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Pure Lust / Sex Rune Working

Ol argedco luciftias said:
SeekerOfTruth666 said:
I've been curious about something.
Can a love/lust spell be cast on another Satanist?

You should not be trying to interfere with a Satanist in any way like this.

Maybe not exactly a love or lust spell, but to strengthen the marriage or strengthen the love between two Satanists
 
SeekerOfTruth666 said:
Ol argedco luciftias said:
SeekerOfTruth666 said:
I've been curious about something.
Can a love/lust spell be cast on another Satanist?

You should not be trying to interfere with a Satanist in any way like this.

Of course that's what i know and believe too. But what if that person was your own wife?

Then of course. This is very different from what you originally said.
 
Ol argedco luciftias said:
SeekerOfTruth666 said:
Ol argedco luciftias said:
You should not be trying to interfere with a Satanist in any way like this.

Of course that's what i know and believe too. But what if that person was your own wife?

Then of course. This is very different from what you originally said.

Thanks. Also sorry that I wasn't clear at the beginning. This is what I actually meant. Does it have to be a working involving both people or can it be done alone, perhaps without the other person knowing abt it.
 
SeekerOfTruth666 said:
Thanks. Also sorry that I wasn't clear at the beginning. This is what I actually meant. Does it have to be a working involving both people or can it be done alone, perhaps without the other person knowing abt it.

It would work better if both of you are working for the same thing.
 
jrvan said:

Given that your problem was related to trauma, cleaning will go a long way. In addition, in light of the recent thread on mantras, I would suggest using Saulo as a means of empowerment, if you have already done large amounts of Vaum. As you mentioned, specific affirmations following these mantras is a good way to quickly resolve the issue (as opposed to general empowerment or cleaning).

Beyond the sacral chakra, you can direct energy towards anything, such as cleaning any sexual trauma, restoring sexual function, etc. This can be the basis of a Virgo moon working, or during the witch's esbat cleaning date, for example.

Given the influence of both the kidneys and sacral chakra on mood and water in the body, your symptoms don't surprise me at all. Nakedpluto mentioned a relationship with the sacral and bliss. Furthermore, as the kidneys are restored, they will help remove pathological heat from the body, which is one reason that can cause fat accumulation. Physically, you can use the kidney 3 acupoint.

You mentioned being earth and water predominant, but check your astrology and cross-reference it with the appropriate signs for each planet, as well as with the influence of its aspects. Having a Leo moon and Cancer Sun would not mean "equal" water/fire, for example, as those are suboptimal signs for each planet to best function. Similarly, Neptune's aspects to the Sun will weaken it.

Although there is a mudra for reducing Kapha (earth/water dosha) in the body, I would be careful about reducing water, given what you said about the kidneys and related symptoms. However, there is a mudra called the "Surya mudra" which reduces just the earth element in the body. This will increase fire in your body and tell your body to quit holding onto the weight, as you may be constitutionally programmed. Tabby should do the opposite, however.

I believe, through a combination of these things, there is no reason why you cannot be restored to normal. Good luck, Jrvan!
 
Blitzkreig [JG said:
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jrvan said:

Given that your problem was related to trauma, cleaning will go a long way. In addition, in light of the recent thread on mantras, I would suggest using Saulo as a means of empowerment, if you have already done large amounts of Vaum. As you mentioned, specific affirmations following these mantras is a good way to quickly resolve the issue (as opposed to general empowerment or cleaning).

Beyond the sacral chakra, you can direct energy towards anything, such as cleaning any sexual trauma, restoring sexual function, etc. This can be the basis of a Virgo moon working, or during the witch's esbat cleaning date, for example.

Given the influence of both the kidneys and sacral chakra on mood and water in the body, your symptoms don't surprise me at all. Nakedpluto mentioned a relationship with the sacral and bliss. Furthermore, as the kidneys are restored, they will help remove pathological heat from the body, which is one reason that can cause fat accumulation. Physically, you can use the kidney 3 acupoint.

You mentioned being earth and water predominant, but check your astrology and cross-reference it with the appropriate signs for each planet, as well as with the influence of its aspects. Having a Leo moon and Cancer Sun would not mean "equal" water/fire, for example, as those are suboptimal signs for each planet to best function. Similarly, Neptune's aspects to the Sun will weaken it.

Although there is a mudra for reducing Kapha (earth/water dosha) in the body, I would be careful about reducing water, given what you said about the kidneys and related symptoms. However, there is a mudra called the "Surya mudra" which reduces just the earth element in the body. This will increase fire in your body and tell your body to quit holding onto the weight, as you may be constitutionally programmed. Tabby should do the opposite, however.

I believe, through a combination of these things, there is no reason why you cannot be restored to normal. Good luck, Jrvan!

Lydia's Visuddhi cleaning helped a lot just after doing it once. I had been cleaning my chakras with Surya as a mantra before, but this cleaning method with Visuddhi is something else. I'm going to do it again soon to see if I replicate the same results. My sexuality became wild again with the most pleasurable feeling I had ever experienced in my life. It's since dipped back again so I really need to keep up with this to see what happens. I've just been so busy with trying to juggle everything each day.

I did a working with the Ing Rune on the scumbag who ripped from my sacral chakra. It was simplistic and I was just going by the JoS description of the Rune for an affirmation. "X is now completely deprived of all life force." He's an enemy mage so don't worry about him. I want his soul to disappear from existence, and I won't be fully satisfied until it does. I was going to continue the working for 40 days at least, but I had to stop short at around 25-ish days because I couldn't fit it in anymore and I was too tired from everything. Tabby tried to remote view him, and from what she tells me he's suffering pretty badly. So yay.

I was fat because of how I was neglected as a child and fed cheap garbage and fast food all the time. I didn't know any better. When I became an adult and stopped taking medication which made me feel like I was in a coma my whole life, I started exercising and walking every day while cutting down on sugar and drinking exclusively water. I lost nearly 150 pounds in the span of like 5 years, and then I kind of stagnated for a while maintaining between 190-210 for years. In the past 2-3 years I have really upped the ante with exercise, and I can run a few miles without stopping. I'm targeting different muscle groups, and yoga helps too. I suspect that if my chakras hadn't been messed with and stolen from then I would already be a lot lighter and fitter after all the work I have done. It was seriously an unnatural level of thirst... I don't know how to explain it. I didn't have kidney problems, and I never needed such an inhuman amount of water before in my life. I was very healthy. It only started after he ripped from my chakra that I felt so thirsty all the time.

I'll give the working to restore sexual function a try depending on how things go with the Visuddhi cleaning.

Oh, for my chart... hmm. I was going by the signs. My 1 fire sign is extremely powerful, and is actually the reason why this is so very tragic for me, much more so than it would be for most other people (still tragic for anyone, but exponentially more so for me). If you knew what it was then you would understand. It's devastating. Sex and pleasure is like... everything to me. Would you care if I sent you my chart? You're one of the few people I would trust with it.
 
SeekerOfTruth666 said:
Ol argedco luciftias said:
SeekerOfTruth666 said:
I've been curious about something.
Can a love/lust spell be cast on another Satanist?

You should not be trying to interfere with a Satanist in any way like this.

Of course that's what i know and believe too. But what if that person was your own wife?

If the people are perfectly compatible there shouldn't be a requirement to perform a love spell on them, and you are always running a big risk when trying to pull spells on dedicated Satanists.

If you put a love spell on a Satanist, and you emotionally devastate this person, and this person brings it up to their GD. Well. That is an awkward situation indeed. So long as you are positively affecting another Satanist's life with your power, I don't think there's an issue.


But relationships are volatile and things can go sour. And since you created this, by performing that love spell, you also created the damage brought unto this person as a direct result of the relationship brought on by this spell. Damaging another Satanist in any way through magick is severe treason. I suppose in the sense that no harm was intended, and thus any real harm is accidental, you won't be in as MUCH trouble as if you just flat out cursed another SS.

It's not like breaking a forum rule and having to contend with a HP or moderator. You will have to explain yourself before the gods. It's a huge risk you are taking.
 
jrvan said:
Lydia's Visuddhi cleaning helped a lot just after doing it once. I had been cleaning my chakras with Surya as a mantra before, but this cleaning method with Visuddhi is something else. I'm going to do it again soon to see if I replicate the same results. My sexuality became wild again with the most pleasurable feeling I had ever experienced in my life. It's since dipped back again so I really need to keep up with this to see what happens. I've just been so busy with trying to juggle everything each day.
Visuddhi is very good. It means "pure" in Sanskrit, and it's the active power of the throat chakra. Given its meaning, it can also be used for purification too.

I did a working with the Ing Rune on the scumbag who ripped from my sacral chakra. It was simplistic and I was just going by the JoS description of the Rune for an affirmation. "X is now completely deprived of all life force." He's an enemy mage so don't worry about him. I want his soul to disappear from existence, and I won't be fully satisfied until it does. I was going to continue the working for 40 days at least, but I had to stop short at around 25-ish days because I couldn't fit it in anymore and I was too tired from everything. Tabby tried to remote view him, and from what she tells me he's suffering pretty badly. So yay.
Ing in this case can also be used to collect back all the energy that has been stolen from you, and then return it to yourself.
 
Dahaarkan said:
SeekerOfTruth666 said:
Ol argedco luciftias said:
You should not be trying to interfere with a Satanist in any way like this.

Of course that's what i know and believe too. But what if that person was your own wife?

If the people are perfectly compatible there shouldn't be a requirement to perform a love spell on them, and you are always running a big risk when trying to pull spells on dedicated Satanists.

If you put a love spell on a Satanist, and you emotionally devastate this person, and this person brings it up to their GD. Well. That is an awkward situation indeed. So long as you are positively affecting another Satanist's life with your power, I don't think there's an issue.


But relationships are volatile and things can go sour. And since you created this, by performing that love spell, you also created the damage brought unto this person as a direct result of the relationship brought on by this spell. Damaging another Satanist in any way through magick is severe treason. I suppose in the sense that no harm was intended, and thus any real harm is accidental, you won't be in as MUCH trouble as if you just flat out cursed another SS.

It's not like breaking a forum rule and having to contend with a HP or moderator. You will have to explain yourself before the gods. It's a huge risk you are taking.

Thank you. Yes, I completely understand. I was not clear about what I meant when I first posted. I was actually curious to know if it was okay to cast a love spell on your partner who's a dedicated SS to strengthen the relationship. I understand more now.
 
SeekerOfTruth666 said:
I've been curious about something.
Can a love/lust spell be cast on another Satanist?
It can, but I can remember a member (but I forgot who exactly...) said if they (I think she) had that happen to her, and then she found out, she wouldn't be very pleased!

I don't mean to pile on top of you after you have replied multiple times already. I came to this late. Nevertheless...
SeekerOfTruth666 said:
Ol argedco luciftias said:
SeekerOfTruth666 said:
Of course that's what i know and believe too. But what if that person was your own wife?

Then of course. This is very different from what you originally said.

Thanks. Also sorry that I wasn't clear at the beginning. This is what I actually meant. Does it have to be a working involving both people or can it be done alone, perhaps without the other person knowing abt it.
If you are still, secretly, trying to do this to a Spiritual Satanist who is not your partner, then beware. Any God or Goddess could make you upset for doing that. As Spiritual Satanists, we have protection - but if one is stronger than you are, then either your Magick will not work, or if it does then they would soon realise and then (I would expect) get you back; regardless, you might be punished by a God or Goddess; if the SS is weaker than you are, then I would not doubt that either 1) you'd be punished if you were successful, 2) you would not be successful, or 3) you'd not be successful and you'd be punished on top.

Of course, you will say, "No! No! No! I'm being genuine - I truly meant my wife!". You've defended yourself already, but still - either way...
 
FancyMancy said:
SeekerOfTruth666 said:
I've been curious about something.
Can a love/lust spell be cast on another Satanist?
It can, but I can remember a member (but I forgot who exactly...) said if they (I think she) had that happen to her, and then she found out, she wouldn't be very pleased!

I don't mean to pile on top of you after you have replied multiple times already. I came to this late. Nevertheless...
SeekerOfTruth666 said:
Ol argedco luciftias said:
Then of course. This is very different from what you originally said.

Thanks. Also sorry that I wasn't clear at the beginning. This is what I actually meant. Does it have to be a working involving both people or can it be done alone, perhaps without the other person knowing abt it.
If you are still, secretly, trying to do this to a Spiritual Satanist who is not your partner, then beware. Any God or Goddess could make you upset for doing that. As Spiritual Satanists, we have protection - but if one is stronger than you are, then either your Magick will not work, or if it does then they would soon realise and then (I would expect) get you back; regardless, you might be punished by a God or Goddess; if the SS is weaker than you are, then I would not doubt that either 1) you'd be punished if you were successful, 2) you would not be successful, or 3) you'd not be successful and you'd be punished on top.

Of course, you will say, "No! No! No! I'm being genuine - I truly meant my wife!". You've defended yourself already, but still - either way...

Haha I always enjoy your posts FancyMancy.
Well, I actually am married to a Satanist. We both dedicated together. You can see my very first post on the forum if you'd like to verify.
I was never defending myself cos there's no reason to. I would never do any such thing to another Satanist. Whether it be a love spell or anything else. I am fully aware of the consequences of doing such things. Besides, Father Satan has very clearly told us to refrain from doing any such things.
To be completely honest, my wife and I were having a bit of rough time and I just wanted to strengthen our relationship. I'm not so familiar with love spells so i just asked. My original question was too simplified I guess, hence the misunderstandings.

This time I am defending myself btw :D
 
SeekerOfTruth666 said:
Haha I always enjoy your posts FancyMancy.
I wish more members were as honest (or dishonest) as you!

Well, I actually am married to a Satanist. We both dedicated together. You can see my very first post on the forum if you'd like to verify.
I was never defending myself cos there's no reason to. I would never do any such thing to another Satanist. Whether it be a love spell or anything else. I am fully aware of the consequences of doing such things. Besides, Father Satan has very clearly told us to refrain from doing any such things.
To be completely honest, my wife and I were having a bit of rough time and I just wanted to strengthen our relationship. I'm not so familiar with love spells so i just asked. My original question was too simplified I guess, hence the misunderstandings.

This time I am defending myself btw :D
OK, then!
 
jrvan said:

I am glad you are having some success. Yes, it can be tiring with everything. A lot of effort on my part has been spent increasing my productivity, and I think this should be a focus for everyone. More productivity=more advancement, of course.

1st priority should be cleaning, then you can add in more workings, if the sacral doesn't heal on its own. No sense trying to rebuild something when it may be dirty.

Yes, you can send me your chart if you really want to, and I will get back to you when I get another chance.
 
Stormblood said:
jrvan said:
Lydia's Visuddhi cleaning helped a lot just after doing it once. I had been cleaning my chakras with Surya as a mantra before, but this cleaning method with Visuddhi is something else. I'm going to do it again soon to see if I replicate the same results. My sexuality became wild again with the most pleasurable feeling I had ever experienced in my life. It's since dipped back again so I really need to keep up with this to see what happens. I've just been so busy with trying to juggle everything each day.
Visuddhi is very good. It means "pure" in Sanskrit, and it's the active power of the throat chakra. Given its meaning, it can also be used for purification too.

This is interesting, thanks. It reminds me of Ansuz.

I suspect it is better at cleaning than Surya, but not certain. Just from a logical standpoint, it seems like it is more specific to purifying, rather than all the other functions ruled by the Sun. So it may be more efficient to use Visuddhi than Surya.

Yes, I believe Surya could be intended to clean or transmute without as many downsides. I am just guessing on this because Lydia has mentioned Visuddhi deep cleaning made her feel tired after, and I have felt that same way. Perhaps Surya could "fill in the gap" of missing energy in some way or another.

When I use visuddhi, I imagine it purifying everything to a higher level, then all the removed dirt dumping out of me. It feels like I am almost puking up something, although I don't actually feel sick. That could be just unique to me, though.
 
SeekerOfTruth666 said:
Well, I actually am married to a Satanist. We both dedicated together. You can see my very first post on the forum if you'd like to verify.
I was never defending myself cos there's no reason to. I would never do any such thing to another Satanist. Whether it be a love spell or anything else. I am fully aware of the consequences of doing such things.
To be completely honest, my wife and I were having a bit of rough time and I just wanted to strengthen our relationship.

You should check your synastry with her, which would show points of conflict, as well as points of good relations. You can also do a composite chart, which is like a chart that represents your relationship as a whole. Then, you can get additional insight, but better yet you can see the transits influencing the relationship. All of this may explain the rough patch.

Synastry: https://horoscopes.astro-seek.com/synastry-chart-online-calculator

All this stuff in regards to love workings on other SS is to make sure you aren't fucking up their life, as you already understand. Yet, your wife has already agreed to marry you and spend her life with you. In this case, she already tied herself to you, so you aren't modifying her life negatively by further linking her to you.

Looking at the synastry chart, you can also see the specific energies in a relationship, such as Venus aspecting another's Sun, for example. This would be similar to Gebo being used to attract that person to you. Mars aspecting Venus would show a sexual connection, similar to Kenaz or Thurisaz, and so on. This goes further with all the other planets.

The point is that you can improve all areas of a relationship, such as communication, love, sex, intuitive connection, obsessions, stability, platonic excitement, dreaminess, etc. These all come from different planetary connections.
 
Blitzkreig [JG said:
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Stormblood said:
jrvan said:
Lydia's Visuddhi cleaning helped a lot just after doing it once. I had been cleaning my chakras with Surya as a mantra before, but this cleaning method with Visuddhi is something else. I'm going to do it again soon to see if I replicate the same results. My sexuality became wild again with the most pleasurable feeling I had ever experienced in my life. It's since dipped back again so I really need to keep up with this to see what happens. I've just been so busy with trying to juggle everything each day.
Visuddhi is very good. It means "pure" in Sanskrit, and it's the active power of the throat chakra. Given its meaning, it can also be used for purification too.

This is interesting, thanks. It reminds me of Ansuz.

I suspect it is better at cleaning than Surya, but not certain. Just from a logical standpoint, it seems like it is more specific to purifying, rather than all the other functions ruled by the Sun. So it may be more efficient to use Visuddhi than Surya.

Yes, I believe Surya could be intended to clean or transmute without as many downsides. I am just guessing on this because Lydia has mentioned Visuddhi deep cleaning made her feel tired after, and I have felt that same way. Perhaps Surya could "fill in the gap" of missing energy in some way or another.

When I use visuddhi, I imagine it purifying everything to a higher level, then all the removed dirt dumping out of me. It feels like I am almost puking up something, although I don't actually feel sick. That could be just unique to me, though.

I think Ansuz and the throat chakra are related in many ways.


If I remember correctly, the original working shared by Lady Maxine (it's in one of her writings now) prescribed 11x in each of the 7 main chakras and 31x in the aura, amounting to 108 total, which is good considering the recent discoveries about Saturn and the Witches' Sabbat.

I feel quite tired after it too. I usually then use a miniature sun to catch all the dross. Sometimes in the past I have experienced a dark grey liquid coming out of every chakra, major or minor. There's so many. That's the form the dross took on those occasions for me.

A few hours after it feels very good, though.
 
I found it very surprising that you said you almost felt like throwing up.
I have used Thaur and Ansuz (18x each) on two different occasions for a working to destroy negative energy in the soul and freeing me from it.
On both occasions, I had this overwhelming feeling that I had to vomit but nothing came out. Was basically dry heaving but imagining negative energy coming out.

I felt hollow and really light for a few days after.

HS.


Blitzkreig [JG said:
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Stormblood said:
jrvan said:
Lydia's Visuddhi cleaning helped a lot just after doing it once. I had been cleaning my chakras with Surya as a mantra before, but this cleaning method with Visuddhi is something else. I'm going to do it again soon to see if I replicate the same results. My sexuality became wild again with the most pleasurable feeling I had ever experienced in my life. It's since dipped back again so I really need to keep up with this to see what happens. I've just been so busy with trying to juggle everything each day.
Visuddhi is very good. It means "pure" in Sanskrit, and it's the active power of the throat chakra. Given its meaning, it can also be used for purification too.

This is interesting, thanks. It reminds me of Ansuz.

I suspect it is better at cleaning than Surya, but not certain. Just from a logical standpoint, it seems like it is more specific to purifying, rather than all the other functions ruled by the Sun. So it may be more efficient to use Visuddhi than Surya.

Yes, I believe Surya could be intended to clean or transmute without as many downsides. I am just guessing on this because Lydia has mentioned Visuddhi deep cleaning made her feel tired after, and I have felt that same way. Perhaps Surya could "fill in the gap" of missing energy in some way or another.

When I use visuddhi, I imagine it purifying everything to a higher level, then all the removed dirt dumping out of me. It feels like I am almost puking up something, although I don't actually feel sick. That could be just unique to me, though.
 
Blitzkreig [JG said:
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Stormblood said:
jrvan said:
Lydia's Visuddhi cleaning helped a lot just after doing it once. I had been cleaning my chakras with Surya as a mantra before, but this cleaning method with Visuddhi is something else. I'm going to do it again soon to see if I replicate the same results. My sexuality became wild again with the most pleasurable feeling I had ever experienced in my life. It's since dipped back again so I really need to keep up with this to see what happens. I've just been so busy with trying to juggle everything each day.
Visuddhi is very good. It means "pure" in Sanskrit, and it's the active power of the throat chakra. Given its meaning, it can also be used for purification too.

This is interesting, thanks. It reminds me of Ansuz.

I suspect it is better at cleaning than Surya, but not certain. Just from a logical standpoint, it seems like it is more specific to purifying, rather than all the other functions ruled by the Sun. So it may be more efficient to use Visuddhi than Surya.

Yes, I believe Surya could be intended to clean or transmute without as many downsides. I am just guessing on this because Lydia has mentioned Visuddhi deep cleaning made her feel tired after, and I have felt that same way. Perhaps Surya could "fill in the gap" of missing energy in some way or another.

When I use visuddhi, I imagine it purifying everything to a higher level, then all the removed dirt dumping out of me. It feels like I am almost puking up something, although I don't actually feel sick. That could be just unique to me, though.

That is something I've been having trouble with when using Visuddhi, and wondering if there's something I'm not doing right. Because when I start doing the part of the Deep Cleaning method (Lydia's) where you visualize the Sun ball, after only a few chakras I get really mentally exhausted and struggle for the rest of them.

Visualization is usually not an issue for me so I don't really understand.
 
Blitzkreig [JG said:
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You should check your synastry with her, which would show points of conflict, as well as points of good relations. You can also do a composite chart, which is like a chart that represents your relationship as a whole. Then, you can get additional insight, but better yet you can see the transits influencing the relationship. All of this may explain the rough patch.

Synastry: https://horoscopes.astro-seek.com/synastry-chart-online-calculator

All this stuff in regards to love workings on other SS is to make sure you aren't fucking up their life, as you already understand. Yet, your wife has already agreed to marry you and spend her life with you. In this case, she already tied herself to you, so you aren't modifying her life negatively by further linking her to you.

Looking at the synastry chart, you can also see the specific energies in a relationship, such as Venus aspecting another's Sun, for example. This would be similar to Gebo being used to attract that person to you. Mars aspecting Venus would show a sexual connection, similar to Kenaz or Thurisaz, and so on. This goes further with all the other planets.

The point is that you can improve all areas of a relationship, such as communication, love, sex, intuitive connection, obsessions, stability, platonic excitement, dreaminess, etc. These all come from different planetary connections.

This is great. I understand a lot more now. Thank you. This wasn't what I wanted at first, but this is exactly what I needed. I appreciate this.
 
tabby said:
That is something I've been having trouble with when using Visuddhi, and wondering if there's something I'm not doing right. Because when I start doing the part of the Deep Cleaning method (Lydia's) where you visualize the Sun ball, after only a few chakras I get really mentally exhausted and struggle for the rest of them.

Visualization is usually not an issue for me so I don't really understand.
Shorter time spent on chakras, take a moment off to do pranyama, split your cleaning session in two or three parts, raise more energy before cleaning.
 
Henu the Great said:
tabby said:
That is something I've been having trouble with when using Visuddhi, and wondering if there's something I'm not doing right. Because when I start doing the part of the Deep Cleaning method (Lydia's) where you visualize the Sun ball, after only a few chakras I get really mentally exhausted and struggle for the rest of them.

Visualization is usually not an issue for me so I don't really understand.
Shorter time spent on chakras, take a moment off to do pranyama, split your cleaning session in two or three parts, raise more energy before cleaning.

Yes, do this. There may even be one or two chakras in particular that need special focus.

Don't go so far that you become totally exhausted. Stop before you hit a hard limit, allowing yourself to recharge in various ways.
 
Blitzkreig [JG said:
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Henu the Great said:
tabby said:
That is something I've been having trouble with when using Visuddhi, and wondering if there's something I'm not doing right. Because when I start doing the part of the Deep Cleaning method (Lydia's) where you visualize the Sun ball, after only a few chakras I get really mentally exhausted and struggle for the rest of them.

Visualization is usually not an issue for me so I don't really understand.
Shorter time spent on chakras, take a moment off to do pranyama, split your cleaning session in two or three parts, raise more energy before cleaning.

Yes, do this. There may even be one or two chakras in particular that need special focus.

Don't go so far that you become totally exhausted. Stop before you hit a hard limit, allowing yourself to recharge in various ways.

I understand. Thank you both, I appreciate it. :)
 
Henu the Great said:
tabby said:
That is something I've been having trouble with when using Visuddhi, and wondering if there's something I'm not doing right. Because when I start doing the part of the Deep Cleaning method (Lydia's) where you visualize the Sun ball, after only a few chakras I get really mentally exhausted and struggle for the rest of them.

Visualization is usually not an issue for me so I don't really understand.
Shorter time spent on chakras, take a moment off to do pranyama, split your cleaning session in two or three parts, raise more energy before cleaning.

All outstanding advice.

I would add that it's also best to raise energy before any working or meditation by using a pranayama technique of one's choice. This is in every early/beginner meditation on the JoS, like entering a trance and other things. Maybe people then go on to read the next sections and forget that the basics apply at all times. Lady Maxine always advice to combine a mantra with a pranayama of your choice when raising energy before something. Aligning chakras is also very helpful, especially before witchcraft.
 
Stormblood said:
Henu the Great said:
tabby said:
That is something I've been having trouble with when using Visuddhi, and wondering if there's something I'm not doing right. Because when I start doing the part of the Deep Cleaning method (Lydia's) where you visualize the Sun ball, after only a few chakras I get really mentally exhausted and struggle for the rest of them.

Visualization is usually not an issue for me so I don't really understand.
Shorter time spent on chakras, take a moment off to do pranyama, split your cleaning session in two or three parts, raise more energy before cleaning.

All outstanding advice.

I would add that it's also best to raise energy before any working or meditation by using a pranayama technique of one's choice. This is in every early/beginner meditation on the JoS, like entering a trance and other things. Maybe people then go on to read the next sections and forget that the basics apply at all times. Lady Maxine always advice to combine a mantra with a pranayama of your choice when raising energy before something. Aligning chakras is also very helpful, especially before witchcraft.

If pranayama is used before a working to raise energies, is one required to be still for several minutes before starting? If I'm remembering correctly it says somewhere that after yogic breathing and yoga to be still for a period of 10-15 mins afterwards and meditate on the energies.

Normally I just vibrate SATANAS 1-3 times, or focus on my energies brightening until it starts feeling warm (sometimes I forget though). I've gotten the hang of the foundation breath exercise well I feel, and can do alternating nostril breath and the ocean's breath.
 
tabby said:
If pranayama is used before a working to raise energies, is one required to be still for several minutes before starting? If I'm remembering correctly it says somewhere that after yogic breathing and yoga to be still for a period of 10-15 mins afterwards and meditate on the energies.

Normally I just vibrate SATANAS 1-3 times, or focus on my energies brightening until it starts feeling warm (sometimes I forget though). I've gotten the hang of the foundation breath exercise well I feel, and can do alternating nostril breath and the ocean's breath.

It is best to proceed with the working when your energies are at their highest. This is usually just after any form of empowerment, such as Pranayama or Satanas, to raise your energies.

When one meditates upon the energies, it is to help them settle and steep into the soul. It has the purpose of allowing that energy to work on the soul and being after a session of Yoga, pranayama with intent to empower and open up the being as part of advancement or Chakra meditation to empower them, etc.

When empowering for a working, the goal is to use most of that energy raised to empower the working, therefore it is best to strike the iron when it is hot rather than let the energies settle in.

Personally I focus and meditate upon the raised energy for a few minutes only (1-3) while further brightening my aura to raise my energies as high as possible after empowerment, and to settle my mind so my focus is optimal for the working.

I go by intuition when is the right time to begin.

Hail Satan!
 
tabby said:
Stormblood said:
Henu the Great said:
Shorter time spent on chakras, take a moment off to do pranyama, split your cleaning session in two or three parts, raise more energy before cleaning.

All outstanding advice.

I would add that it's also best to raise energy before any working or meditation by using a pranayama technique of one's choice. This is in every early/beginner meditation on the JoS, like entering a trance and other things. Maybe people then go on to read the next sections and forget that the basics apply at all times. Lady Maxine always advice to combine a mantra with a pranayama of your choice when raising energy before something. Aligning chakras is also very helpful, especially before witchcraft.

If pranayama is used before a working to raise energies, is one required to be still for several minutes before starting? If I'm remembering correctly it says somewhere that after yogic breathing and yoga to be still for a period of 10-15 mins afterwards and meditate on the energies.

Normally I just vibrate SATANAS 1-3 times, or focus on my energies brightening until it starts feeling warm (sometimes I forget though). I've gotten the hang of the foundation breath exercise well I feel, and can do alternating nostril breath and the ocean's breath.

No need for me to reply, since VoE anticipated. There's nothing I would add or disagree with.
 
VoiceofEnki said:
tabby said:
If pranayama is used before a working to raise energies, is one required to be still for several minutes before starting? If I'm remembering correctly it says somewhere that after yogic breathing and yoga to be still for a period of 10-15 mins afterwards and meditate on the energies.

Normally I just vibrate SATANAS 1-3 times, or focus on my energies brightening until it starts feeling warm (sometimes I forget though). I've gotten the hang of the foundation breath exercise well I feel, and can do alternating nostril breath and the ocean's breath.

It is best to proceed with the working when your energies are at their highest. This is usually just after any form of empowerment, such as Pranayama or Satanas, to raise your energies.

When one meditates upon the energies, it is to help them settle and steep into the soul. It has the purpose of allowing that energy to work on the soul and being after a session of Yoga, pranayama with intent to empower and open up the being as part of advancement or Chakra meditation to empower them, etc.

When empowering for a working, the goal is to use most of that energy raised to empower the working, therefore it is best to strike the iron when it is hot rather than let the energies settle in.

Personally I focus and meditate upon the raised energy for a few minutes only (1-3) while further brightening my aura to raise my energies as high as possible after empowerment, and to settle my mind so my focus is optimal for the working.

I go by intuition when is the right time to begin.

Hail Satan!

This makes perfect sense to me. Not sure what it is about with the reference of striking the iron when it's hot, but saying that made something click and resonate near the extension of my 6th chakra.

Thank you.

Stormblood said:
No need for me to reply, since VoE anticipated. There's nothing I would add or disagree with.

Thank you as well then. I know I'm jumping a little here, but you mentioned before about how the Ing rune can be used to take back all the energies that were stolen from us. Does this apply to soul abilities as well? I once had incredibly strong prophetic-like dreams and insights about events in my future throughout my teenage years but I have struggled regaining the ability back ever since falling into the trap and brainwashing of the cult. Other things haven't quite been normal yet either regarding my psychic abilities. It feels like there's still things missing. I'd like to give context about this but I think revealing it could be identifying (if it's ok with you I can explain privately in email about it).
 
tabby said:
Stormblood said:
No need for me to reply, since VoE anticipated. There's nothing I would add or disagree with.

Thank you as well then. I know I'm jumping a little here, but you mentioned before about how the Ing rune can be used to take back all the energies that were stolen from us. Does this apply to soul abilities as well? I once had incredibly strong prophetic-like dreams and insights about events in my future throughout my teenage years but I have struggled regaining the ability back ever since falling into the trap and brainwashing of the cult. Other things haven't quite been normal yet either regarding my psychic abilities. It feels like there's still things missing. I'd like to give context about this but I think revealing it could be identifying (if it's ok with you I can explain privately in email about it).

Sure, you can email me. From what you told me know, I think Odhal would be a better fit for the job. You could also pair it with Ansuz. A 3-rune working could be Odhal, Sowilo, Ansuz. If you want to get more detailed, you can email me like you proposed, of course.
 
Stormblood said:
tabby said:
Stormblood said:
No need for me to reply, since VoE anticipated. There's nothing I would add or disagree with.

Thank you as well then. I know I'm jumping a little here, but you mentioned before about how the Ing rune can be used to take back all the energies that were stolen from us. Does this apply to soul abilities as well? I once had incredibly strong prophetic-like dreams and insights about events in my future throughout my teenage years but I have struggled regaining the ability back ever since falling into the trap and brainwashing of the cult. Other things haven't quite been normal yet either regarding my psychic abilities. It feels like there's still things missing. I'd like to give context about this but I think revealing it could be identifying (if it's ok with you I can explain privately in email about it).

Sure, you can email me. From what you told me know, I think Odhal would be a better fit for the job. You could also pair it with Ansuz. A 3-rune working could be Odhal, Sowilo, Ansuz. If you want to get more detailed, you can email me like you proposed, of course.

Alright. I didn't know you could use Odhal like that, looks like I need to expand my thinking of how to use the runes.
Thank you for your help, I've sent an email regarding context details.
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Satan

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