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by High Priest Jake Carlson
Tue Jun 02, 2020 1:12 am
Forum: Important Articles from JoS Ministry
Topic: Anu, Enki, Enlil
Replies: 33
Views: 5223

Re: Anu, Enki, Enlil

It's disgusting how these lizards think alike. Jewble man created to serve jewgod. Jewmarx communism. Jewzakaria humans created to dig.. Zechariah Shit-chin compares the alleged Sumerian "originals" with the Jewish "creation" story, and while at one moment, Shit-chin proves that...
by High Priest Jake Carlson
Fri May 29, 2020 3:35 am
Forum: BlackSun666 Forum
Topic: Here is the link to The little white book.
Replies: 44
Views: 6039

Re: Here is the link to The little white book.

For anyone here who isn't aware of the book, Arthur Kemp, who authored "The March of the Titans: The History of the White Race" also wrote "The Children of Ra: Artistic, Historical, and Genetic Evidence for Ancient White Egypt" which is available on Amazon. For pro-White books o...
by High Priest Jake Carlson
Wed May 27, 2020 9:54 pm
Forum: BlackSun666 Forum
Topic: Here is the link to The little white book.
Replies: 44
Views: 6039

Re: Here is the link to The little white book.

For anyone here who isn't aware of the book, Arthur Kemp, who authored "The March of the Titans: The History of the White Race" also wrote "The Children of Ra: Artistic, Historical, and Genetic Evidence for Ancient White Egypt" which is available on Amazon. For pro-White books on...
by High Priest Jake Carlson
Sat Feb 29, 2020 11:36 pm
Forum: Important Articles from JoS Ministry
Topic: THIS IS ISLAM
Replies: 16
Views: 4585

Re: THIS IS ISLAM

I once read in a book called "Guide for the Noahide" by kike Michael Shelomo Bar Ron, and although the kike bashed Arab "antisemitism," he PRAISED Allah and placed Islam upon a Jewish pedestal. Apparently, Islam, regardless of its assimilation of "antisemitic" values, i...
by High Priest Jake Carlson
Sun Jan 12, 2020 2:02 am
Forum: Important Articles from JoS Ministry
Topic: Upholding The White Race - Abolishing White Guilt
Replies: 69
Views: 12678

Re: Upholding The White Race - Abolishing White Guilt

Don't forget what the Jews are laying out with the still-pending Noahide Laws and what this means for our existence. The Jews are pushing the Noahide Utopia as the crown of Judaism/Christianity and Islam. Islam is even worse than Christianity, but it is of the same Jewish origins. The White Gentiles...
by High Priest Jake Carlson
Sun Dec 22, 2019 1:18 pm
Forum: Important Articles from JoS Ministry
Topic: Pro-White Books Disappearing from Amazon's Shelves
Replies: 37
Views: 6252

Re: Pro-White Books Disappearing from Amazon's Shelves

Not to go against you HP but the last paragraph you wrote is kinda conflicting with what happened here a couple months ago. There was this jew zola who was here since like 2005 and she was exposed just this year, unless the Gods treated that thing as a learning lesson for us. You didn't "go ag...
by High Priest Jake Carlson
Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:33 pm
Forum: Important Articles from JoS Ministry
Topic: Pro-White Books Disappearing from Amazon's Shelves
Replies: 37
Views: 6252

Pro-White Books Disappearing from Amazon's Shelves

This is not any kind of a "White Supremacist" post, but, rather, it is simply aimed at the White Aryan human descendants of the Nordic Gods. Although not of the same bloodline, non-White Gentiles were invented by Satan through genetic engineering, so non-Whites are entitled to ensure the s...
by High Priest Jake Carlson
Tue Dec 17, 2019 11:57 pm
Forum: Joy Of Satan 666
Topic: Baby Jesus Crying on Saturday Night Live
Replies: 5
Views: 2131

Baby Jesus Crying on Saturday Night Live

Like the "blue pill" or the "red pill," the Jews are allowed to insult and blaspheme Jewsus Christ because all Jews have it in their collective racial memory that the Jews invented Christianity in all of its forms for Gentile consumption-only. Yes, there are a great number of Jew...
by High Priest Jake Carlson
Sun Dec 08, 2019 8:06 pm
Forum: Important Articles from JoS Ministry
Topic: Jesse Owens and the 1936 Olympics: The Truth
Replies: 19
Views: 3506

Jesse Owens and the 1936 Olympics: The Truth

I am posting the first half of a chapter from The Myth of German Villainy by Benton L. Bradberry, due to the fact that there are still many brainwashed Gentiles who believe the vicious Jewish lies that Adolf Hitler -- the Aryan Anti-Christ -- "refused to shake the African-American Olympic winne...
by High Priest Jake Carlson
Sun Dec 08, 2019 8:06 pm
Forum: Important Articles from JoS Ministry
Topic: Jesse Owens and the 1936 Olympics: The Truth
Replies: 1
Views: 513

Jesse Owens and the 1936 Olympics: The Truth

I am posting the first half of a chapter from The Myth of German Villainy by Benton L. Bradberry, due to the fact that there are still many brainwashed Gentiles who believe the vicious Jewish lies that Adolf Hitler -- the Aryan Anti-Christ -- "refused to shake the African-American Olympic winne...
by High Priest Jake Carlson
Mon Dec 02, 2019 9:52 am
Forum: Important Articles from JoS Ministry
Topic: Kikologist Sigmund Freud's Theft and Corruption of Nietzsche's Philosophy
Replies: 10
Views: 2833

Kikologist Sigmund Freud's Theft and Corruption of Nietzsche's Philosophy

Freud's Theft and Corruption of Nietzsche's Philosophy Below my introductory commentary portion of this post here, is a Jewish "scholar/authority" on Nietzsche whose book shamelessly pries into Nietzsche's sex life which Nietzsche intentionally kept as ambiguous and private as possible. It...
by High Priest Jake Carlson
Tue Nov 19, 2019 2:30 am
Forum: Important Articles from JoS Ministry
Topic: For Fans of Friedrich Nietzsche
Replies: 26
Views: 4871

Re: For Fans of Friedrich Nietzsche

HP Jake, are there translations of Nietzsche that you would recommend? I am not an expert on the different translations of Nietzsche's works, but unless it is just for entertainment value, as well as to closely and carefully scrutinize Jewish lying patterns and techniques of deceit, I would avoid J...
by High Priest Jake Carlson
Sun Nov 17, 2019 11:14 pm
Forum: Important Articles from JoS Ministry
Topic: Why Conservatism "Doesn't Conserve Anything"
Replies: 25
Views: 4745

Re: Why Conservatism "Doesn't Conserve Anything"

The situation with Conservatism is that there is an emerging movement now "Against" it from within, the main claim of which is the claim that Conservatism doesn't really Conserve any traditional American Value. And that is a correct assessment. It hasn't been for a very long time, and it ...
by High Priest Jake Carlson
Sun Nov 17, 2019 10:57 pm
Forum: Important Articles from JoS Ministry
Topic: For Fans of Friedrich Nietzsche
Replies: 26
Views: 4871

Re: For Fans of Friedrich Nietzsche

"......What you have inherited from your Ancestors you must earn before you can own, the most precious possession in this world though are its own people , for these people and this nation(Nazi Germany) we have to struggle and fight and never to languish and never to weaken and never to give u...
by High Priest Jake Carlson
Sun Nov 17, 2019 10:19 pm
Forum: Important Articles from JoS Ministry
Topic: For Fans of Friedrich Nietzsche
Replies: 26
Views: 4871

Re: For Fans of Friedrich Nietzsche

Great. HP Jake Carlson how can I email you? I reeeally need to take your advice personally, please. I don't read my personal e-mails very often, but I'm sure that I or someone else here can help you. Unfortunately, this is the first opportunity that I have had to sign into the forum here and write ...
by High Priest Jake Carlson
Sun Nov 17, 2019 10:13 pm
Forum: Important Articles from JoS Ministry
Topic: For Fans of Friedrich Nietzsche
Replies: 26
Views: 4871

Re: For Fans of Friedrich Nietzsche

"......What you have inherited from your Ancestors you must earn before you can own, the most precious possession in this world though are its own people , for these people and this nation(Nazi Germany) we have to struggle and fight and never to languish and never to weaken and never to give u...
by High Priest Jake Carlson
Sun Nov 17, 2019 8:11 pm
Forum: Important Articles from JoS Ministry
Topic: For Fans of Friedrich Nietzsche
Replies: 26
Views: 4871

For Fans of Friedrich Nietzsche

From Nietzsche, Prophet of Nazism by Abir Taha: "...Nietzsche was a virulent 'spiritual' and pagan [as opposed to Christian] anti-Semite, i.e., that he morally despised the Jews as the decadents of humanity and falsifiers of history, as the living incarnation of the slave morality. Nietzsche wa...
by High Priest Jake Carlson
Sun Nov 17, 2019 8:08 pm
Forum: Joy Of Satan 666
Topic: For Fans of Friedrich Nietzsche
Replies: 0
Views: 591

For Fans of Friedrich Nietzsche

From Nietzsche, Prophet of Nazism by Abir Taha: "...Nietzsche was a virulent 'spiritual' and pagan [as opposed to Christian] anti-Semite, i.e., that he morally despised the Jews as the decadents of humanity and falsifiers of history, as the living incarnation of the slave morality. Nietzsche wa...
by High Priest Jake Carlson
Wed Nov 13, 2019 5:55 pm
Forum: Important Articles from JoS Ministry
Topic: Women, Men, The Enemy, Having Children and European Birthrate
Replies: 29
Views: 4770

Re: Women, Men, The Enemy, Having Children and European Birthrate

I need to clean up the mess that I unintentionally made here. I don't get much time on the forum here. Apparently I have confused a lot of people due to a misunderstanding of what I could have sworn that I thought that Satan was trying to express. Where I fucked up is when Satan was expressing His s...
by High Priest Jake Carlson
Tue Nov 05, 2019 1:07 am
Forum: Joy Of Satan 666
Topic: National Socialism Is NOT Socialist
Replies: 12
Views: 2512

National Socialism Is NOT Socialist

The "Socialism" in National Socialism is NOT Socialism in any way except for its contempt for capitalism. Here are some quotes from Nietzsche, Prophet of Nazism by Abir Taha: "[p. 70] Against Socialism, 'the tyranny of the least and the dumbest', of the 'superficial and envious', a do...
by High Priest Jake Carlson
Mon Sep 30, 2019 2:04 am
Forum: Important Articles from JoS Ministry
Topic: New Age "Kundalini" Experiences
Replies: 35
Views: 5939

Re: New Age "Kundalini" Experiences

12 years ago -- I was working with a crazy New Age bitch (long personal story that I won't reveal too many details about) until she told me that she keeps in touch with angels. One time I was sitting at the table when she was here, and without my permission she put her hand on the base of my spine a...
by High Priest Jake Carlson
Mon Sep 30, 2019 1:55 am
Forum: Important Articles from JoS Ministry
Topic: 28/9/19
Replies: 53
Views: 10867

Re: 28/9/19

The Russian government is currently pushing the narrative that the Soviet invasion of Poland in WWII was in fact an attempt at liberating Poland and keeping it safe from Nazi Germany, and that WWII - the "Great Patriotic War" - didn't actually start until Germany invaded the USSR. Literal...
by High Priest Jake Carlson
Mon Sep 30, 2019 1:24 am
Forum: Important Articles from JoS Ministry
Topic: 28/9/19
Replies: 53
Views: 10867

Re: 28/9/19

Many people are very weak. The victims who are too lazy and cowardly to seek justice from and vengeance against the victimizer, use the tired old cop-out of "I'm not going to sink to their level. I'm not going to become what they are." Some gay Christians who I've spoken to when I was new ...
by High Priest Jake Carlson
Sat Sep 14, 2019 7:00 am
Forum: Important Articles from JoS Ministry
Topic: Revealing Reference to Christ in the Jewish Talmud
Replies: 11
Views: 3227

Revealing Reference to Christ in the Jewish Talmud

I apologize. I don't get much time on my partner's computer, but my PC only has Windows 7, which doesn't allow access to "controversial" websites, blogs, and etc. However, I will be getting Windows 10 software, which will enable me to access this forum and other websites that the Jewish pe...
by High Priest Jake Carlson
Thu Jun 06, 2019 11:56 pm
Forum: Important Articles from JoS Ministry
Topic: Shattering the Myth of Ancient Greek "Pederasty"
Replies: 16
Views: 4555

Shattering the Myth of Ancient Greek "Pederasty"

Note: We will have to clean up all of the hazardous practices that the Jews have introduced to gay, lesbian, bisexual, and heterosexual White Aryans before they destroy us all. Quote: "The more settled world of Classical Greece developed above all else the pedagogical mode, providing 'a uniquel...
by High Priest Jake Carlson
Thu Jun 06, 2019 11:56 pm
Forum: Important Articles from JoS Ministry
Topic: Shattering the Myth of Ancient Greek "Pederasty"
Replies: 0
Views: 614

Shattering the Myth of Ancient Greek "Pederasty"

Note: We will have to clean up all of the hazardous practices that the Jews have introduced to gay, lesbian, bisexual, and heterosexual White Aryans before they destroy us all. Quote: "The more settled world of Classical Greece developed above all else the pedagogical mode, providing 'a uniquel...
by High Priest Jake Carlson
Sat Apr 06, 2019 10:01 pm
Forum: Important Articles from JoS Ministry
Topic: The Wicker Man [1973 Classic]
Replies: 15
Views: 4140

The Wicker Man [1973 Classic]

With "Easter Sunday" coming up for Christians to celebrate the fictitious death and resurrection of the Christos asshole, I highly recommend watching the 1973 version of The Wicker Man, starring Christopher Lee, in order to liven up this otherwise useless, boring day. However, don't forget...
by High Priest Jake Carlson
Thu Mar 28, 2019 7:11 pm
Forum: Important Articles from JoS Ministry
Topic: Gay People
Replies: 54
Views: 12032

Re: Gay People

Dear "seedsofruin," The pseudo-statistic that homosexuals only make up 1-2% of the human population is part of the imagination of the born-again, God-fearing Christians, born-again, God-fearing Christian Odinists, and born-again, God-fearing Christian Satanists. Likewise, the secular, Left...
by High Priest Jake Carlson
Sun Mar 10, 2019 7:22 pm
Forum: Joy Of Satan 666
Topic: Back to the Gulag: The True Intentions of the Jewish Forces Behind the "LGBTQAI+ Rights" Movement
Replies: 12
Views: 2911

Back to the Gulag: The True Intentions of the Jewish Forces Behind the "LGBTQAI+ Rights" Movement

Back to the Gulag: The True Intentions of the Jewish Forces Behind the "LGBTQAI+ Rights" Movement by High Priest Jake Carlson Whenever I use the word "queer" in the sermon below, I am not using it as derogatory slang for normal gays/bis and lesbians, but, rather, for the ones who...
by High Priest Jake Carlson
Fri Jan 11, 2019 8:14 pm
Forum: Important Articles from JoS Ministry
Topic: "Christian(s)" Is a Racial Slur Against White People
Replies: 46
Views: 8809

"Christian(s)" Is a Racial Slur Against White People

http://gbltthulesociety666.angelfire.com/whitexians/ "Christian(s)" Is a Racial Slur and a Death Curse Against White People by High Priest Jake Carlson While it has become politically incorrect and forbidden to use racial slurs against the races that the Jews are protecting and programming...
by High Priest Jake Carlson
Fri Dec 07, 2018 9:25 pm
Forum: Important Articles from JoS Ministry
Topic: Christianity: It Is The Oral Torah
Replies: 12
Views: 2780

Re: Christianity: It Is The Oral Torah

Here is an old, but still relevant sermon that touches upon some of this: http://gbltthulesociety666.angelfire.com/jewishteachings/ The Jewishness of Jesus Christ's Communist Teachings Part One by High Priest Jake Carlson Since there never was a Jewish or a Pagan/Aryan Christ, the Jews still forged ...
by High Priest Jake Carlson
Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:15 am
Forum: Joy Of Satan 666
Topic: Checking In
Replies: 9
Views: 3309

Checking In

It's me, High Priest Jake Carlson, and I am just letting everyone know that I am still here and haven't gone anywhere, despite the despicable rumors that I have been "in hiding." I have had computer issues for a long time, and I am not very good with computers, as of yet. I have to use the...
by High Priest Jake Carlson
Sat Aug 11, 2018 4:06 am
Forum: Important Articles from JoS Ministry
Topic: Equal Hate For All Sexual Goyim
Replies: 51
Views: 10492

Re: Equal Hate For All Sexual Goyim

.... ... This was a really good reply HP. I wish it didn't pop on the forums just after I posted my reply where I bring you up. However some points need to be adressed still : 1) situation of trans 2) what does third sex mean anyway in a definite way - there has been a confusion on this lately. Ano...
by High Priest Jake Carlson
Sun Jul 15, 2018 10:07 pm
Forum: Important Articles from JoS Ministry
Topic: How Christianity Came To Be
Replies: 18
Views: 5197

Re: How Christianity Came To Be

We have to simplify and boil down this story to understand how it came to be. The jews in around 200 BC were living as part of many countries in particular and concetration however around "Israel" a region they were claiming from the native peoples. Here they carried their usual blood sac...
by High Priest Jake Carlson
Wed Jul 04, 2018 2:51 am
Forum: Joy Of Satan 666
Topic: Explanation for race mixing?
Replies: 85
Views: 14170

Re: Explanation for race mixing?

HP Jake Carlson, your excellent reply here is of perfect timing, as we are scheduled to focus on the Race Awakening Rituals this week :) Do you think you should post it into a sermon of its own so more people can see it and be inspired for the rituals? :) Thank you. I haven't had much time to spend...
by High Priest Jake Carlson
Tue Jul 03, 2018 2:03 am
Forum: Joy Of Satan 666
Topic: Explanation for race mixing?
Replies: 85
Views: 14170

Re: Explanation for race mixing?

Can one of you actually explain what is wrong with race mixing? I've heard you say that there's scientific proof that race mixing is bad but I've never seen any studies to show it. Until I see a study or am given a good explanation for why it's bad I will stick with the opinion that there is nothin...
by High Priest Jake Carlson
Tue Jun 12, 2018 2:28 pm
Forum: JoS Newsletter
Topic: Crowley
Replies: 6
Views: 5638

Re: Crowley

To add to this, Crowley was also a Bible-believing Christian, and as you noted, he only at times presented himself as "anti-Christian" just for shock value. He may not have been a traditional fundamentalist, but his belief in Christ and those filthy Jewish angels canceled out any legitimat...
by High Priest Jake Carlson
Mon Jun 11, 2018 8:49 pm
Forum: Joy Of Satan 666
Topic: A thought on LGBT
Replies: 61
Views: 11058

Re: A thought on LGBT

There will be no homosexuals, because it is a disease on soul and mind. Homo is jewish concept from the begining. It's against nature. So people who will refuse any kind of treatment will be erased just as the Jews. If homosexuality is "against Nature" and "a Jewish concept from the ...
by High Priest Jake Carlson
Tue Jun 05, 2018 8:37 am
Forum: Important Articles from JoS Ministry
Topic: Thor
Replies: 22
Views: 6783

Re: Thor

Proof that the Eddas were either Christianized, or written by Christians in the first place, are the derogatory references towards the third gender [homo/bisexuals], as none of our original pre-Christian, Aryan Pagan religions frowned upon homosexuality prior to being Christianized. Homosexuality us...
by High Priest Jake Carlson
Fri Apr 13, 2018 3:29 pm
Forum: Important Articles from JoS Ministry
Topic: The Coming Microchip Is A Brain Chip
Replies: 15
Views: 5639

Re: The Coming Microchip Is A Brain Chip

Jesus Christ, also known as "Lord Christos," is the Jewish Messiah. I wrote a little bit about the hand and head chips in my sermon on Christos-Lucifer, but you presented the issue in much greater depth in your sermon here. Here is my older sermon that mentions it, although only somewhat v...
by High Priest Jake Carlson
Sun Apr 08, 2018 8:07 pm
Forum: Important Articles from JoS Ministry
Topic: Unconscious Christianity In A Pagan Cloth
Replies: 31
Views: 6947

Re: Unconscious Christianity In A Pagan Cloth

A good example of an unconsciously Christian or Muslim person in Pagan/Satanic cloth is a person claiming Paganism and/or Satanism, but who bashes or belittles homosexuality in some way, as if homosexuality is inferior to heterosexuality, and that anyone who disagrees is a Cultural Marxist. I have b...
by High Priest Jake Carlson
Sat Apr 07, 2018 3:35 pm
Forum: Important Articles from JoS Ministry
Topic: Blessed Life And A Very Important Answer On Family
Replies: 52
Views: 11374

Re: Blessed Life And A Very Important Answer On Family

The bottom line is that regardless of what any Christian or Muslim says, although third sex adoption and "parenting" is wrong, homosexual and related relationships are just as normal, legitimate, and ordained by Satan and Nature's Laws as heterosexual relationships. The Jews created anti-h...
by High Priest Jake Carlson
Sat Apr 07, 2018 2:18 pm
Forum: Joy Of Satan 666
Topic: Christianity Is Theistic Communism Parts One and Two
Replies: 3
Views: 1979

Christianity Is Theistic Communism Parts One and Two

This new sermon series irrefutably proves that not all communism is atheistic or "Godless." Christianity and Islam, themselves, are 100% communist. I would have sent these sooner, but the server for Angelfire was down for a short while. Christianity Is Theistic Communism Part One: Christ P...
by High Priest Jake Carlson
Sat Apr 07, 2018 2:18 pm
Forum: Joy Of Satan 666
Topic: Christianity Is Theistic Communism Parts One and Two
Replies: 1
Views: 882

Christianity Is Theistic Communism Parts One and Two

This new sermon series irrefutably proves that not all communism is atheistic or "Godless." Christianity and Islam, themselves, are 100% communist. I would have sent these sooner, but the server for Angelfire was down for a short while. Christianity Is Theistic Communism Part One: Christ P...
by High Priest Jake Carlson
Sat Mar 31, 2018 9:59 am
Forum: Important Articles from JoS Ministry
Topic: Satan Was God Over Egypt
Replies: 8
Views: 3648

Re: Satan Was God Over Egypt

Marduk slaying Tiamat is the Sumerian equivalent of the Egyptian Amon Ra slaying Apep. Apep is a male Tiamat. This symbolic chaos dragon was robbed from by the Jewish kikes in order to invent their Leviathan Christos. Very interesting about the true meaning behind the symbolic tension between Horus ...
by High Priest Jake Carlson
Thu Mar 08, 2018 2:11 pm
Forum: Important Articles from JoS Ministry
Topic: The Latin Cross
Replies: 15
Views: 5819

Re: The Latin Cross

The psychotic Christians believe that the return of the Anti-Christ will mean that they will lose their livelihood if they confess their faith in Christ, and that they will not be able to buy or sell, save that they have the Mark of the Beast. What they fail to realize is that the Christian Churches...
by High Priest Jake Carlson
Thu Mar 08, 2018 1:58 pm
Forum: Important Articles from JoS Ministry
Topic: The Latin Cross
Replies: 15
Views: 5819

Re: The Latin Cross

The "t" cross of Christ is the mark of Christianity -- the Christ who the Jewish New Testament is devoted to, who the Bible says has come once for the Gentile Christians, but not yet for the Jewish people, except for the Messianic Jewish community who believe in "him." This "...
by High Priest Jake Carlson
Thu Feb 15, 2018 4:09 am
Forum: Important Articles from JoS Ministry
Topic: Enforced Race-Mixing Under the Noahide Laws
Replies: 12
Views: 4659

Enforced Race-Mixing Under the Noahide Laws

Like most of my writings, this was mostly intended for a White audience, but much of the content within this sermon also applies to all Gentiles. The Jews think they are so supreme. Computer spell-checkers allow the word "Gentiles" to be spelled with a lower-case "g," but never a...
by High Priest Jake Carlson
Tue Nov 21, 2017 5:38 am
Forum: Important Articles from JoS Ministry
Topic: The Other Manson Family
Replies: 5
Views: 3053

The Other Manson Family

The Other Manson Family In light of today's [11/20/2017] death of the "Gnostic" Christian cult leader, Charles Manson, that High Priestess Maxine Dietrich posted about earlier today, I am posting about an equally vile abomination that hasn't been given nearly as much publicity as the Manso...
by High Priest Jake Carlson
Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:47 pm
Forum: Important Articles from JoS Ministry
Topic: "Paganism": At Risk For Being The Second Chrisitanity?
Replies: 45
Views: 13924

Re: "Paganism": At Risk For Being The Second Chrisitanity?

I went to a YouTube video about Christianity in schools by Fox News and was almost shocked at the majority of violences were violently directed at Christians by people you could tell were very stupid and lazy. This is the Proletarian and the Proletarian mostly comes from the lower classes. Most Pag...