physically living, but this might manifest like a boomerang and affect them in their future lives, this is yet another very complex subject that deals with understanding the "laws" of how one's actions can manifest a "contra-action", when does this happen and when it doesn't, what contribution do the Gods themselves have in this etc.

ay lambasisaid:post: 494557
Is there a universe where our gods are fully engaged?
Do our gods get in the way if we want something very much but it ends badly for us? Do they interfere when we don't want them to?

As far as I can tell yes especially (but maybe not limited) to those people who are aware of and dedicated to the Gods, yes the Gods will try to give such people signals about what is wrong to do etc, as long as people are able to "read" and understand these signals. Nonetheless humans are mostly only limited by their own understanding and judgment. The Gods have never imposed or forced any human to do certain things, but we simply bear the consequences of our decisions and actions on all possible levels.

ay lambasisaid:post: 494557
What effect does dreaming, writing or affirmation before going to sleep have? Can my friends who have knowledge about the law of attraction and frequency write?

The human subconscious mind is open to programming a lot more than the conscious mind, and this is where all the curses and spells for example are aimed at. But again programming manifests differently in different people. People with certain exceptional talents might develop genial ideas whilst dreaming as it happened in the past for example, or the Gods can "plant" such ideas in someone's mind and dreams as another example. Affirmations before sleeping as well can help depending on what you are looking for.

Also I think the "law of attraction" as most people imagine it is just nonsense. Is not enough to simply "think positively", you have to put actual work and a lot more energy into what you what to achieve in order to manifest.

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Hello.

ay lambasisaid:post: 494557
How does the universe work and how does the concept of divine justice work?
For example, do universal laws really exist?

The Universe is dominated by natural laws but it is so immense, I believe that there are endless areas in the Universe that are completely different to what we humans understand to be around us (and we don't even understand a lot), where the "laws" may come across to us as impossible or inexplicable. I wouldn't say that the Universe 'works" in a certain way but just that it "exists" and that there are limitations to what is realistically possible. But the current understanding is extremely limited. For example if the Gods are a Species that is advanced enough to travel between solar systems, constellations or even galaxies, humanity has barely figured out how to get to the moon (and even around this event there are a lot of controversies). Is very hard to tell from the perspective of a "human" how the Universe works, because we know extremely little about it. Not to mention the non-physical aspects of the Universe, how energy affects reality and events, most scientists don't even believe in this.

I think "karma" is what would best describe the idea of "divine justice" but not in the sense of a conscious intelligent being (like the Gods) instilling justice, but in the sense that a sort of justice occurs naturally. I think it does but it affects people differently and at various levels, and this is mostly bound by how planetary energies affect their existence, which again is different for every person. Also I wouldn't necessarily say that nature is "inherently just", but nature simply exists in all forms, from one extreme to the other and everything in between. Many people who committed serious offenses evaded "justice" whilst physically living, but this might manifest like a boomerang and affect them in their future lives, this is yet another very complex subject that deals with understanding the "laws" of how one's actions can manifest a "contra-action", when does this happen and when it doesn't, what contribution do the Gods themselves have in this etc.

ay lambasisaid:post: 494557
Is there a universe where our gods are fully engaged?
Do our gods get in the way if we want something very much but it ends badly for us? Do they interfere when we don't want them to?

As far as I can tell yes especially (but maybe not limited) to those people who are aware of and dedicated to the Gods, yes the Gods will try to give such people signals about what is wrong to do etc, as long as people are able to "read" and understand these signals. Nonetheless humans are mostly only limited by their own understanding and judgment. The Gods have never imposed or forced any human to do certain things, but we simply bear the consequences of our decisions and actions on all possible levels.

ay lambasisaid:post: 494557
What effect does dreaming, writing or affirmation before going to sleep have? Can my friends who have knowledge about the law of attraction and frequency write?

The human subconscious mind is open to programming a lot more than the conscious mind, and this is where all the curses and spells for example are aimed at. But again programming manifests differently in different people. People with certain exceptional talents might develop genial ideas whilst dreaming as it happened in the past for example, or the Gods can "plant" such ideas in someone's mind and dreams as another example. Affirmations before sleeping as well can help depending on what you are looking for.

Also I think the "law of attraction" as most people imagine it is just nonsense. Is not enough to simply "think positively", you have to put actual work and a lot more energy into what you what to achieve in order to manifest.

Mar 11, 2024#5

I recommend you read the book "the kybalion" it talks about the 7 natural laws in detail. This is information from ancient Egypt.
also its already states somewhere is ToZ that satan rules justice in the universe. I don't know how many beings in the universe have a sense of justice but anyone who is humanoid sure does.

Mar 11, 2024#6

The Alchemist7 [SG]said:post: 494615
Hello.
The Universe is dominated by natural laws but it is so immense, I believe that there are endless areas in the Universe that are completely different to what we humans understand to be around us (and we don't even understand a lot), where the "laws" may come across to us as impossible or inexplicable. I wouldn't say that the Universe 'works" in a certain way but just that it "exists" and that there are limitations to what is realistically possible. But the current understanding is extremely limited. For example if the Gods are a Species that is advanced enough to travel between solar systems, constellations or even galaxies, humanity has barely figured out how to get to the moon (and even around this event there are a lot of controversies). Is very hard to tell from the perspective of a "human" how the Universe works, because we know extremely little about it. Not to mention the non-physical aspects of the Universe, how energy affects reality and events, most scientists don't even believe in this.
I think "karma" is what would best describe the idea of "divine justice" but not in the sense of a conscious intelligent being (like the Gods) instilling justice, but in the sense that a sort of justice occurs naturally. I think it does but it affects people differently and at various levels, and this is mostly bound by how planetary energies affect their existence, which again is different for every person. Also I wouldn't necessarily say that nature is "inherently just", but nature simply exists in all forms, from one extreme to the other and everything in between. Many people who committed serious offenses evaded "justice" whilst physically living, but this might manifest like a boomerang and affect them in their future lives, this is yet another very complex subject that deals with understanding the "laws" of how one's actions can manifest a "contra-action", when does this happen and when it doesn't, what contribution do the Gods themselves have in this etc.

Better , thank You
HAIL ZEUS!

The Alchemist7 [SG]said:post: 494615
Hello.
The Universe is dominated by natural laws but it is so immense, I believe that there are endless areas in the Universe that are completely different to what we humans understand to be around us (and we don't even understand a lot), where the "laws" may come across to us as impossible or inexplicable. I wouldn't say that the Universe 'works" in a certain way but just that it "exists" and that there are limitations to what is realistically possible. But the current understanding is extremely limited. For example if the Gods are a Species that is advanced enough to travel between solar systems, constellations or even galaxies, humanity has barely figured out how to get to the moon (and even around this event there are a lot of controversies). Is very hard to tell from the perspective of a "human" how the Universe works, because we know extremely little about it. Not to mention the non-physical aspects of the Universe, how energy affects reality and events, most scientists don't even believe in this.
I think "karma" is what would best describe the idea of "divine justice" but not in the sense of a conscious intelligent being (like the Gods) instilling justice, but in the sense that a sort of justice occurs naturally. I think it does but it affects people differently and at various levels, and this is mostly bound by how planetary energies affect their existence, which again is different for every person. Also I wouldn't necessarily say that nature is "inherently just", but nature simply exists in all forms, from one extreme to the other and everything in between. Many people who committed serious offenses evaded "justice" whilst physically living, but this might manifest like a boomerang and affect them in their future lives, this is yet another very complex subject that deals with understanding the "laws" of how one's actions can manifest a "contra-action", when does this happen and when it doesn't, what contribution do the Gods themselves have in this etc.

Better , thank You
HAIL ZEUS!

Mar 11, 2024#7

LoyalSSsaid:post: 494620
I recommend you read the book "the kybalion" it talks about the 7 natural laws in detail. This is information from ancient Egypt.
also its already states somewhere is ToZ that satan rules justice in the universe. I don't know how many beings in the universe have a sense of justice but anyone who is humanoid sure does.

What do you mean by

Mar 11, 2024#8

Ĥl·lĥæsaid:post: 494581
1From what it seems, taking into account my interpretation of HP.Cobra's Sermons
The Gods really do wield extreme power over the universe, something that cannot be easily understood.
Almost like omnipotence.
The Gods are forces, part of the universe and eternal. Kosmic justice works alone and a God can represent it.
Just as the Shakti is power itself, or the Akasha is the Universal Creator and Destroyer, so is the law of justice.
2
1It seems that, given my interpretation of HP.Cobra's Sermons

Oh yes, thank you very much

Honor and Power be forever attributed to Satan !

Ĥl·lĥæsaid:post: 494581
1From what it seems, taking into account my interpretation of HP.Cobra's Sermons
The Gods really do wield extreme power over the universe, something that cannot be easily understood.
Almost like omnipotence.
The Gods are forces, part of the universe and eternal. Kosmic justice works alone and a God can represent it.
Just as the Shakti is power itself, or the Akasha is the Universal Creator and Destroyer, so is the law of justice.
2
1It seems that, given my interpretation of HP.Cobra's Sermons

Oh yes, thank you very much

Honor and Power be forever attributed to Satan !

Mar 11, 2024#9

The Alchemist7 [SG]said:post: 494615
Hello.
The Universe is dominated by natural laws but it is so immense, I believe that there are endless areas in the Universe that are completely different to what we humans understand to be around us (and we don't even understand a lot), where the "laws" may come across to us as impossible or inexplicable. I wouldn't say that the Universe 'works" in a certain way but just that it "exists" and that there are limitations to what is realistically possible. But the current understanding is extremely limited. For example if the Gods are a Species that is advanced enough to travel between solar systems, constellations or even galaxies, humanity has barely figured out how to get to the moon (and even around this event there are a lot of controversies). Is very hard to tell from the perspective of a "human" how the Universe works, because we know extremely little about it. Not to mention the non-physical aspects of the Universe, how energy affects reality and events, most scientists don't even believe in this.
I think "karma" is what would best describe the idea of "divine justice" but not in the sense of a conscious intelligent being (like the Gods) instilling justice, but in the sense that a sort of justice occurs naturally. I think it does but it affects people differently and at various levels, and this is mostly bound by how planetary energies affect their existence, which again is different for every person. Also I wouldn't necessarily say that nature is "inherently just", but nature simply exists in all forms, from one extreme to the other and everything in between. Many people who committed serious offenses evaded "justice" whilst physically living, but this might manifest like a boomerang and affect them in their future lives, this is yet another very complex subject that deals with understanding the "laws" of how one's actions can manifest a "contra-action", when does this happen and when it doesn't, what contribution do the Gods themselves have in this etc.

Can I ask you why many people, especially those who have more spiritual positions in their birth chart, have curses or prayers, or why someone does evil and finds the same.

For example, someone from other religions who is not one of us did evil to someone and that person cursed him or left it to divine justice and that person was harmed.

The Alchemist7 [SG]said:post: 494615
Hello.
The Universe is dominated by natural laws but it is so immense, I believe that there are endless areas in the Universe that are completely different to what we humans understand to be around us (and we don't even understand a lot), where the "laws" may come across to us as impossible or inexplicable. I wouldn't say that the Universe 'works" in a certain way but just that it "exists" and that there are limitations to what is realistically possible. But the current understanding is extremely limited. For example if the Gods are a Species that is advanced enough to travel between solar systems, constellations or even galaxies, humanity has barely figured out how to get to the moon (and even around this event there are a lot of controversies). Is very hard to tell from the perspective of a "human" how the Universe works, because we know extremely little about it. Not to mention the non-physical aspects of the Universe, how energy affects reality and events, most scientists don't even believe in this.
I think "karma" is what would best describe the idea of "divine justice" but not in the sense of a conscious intelligent being (like the Gods) instilling justice, but in the sense that a sort of justice occurs naturally. I think it does but it affects people differently and at various levels, and this is mostly bound by how planetary energies affect their existence, which again is different for every person. Also I wouldn't necessarily say that nature is "inherently just", but nature simply exists in all forms, from one extreme to the other and everything in between. Many people who committed serious offenses evaded "justice" whilst physically living, but this might manifest like a boomerang and affect them in their future lives, this is yet another very complex subject that deals with understanding the "laws" of how one's actions can manifest a "contra-action", when does this happen and when it doesn't, what contribution do the Gods themselves have in this etc.

Can I ask you why many people, especially those who have more spiritual positions in their birth chart, have curses or prayers, or why someone does evil and finds the same.

For example, someone from other religions who is not one of us did evil to someone and that person cursed him or left it to divine justice and that person was harmed.