Question #4106: Advancing without Gods?

[AskSatanOperator]

Found Joy of Satan a few days ago, and after reading a bit through it I was convinced of most points, except the one about the Gods. I did the dedication ritual, since it is required to advance spiritually apparently, but I honestly don't trust any Gods or Demons or any other spiritual being for that matter. It's pretty much an issue of skepticism or distrust, more than disdain or hate. I don't want to place my faith in more Gods and be disappointed, just like in christianity. I may be proven wrong with time, which is okay, but I was wondering if it is possible to advance without the Gods. Can I advance spiritually, at least to a degree where my life is satisfactory in every regard, without any involvement from the Gods? Thank you for your time.

 

[Corax 4 Dracon]

The dedication ritual is not required in order to advance spiritually. It is done out of free will by those that wish to commit themselves to a path of self-development and evolution with the guidance of the Gods.

It looks like your problem stems from not having deprogrammed yourself properly from the binds of your religious—maybe Christian—past, since it is still controlling you with fear, hence your trust issues regarding "any Gods, Demons or any other spiritual being".

Further reading
Making a Commitment to Satan
Dedication and Devotion to Father Satan - by HPHC
Why It Can Be Difficult to Deprogram from Christian Indoctrination
Freeing The Soul
Exposing Christianity

Finally, as one advances spiritually, one realizes that contact with the Gods is inevitable, since we, as humans, are spiritually bound to them as their creation, and as one investigates and researches the physics of the soul, one finds the cosmic touch of the Gods everywhere. Everyone comes to a natural point in their spiritual evolution, in which they will want to commit themselves to the Gods` Greater Cause, in order to advance. You can not be disappointed by the Gods, regardless of what kind of "faith" you put in them. The Gods will not meditate and do the work for you, so expecting that from them is stupid. By dedicating to Them, They do not get the responsiblity of your salvation. That is your work and by dedicating yourself to the Gods you are asking them to guide you towards achievement, both for you, for humanity and for the Gods themselves, as they want us to succeed.

 

[kaelgr]

Trust is a necessary feeling for people. Most people reject the feeling of belonging somewhere but are still attached to something. This could be a substance, a human, or a god. All of them will have different effects.

Communicate with the Gods and decide for yourself. You do not need to be a satanist or have done the devotional ceremony to communicate with the Gods. Only some gods and goddesses treat those who do these things and keep their promises better.

Gods are a teacher and guide for us. The universe is like a pyramid and in order to rise, it is necessary to focus higher. You can also rise with the power you draw from within yourself. But to decide, I suggest you experience both and communicate with the gods

 

[Karnonnos]

It is natural to be skeptical at the start, especially after one is abused by xianity, but one has to start doing things to get rid of that skepticism.

For example, the Squares. The Squares are always way more powerful in specific signs [the domicile and exaltation] like the JoS says. You can literally feel it. The Chakra Openings are the same.

No one else says this, no one else even has the planet to Chakra correspondence right whatsoever. So who would this have even come from other than the Gods?

The more things possibly 'click' for you like this the more you will understand it is part of a coherent whole.

 

[AFODO]

No problem, you'll understand later, just read our material.
You can start off like this.

 

[Stormblood]

No problem. Just keep in mind advancing past a certain level is not possible on your own. For example, rising your kundalini or the full Magnum Opus. It would take you thousands of years of experimentation, if not tens of thousand, to understand what to do, what is proper and not, through trial and error, etc.

Also, whether you trust them or not, the Gods oversee all the energies that you use and see in daily life. Whether you like it or not, the Gods do help you regardless, as they are the Masters of the Universe.

 

[Akay]

You do want the Gods to be involved in your life, and that's wonderful.
There's a difference between you calling on the Gods and them simply helping you.
The hope is that you'll do as I did, be skeptical about the help, because most of the time that's not the case.
Go as far as you can to a point where you're completely sure when it's God or not.

An important warning, you have to do the rituals of the Gods even if you don't want to call them, this is very important because other people really need their liberation on a low plane like this.

Inevitably, when you are advanced enough, your consciousness will look directly at the Gods with admiration and a desire for interaction.
You can't raise a kundalini without the help of a Demon (angel)

 

[Dragonheart666]

Question? Are you sure you have to have all the right material, everything you will need such as candles? And incense and whatever color cloth May require? Just to summons a demon, or call up on a God for help with you on your path. I mean? If you're going to do this you might as well do it right..

 

[General Yeager]

There are creatures that are already familiar with you if you are from a non pagan background (Christian of Muslim) that will start attacking you spiritually when you try to advance. You will need the Protection of the Gods in that situation.

 

[Dragonheart666]

People often need guidance. Buy a friend? Somebody who's been into Satanism for a while and knows what they're doing. People have tried learning this stuff on their own and often get misled. And find themselves learning something they shouldn't and later regret it